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[QUOTE="JP_Russell"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Why would it be distasteful? Because its a video game?
How are we ever going to mature as a platform if the game plots don't start looking at elements of life in a mature way? It would be a natural way (literally) for Valve to convey how their relationship has grown!
I would like to see a game take the leap and possibility of controversey to breakdown the barriers of storytelling between films, tv shows and games once and for all! Valve is the company to do it!
biggest_loser
Your argument falls flat because neither you nor anyone else wants the sex scene for the purpose of advancing maturity in games or because it's natural, you want it so you can look at boobs and ass and be sexually aroused and gratified by yet another form of media.
You can't prove what I or anyone else wants. Simple.
I don't need to. You know what I said is true. I know you don't really give a rat's ass about how it shows how Gordon's and Alyx's love for each other has advanced; hell, neither would I, which is specifically why I don't want it in there. I have common sensible knowledge of the foremost natures and desires of man (being a man, myself), and that's all I need in order to know that it is in no way feasible that any man would actually significantly or at all care about the portrayal of sex in the scene as a natural thing.
Its a goddamn way of expressing how much they love each other and how far they have come in their relationship!!biggest_loser
I'd also like to chime in on the fact that a sex scene in no way shows two people's love for each other, it shows that they like each other and have sex drives. Can it be an expression of two people's love for one another? Yes, yes it can. But sex, by itself, is not foundationally an expression of true love, though that is what it should only be for. The only thing you could do is infer or assume that the sex is accompanied by love.
Given Gordon's and Alyx's chaotic situation causing emotions to run high and judgement capabilities to be stressed; and given how so extremely little they actually, truly know each other (not to mention their relationship is currently only built on having met under high risk circumstances; never a good sign); common sense tells us that sex between the two of them at this point would be nothing more than a show of passion brought on by their attraction and liking for each other, their frayed nerves and rampant emotions, and possibly the distortion in judgement that they have real love for each other caused by the high risk circumstances in which they have had to work with, look out for, and care for one another. In other words, you can't infer or assume the sex is acompanied by love, because all signs suggest the opposite.
This is not to say they aren't right for each other, or that they can't have true love in the future. It is to say that their relationship is far too premature for sex to be a reflection of either possibilities.
What was the point of the above two paragraphs? The point was that now your argument that it is an expression of their love for each other also falls flat because they don't have real love yet. This means that your reason for wanting the sex scene cannot be to show a realistic depiction of love.
Furthermore, if such a depiction were what you really wanted and the interest provided by watching and/or hearing two fictional (and digitally realized) people have sex had nothing to do with it, then you would be fine with the idea of just "they smooch and the screen fades out with the implication of sex," to paraphrase some above suggestions. But it's apparent that you aren't, and thus is your claim that the depiction itself is a reason made clearly false. Further statements by you also make it crystal clear why you really want it, an example of which is below.
Its more about being horny and seeing Vance's "girls" okay lol?
biggest_loser
So, that rules you out as having a good reason. Let's take a look at "anyone else," as I put it before.
lol sureSorasGhost009
Only if it's interactive where players press the forward and backward key to simulate thrusting. :DTHGarrett
My naughty parts moved a bitHot_Potato
It's a black mark on the series that they already haven't or at least implied in some way that they did. Think about it, does it not seem extremely PG of them to have not done it already after all they've been through? In the real world if two young adults were embarking on such an adventure they'd be taking breaks to let loose often, in real life in the driving scenes Alex would be sucking off Gorden and so on...zipozal
Show me an advocate of the scene in this thread who gave a plausible, mature, and totally unselfish reason for wanting the scene that was not already ruled out by common sense. Notice how there are none? Now look at the plethora of posters giving mature reasons for not wanting it.
I don't need to prove anything. You and every other advocate in this thread did that for me. I'd like to point out, Big L, that this isn't a shot at you or anyone else personally. I'm merely trying to very vehemently prove my point that wanting the sex scene for anything other sexual gratification is complete and utter bull****.
Now: I was meant to say "Its MORE THAN being horney and seeing Alyx's girls." I can't believe I messed that up. Ahem..
Also you've taken the perspective of a guy. Girls play games too kids! Right Billy? Sure thing Mr. Loser!
Now here my friends is a quote from a lady....now leave your crude humour at home for a while men:
[QUOTE="--Anna--"]
They should have a love scene and have a baby. We could all watch the kid grow up. Just, think of all the plots that could come up.
This girl isn't offended by it. She probably couldn't care less. BUT the point is that everyone is going to react different and that there is no satisfying everyone :D
You have your opinions others like myself or Anna may think differently but we shall see once the scene is presented and how tasteful or tasteless it is. :D
Thank you for that essay on Love my friend....continue the research.Now: I was meant to say "Its MORE THAN being horney and seeing Alyx's girls." I can't believe I messed that up. Ahem..
