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#51 _SKatEDiRt_
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@daious said:

You should have done more research on the 770 then but you should get higher FPS then that.

Also 400 dollars for a 770? They are chilling in the 300 range dipping to the 280s.

AC black flag is horribly optimized though.

where can you find one for $280? i have never seen one that cheap

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#52  Edited By remiks00
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I have the same card bro, and I max most games out on 1080p 60+fps with vsync on. It's a really, really awesome card; don't let anyone tell you different. I personally haven't tested AC4, but judging from the previous posts, and benchmarks, it's probably due to being badly optimized or a vsync problem.

Edit: I see that turning off vsync fixed the issue for you. Good.

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#53  Edited By remiks00
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@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

@demi0227_basic said:

@daious said:
@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

@demi0227_basic said:

770 is last gen tech...still great performance. Compare what you see to old or new consoles...your' epeen is still big man...don't doubt yourself.

770 is last gen? hows that? its one of the latest cards out!

I think he is referring to it being a rebranded card using a GK104 architecture. Its still a very good card.

This guy knows what he's talking about. A 770 is a rebranded 680. Again...last gen tech. 780's + Titan are newer gen.

Seriously? what a damn joke.

Yeah, he's almost right, but it's not just a "rebranding", the 770 has better performance than the 680; but it is based off the GK104. They really shouldn't have called it a "770". but whatever. It's a really good card.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk104-review,3519.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6994/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review

I have an overclocked one from Microcenter for $349. (http://www.microcenter.com/product/415281/GV-N770OC-2GD_NVIDIA_GeForce_GTX_770__2048MB_GDDR5_PCIe_30_x16_Video_Card)

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#54 DefconRave
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get d3doverrider and enable triple buffering. ACIV has no triple buff so anytime the fps drops below 60 it will drop all the way down to 30 and stay there. Prob the same for Blacklist and Crysis 3, no triple buffering option.

Some games can't be maxed out even with a titan so don't expect miracles.

Simply put alot of AAA games are shittyly optimised for pc.

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#55  Edited By Ben-Buja
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@FelipeInside said:

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As to felipe, I had it entirely maxed on Assassin's Creed and found myself getting at times 9 FPS, minor the fact that I'm apparently a baller for having a 770, that's still ridiculous. I should in no way, at any point in time get 9 FPS, that's absurd! Now, with that being said. I turned AA down, took it form TXAA x4 (which was more optimized than MSAAX4). Then, even took it to SMAA. Still relatively no different. Turned Physx down from high to normal, no different. Reduced the envrionmental detail, still, no difference. What were your settings for Assassin's Creed, if you don't mind my asking? Crysis 3 ran much better than this game imo.

Something wrong there then.

As for my settings: When I play games I just go into options, put my resolution on, turn down AA and AF to 2x or 4x, and then hit play (maybe shadows down if I see the game struggling).

EDIT: I see the problem was Vsync. Glad you fixed it. I should have mentioned that, I never use Vsync unless the tearing is so bad it bothers me.

Never turn down AF when you have a fairly decent GPU, there's almost no performance loss with AFx16.

AA on the other hand, especially MSAA can kill your fps in games that use deferred rendering.

The first things the TC should lower in ACIV are god rays to medium, physx, shadows and AO.

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#56 Daious
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@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

@demi0227_basic said:

@daious said:
@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

@demi0227_basic said:

770 is last gen tech...still great performance. Compare what you see to old or new consoles...your' epeen is still big man...don't doubt yourself.

770 is last gen? hows that? its one of the latest cards out!

I think he is referring to it being a rebranded card using a GK104 architecture. Its still a very good card.

This guy knows what he's talking about. A 770 is a rebranded 680. Again...last gen tech. 780's + Titan are newer gen.

Seriously? what a damn joke.

Yeah, this line up of cards from AMD and Nvidia have a lot of rebrands. The high end cards are based on the newer arch.

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#57 Daious
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@_SKatEDiRt_ said:

@daious said:

You should have done more research on the 770 then but you should get higher FPS then that.

Also 400 dollars for a 770? They are chilling in the 300 range dipping to the 280s.

