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#1 scarface_uk_
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i ave a pc now and im thinking of getting a mac, i use my pc for; the Internet, music (itunes), and i occasionally play cs:source (but not much)

so what are the pros and cons of owning a mac to a pc for me ??? 

and i don't want ppl to start arguing over whats better. 

thanks

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All the new macs now can run Boot Camp for you to dual boot Windows. My next laptop will be a mac. I like how I won't have to worry much about security and iLife seems like a great package. The only things I can't do on OS X are special programs that I use for my classes and games, but they'll run fine on Windows over Boot Camp.
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All the new macs now can run Boot Camp for you to dual boot Windows. My next laptop will be a mac. I like how I won't have to worry much about security and iLife seems like a great package. The only things I can't do on OS X are special programs that I use for my classes and games, but they'll run fine on Windows over Boot Camp.dmanrevived
Yep. MAcs are more expensive for performance vs. price, but hey, everything good comes at a price. get a mac book pro ;) No mac books, I believe they have intergrated graphics.
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A lot of the pro's have to do with OS X in particular. Apple provides Boot Camp if you want to set up and dual-boot to Windows on intel Macs. There is also third-party VM software such as Parallels desktop to let you run Windows and applications within OS X. There is a commercial app called CrossFire that is supposed to allow you to install windows stuff directly on the Mac. But the latest VM software I've seen that could be really good is VMWare Fusion, which so far is the first I've seen that would have 3D acceleration for the guest OS, meaning you could have the benefit of running windows within a virtual machine (and therefore, any 'damage' from BSOD's/etc. only affecting the VM and not the rest of your machine, not having to reboot the whole system...), AND be able to run Windows games. However, VMware fusion is still in private beta phase at the moment, and can only emulate up to DirectX 8.1 hardware support. But I believe I read somewhere that their next major step was to be able to allow for DirectX 9 emulation, so that at least one can run Windows Vista within the OS and have the Aero GUI and all. I believe apple also provides X11, which would enable for people running OS X to be able to install and run natively Linux applications within OS X as well. Of the different models, I would suggest only to avoid the Mac Mini, MacBook and entry-level iMac because of their intel GMA chip.The regular iMac models and MacBook Pro come with a Mobility X1600 by default. The 24" iMac can be upgraded to have a 256MB 7600GT which should have plenty of power for running CS Source for when you do boot to Windows, and would price/performance be your best value for a desktop Mac. If you don't mind waiting, the latest rumors indicate that Apple will be making a refresh model of the Mac Pro that will debut with the next-gen ATi Radeon cards (X2800/X2900?), *and* official CrossFire support.
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The only reason Macs are getting so popular now is because people have that clincher "and you can use windows on them." Just stick with a PC.
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#6 ohmyjibbonjones
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it depends what you want...the sleek look or backwards compatibility
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#7 codezer0
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[QUOTE="DGFreak"]The only reason Macs are getting so popular now is because people have that clincher "and you can use windows on them." Just stick with a PC.

Why would you want to be stuck with Windows Vista as your only choice of OS?
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#8 donalbane
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i ave a pc now and im thinking of getting a mac, i use my pc for; the Internet, music (itunes), and i occasionally play cs:source (but not much)

so what are the pros and cons of owning a mac to a pc for me ??? 

and i don't want ppl to start arguing over whats better. 

thanks

scarface_uk_
Not if you like playing games, you shouldn't. Seriously, Vista is like a Mac, and especially since you get Intel PC based parts in Macs now anyway, I would just save money and BUILD a PC. PCs aren't any more difficult to use, and they can do a lot more with Media than those silly ads would have you believe. For less $. The ONLY reasons to get a Mac in my mind is if 1) Money is no object, 2) You never want to play computer games, and 3) You like the design asthetics of Macs. To me, functionality beats a cute package any day of the friggin' week, but that's me. Don't be fooled into thinking PCs are harder to figure out than Macs... It's just not the case. They are different, yet equal in terms of the ease of their use.
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[QUOTE="scarface_uk_"]

i ave a pc now and im thinking of getting a mac, i use my pc for; the Internet, music (itunes), and i occasionally play cs:source (but not much)

so what are the pros and cons of owning a mac to a pc for me ???