Also you've taken the perspective of a guy. Girls play games too kids! Right Billy? Sure thing Mr. Loser!
Now here my friends is a quote from a lady....now leave your crude humour at home for a while men:
[QUOTE="--Anna--"]
They should have a love scene and have a baby. We could all watch the kid grow up. Just, think of all the plots that could come up.
This girl isn't offended by it. She probably couldn't care less. BUT the point is that everyone is going to react different and that there is no satisfying everyone :D
You have your opinions others like myself or Anna may think differently but we shall see once the scene is presented and how tasteful or tasteless it is. :D
biggest_loser
Here is where it ends. You are either in denial or homosexual(nothing wrong with the later, just saying) there is no way ANY GUY EVER wants to see a sex scene to watch the kids grow up, honestly, thats redicoulous.
[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Thank you for that essay on Love my friend....continue the research.Now: I was meant to say "Its MORE THAN being horney and seeing Alyx's girls." I can't believe I messed that up. Ahem..
Also you've taken the perspective of a guy. Girls play games too kids! Right Billy? Sure thing Mr. Loser!
Now here my friends is a quote from a lady....now leave your crude humour at home for a while men:
[QUOTE="--Anna--"]
They should have a love scene and have a baby. We could all watch the kid grow up. Just, think of all the plots that could come up.
This girl isn't offended by it. She probably couldn't care less. BUT the point is that everyone is going to react different and that there is no satisfying everyone :D
You have your opinions others like myself or Anna may think differently but we shall see once the scene is presented and how tasteful or tasteless it is. :D
fatzebra
Here is where it ends. You are either in denial or homosexual(nothing wrong with the later, just saying) there is no way ANY GUY EVER wants to see a sex scene to watch the kids grow up, honestly, thats redicoulous.
The kids growing up thing was from Anna! A girl who plays games! I might introduce you someday....or not! Get an autograph maybe...
As such I was saying that both guys and girls are going to react differently and have different thoughts on SEX in games. Man, woman, homosexual - they are all apart of the gaming community. Maybe it is you my friend who is in denial about the world....take a closer look at your life boyo! Changes will be made! Have you checked your horoscope recently? You should!
And yes the words SEX must be incapitals so we can get that word out there people!! :D
[QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Thank you for that essay on Love my friend....continue the research.Now: I was meant to say "Its MORE THAN being horney and seeing Alyx's girls." I can't believe I messed that up. Ahem..
Also you've taken the perspective of a guy. Girls play games too kids! Right Billy? Sure thing Mr. Loser!
Now here my friends is a quote from a lady....now leave your crude humour at home for a while men:
[QUOTE="--Anna--"]
They should have a love scene and have a baby. We could all watch the kid grow up. Just, think of all the plots that could come up.
This girl isn't offended by it. She probably couldn't care less. BUT the point is that everyone is going to react different and that there is no satisfying everyone :D
You have your opinions others like myself or Anna may think differently but we shall see once the scene is presented and how tasteful or tasteless it is. :D
biggest_loser
You talk about reality and then tell me to check a horoscope HA
Here is where it ends. You are either in denial or homosexual(nothing wrong with the later, just saying) there is no way ANY GUY EVER wants to see a sex scene to watch the kids grow up, honestly, thats redicoulous.
The kids growing up thing was from Anna! A girl who plays games! I might introduce you someday....or not! Get an autograph maybe...
As such I was saying that both guys and girls are going to react differently and have different thoughts on SEX in games. Man, woman, homosexual - they are all apart of the gaming community. Maybe it is you my friend who is in denial about the world....take a closer look at your life boyo! Changes will be made! Have you checked your horoscope recently? You should!
And yes the words SEX must be incapitals so we can get that word out there people!! :D
[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Thank you for that essay on Love my friend....continue the research.Now: I was meant to say "Its MORE THAN being horney and seeing Alyx's girls." I can't believe I messed that up. Ahem..
Also you've taken the perspective of a guy. Girls play games too kids! Right Billy? Sure thing Mr. Loser!
Now here my friends is a quote from a lady....now leave your crude humour at home for a while men:
[QUOTE="--Anna--"]
They should have a love scene and have a baby. We could all watch the kid grow up. Just, think of all the plots that could come up.
This girl isn't offended by it. She probably couldn't care less. BUT the point is that everyone is going to react different and that there is no satisfying everyone :D
You have your opinions others like myself or Anna may think differently but we shall see once the scene is presented and how tasteful or tasteless it is. :D
fatzebra
Here is where it ends. You are either in denial or homosexual(nothing wrong with the later, just saying) there is no way ANY GUY EVER wants to see a sex scene to watch the kids grow up, honestly, thats redicoulous.