AC black flag is horribly optimized though.

where can you find one for $280? i have never seen one that cheap

http://slickdeals.net/f/6550190-2gb-pny-nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-oc-gddr5-graphics-video-card-266-ar-ac-masterpass-free-shipping-w-shoprunner-newegg

There have been others around that price range but I randomly googled one

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#58  Edited By Elann2008
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I max out Splinter Cell: Blacklist and I get reasonable framerate in Crysis 3 (40fps+, nearly max settings) on my GTX 670 Sig 2. We have "similar" specs. I have an i5-2500k at 4.0GHz as well. As for AC4, I haven't expected great (notice I said great, not good) optimization in their AC games for years. I don't think they've fully figured out the engine yet when they transitioned from one modified engine to the other. That's how it goes with AC games.

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#59  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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lol, a 770...you shouldve gotten a real card like the radeon r290.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

lol, a 770...you shouldve gotten a real card like the radeon r290.

Such a sour AMD fanboy. Lets spend upwards of $170+ more for a mere 15-20% better results nice reasoning there NOT!

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#61  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@04dcarraher said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

lol, a 770...you shouldve gotten a real card like the radeon r290.

Such a sour AMD fanboy. Lets spend upwards of $170+ more for a mere 15-20% better results nice reasoning there NOT!

last time i checked, the msrp of both cards is around $400...pretty sad, the nvidia card is a refresh and is asking the same price as a card with new architecture. Nvidia has stupid people buying their cards so they get away with it.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@04dcarraher said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

lol, a 770...you shouldve gotten a real card like the radeon r290.

Such a sour AMD fanboy. Lets spend upwards of $170+ more for a mere 15-20% better results nice reasoning there NOT!

last time i checked, the msrp of both cards is around $400...pretty sad, the nvidia card is a refresh and is asking the same price as a card with new architecture. Nvidia has stupid people buying their cards so they get away with it.

The 770 is essentially a 680 but a lot cheaper. How the hell is that a ripoff?

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Want to know the answer and the only answer there is? Ubifuckingsoft. Worst devs around when it comes to pc ports. Try Ass Creed 3 its even shittier optimized

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

lol, a 770...you shouldve gotten a real card like the radeon r290.

Every chance you get you bash Nvidia.

Enjoying your Nvidia GTX 460?

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#66  Edited By insane_metalist
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@demi0227_basic said:

770 is last gen tech...still great performance. Compare what you see to old or new consoles...your' epeen is still big man...don't doubt yourself.

Yet my 760 rapes "next gen" consoles, funny af.

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#67  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@RevanBITW said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@04dcarraher said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

lol, a 770...you shouldve gotten a real card like the radeon r290.

Such a sour AMD fanboy. Lets spend upwards of $170+ more for a mere 15-20% better results nice reasoning there NOT!

last time i checked, the msrp of both cards is around $400...pretty sad, the nvidia card is a refresh and is asking the same price as a card with new architecture. Nvidia has stupid people buying their cards so they get away with it.

The 770 is essentially a 680 but a lot cheaper. How the hell is that a ripoff?

What matters is the current prices not the original msrp because both companies adjust base prices as time goes on. The 770 is on average $330 vs 290's average $500 and 290x's 600+ average price and the 290 only on average 18% faster then 770 if anything the 290 is the rip off. You enjoying that GTX 460 after selling that 7970..... blaze

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

last time i checked, the msrp of both cards is around $400...pretty sad, the nvidia card is a refresh and is asking the same price as a card with new architecture

I haven't seen a GTX 770 priced at $400 for the last 3-4 months....... (there like $320-330 which is a good price).

You can't compare old prices (back when AMD had stock issues on 7970) and use it a means to justify current day prices (especially since the R9 series is $500+).

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#69  Edited By 560ti
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

lol, a 770...you shouldve gotten a real card like the radeon r290.

The R9 290 was one of the most poorly managed card I have ever seen (wtf was amd thinking ?).

They release an amazing value but completely ruin it by overstocking on the wrong freaking card ("hey lets take the $150-170 7870ghz and make them are main manufacturing focus and then resell them for $200 !") and not only that but they forced the stock cooler down are throats for no reason...... (to this date most third party cooler are STILL not out).

Stock issues (even before the mining boom) and forcing stock coolers down are throats for NO reason pretty much took away most magic/excitement of the card...... (AMD dropped the ball big time).

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#70  Edited By insane_metalist
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@560ti said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

last time i checked, the msrp of both cards is around $400...pretty sad, the nvidia card is a refresh and is asking the same price as a card with new architecture

I haven't seen a GTX 770 priced at $400 for the last 3-4 months....... (there like $320-330 which is a good price).