and i don't want ppl to start arguing over whats better.

thanks

donalbane
Not if you like playing games, you shouldn't. Seriously, Vista is like a Mac, and especially since you get Intel PC based parts in Macs now anyway, I would just save money and BUILD a PC. PCs aren't any more difficult to use, and they can do a lot more with Media than those silly ads would have you believe. For less $. The ONLY reasons to get a Mac in my mind is if 1) Money is no object, 2) You never want to play computer games, and 3) You like the design asthetics of Macs. To me, functionality beats a cute package any day of the friggin' week, but that's me. Don't be fooled into thinking PCs are harder to figure out than Macs... It's just not the case. They are different, yet equal in terms of the ease of their use.



You can still play games when you boot into windows on a mac. OSX doesn't have all the security issues that come with Windows. Like someone said before me, it's nice to have a choice between different operating systems and not be stuck with just Windows.
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#10 OneWingedAngeI
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mac OS is so overrated its not even funny. dont get me wrong it is a nice OS, but it is highly lauded as so superior, when its really no major difference. the thing crashes, people who act like macs dont freeze and crash are lying, my sister and i both have MBPs and they crash/lockup from time to time.

the main thing about macs is really the sleek hardware, nothing more. but you also lose alot of the programs that are windows only unless you want to buy a copy of windows as well. i like my mac and i like knowing various OSs because im a computer science major, but i don't think they are this complete different world that people make them out to be.

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im getting a macbook when my windows xp machine gets useless because im not switiching to vista. theres a rumor that macbooks are going to start at 15" now instead of 13". thats going to be sweet. one thing i've noticed is that every person whos said stick with windows says "you can play games on windows". not everyone plays pc games. i mostly play console games and im going to get a mac for my computer. if i want to play counter strike source i'll just use boot camp to play in windows. problem solved.
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#12 donalbane
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="scarface_uk_"]

i ave a pc now and im thinking of getting a mac, i use my pc for; the Internet, music (itunes), and i occasionally play cs:source (but not much)

so what are the pros and cons of owning a mac to a pc for me ???

and i don't want ppl to start arguing over whats better.

thanks

dmanrevived

Not if you like playing games, you shouldn't. Seriously, Vista is like a Mac, and especially since you get Intel PC based parts in Macs now anyway, I would just save money and BUILD a PC. PCs aren't any more difficult to use, and they can do a lot more with Media than those silly ads would have you believe. For less $. The ONLY reasons to get a Mac in my mind is if 1) Money is no object, 2) You never want to play computer games, and 3) You like the design asthetics of Macs. To me, functionality beats a cute package any day of the friggin' week, but that's me. Don't be fooled into thinking PCs are harder to figure out than Macs... It's just not the case. They are different, yet equal in terms of the ease of their use.



You can still play games when you boot into windows on a mac. OSX doesn't have all the security issues that come with Windows. Like someone said before me, it's nice to have a choice between different operating systems and not be stuck with just Windows.

I'm guessing that he'd want to play DX10 games (CRYSIS!) and that he wouldn't want 75% of his hardware resources dedicated to emulating a foregin operating system, but perhaps my guess is wrong. If you want to play HL1 mods, by all means, get a mac. If you want to play Direct X 10 capable games, there's only one choice.  There is NOTHING the Mac can do that a PC can't, but there's plenty PCs can do that Macs cant.

And security?  The only reason Macs are safer is because hackers want to reach the most people.  PCs are around 97% of the market, so hackers target the PC.  Unfortunately, SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS also want to target the largest audience, so it's a trade off.  It's like how you treat your cat... if you keep your cat inside all it's life, it wont get hit by a car, but it will be a lot sadder than a frisky tomcat who gets to go out in the yard and get laid every night. 

And if you're soooooo scared of viruses, use Mozilla Firefox instead of IE and stop torrenting all that porn!  Problem solved.

