SKIDROW addresses UbiSoft

I know we've had this discussion for ages now, but this is too epic to pass.

SKIDROW addressed UbiSoft in their ReadMe file for Assassin's Creed 2

Thank you Ubisoft, this was quiete a challenge for us, but nothing stops the leading force from doing what we do. Next time focus on the game and not on the DRM. It was probably horrible for all legit users. We just make their lifes easier."SKIDROW

Wow...even StarForce lasted longer than this.

Now pirates get the reward of playing any time and anywhere they want...and legit players have to suffer with DRM.

How about SKIDROW focus on creating something rather than breaking others hard work and really contribute something to gaming? That would be something impressive. The ego and dishonesty from these goons is sickening. Renevent42

They created something. They fixed Ubisoft's mistake. Legit customers can take advantage of their work too. This is impressive.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]How about SKIDROW focus on creating something rather than breaking others hard work and really contribute something to gaming? That would be something impressive. The ego and dishonesty from these goons is sickening. Baranga

They created something. They fixed Ubisoft's mistake. Legit customers can take advantage of their work too. This is impressive.

what about those who cant afford the games?

mrkiasume

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]How about SKIDROW focus on creating something rather than breaking others hard work and really contribute something to gaming? That would be something impressive. The ego and dishonesty from these goons is sickening. Renevent42

They created something. They fixed Ubisoft's mistake. Legit customers can take advantage of their work too. This is impressive.

I agree with you in a way, but I am glad what happened has happened.

I do not support this DRM at all, and I am glad someone proved it to UbiSoft that these measures are pointless in the long term.

[QUOTE="mrkiasume"]

what about those who cant afford the games?

Franko_3

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

They created something. They fixed Ubisoft's mistake. Legit customers can take advantage of their work too. This is impressive.

chandu83

I agree with you in a way, but I am glad what happened has happened.

I do not support this DRM at all, and I am glad someone proved it to UbiSoft that these measures are pointless in the long term.

[QUOTE="Franko_3"][QUOTE="mrkiasume"]

what about those who cant afford the games?

Lox_Cropek

[QUOTE="Renevent42"][QUOTE="Baranga"]

They created something. They fixed Ubisoft's mistake. Legit customers can take advantage of their work too. This is impressive.

chandu83

I agree with you in a way, but I am glad what happened has happened.

I do not support this DRM at all, and I am glad someone proved it to UbiSoft that these measures are pointless in the long term.

Do you guys really think SKIDROW cracks these games to make life easier on those who don't want to deal witht he DRM? Hell no. They're trying to make it sound like what they do is acceptable and it makes me sick. Bunch of criminals who are doing way more harm than good.

Do you guys really think SKIDROW cracks these games to make life easier on those who don't want to deal witht he DRM? Hell no. They're trying to make it sound like what they do is acceptable and it makes me sick. Bunch of criminals who are doing way more harm than good.

w4rrior17

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]

Do you guys really think SKIDROW cracks these games to make life easier on those who don't want to deal witht he DRM? Hell no. They're trying to make it sound like what they do is acceptable and it makes me sick. Bunch of criminals who are doing way more harm than good.

Agent_Kaliaver

I've never been taken advantage by any developer/publisher in my 20 years of gaming. Last I checked I still have the option to decide on what I purchase...and consequently what I don't purchase.

Value wise, gaming offers (at least for me) one of the best value for my money.

Major props to these guys. Game developers need to understand that this new wave of DRM has no place in gaming.

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]

Do you guys really think SKIDROW cracks these games to make life easier on those who don't want to deal witht he DRM? Hell no. They're trying to make it sound like what they do is acceptable and it makes me sick. Bunch of criminals who are doing way more harm than good.

Agent_Kaliaver

Major props to these guys. Game developers need to understand that this new wave of DRM has no place in gaming.

da_bomb123

Ubisoft is committed to DRM and they're only going to get more advanced with every release. They probably have an entire department dedicated to anti-piracy.

SKIDROW may have won the battle, but I don't see them outmaneuvering a billion dollar corporation for long.

I really lost interest in this game after hearing about all the DRM problems. I cheer for the underdog SKIDROW though, stick it to the man!Mephers

I mean am I wrong? Seem to be in a minority here.