You can't compare old prices (back when AMD had stock issues on 7970) and use it a means to justify current day prices (especially since the R9 series is $500+).

If ATI prices are so great then how come 270X prices are at $220-$230 cheapest even on newegg right now.

770s go for $330 that is correct! $400? lol

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@560ti said:

@blaznwiipspman1 said:

lol, a 770...you shouldve gotten a real card like the radeon r290.

The R9 290 was one of the most poorly managed card I have ever seen (wtf was amd thinking ?).

They release an amazing value but completely ruin it by overstocking on the wrong freaking card ("hey lets take the $150-170 7870ghz and make them are main manufacturing focus and then resell them for $200 !") and not only that but they forced the stock cooler down are throats for no reason...... (to this date most third party cooler are STILL not out).

Stock issues (even before the mining boom) and forcing stock coolers down are throats for NO reason pretty much took away most magic/excitement of the card...... (AMD dropped the ball big time).

Hey AMD just wanted to launch a room heater since it winter. Give them some slack :P

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#72  Edited By Ribstaylor1
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Wow funny how no one in here even bothers to mention the nvidia control panel and the settings in it. TC you need to right click your desktop click nvidia control panel, go to 3d settings and change these following settings to what is shown then come back and tell me if it's made a difference.

Ambient occlusion-off

Anisotropic filtering-application controlled

Antiaaliasing FXAA- off

Antialiasing gamma correction- on

Antialiasing mode - Application controlled

Antialiasing settings- Application controlled

Antialiasing transparency - off

CUDA GPUs- All

Maximum pre rendered frames- 1

Multi-display/mixed-gpu acceleration - single display performance mode (unless you have more then one screen)

Power management mode - Prefer maximum performance

Texture filtering anisotropic sample option- off

Texture filtering negative LOD bias - Allow

Texture quality- High performance

Texture filtering trilinear optimization- On

Threaded optimization- Auto

Tripple buffering- off

Vertical sync- Use 3d application setting

Change those settings then come back and tell me if it has or hasn't made a difference. If it hasn't made any difference at all to your frames then you my friend have something very wrong with your card or settup.

I too have a gtx 770 the 4gb version from gigabyte and I am able to run games like bf4 and others at max settings AT 1440P (no anti aliasing and I use the nvidia control panels ambient occlusion as it gives me more performance over the in game versions), and I'm pulling anywhere from 40-60 or more frames depending on the game. So your issue of getting 9fps is most likely to due with how you have your card setup.

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#73  Edited By zekere
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I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

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idiots. idiots everywhere.....

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@zekere said:

I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680".... the 770 is faster, more memory (if you have the 4gb version), less power, larger bandwidth..... it is a faster card and it costs LESS than the 680 did. it is not BASICALLY anything regarding the 680. yes they are based on the same architecture. no they are not BASICALLY the same card...

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#76  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@cyloninside said:

@zekere said:

I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680".... the 770 is faster, more memory (if you have the 4gb version), less power, larger bandwidth..... it is a faster card and it costs LESS than the 680 did. it is not BASICALLY anything regarding the 680. yes they are based on the same architecture. no they are not BASICALLY the same card...

The 770 is just a tweaked and overclocked 680 that's why people are saying its pretty much a 680. the 770 uses more power, its faster because it is clocked higher and its bandwidth increase is from higher memory clock rates . Both are GK104 based, both are 256bit, both have the same SPU's and TMU's. also the 680 have 4gb models. The only reason why 770 is cheaper is because it is a 680 and nvidia cut prices to compete with AMD.

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#77  Edited By 560ti
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@cyloninside said:

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680"....

Its a G104 with the same core configuration and the only difference is it comes with a nicer VRM that allows higher clockrates (its like comparing the 8800GTS 512mb with the 9800GTX).

The only reason the bandwidth is higher is because the clocks are slightly higher than the 680 and the 680 also came in a 4GB models as well.... (your really reaching for a difference).

In terms of technical specs and performance, it is basically a 680 ( I fail too see a significant reason as to why it should no be labeled/compared in the same category as the GTX 680). Its a 680 with an upgraded VRM that allows slightly faster clock rates......

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#78  Edited By deactivated-5a9b3f32ef4e9
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@04dcarraher said:

@cyloninside said:

@zekere said:

I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680".... the 770 is faster, more memory (if you have the 4gb version), less power, larger bandwidth..... it is a faster card and it costs LESS than the 680 did. it is not BASICALLY anything regarding the 680. yes they are based on the same architecture. no they are not BASICALLY the same card...