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doesnt WoW play on mac's?
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#14 SDog624
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[QUOTE="dmanrevived"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="scarface_uk_"]

i ave a pc now and im thinking of getting a mac, i use my pc for; the Internet, music (itunes), and i occasionally play cs:source (but not much)

so what are the pros and cons of owning a mac to a pc for me ???

and i don't want ppl to start arguing over whats better.

thanks

donalbane

Not if you like playing games, you shouldn't. Seriously, Vista is like a Mac, and especially since you get Intel PC based parts in Macs now anyway, I would just save money and BUILD a PC. PCs aren't any more difficult to use, and they can do a lot more with Media than those silly ads would have you believe. For less $. The ONLY reasons to get a Mac in my mind is if 1) Money is no object, 2) You never want to play computer games, and 3) You like the design asthetics of Macs. To me, functionality beats a cute package any day of the friggin' week, but that's me. Don't be fooled into thinking PCs are harder to figure out than Macs... It's just not the case. They are different, yet equal in terms of the ease of their use.



You can still play games when you boot into windows on a mac. OSX doesn't have all the security issues that come with Windows. Like someone said before me, it's nice to have a choice between different operating systems and not be stuck with just Windows.

I'm guessing that he'd want to play DX10 games (CRYSIS!) and that he wouldn't want 75% of his hardware resources dedicated to emulating a foregin operating system, but perhaps my guess is wrong. If you want to play HL1 mods, by all means, get a mac. If you want to play Direct X 10 capable games, there's only one choice. There is NOTHING the Mac can do that a PC can't, but there's plenty PCs can do that Macs cant.

And security? The only reason Macs are safer is because hackers want to reach the most people. PCs are around 97% of the market, so hackers target the PC. Unfortunately, SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS also want to target the largest audience, so it's a trade off. It's like how you treat your cat... if you keep your cat inside all it's life, it wont get hit by a car, but it will be a lot sadder than a frisky tomcat who gets to go out in the yard and get laid every night.

And if you're soooooo scared of viruses, use Mozilla Firefox instead of IE and stop torrenting all that porn! Problem solved.



he clearly says he uses the internet and itunes (mac would be ideal) and SOMETIMES plays counter strike source (he can boot into windows for that). he doesnt need DX 10 or anything. not everyone cares about crysis and getting 100 FPS with all graphics settings maxed out. also boot camp runs windows natively. nothing needs to be emulated, therefore the hardware wouldnt be strained at all. please just stop trying. you sound like such a noob.
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="dmanrevived"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="scarface_uk_"]

i ave a pc now and im thinking of getting a mac, i use my pc for; the Internet, music (itunes), and i occasionally play cs:source (but not much)

so what are the pros and cons of owning a mac to a pc for me ???

and i don't want ppl to start arguing over whats better.

thanks

SDog624

Not if you like playing games, you shouldn't. Seriously, Vista is like a Mac, and especially since you get Intel PC based parts in Macs now anyway, I would just save money and BUILD a PC. PCs aren't any more difficult to use, and they can do a lot more with Media than those silly ads would have you believe. For less $. The ONLY reasons to get a Mac in my mind is if 1) Money is no object, 2) You never want to play computer games, and 3) You like the design asthetics of Macs. To me, functionality beats a cute package any day of the friggin' week, but that's me. Don't be fooled into thinking PCs are harder to figure out than Macs... It's just not the case. They are different, yet equal in terms of the ease of their use.



You can still play games when you boot into windows on a mac. OSX doesn't have all the security issues that come with Windows. Like someone said before me, it's nice to have a choice between different operating systems and not be stuck with just Windows.

I'm guessing that he'd want to play DX10 games (CRYSIS!) and that he wouldn't want 75% of his hardware resources dedicated to emulating a foregin operating system, but perhaps my guess is wrong. If you want to play HL1 mods, by all means, get a mac. If you want to play Direct X 10 capable games, there's only one choice. There is NOTHING the Mac can do that a PC can't, but there's plenty PCs can do that Macs cant.

