Should DX11 have a huge performance hit? (Metro 2033)

I am playing Metro 2033, with DX11 even the menu at the beginning runs at 28fps, so I use DX9 after seeing that. I have a 5850 which is DX11 and shouldn't DX11 run better than DX9?

Is it just bad programming?

ADOF and tessellation hardly make a difference in Metro, turn the two off or just use DX9.

ADOF and tessellation hardly make a difference in Metro, turn the two off or just use DX9.

Freak2121GTAF

It makes a difference...advanced depth of field makes a huge difference...but you will have a big performance hit...

To op...i have the rig from the signature...and i run Metro2033 in dx11 max settings @1920x1080 no aa +Physx turned on,no ADOF...and i get between 40 -60 fps(with vsync on)
Your card is a mid range card,almost 3 years old ...so i dont know what you expect...
On the side note ...Nvidia updated their drivers since Metro2033 came out a bunch of times...and every time the performance was increasing in Metro2033...each and every single freaking time...amd also put drivers out...but with amd you never gain performance in games...so yeah...

Yea its got quite the performance hit, but it does look better, so if you can run it smoothly than its definately worth it.

[QUOTE="Freak2121GTAF"]

ADOF and tessellation hardly make a difference in Metro, turn the two off or just use DX9.

rhazzy

It makes a difference...advanced depth of field makes a huge difference...but you will have a big performance hit...

To op...i have the rig from the signature...and i run Metro2033 in dx11 max settings @1920x1080 no aa +Physx turned on,no ADOF...and i get between 40 -60 fps(with vsync on)
Your card is a mid range card,almost 3 years old ...so i dont know what you expect...
On the side note ...Nvidia updated their drivers since Metro2033 came out a bunch of times...and every time the performance was increasing in Metro2033...each and every single freaking time...amd also put drivers out...but with amd you never gain performance in games...so yeah...

Menu is 60fps maxed on DX9, maxed with DX11 it's 28fps. I thought DX11 should be better for DX11 cards.

DX11 for Metro is poorly coded. You're much better off using DX9 or DX10.

Stick with DX10 with PhysX, runs better, has little to no visual difference between DX11 and you still get SSAO, object-based motion blur, hi-res textures, etc. DX11 is way too poorly programmed to actually be playable.

the only thing that really killed performance for me was depth of field, I turned that off and it ran fine everyhting else pretty much maxed. Funny thing is I dont really even care for the effect.

turn ADOF off and keep tesselation on. It is really a great game.

amd also put drivers out...but with amd you never gain performance in games...so yeah...rhazzy

Dx11 is just very poorly implemented in Metro 2033. Also I don't think it's worth it. I never play with Dx11 on anymore. Game looks almost identical in Dx10 and runs far better. The DOF looks crappy to me.

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]amd also put drivers out...but with amd you never gain performance in games...so yeah...ferret-gamer

From the release driver notes...

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="rhazzy"]amd also put drivers out...but with amd you never gain performance in games...so yeah...rhazzy

From the release driver notes...

Anyone know if that cfg editor still works? As far as I recall, the configuration file was rather illegible.....

I may be wrong, redownloading at 55% on Steam, It's a pretty nice game regardless :)

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="rhazzy"]amd also put drivers out...but with amd you never gain performance in games...so yeah...rhazzy

From the release driver notes...

[QUOTE="rhazzy"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Where did you get that idea?Toxic-Seahorse

From the release driver notes...

So what if i have a Nvidia card?...that means i should "block" myself and not be aware of what the competition is all about?I search and read everything related to what iam interested in...than i make a decision and buy the product or make future plans...i dont really care the brand i care about quality...
If tomorrow AMD would release some kind of magic drivers that would increase the performance in their gpus with 50% or smth like that i would get an AMD gpu...simple as that. It is fair to urself to know what both companys are offering

Keep the depth of field, MSAA, and physX off and it will run great.

Keep the depth of field, MSAA, and physX off and it will run great.

Wasdie

PhysX isn't that demanding in Metro.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Keep the depth of field, MSAA, and physX off and it will run great.

KillerJuan77

PhysX isn't that demanding in Metro.

So, considering my incredibly long night, I ditched school this morning; in favour of checking up on Metro 2033:?

It certainly runs better than it used to.

My rig:

CPU: I7 - 920, running at 3.6 GHz

GPU: GTX460 * 2 running in SLI

RAM: 6 GB Triple Channel DDR3 RAM, downclocked to 1066 MHz.

HDD: 60 GB Corsair Force 3 Series SSD, 1 TB Seagate mechanical drive.

Perpherals: Razer Blackwidow KB/Deathadder Mouse, 360 Controller.

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All settings maxed at 1920*1080 except Antialiasing, which was kept at AAA.

This part stutters. It's not annoying with the 360 controller, due to it's natural unresponsiveness; but It'd annoy me with a mouse.

Stutter gone, feels like at least 40 fps.

Still fine.

WTF, if I ever saw an fps drop back when I first played it, it was here. Now it was quite fine.

AA in this game sucks. MSAA * 4 is brutal on performance and AAA is'nt very good. Gonna have to see how forced FXAA does.

Character models are still awfull ;)

All in all, I'm impressed with nvidia's drivers here. Back when I bought and played Metro, I had to go with High, no ADoF and AAA.

Judging from the first 10 minutes, (I do have prior experience with performance throughout the game), I can now max everything, except AA and achieve similar/better performance, than I used to.

Think I'll play through it on Ranger, while I'm at it. It was nice actually being able to aim properly at the ambush, after meeting Hunter:P

Bottom Line: Looks like you can run DX11 feautures just fine, if you have performance on par with SLI 460s. Gonna try it out with FXAA now :)

Edit: This is with stock GPU clocks, by the way. Looks like I forgot to install MSI Afterburner, when I recently formatted:P

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Keep the depth of field, MSAA, and physX off and it will run great.

MlauTheDaft

PhysX isn't that demanding in Metro.

It certainly runs better than it used to.

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[QUOTE="KillerJuan77"]

PhysX isn't that demanding in Metro.

mitu123

It certainly runs better than it used to.

Indeed, Metro sure is'nt consistent though. Some things look amazing while others are awfull.