Samsung = the Best TVs

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#51 professorXzaver
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On what website did you find that chart ?

And what device gives off 1440p resolution, computer monitors only ?

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#52 NVIDIATI
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On what website did you find that chart ?

And what device gives off 1440p resolution, computer monitors only ?

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Honestly I've been using that so long I forgot the site I found it at. When I need it I just google and it comes up. Anyways some monitors use it, along with high end 4K (4096 x 2304) projectors. There are also some 4K TVs that get shown off every now and then, though nothing on the market for the average consumer.

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#53 rastan
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It's a chart based on perfect 20/20 vision and from what distance your eyes can see that resolution. It was a graphic mapping of a scientific paper/formula, but I can't find my old link.
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#54 Cheesehead9099
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I rather prefer Sharp. They make pretty awesome TVs.

Sony is good as well.

However, Samsung is also awesome. Samsung is just one of those companies that's good at 'everything' - they make good TVs, Cell Phones, Laptops, Monitors, etc.

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#55 KHAndAnime
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I prefer Panasonic to be honest. They are just better looking TVs. Though I'm still mad at Panasonic for the stupid black level problems. If your Panasonic has bad IR, it's possible you just have rising blacks, which in addition to worsening your black levels - they add a crazy amount of IR.
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#56 KHAndAnime
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That chart isn't that scientific. It's just mapped out by some guy who had some spare time. It's only there to give you a rough idea - for example - anybody with eyes can see the difference between 1080P and 480P 10ft away from a 42" Plasma.
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#57 psychobrew
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After leaning heavily towards a Panasonic plasma, I ended up getting a Samsung. Cheaper, no black issues (rising and floating blacks), better processing, and I could get a TV capable of doing real 24p for much less money. The floating black issue on the new Panasonics are a bigger concern to me than the rising black levels. Basically, the issue is Panasonic adjusts black levels in real time, except it's not real time -- there's a 5 second or so delay so the adjustment doesn't take place at the start of the new scene which is noticeable. I understand Panasonic's quest to create the pefect black levels, but they cheat.
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#58 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"]After leaning heavily towards a Panasonic plasma, I ended up getting a Samsung. Cheaper, no black issues (rising and floating blacks), better processing, and I could get a TV capable of doing real 24p for much less money. The floating black issue on the new Panasonics are a bigger concern to me than the rising black levels. Basically, the issue is Panasonic adjusts black levels in real time, except it's not real time -- there's a 5 second or so delay so the adjustment doesn't take place at the start of the new scene which is noticeable. I understand Panasonic's quest to create the pefect black levels, but they cheat.

True, the new generation has floating blacks, but it's truly only noticeable if you're watching content that has black bars. I have a pretty keen eye for floating blacks, and they truly aren't that bothersome. In fact, I'm a little more bothered by the noisy picture. Despite these drawbacks, I truly feel that Panasonics have the best PQ.
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#59 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"]After leaning heavily towards a Panasonic plasma, I ended up getting a Samsung. Cheaper, no black issues (rising and floating blacks), better processing, and I could get a TV capable of doing real 24p for much less money. The floating black issue on the new Panasonics are a bigger concern to me than the rising black levels. Basically, the issue is Panasonic adjusts black levels in real time, except it's not real time -- there's a 5 second or so delay so the adjustment doesn't take place at the start of the new scene which is noticeable. I understand Panasonic's quest to create the pefect black levels, but they cheat.KHAndAnime
True, the new generation has floating blacks, but it's truly only noticeable if you're watching content that has black bars. I have a pretty keen eye for floating blacks, and they truly aren't that bothersome. In fact, I'm a little more bothered by the noisy picture. Despite these drawbacks, I truly feel that Panasonics have the best PQ.

I was looking at the Panasonic G20 and the Samsung C7000 side by side. Both had excellent image quality (detail was noticeably better on these two TVs than other surrounding TVs). The color on the Panasonic was a little washed out and a little milky on some scenes, butother scenes had a great sense of realism. The Samsung needed calibration, but they do give you access to a wide variety of calibration settings.

If floating blacks aren't as bad as people on AVSForums are saying it is, then I don't think you can go wrong with either Panasonic or Samsung, but I ended up ordering the C7000 off Amazon since it was cheaper than the GT25 and it had a few features I really wanted.

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#60 godzillavskong
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As a Samsung user for several years, Plasma is the best way to go. Panasonic has some amazing plasma HDTVs. I'll never go back to Samsung.