And security? The only reason Macs are safer is because hackers want to reach the most people. PCs are around 97% of the market, so hackers target the PC. Unfortunately, SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS also want to target the largest audience, so it's a trade off. It's like how you treat your cat... if you keep your cat inside all it's life, it wont get hit by a car, but it will be a lot sadder than a frisky tomcat who gets to go out in the yard and get laid every night.

And if you're soooooo scared of viruses, use Mozilla Firefox instead of IE and stop torrenting all that porn! Problem solved.



he clearly says he uses the internet and itunes (mac would be ideal) and SOMETIMES plays counter strike source (he can boot into windows for that). he doesnt need DX 10 or anything. not everyone cares about crysis and getting 100 FPS with all graphics settings maxed out. also boot camp runs windows natively. nothing needs to be emulated, therefore the hardware wouldnt be strained at all. please just stop trying. you sound like such a noob.

Well, I didn't know that about the lack of emulation, but my friend with a Mac just got a PC because it was so much slower that lower priced PCs. I may not know about Macs running Windows, but I do know that Macs are overpriced. And he doesn't want to play DX10 games now, but I bet he wouldn't scoff at the idea either. It's all about value. If you like paying more money for the style of the casing, go Mac. If you care more about what it can do and saving some bread, go PC.
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ya theyre definitly over priced but you get what you pay for.
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Simpe Awnser
Game = PC
Non Gamer = Mac
Or a Macbook Pro if you can afford it.
But the Macbook Sucks at games because of integrated graphics.
Also their are rumors of a Updated Macbook With Dedicated Graphics and larger screen.

I say mac if your a console person. Just say no to the iMac because its kinda too much for the specs (But not apples fault. The same clockspeed laptop Core2 costs 3x  As much. They really need a mid tower)
But Macbook + Macbook Pro is Good. Also the mini is ok But has a GMA_950 but if you dont PC game not a issue. Also the minis are "suposedly" Getting a 7600 :question:

They are competitively priced against similar systems (Mac Pro = Workstation/Mini = SFF pc/Macbook = Core2 Laptop/Macbook Pro = Mobile Workstation? )
The imacs kinda odd though. If they ever realese a around 800$ Tower i will switch.
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Simpe Awnser
Game = PC
Non Gamer = Mac
Or a Macbook Pro if you can afford it.
But the Macbook Sucks at games because of integrated graphics.
Also their are rumors of a Updated Macbook With Dedicated Graphics and larger screen.

I say mac if your a console person. Just say no to the iMac because its kinda too much for the specs (But not apples fault. The same clockspeed laptop Core2 costs 3x  As much. They really need a mid tower)
But Macbook + Macbook Pro is Good. Also the mini is ok But has a GMA_950 but if you dont PC game not a issue. Also the minis are "suposedly" Getting a 7600 :question:

They are competitively priced against similar systems (Mac Pro = Workstation/Mini = SFF pc/Macbook = Core2 Laptop/Macbook Pro = Mobile Workstation? )
The imacs kinda odd though. If they ever realese a around 800$ Tower i will switch.
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If you own a 360, or plan on it, PCs that run can Media Center and use the 360 as a Media Center extender, and wirelessly stream music, HD and SD moveis, and photos to your TV, which I really enjoy. Then again, as I am a Mac noob I don't really know if this could also be accomplished with a dual boot mac system running Vista (or if Macs can run Vista.) But either way, a Windows Media Center/Vista PC and a 360 go together like chocolate and peanut butter. I love it.
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[QUOTE="jsl99944704"]Simpe Awnser
Game = PC
Non Gamer = Mac
Or a Macbook Pro if you can afford it.
But the Macbook Sucks at games because of integrated graphics.
Also their are rumors of a Updated Macbook With Dedicated Graphics and larger screen.