The 770 is just a tweaked and overclocked 680 that's why people are saying its pretty much a 680. the 770 uses more power, its faster because it is clocked higher and its bandwidth increase is from higher memory clock rates . Both are GK104 based, both are 256bit, both have the same SPU's and TMU's. also the 680 have 4gb models. The only reason why 770 is cheaper is because it is a 680 and nvidia cut prices to compete with AMD.

Yep, it's just a rehash. Some of the factory OC'd 680s were basically identical in performance to the 770. It's still a decent buy though, mainly due to the crazy price rises with AMD cards.

Not sure I could recommend a 2GB version now though.

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#79 04dcarraher
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@Postmortem123 said:

@04dcarraher said:

@cyloninside said:

@zekere said:

I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680".... the 770 is faster, more memory (if you have the 4gb version), less power, larger bandwidth..... it is a faster card and it costs LESS than the 680 did. it is not BASICALLY anything regarding the 680. yes they are based on the same architecture. no they are not BASICALLY the same card...

The 770 is just a tweaked and overclocked 680 that's why people are saying its pretty much a 680. the 770 uses more power, its faster because it is clocked higher and its bandwidth increase is from higher memory clock rates . Both are GK104 based, both are 256bit, both have the same SPU's and TMU's. also the 680 have 4gb models. The only reason why 770 is cheaper is because it is a 680 and nvidia cut prices to compete with AMD.

Yep, it's just a rehash. Some of the factory OC'd 680s were basically identical in performance to the 770. It's still a decent buy though, mainly due to the crazy price rises with AMD cards.

Not sure I could recommend a 2GB version now though.

If the target resolution is only going to be 1080 you can recommend 2gb version.

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@04dcarraher said:

If the target resolution is only going to be 1080 you can recommend 2gb version.

Possibly, though I hit 1900MB VRAM usage quite a few times on my 680. How much was just cached data I don't know.

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@04dcarraher said:

@Postmortem123 said:

@04dcarraher said:

@cyloninside said:

@zekere said:

I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680".... the 770 is faster, more memory (if you have the 4gb version), less power, larger bandwidth..... it is a faster card and it costs LESS than the 680 did. it is not BASICALLY anything regarding the 680. yes they are based on the same architecture. no they are not BASICALLY the same card...

The 770 is just a tweaked and overclocked 680 that's why people are saying its pretty much a 680. the 770 uses more power, its faster because it is clocked higher and its bandwidth increase is from higher memory clock rates . Both are GK104 based, both are 256bit, both have the same SPU's and TMU's. also the 680 have 4gb models. The only reason why 770 is cheaper is because it is a 680 and nvidia cut prices to compete with AMD.

Yep, it's just a rehash. Some of the factory OC'd 680s were basically identical in performance to the 770. It's still a decent buy though, mainly due to the crazy price rises with AMD cards.

Not sure I could recommend a 2GB version now though.

If the target resolution is only going to be 1080 you can recommend 2gb version.

there are several games that use far more than 2gb... even at 1080. BF4 is one of them....

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  1. Crysis 3 is a beast on Very High you need two GTX 770's to max that game out at a steady framerate.
  2. Ubisoft is a joke... Their games don't even support 16:10 and 21:9 aspect ratio's.
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@_SKatEDiRt_: ati/nivida does this all the time

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#84  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@cyloninside said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Postmortem123 said:

@04dcarraher said:

@cyloninside said:

@zekere said:

I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680".... the 770 is faster, more memory (if you have the 4gb version), less power, larger bandwidth..... it is a faster card and it costs LESS than the 680 did. it is not BASICALLY anything regarding the 680. yes they are based on the same architecture. no they are not BASICALLY the same card...

The 770 is just a tweaked and overclocked 680 that's why people are saying its pretty much a 680. the 770 uses more power, its faster because it is clocked higher and its bandwidth increase is from higher memory clock rates . Both are GK104 based, both are 256bit, both have the same SPU's and TMU's. also the 680 have 4gb models. The only reason why 770 is cheaper is because it is a 680 and nvidia cut prices to compete with AMD.

Yep, it's just a rehash. Some of the factory OC'd 680s were basically identical in performance to the 770. It's still a decent buy though, mainly due to the crazy price rises with AMD cards.

Not sure I could recommend a 2GB version now though.

If the target resolution is only going to be 1080 you can recommend 2gb version.

there are several games that use far more than 2gb... even at 1080. BF4 is one of them....