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I keep hearing that about Panasonic plasmas , but we carry them where I work at , and I haven't been that impressed. I don't know if it is just a low end model, or what, but the picture is a bit grainy, and the blacks aren't as impressive as I thought they would be. I was torn between purchasing the 54in Panasonic plasma or a 55in Toshiba Regza 120hz, and the Regza beat it when I compared both hooked up to a Bluray player. I even tweaked with the settings, and toyed with each of them for about a week for making my decision. I have the model around here somewhere and I'll post it for you, just so I can see if it is a low end model. I'm not a tv technician, and don't claim to know the most about them. I just go by what I see and what my eyes prefer.
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#61 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="Elann2008"]

As a Samsung user for several years, Plasma is the best way to go. Panasonic has some amazing plasma HDTVs. I'll never go back to Samsung.

I keep hearing that about Panasonic plasmas , but we carry them where I work at , and I haven't been that impressed. I don't know if it is just a low end model, or what, but the picture is a bit grainy, and the blacks aren't as impressive as I thought they would be. I was torn between purchasing the 54in Panasonic plasma or a 55in Toshiba Regza 120hz, and the Regza beat it when I compared both hooked up to a Bluray player. I even tweaked with the settings, and toyed with each of them for about a week for making my decision. I have the model around here somewhere and I'll post it for you, just so I can see if it is a low end model. I'm not a tv technician, and don't claim to know the most about them. I just go by what I see and what my eyes prefer.

It was the Panasonic model TC-P54s2.
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#62 LowDownDirty
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Panasonic Vierra Plasma's are the best right now just check the reviews everywhere.

Plasma picture is just better than LED or LCD.

If you are worried about "burn in" or the hour limit consider this; you won't get burn it as ALL Plasma's have screen savers now and the hour limit on the better Plasma's is like over 10 years total and that is you are watching your TV over 12 hours a day. No one keeps TV's for 10 years and no one watches TV 12 hours a day. If you do you need to re-evaluate somethings. lol.

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#63 psychobrew
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Some Plasmas have a 100,000 hour life span (i.e. the TV can be used for 100,000 hours before half brightness). They are also they way to go if you want 3D.
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#64 Funconsole
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Exactly!! Love the new Samsung LEDs!! I plan on getting this baby next week!! :D :D :D
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#65 psychobrew
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One more plus for Samsung plasmas. While Panasonic has rising black levels, Samsung has falling black levels. The black levels in Samsung's plasma displays will steadily fall durring the first 1000 hours, and every firmware update they put out seems to lower their black levels as well. Nice.
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#66 GeForce2187
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Plasma > LCD with LED backlight. Nothing more to it, Samsung's TVs are far from the best.

You want the best? Go with Panasonic or Pioneer if you can still find any.

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Yeah the TV at my house is a very old Panasonic (standard def CRT) and it gets used all the time and it won't die.
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#67 Steel_Rain777
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I was actually planning on purchasing an LED tv today. But I kept reading about the fact that edge lit is in basically all models unless you wanna shell out 1000+ for local dimming sets. I'm leaning more towards a Plasma now. Saw one at Bestbuy 50" 3d Panasonic for about 300 more than the One I was going to get...This thing was beautiful, it's a shame they didnt have it in a 42"-46" model cause that size wouldnt fit in my room :(

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#68 Steel_Rain777
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Here's another thing, I heard this on avsforums, so what I say I don't claim are 100% true. But Many stores will put LED's at better settings than the Plasma's on purpose so people will buy into the more expensive "newer" technology. Like I said, not sure if this true,but I thought I should point it out. If you buy any LED, make sure it has Local Dimming, but be prepared to pay a lot, cause these suckers don't come cheap

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i bought a 32" citizen LCD HDTV for like $300 on sale with no tax, great deal, even though citizen isnt THAT great, but still been around for decades.

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Here's another thing, I heard this on avsforums, so what I say I don't claim are 100% true. But Many stores will put LED's at better settings than the Plasma's on purpose so people will buy into the more expensive "newer" technology. Like I said, not sure if this true,but I thought I should point it out. If you buy any LED, make sure it has Local Dimming, but be prepared to pay a lot, cause these suckers don't come cheap

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Stores won't always set up their display models to show the best quality picture each model is capable of. That's why you can't base your decision only by going to a store and looking at TVs. You do that and you're wasting your money.
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[QUOTE="Steel_Rain777"]

Here's another thing, I heard this on avsforums, so what I say I don't claim are 100% true. But Many stores will put LED's at better settings than the Plasma's on purpose so people will buy into the more expensive "newer" technology. Like I said, not sure if this true,but I thought I should point it out. If you buy any LED, make sure it has Local Dimming, but be prepared to pay a lot, cause these suckers don't come cheap

XIntoTheBlue

Stores won't always set up their display models to show the best quality picture each model is capable of. That's why you can't base your decision only by going to a store and looking at TVs. You do that and you're wasting your money.