I say mac if your a console person. Just say no to the iMac because its kinda too much for the specs (But not apples fault. The same clockspeed laptop Core2 costs 3x As much. They really need a mid tower)
But Macbook + Macbook Pro is Good. Also the mini is ok But has a GMA_950 but if you dont PC game not a issue. Also the minis are "suposedly" Getting a 7600 :question:

They are competitively priced against similar systems (Mac Pro = Workstation/Mini = SFF pc/Macbook = Core2 Laptop/Macbook Pro = Mobile Workstation? )
The imacs kinda odd though. If they ever realese a around 800$ Tower i will switch.
donalbane
If you own a 360, or plan on it, PCs that run can Media Center and use the 360 as a Media Center extender, and wirelessly stream music, HD and SD moveis, and photos to your TV, which I really enjoy. Then again, as I am a Mac noob I don't really know if this could also be accomplished with a dual boot mac system running Vista (or if Macs can run Vista.) But either way, a Windows Media Center/Vista PC and a 360 go together like chocolate and peanut butter. I love it.

Somebody made a mac Version of it(Runs in OSX) dunno where it is but google it.
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="jsl99944704"]Simpe Awnser
Game = PC
Non Gamer = Mac
Or a Macbook Pro if you can afford it.
But the Macbook Sucks at games because of integrated graphics.
Also their are rumors of a Updated Macbook With Dedicated Graphics and larger screen.

I say mac if your a console person. Just say no to the iMac because its kinda too much for the specs (But not apples fault. The same clockspeed laptop Core2 costs 3x As much. They really need a mid tower)
But Macbook + Macbook Pro is Good. Also the mini is ok But has a GMA_950 but if you dont PC game not a issue. Also the minis are "suposedly" Getting a 7600 :question:

They are competitively priced against similar systems (Mac Pro = Workstation/Mini = SFF pc/Macbook = Core2 Laptop/Macbook Pro = Mobile Workstation? )
The imacs kinda odd though. If they ever realese a around 800$ Tower i will switch.
jsl99944704
If you own a 360, or plan on it, PCs that run can Media Center and use the 360 as a Media Center extender, and wirelessly stream music, HD and SD moveis, and photos to your TV, which I really enjoy. Then again, as I am a Mac noob I don't really know if this could also be accomplished with a dual boot mac system running Vista (or if Macs can run Vista.) But either way, a Windows Media Center/Vista PC and a 360 go together like chocolate and peanut butter. I love it.

Somebody made a mac Version of it(Runs in OSX) dunno where it is but google it.

That's pretty awesome. If you have a 360, check it out, no matter which computer you go with. Streaming media to the 360 is really a lot of fun.
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Just my 2 cents: I have found, that in getting a Mac, you basically have to justify getting it. What are you oing to use it for? For me, I'm a photographer. The photography progammes for it are exemplary. My brother is a musician. The music programmes blow out anything Windows has out there
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#23 jsl99944704
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Or you could Just needa good Computer for the interwebz and E-Mail and anything but Gaming.. And then you get a mac. Im considering a Macbook or building a Pc and getting a Mac Mini with a KVM switch.
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I am personally a Mac fan. And am surprised at how many people have warmed up to Macs, yet still how ignorant many people are. First off running Windows is great for games. Secondly if you aren't going to game much than you will probably never touch XP again even if you have it installed. OS X is GREAT. While one person said it still crashes, I would have to disagree. Sure, sometimes an application will freeze up, but it is different from windows. If that one app freezes you can just stop that app and not have a system wide crash. Then you restart it a second later and it's almost like nothing happened. It isn't like those periods of "Is it going to snap back on, or is it frozen?" that i got with XP. Also OS X just feels more...clean. And quick. Vista is an improvement over XP in visuals alone for the most part. OS X's core is a great core...it's Unix at the very center, how could it not be great? Also there will most likely be those new graphics cards with crossfire support for the Mac Pro, which would make that thing a gaming beast to be reckoned with. 16 gigs of RAM, (soon to be) 8 cores, 2 amazing graphics cards. What more could you want? Well hope you make a good choice!
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[QUOTE="shadowslayer30"] I am personally a Mac fan. And am surprised at how many people have warmed up to Macs, yet still how ignorant many people are. First off running Windows is great for games. Secondly if you aren't going to game much than you will probably never touch XP again even if you have it installed. OS X is GREAT. While one person said it still crashes, I would have to disagree. Sure, sometimes an application will freeze up, but it is different from windows. If that one app freezes you can just stop that app and not have a system wide crash. Then you restart it a second later and it's almost like nothing happened. It isn't like those periods of "Is it going to snap back on, or is it frozen?" that i got with XP. Also OS X just feels more...clean. And quick. Vista is an improvement over XP in visuals alone for the most part. OS X's core is a great core...it's Unix at the very center, how could it not be great? Also there will most likely be those new graphics cards with crossfire support for the Mac Pro, which would make that thing a gaming beast to be reckoned with. 16 gigs of RAM, (soon to be) 8 cores, 2 amazing graphics cards. What more could you want? Well hope you make a good choice!