The kids growing up thing was from Anna! A girl who plays games! I might introduce you someday....or not! Get an autograph maybe...
As such I was saying that both guys and girls are going to react differently and have different thoughts on SEX in games. Man, woman, homosexual - they are all apart of the gaming community. Maybe it is you my friend who is in denial about the world....take a closer look at your life boyo! Changes will be made! Have you checked your horoscope recently? You should!
And yes the words SEX must be incapitals so we can get that word out there people!! :D
sorry i messed that up anyway
You talk about reality and then tell me to consult a horoscope, yeah maybe I'll ask the wizard of oz for road directions while im at it.
I don't think you will be able to do that anymore my friend. The Wizard of Oz in his kingdom of the Emerald City has been overthrown by the Wicked Witch of the West!
She's back! Emerald City has become more akeen to City 17 ! Its like one of those Stallone, Van Damme action movies. Except this time....its personal...*clocks gun* . You're going to need a lot of firepower to overthrow the tyranny ol' man. I don't even know if there's a yellow brick road anymore. Due to the changes in global warming interest groups have insisted that all roads must natural and what not......that means dirt people! Pure dirt roads!
"Follow the yellow brick road"
"Sir you're involation of global authority in promoting non-organic architecture. Take him away!"
You will see many things on this journey my ol' friend. The ill-treament of the munchkinds will make you re-think the way humanity is being treated! You will strive for greater freedom for humanity! You will stand up and say "We must have a SEX SCENE IN EP3!"
Then you'll say to me "Loser....I don't think we're in Gamespot anymore.."
Good luck Fatzebra!
Thank you for that essay on Love my friend....continue the research.Now: I was meant to say "Its MORE THAN being horney and seeing Alyx's girls." I can't believe I messed that up. Ahem..
Also you've taken the perspective of a guy. Girls play games too kids! Right Billy? Sure thing Mr. Loser!
Now here my friends is a quote from a lady....now leave your crude humour at home for a while men:
[QUOTE="--Anna--"]
They should have a love scene and have a baby. We could all watch the kid grow up. Just, think of all the plots that could come up.
biggest_loser
This girl isn't offended by it. She probably couldn't care less. BUT the point is that everyone is going to react different and that there is no satisfying everyone :D
You have your opinions others like myself or Anna may think differently but we shall see once the scene is presented and how tasteful or tasteless it is. :D
Perhaps it was just me hallucinating, but it looked an awful lot like my sarcasm detector was off the charts when I read Anna's post.
Hello? There was a sex scene in Mafia and Max Payne 2 and no one had a whinge. biggest_loser
yeah but max payne 2's love story was so sappy~! yuck! and cliched~! *shudder* i love max payne but they've gotta cut down on the sappiness in max payne 3.
Hello? There was a sex scene in Mafia and Max Payne 2 and no one had a whinge. biggest_loser
So now every game with a possible love interest of the protagonist has to have a token sex scene? Please... A sex scene does not fit HL2, and Gordon and Alyx are not a couple of aphrodisiacs who would get it on because of a still shallow attraction to each other. It's just that simple. As said before, the only reason you or anyone else wants the scene is sexual gratification. The more sensible of us have sexual inhibitions, that's all.
Where did you get that from? lol, all I said was that Mafia and Max Payne 2 had sex in them - where did you get that utterly weird assumption from....that was a little off the charter ever for your Great Uncle Loser.
As for the guy above you....sappy? SAPPY? There was not a second of sentimentality in that game. Commandos, now that was a sappy game! Mainly because it had a sapper in it ...but lets not go there...
Oh c'mon. Now you are just being cynical and ridiculous. I did not imply whatsoever that "every game with a possible love interest of the protagonist has to have a token sex scene".Where did you get that from? lol, all I said was that Mafia and Max Payne 2 had sex in them - where did you get that utterly weird assumption from....that was a little off the charter ever for your Great Uncle Loser.
biggest_loser
I meant that if you think the fact that Mafia and Max Payne 2 have a sex scene justifies a desire to have a sex scene in Half-Life 2, then you can justify a desire to have a sex scene in every game with a love interest of the protagonist. If you want a sex scene in a game like HL2 and think it should be okay just because other games have done it, you might as well want a sex scene in every last game with a protagonist who has a love interest.