Pointless. To even make use of more then 2gb you have to have the processing power behind it. The 770 does not have what it takes to even make use of 4gb correctly. For example at 1600p 2gb vs 4gb 770 no fps difference with Metro LL, Dirt Showdown, Sleeping dogs, LostPlanet 2, FarCry 3, BF3, TR, Crysis 3.... Even at 5760x1080 4gb vs 2gb only seen at best 2 fps average difference, while most test was ~1 fps. Also even with BF4 2gb vs 4gb GTX 760 virtually seen no difference.

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@daious said:

You should have done more research on the 770 then but you should get higher FPS then that.

Also 400 dollars for a 770? They are chilling in the 300 range dipping to the 280s.

AC black flag is horribly optimized though.

I don't think so , it's a greatly optimized game IMO , got around 50-60 frames with AA off n AO SSAO . (GTX560TI)

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Whatever, a 680 runs today's games at full max when you stick to 1080p.

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#87  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@mjorh said:

@daious said:

You should have done more research on the 770 then but you should get higher FPS then that.

Also 400 dollars for a 770? They are chilling in the 300 range dipping to the 280s.

AC black flag is horribly optimized though.

I don't think so , it's a greatly optimized game IMO , got around 50-60 frames with AA off n AO SSAO . (GTX560TI)

Its not very well optimized .... The game only uses two threads causing a cpu bottleneck for the gpu the higher the settings the worse the performance.

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#88 cyloninside
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@04dcarraher said:

@cyloninside said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Postmortem123 said:

@04dcarraher said:

@cyloninside said:

@zekere said:

I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680".... the 770 is faster, more memory (if you have the 4gb version), less power, larger bandwidth..... it is a faster card and it costs LESS than the 680 did. it is not BASICALLY anything regarding the 680. yes they are based on the same architecture. no they are not BASICALLY the same card...

The 770 is just a tweaked and overclocked 680 that's why people are saying its pretty much a 680. the 770 uses more power, its faster because it is clocked higher and its bandwidth increase is from higher memory clock rates . Both are GK104 based, both are 256bit, both have the same SPU's and TMU's. also the 680 have 4gb models. The only reason why 770 is cheaper is because it is a 680 and nvidia cut prices to compete with AMD.

Yep, it's just a rehash. Some of the factory OC'd 680s were basically identical in performance to the 770. It's still a decent buy though, mainly due to the crazy price rises with AMD cards.

Not sure I could recommend a 2GB version now though.

If the target resolution is only going to be 1080 you can recommend 2gb version.

there are several games that use far more than 2gb... even at 1080. BF4 is one of them....

Pointless. To even make use of more then 2gb you have to have the processing power behind it. The 770 does not have what it takes to even make use of 4gb correctly. For example at 1600p 2gb vs 4gb 770 no fps difference with Metro LL, Dirt Showdown, Sleeping dogs, LostPlanet 2, FarCry 3, BF3, TR, Crysis 3.... Even at 5760x1080 4gb vs 2gb only seen at best 2 fps average difference, while most test was ~1 fps. Also even with BF4 2gb vs 4gb GTX 760 virtually seen no difference.

none of those games you listed use more than 2gb.... well, maybe metro. BF4 and Skyrim with texture packs are the two main games that use more than 2gb.... and yes there is a difference.... saying the 770 isnt powerful enough to use more than 2gb is just hilarious.... it doesnt take a Titan to push more than 2gb of vram....

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#89  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@cyloninside said:

@04dcarraher said:

@cyloninside said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Postmortem123 said:

@04dcarraher said:

@cyloninside said:

@zekere said:

I have a 680 II OC, which is basically the same as a 770. I don't have Assassin's Creed 4 on PC, but it should run it fine. It runs farcry3 very good. Maybe there's this one graphic option that destroys the performance,

why does everyone keep saying this? the 770 is not "basically a 680".... the 770 is faster, more memory (if you have the 4gb version), less power, larger bandwidth..... it is a faster card and it costs LESS than the 680 did. it is not BASICALLY anything regarding the 680. yes they are based on the same architecture. no they are not BASICALLY the same card...

The 770 is just a tweaked and overclocked 680 that's why people are saying its pretty much a 680. the 770 uses more power, its faster because it is clocked higher and its bandwidth increase is from higher memory clock rates . Both are GK104 based, both are 256bit, both have the same SPU's and TMU's. also the 680 have 4gb models. The only reason why 770 is cheaper is because it is a 680 and nvidia cut prices to compete with AMD.