sure a mac pro is a gaming beast, but where are the mac games? lol jk i know what your getting at though. i know what you mean about the crashes. sometimes when im at my uncles office (he does graphics on photoshop and freehand mx) i hear him getting mad and i always think his whole computer crashed but it ends up being only one program which he terminates, starts the program again and everything is fine. no system lock-up or restart and definitly no BSOD.

if those rumors about macbooks getting 15" screens and dedicated graphics are true, count me in as a mac user. until then i'll be using my pc which runs awesome and i love it but its only like that because i've spent most of my pc time maintaining and optimizing the system just to keep it running the way i want it to.
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I recently purchased a 15.4 inch MacBook Pro with a CD2 @ 2.33 ghz, 2 gb ram, 256 mb Radeon X1600, and 5400 rpm hard drive. I run OS X Tiger (10.4.8) on one partition and Windows Vista Home Premium on the second partition. The computer gets a Vista Performance score of a 4.7. For a laptop I think that the 15.4 inch Macbook Pro is the best laptop money can buy considering its performance, battery life, and portability. While it is true that you can get a Dell with better performance for around the same price, the computer will weigh like 9lbs and get less than an hour of battery life i.e. a desktop replacement. My older Inspiron weighs about 9 lbs + about 5 lbs for the power transformer and is 3" thick where as my MacBook Pro weighs 5.4 lbs + about 1 lb for the power transformer. This computer offers the best of both worlds: 1) A practically virus/spyware free OS for the web that boots almost instantly 2) Good gaming performance for a laptop and Windows Media Center for use with my 360 Also for anyone who is interested - in the two weeks that I have owned this computer OS X has crashed more times than Vista. However, when OS X crashed the computer quickly restarted the finder and was back in service while Vista gave me the BSOD.
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#27 Kodai_kun
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OS X is GREAT. While one person said it still crashes, I would have to disagree. Sure, sometimes an application will freeze up, but it is different from windows. If that one app freezes you can just stop that app and not have a system wide crash

Obviously you haven't used windows since about 98 then, and even then you could terminate a crashing app
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#28 SDog624
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[QUOTE="burnsniper"]I recently purchased a 15.4 inch MacBook Pro with a CD2 @ 2.33 ghz, 2 gb ram, 256 mb Radeon X1600, and 5400 rpm hard drive. I run OS X Tiger (10.4.8) on one partition and Windows Vista Home Premium on the second partition. The computer gets a Vista Performance score of a 4.7. For a laptop I think that the 15.4 inch Macbook Pro is the best laptop money can buy considering its performance, battery life, and portability. While it is true that you can get a Dell with better performance for around the same price, the computer will weigh like 9lbs and get less than an hour of battery life i.e. a desktop replacement. My older Inspiron weighs about 9 lbs + about 5 lbs for the power transformer and is 3" thick where as my MacBook Pro weighs 5.4 lbs + about 1 lb for the power transformer. This computer offers the best of both worlds: 1) A practically virus/spyware free OS for the web that boots almost instantly 2) Good gaming performance for a laptop and Windows Media Center for use with my 360 Also for anyone who is interested - in the two weeks that I have owned this computer OS X has crashed more times than Vista. However, when OS X crashed the computer quickly restarted the finder and was back in service while Vista gave me the BSOD.