It's really not...and they aren't helping the gaming industry...what they do actually hurts it and is why we have the situation we have today. Renevent42

do skidrow just crack the games with this sort of over the top drm? sort of noble, in a way, if they do. but if they dont then their claim of making life easier for legitimate users has to be tongue in cheek :D

Logic:

Pirates stole -> companies lost money -> companies were pissed -> companies developed DRM -> pirates crack -> pirates steal -> company pissed -> stronger DRM

Cause of problem: pirates stealing

SKIDROW are the lowest form of gamer, they are basically Somali pirates and try to justify their actions with "companies are screwing us" propaganda

If you support them you need to analyze your morality and realize you are a thief and need to stop.

do skidrow just crack the games with this sort of over the top drm? sort of noble, in a way, if they do. but if they dont then their claim of making life easier for legitimate users has to be tongue in cheek :D

Macutchi

Piracy on the PC is way higher than on the 360 or PS3...and I mean way freaking higher. Renevent42

Logic:

Pirates stole -> companies lost money -> companies were pissed -> companies developed DRM -> pirates crack -> pirates steal -> company pissed -> stronger DRM

Cause of problem: pirates stealing

SKIDROW are the lowest form of gamer, they are basically Somali pirates and try to justify their actions with "companies are screwing us" propaganda

If you support them you need to analyze your morality and realize you are a thief and need to stop.

Piracy on the PC is way higher than on the 360 or PS3...and I mean way freaking higher. Renevent42

I can't forget a question from a console gamer on these forums, this is not a pirating example or it might be if the end result was such a thing, he asked why can't he play CoD 4 after he downloaded the latest patch for it (he did not have the game at all) and then he asked "isn't the PC version free?...

I hate PC pirates but I don't even have words to describe the ignorance and stupidity of console players that pirate PC games. For me, if PC pirates would be a fractured bone, console players that pirate on PC would be something like cancer, or some extremely deadly disease.

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]Piracy on the PC is way higher than on the 360 or PS3...and I mean way freaking higher. w4rrior17

I do say.

And I was responding to:

"as if piracy was a PC only issue and not something doable on consoles"

The issue is not if it's doable...it's how much of an impact (or at least it's perceived impact) has on things. So that was the point of my comment...what's your point? Nothing? Alrighty then!

I will be angry if Ubi uses this as an excuse to drop PC support altogether.

Would people care if they moved away from PC? Horrible DRM, Games that are unplayable on release (due to DRM or bugs)... I cant say i will miss them tbh...

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="Franko_3"] exactly what we needed today. a stupid thread promoting people who pirate and people promoting piracy because they can't afford to pay 50$, but they can afford broadband internet to pirate what they can't afford. You guys piss me offFranko_3

I can tell that games are not cheaper than here in India. They just are not. If you convert the dollar amount, perhaps they are a few dollars cheaper, but you have to take into account the purchasing power. Once you do that, you will realize that games are a huge luxury for most people.

Hence they pirate.Not support what they do.

In fact I paid $75 for the new Splinter Cell Echelon Edition, but fact is still a fact. Games are very expensive in India.

Because everyone pirates on PC, and I'm by far disgusted mostly by those console kid*#ts that ask the most stupidly obviously illegal questions about downloading PC games and cracks. Pc gaming doesn't have piracy just because there are a lot of PC "gamers" that pirate, but because everyone has a PC and console gamers have no reason (in their twisted mind) to buy PC games, so they just pirate.

DanielDust

He speaks the truth. I know console gamers who pirate on the PC. Their claim, they don't want to buy the same game on the PC and the console, but they want to enjoy better graphics.

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]

Do you guys really think SKIDROW cracks these games to make life easier on those who don't want to deal witht he DRM? Hell no. They're trying to make it sound like what they do is acceptable and it makes me sick. Bunch of criminals who are doing way more harm than good.

Agent_Kaliaver

Would people care if they moved away from PC? Horrible DRM, Games that are unplayable on release (due to DRM or bugs)... I cant say i will miss them tbh...