Hello? There was a sex scene in Mafia and Max Payne 2 and no one had a whinge. biggest_loser
This I know. Max Payne is very different from Half-Life. I personally hated the Max Payne storyline and had no intrest whatsoever. Now being that Max Payne isn't anywhere near as popular as Half-Life, it's understandable that something like that could be thrown into the story and no one would care. I'm not saying that it's wrong to have sex in video games, and it's appropriate for some storylines, but do you really think that Valve would completely blow everything we know as Half-Life so that there can be a 10 second scene of them having sex? I don't recall there being any cut scenes with Gordon and I don't think that in that way it would be best to present him for the first time.
It's impressive what sex can do to people. I think I fount the perfect specimen to pitty this world. To the laboratory...OoSuperMarioO
It's impressive what sex can do to people. I think I fount the perfect specimen to pitty this world. To the laboratory...OoSuperMarioO
lol....yes....yes it is. Just look at the fury it seems to give people...yeesh tough day at the forums here! I feel like Jesus teaching on the Sabbath and being booed.
GiveMeIce: Just because you don't like Max Payne please don't pay out that game - that is one of my all time favourite games and it is arguably the best third person shooter. "No one would care". I think they would because the story is perhaps the most important component of that series. No game is as popular as Half-Life but Max Payne still has an enormous following...Again though I don't see how a sex scene, presented in whatever way shape or form etc. would tarnish whats come before in the previous games. How would one scene in EP3 spoil Half-Life 1? Is anyone else confused by that?
Again though I don't see how a sex scene, presented in whatever way shape or form etc. would tarnish whats come before in the previous games. How would one scene in EP3 spoil Half-Life 1? Is anyone else confused by that?
biggest_loser
It wouldn't spoil Half-Life 1, and it wouldn't necessarily spoil the series, but it would definitely mar it. There are games out there in which sex scenes fit, and there are games that don't, and a game from the HL series is the latter. There is no reason to have the sex scene in a game series that's never had anything remotely relative to such a thing other than to please the less mature fans' sexual desires. It can't be done for realism andit can't be done for advancements in gaming, for reasons I've already gone over. So if it was added, it would be insulting for a game of the infamous HL franchise to stoop as low as to appease sexual desires to gain extra praise from a less mature audience (also garnering a much more intense disapproval over that aspect from the more mature). Half-Life doesn't need a sex scene to be great, and the sex scene isn't needed for any valid reason, therefore it doesn't need to exist.
[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]It's impressive what sex can do to people. I think I fount the perfect specimen to pitty this world. To the laboratory...biggest_loser
It's impressive what sex can do to people. I think I fount the perfect specimen to pitty this world. To the laboratory...OoSuperMarioO
lol....yes....yes it is. Just look at the fury it seems to give people...yeesh tough day at the forums here! I feel like Jesus teaching on the Sabbath and being booed.
GiveMeIce: Just because you don't like Max Payne please don't pay out that game - that is one of my all time favourite games and it is arguably the best third person shooter. "No one would care". I think they would because the story is perhaps the most important component of that series. No game is as popular as Half-Life but Max Payne still has an enormous following...Again though I don't see how a sex scene, presented in whatever way shape or form etc. would tarnish whats come before in the previous games. How would one scene in EP3 spoil Half-Life 1? Is anyone else confused by that?
These ideas are madness my friend. Ideas like these will tarnish a belove series. Does the Senate approve of this?Never! The senate is finished you fiend! This thread will live on forever! There is no stopping us now. I have already contacted Count Dooku and Lord Lombardi! The scene will be complete within hours! There is no need for Valve to ask the Senate (this thread) for approval! You're too late! Episode Three is going to go where no game has gone before! Mwahahahah. Set sail for new world my friends! Ohhhh yes....there will be sex! Ahahah.
I'm going to establish a new party independent from this Senate and the Republic! Has the name Confederacy of Independent Systems been taken yet? Anyone?
Only if it's interactive where players press the forward and backward key to simulate thrusting. :DTHGarrett
LOL yeah when I saw this thread, my first thoughts were "Only if it's interactive!" lol but that seems to be a Half-life series trademark so if anything does happen, i'm betting on the player being able to control it ;)
Topic ends before it begins. How tragic.Judza
Hmm... Six page thread? Guess you called that one a bit too soon :P
[QUOTE="THGarrett"]Only if it's interactive where players press the forward and backward key to simulate thrusting. :DForerunner-117
LOL yeah when I saw this thread, my first thoughts were "Only if it's interactive!" lol but that seems to be a Half-life series trademark so if anything does happen, i'm betting on the player being able to control it ;)
Topic ends before it begins. How tragic.Judza
Hmm... Six page thread? Guess you called that one a bit too soon :P
lol, no it will not be interactive and you won't be able to press the down arrow ..
Most likely she might take off her top and then the screen might fade to black during some portion of the game, not the end.
Although we have experienced a hug in the game....remember at the start of EP1? Hey anything is possible with this "modern" technology you young people go on about...
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