wow that pretty much seals the deal for me.
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#29 shadowslayer30
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OS X is GREAT. While one person said it still crashes, I would have to disagree. Sure, sometimes an application will freeze up, but it is different from windows. If that one app freezes you can just stop that app and not have a system wide crashKodai_kun

Obviously you haven't used windows since about 98 then, and even then you could terminate a crashing app

Or you have a blazing fast computer while I have decided not to spend away my money for a super fast computer, when I could do what I want on mine just fine. I use Windows every day...part of which is why I hate it so much. If one app decides to take up system resources it often stops Explorer from working. And then the control+alt+delete doesn't even work. How are you supposed for force quit if nothing is responding at all? I suppose if I had a brand new up to date computer I would be ok, but lets face it, not everyone does. Hell half the time the mouse doesn't even move...I havn't had a crash like that on my Mac since OS 7...
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#30 Kodai_kun
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I use Windows every day...part of which is why I hate it so much. If one app decides to take up system resources it often stops Explorer from working. And then the control+alt+delete doesn't even work. How are you supposed for force quit if nothing is responding at all? I suppose if I had a brand new up to date computer I would be ok, but lets face it, not everyone does.

Are you using some craptastic ultra-mass produced dell or something? Nothing made in the last 5 years shoudl behave like that
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#31 SDog624
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I use Windows every day...part of which is why I hate it so much. If one app decides to take up system resources it often stops Explorer from working. And then the control+alt+delete doesn't even work. How are you supposed for force quit if nothing is responding at all? I suppose if I had a brand new up to date computer I would be ok, but lets face it, not everyone does.Kodai_kun

Are you using some craptastic ultra-mass produced dell or something? Nothing made in the last 5 years shoudl behave like that



just because it hasnt happened to you doesnt mean it doesnt happen to other PCs. its fairly common. it happens on my dads pc and my sisters pc and sometimes my friends. it doesnt usually happen to me but i keep my system maintained which is quite a chore.
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#32 Kodai_kun
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just because it hasnt happened to you doesnt mean it doesnt happen to other PCs. its fairly common. it happens on my dads pc and my sisters pc and sometimes my friends. it doesnt usually happen to me but i keep my system maintained which is quite a chore.

Are those built machines, or commercially made like from Best Buy or somewhere It's happened to me, but usually because there's some nasty spyware running amuck
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#33 SDog624
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[QUOTE="Kodai_kun"]

just because it hasnt happened to you doesnt mean it doesnt happen to other PCs. its fairly common. it happens on my dads pc and my sisters pc and sometimes my friends. it doesnt usually happen to me but i keep my system maintained which is quite a chore.

Are those built machines, or commercially made like from Best Buy or somewhere It's happened to me, but usually because there's some nasty spyware running amuck



i've built all of them, except my friends because he built his ofcourse. they dont know how to maintain their systems like i do but then again, i doubt most computer users do. it happens.
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#34 shadowslayer30
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I use Windows every day...part of which is why I hate it so much. If one app decides to take up system resources it often stops Explorer from working. And then the control+alt+delete doesn't even work. How are you supposed for force quit if nothing is responding at all? I suppose if I had a brand new up to date computer I would be ok, but lets face it, not everyone does.Kodai_kun

Are you using some craptastic ultra-mass produced dell or something? Nothing made in the last 5 years shoudl behave like that

Hmmm well at work they are new Dell's that aren't the lowest of the low, but are "Vista certified," which seems to be quite hard to do with Vista....lol And then my computer which is 5 years old at home has even locked up a few times when just doing simple multitasking...a few minutes after the whole thing was reformatted.
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#35 shadowslayer30
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And come to think of it at some Dell workstations (690?) I even have a few of those moments where you hold your breath and hope it will last out. Besides, lets face it, most people get their computers from Best Buy or another store, most don't even know how to build their own. We are a minority in the gaming community.