Yep, it's just a rehash. Some of the factory OC'd 680s were basically identical in performance to the 770. It's still a decent buy though, mainly due to the crazy price rises with AMD cards.

Not sure I could recommend a 2GB version now though.

If the target resolution is only going to be 1080 you can recommend 2gb version.

there are several games that use far more than 2gb... even at 1080. BF4 is one of them....

Pointless. To even make use of more then 2gb you have to have the processing power behind it. The 770 does not have what it takes to even make use of 4gb correctly. For example at 1600p 2gb vs 4gb 770 no fps difference with Metro LL, Dirt Showdown, Sleeping dogs, LostPlanet 2, FarCry 3, BF3, TR, Crysis 3.... Even at 5760x1080 4gb vs 2gb only seen at best 2 fps average difference, while most test was ~1 fps. Also even with BF4 2gb vs 4gb GTX 760 virtually seen no difference.

none of those games you listed use more than 2gb.... well, maybe metro. BF4 and Skyrim with texture packs are the two main games that use more than 2gb.... and yes there is a difference.... saying the 770 isnt powerful enough to use more than 2gb is just hilarious.... it doesnt take a Titan to push more than 2gb of vram....

So wrong, the 770 does not have the memory bus nor processing power to make full use of the 4gb. Hence the real results above.

Here are a few results of a 2gb 770 vs 4gb 770 at 5860x1080 (at 1600p no difference)

Crysis 3 very high with 4xaa

2gb: 19.2

4gb: 19.3

Metro LL very high, no SSAO high physx

2gb: 20.5

4gb: 21.3

Dirt Showdown Ultra 8xAA

2gb: 31.9

4gb: 33.4

Here is BF4 at 3840x2160 Ultra settings with a GTX 760@1150mhz(1080p and 1600p seen same)

2gb: 16.4

4gb:16.5

"So it is disappointing that doubling the frame buffer from 2GB to 4GB doesn’t translate into a better gaming experience."

The only reason to get a 4gb 770 is if you plan on SLI'ing and you use really high resolutions.

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#91  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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I can't speak for Black Flag, but my 770 allows me to more or less max most games with a "fire and forget" mindset..

That includes Ubi games like AC: Brotherhood and Anno 2070.

I do tweak all games because the results are better but I have'nt experienced anything that made the rig struggle.

Oh yeah... A couple of core components:

MSI GTX 770 Gaming, 4GB.

16 GB 1600 MHz RAM/8-8-8-24

I7-4771 - 3.5 GHz.

Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB. Depending on the game, I have a 2TB mechanical drive as well of course ;)

MSI G45 Gaming mobo.

Those would be the components which primarily affect game performance for me.

Edit:

In the case of my GPU, the 4GB version is almost a nobrainer. It's not much more expensive and comes with a backplate.

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@Postmortem123 said:

@04dcarraher said:

If the target resolution is only going to be 1080 you can recommend 2gb version.

Possibly, though I hit 1900MB VRAM usage quite a few times on my 680. How much was just cached data I don't know.

Which games? I haven't seen above 1800 with Skyrim at 1200P and that is with walking all over the place instead of fast travelling between cities.

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@horgen123 said:

@Postmortem123 said:

@04dcarraher said:

If the target resolution is only going to be 1080 you can recommend 2gb version.

Possibly, though I hit 1900MB VRAM usage quite a few times on my 680. How much was just cached data I don't know.

Which games? I haven't seen above 1800 with Skyrim at 1200P and that is with walking all over the place instead of fast travelling between cities.

BF4 I believe. Though it was in the beta, I never played the full game with my 680.

And if you mod Skyrim you can hit 3GB VRAM.

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@jun_aka_pekto said:

PC game developers just can't win. PC gamers complain games don't stress their cards. If a game does stress a card, then they complain they can't run the game well enough.

The objective here is to utilize the card fully and get above playable fps for years to come. This is often never accomplished. Slacking developers make this not possible.

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#95  Edited By maynardburger
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You can definitely stretch your vRAM to the max with some of BF4's max settings on a 2GB 670/680/770.

And its quite easy to do with Skyrim if you're using a combination of high res mods.

Its also quite easy to make a few necessary compromises and still run these games fantastically well on a 2GB card. You don't need every tiny visual goodie to have a great looking game.