KalDurenik

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]Piracy on the PC is way higher than on the 360 or PS3...and I mean way freaking higher. w4rrior17

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33866696

http://www.acslater.com/2009/11/02/microsoft-banning-more-modded-xbox-360s-with-leak-of-modern-warfare-2/

[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]

[QUOTE="Renevent42"]Piracy on the PC is way higher than on the 360 or PS3...and I mean way freaking higher. Renevent42

I do say.

And I was responding to:

"as if piracy was a PC only issue and not something doable on consoles"

The issue is not if it's doable...it's how much of an impact (or at least it's perceived impact) has on things. So that was the point of my comment...what's your point? Nothing? Alrighty then!

So with that said, the impact of piracy on consoles is way higher than on the PC in my opinion.

Would people care if they moved away from PC? Horrible DRM, Games that are unplayable on release (due to DRM or bugs)... I cant say i will miss them tbh...

KalDurenik

Ubisoft believed this drm would be a good business choice. Meanwhile, there is a fabulous game called Bad Company 2 that doesn't have draconian DRM and has sold much better than Assassin's Creed II.

[QUOTE="mrkiasume"]

what about those who cant afford the games?

Franko_3

Assassin's creed on the other hand is 80 dollars also mw2 and the new splintercell. Heck all new games are expensive as hell.

Minimum wage here is 200 dollars per month.

Also I can't understand how a company goes from no protection at all (PoP 2008) to a super restrictive DRM scheme, it still puzzles me. Gamartto

I recall Ubisoft not including DRM on PoP on PC was to prove that DRM has no effect on sales.

Here is the article:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/12/pc-prince-of-persia-contains-no-drm-its-a-trap.ars

I will be angry if Ubi uses this as an excuse to drop PC support altogether.

psn8214

are u fludging ******?!?!?! 360 has way more piracy then pc for the fact that u can play a game online too! not like on pc with cracked server and all that smancy stuff. MS had to ban over 1 million ppl just becuase they pirated MW2 got caught! so i think if anything MS sould be more worried about thier priacy. also most ppl not all, but most ppl who pirated a game, pirated it becuase they had no intent of buying it, for instence, who really wanted AC2? it sucked from the beginning, but AC1 i mean that was truelly orginal, i even bought that game, but piracy isnt affecting pc gamers as much as its hurting 360. ps3 is still untouchable so its safe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33866696

http://www.acslater.com/2009/11/02/microsoft-banning-more-modded-xbox-360s-with-leak-of-modern-warfare-2/

Wildedge93

Again, wrong. The fact is if you check the trackers PC is king of piracy (out of PS3, 360, Wii).

Also, your facts are a bit off...over one million people were banned from live, but not just from pirating MW2...it was anybody that pirated (any game) and got caught.

For your knowledge, over 4 million people pirated MW2 on the PC alone ;)

Could you imagine how many people would be "banned" if there was some system to check if you had any pirated games on your PC? I'd wager it would be millions upon millions of people.

And here's the big difference between pirating on the PC and on a 360...which you actually partially pointed out. One is you have to actually alter your Xbox, and more importantly, YOU CAN GET BANNED FROM LIVE!

That's a pretty big deterrent.

On the PC you just download and play (no alteration of your computer)...couldn't be easier. And better yet, you don't have to worry about any consequences of playing pirating games.

[QUOTE="Wildedge93"]
are u fludging ******?!?!?! 360 has way more piracy then pc for the fact that u can play a game online too! not like on pc with cracked server and all that smancy stuff. MS had to ban over 1 million ppl just becuase they pirated MW2 got caught! so i think if anything MS sould be more worried about thier priacy. also most ppl not all, but most ppl who pirated a game, pirated it becuase they had no intent of buying it, for instence, who really wanted AC2? it sucked from the beginning, but AC1 i mean that was truelly orginal, i even bought that game, but piracy isnt affecting pc gamers as much as its hurting 360. ps3 is still untouchable so its safe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33866696

http://www.acslater.com/2009/11/02/microsoft-banning-more-modded-xbox-360s-with-leak-of-modern-warfare-2/

Renevent42

Again, wrong. The fact is if you check the trackers PC is king of piracy (out of PS3, 360, Wii).

For your knowledge, over 4 million people pirated MW2 on the PC ;)