Oh yeah, I definitely agree. I like to read as much as possible and do as much research as I can on any particular set. No room in my house is lit up with bright halogens for 12 hours :)

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Just a side note, I re-adjusted my picture settings on my 2 year old LCD. For the past 2 years I have been using the "Dynamic" factory setting to play video games. The factory setting looked fine and I didn't think that it needed to be changed.

But I adjusted these 2 things last week.

-COLOR

-PICTURE WARMTH

I got the picture to look noticeable better. I am now going through all of my older games and replaying them again with the better picture :)

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#73 Marka1700
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Just a side note, I re-adjusted my picture settings on my 2 year old LCD. For the past 2 years I have been using the "Dynamic" factory setting to play video games. The factory setting looked fine and I didn't think that it needed to be changed.

But I adjusted these 2 things last week.

-COLOR

-PICTURE WARMTH

I got the picture to look noticeable better. I am now going through all of my older games and replaying them again with the better picture :)

professorXzaver

Factory settings on TVs are generally not that great. "DYNAMIC" settings are usually the worst offeder with super high contrast and brightness settings.

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Do not like Samsung
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#78 JohnF111
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Plasma > LCD with LED backlight. Nothing more to it, Samsung's TVs are far from the best.

You want the best? Go with Panasonic or Pioneer if you can still find any.

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Yeah pretty much this, although Plasmas are power hungry and could easily be the most power hungry thing in a home... But its sooo worth it!!
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#79 rastan
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Actually newer plasmas use about the same power as LCD's. LCD's use the same power all the time. Plasmas use more power on the brightest scenes and less on darker scenes. It has been shown with average viewing material the difference between the two technologies in power consumption is minimal.
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#80 right4dead
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sony 3dtv's look the best. the blacks are deeper than any i have seen, the picture is clearer than real life, in 2d or 3d mode. but i agree that pioneer made the best tv's i have ever seen, just that you cant find them anymore.

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[QUOTE="XIntoTheBlue"][QUOTE="Steel_Rain777"]

Here's another thing, I heard this on avsforums, so what I say I don't claim are 100% true. But Many stores will put LED's at better settings than the Plasma's on purpose so people will buy into the more expensive "newer" technology. Like I said, not sure if this true,but I thought I should point it out. If you buy any LED, make sure it has Local Dimming, but be prepared to pay a lot, cause these suckers don't come cheap

Steel_Rain777

Stores won't always set up their display models to show the best quality picture each model is capable of. That's why you can't base your decision only by going to a store and looking at TVs. You do that and you're wasting your money.

Oh yeah, I definitely agree. I like to read as much as possible and do as much research as I can on any particular set. No room in my house is lit up with bright halogens for 12 hours :)

Unfortunately, I was totally mesmerized by a Samsung 7 series touch of color a few years back.. Walked into Best Buy with a pocket full of money and that thing debuted at $2700. It happened to be on sale that day for $2300. Being the impatient person I am sometimes, I went and bought it. The quality wasn't as stunning as it was when I first saw it in the store. Maybe because I was awestruck by it's beautiful frame more so than the actually viewing capabilities. Long story short, I ended up returning it. I was not happy with the quality at all. My family members came to visit me that week and they all said the same thing. Lesson learned - that was my very first time buying an HDTV.

Ever since I got my Panny, my friends never seem to live my apartment. :P I recommend it to all my friends and family.. but one friend insist Sony is best, which in my case is subjective. And my aunt has a 55" Samsung LCD. It's not the best-looking HDTV I've laid my eyes upon. I'm not trying to trash Samsung, it's just that they boast price and quality, while their price is pretty good... the quality is not so great. I would rather buy Sony than Samsung. But on a good day, Panasonic. :)

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#82 Bikouchu35
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Im pretty happy with my 40 incher now. :) I may sound crazy but the instore brand tv I had for a day looked pretty stunning for a low end lcd, it looked pretty darn sharp on local HD better than the sammy now. However it was thick and heavier than the sammy I have now so Im much happier now.

Its a 5 series model with only one hdmi port for 500, I guess I can live with that. Decent size for a bedroom and saves a lot more space than my old 27" trinitron.