So I just finished Mass Effect 2...

[QUOTE="andalore"]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but Mass Effect 2 couldn't keep my attention, I think mass effect 2 was TOO open, I kept getting sidetracked trying to finish all of the Side Quests before the 'point of no return' that I forgot most of the story by the time it was a main quest.

teardropmina

then...I don't know how to describe F:NV...obscenely open?

[QUOTE="teardropmina"]

[QUOTE="andalore"]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but Mass Effect 2 couldn't keep my attention, I think mass effect 2 was TOO open, I kept getting sidetracked trying to finish all of the Side Quests before the 'point of no return' that I forgot most of the story by the time it was a main quest.

FelipeInside

then...I don't know how to describe F:NV...obscenely open?

ME side quests? those barren planet explorations????

ME2's strength is its side quests. Talia one is my favorite, a nice pre-text building, map clearing, truth revealing, and then finish with a courtroom scene in which you can put your paragon/renegade points to use.

Samara one is also top notch, demanding very high paragon/renegade points to handle the quest really well or "badly."

map clearing focus ones I like Grunt the most, nicely integrated with Grunt's character and korgan history.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="teardropmina"]

then...I don't know how to describe F:NV...obscenely open?

teardropmina

ME side quests? those barren planet explorations????

ME2's strength is its side quests. Talia one is my favorite, a nice pre-text building, map clearing, truth revealing, and then finish with a courtroom scene in which you can put your paragon/renegade points to use.

Samara one is also top notch, demanding very high paragon/renegade points to handle the quest really well or "badly."

map clearing focus ones I like Grunt the most, nicely integrated with Grunt's character and korgan history.

[QUOTE="andalore"]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but Mass Effect 2 couldn't keep my attention, I think mass effect 2 was TOO open, I kept getting sidetracked trying to finish all of the Side Quests before the 'point of no return' that I forgot most of the story by the time it was a main quest.

teardropmina

then...I don't know how to describe F:NV...obscenely open?

Fallout New Vegas is Different, it doesnt really have the same story structure as Mass Effect, on F:NV you are free to explore from the start, it's an open world and you're free to make up your own story and go nearly anywhere in the game world and you can choose to ignore the main quest but in Mass Effect you're Restrained to playing out Commander Shepard's story, and whilst It does offer some freedom in the Side Quests and Moral Choices its a very story driven game and I think theres just too much to get distracted by on ME2 when compared to ME1, and it's not helped by the fact that the game rushes you into finishing it especially when [spoiler] The Normandy's Crew get's abducted [/spoiler]

still havent finished the game but its definately a great game... loved ME1 and ME2 is even better !!!

[QUOTE="teardropmina"]

[QUOTE="andalore"]

I loved Mass Effect 1 but Mass Effect 2 couldn't keep my attention, I think mass effect 2 was TOO open, I kept getting sidetracked trying to finish all of the Side Quests before the 'point of no return' that I forgot most of the story by the time it was a main quest.

FelipeInside

then...I don't know how to describe F:NV...obscenely open?

Fallout New Vegas is Different, it doesnt really have the same story structure as Mass Effect, on F:NV you are free to explore from the start, it's an open world and you're free to make up your own story and go nearly anywhere in the game world and you can choose to ignore the main quest but in Mass Effect you're Restrained to playing out Commander Shepard's story, and whilst It does offer some freedom in the Side Quests and Moral Choices its a very story driven game and I think theres just too much to get distracted by on ME2 when compared to ME1, and it's not helped by the fact that the game rushes you into finishing it especially when -spoiler-

andalore

what you say applied more to Fallout3 rather than F:NV, whose main storyline has even more rush factor than that of ME2. and if you just wonder anywhere from the start in F:NV, you will die very uglyly.

at any rate, from what you say, I think "distraction from main story" is better than "too open" to describe ME2.

[QUOTE="al0rion"]The one thing that made it for me was fighting alongside Garrus and Miranda at the end, and then taking down that giant robot and making a break for the ship just before the collector ship blew up. The whole cut scene was just me shouting, 'Oh sh*t, cheese it!' So epic. And yes, Mass Effect 3 will measure up. The amount of universal acclaim that these games have had, they've got too much invested in this franchise to balls it up. It will be of trruly epic, EPIC, proportions.chandu83

I thought that part was absolutely awesome. I was shouting in my mind, "JUUUUUUUUUUMPP!" and then he makes that leap! its awesome!

its so true recently i played it for 3rd time with dlc and you can't resist it.Every vharacter has a story which will take you deep in emotions you become attached and the gameplay and graphics were awesome i bought it for 20$ such a steal

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="teardropmina"]

then...I don't know how to describe F:NV...obscenely open?

teardropmina

ME side quests? those barren planet explorations????

ME2's strength is its side quests. Talia one is my favorite, a nice pre-text building, map clearing, truth revealing, and then finish with a courtroom scene in which you can put your paragon/renegade points to use.

Samara one is also top notch, demanding very high paragon/renegade points to handle the quest really well or "badly."

map clearing focus ones I like Grunt the most, nicely integrated with Grunt's character and korgan history.

The side-quests were things like buy that Krogan a sushi. Some side quests didn't even have dialogue, you're just dumped on a ship and the quest was to kill everything in five minutes, no explanation or anything.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]It's the hype talking. You know after you've seen a movie and you put it in your top five list, and think it's really amazing. But after a year you realize that it wasn't that good, and you feel ashamed you made that claim .FelipeInside

[QUOTE="teardropmina"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Obscenely open....hahahahahahah. I understand what ANDALORE means by getting side tracked more than ME1.... but the side quests in ME2 were actually interesting and worth doing for the story. I found the side quests in ME1 a bit boring...GeneralShowzer

ME side quests? those barren planet explorations????

ME2's strength is its side quests. Talia one is my favorite, a nice pre-text building, map clearing, truth revealing, and then finish with a courtroom scene in which you can put your paragon/renegade points to use.

Samara one is also top notch, demanding very high paragon/renegade points to handle the quest really well or "badly."

map clearing focus ones I like Grunt the most, nicely integrated with Grunt's character and korgan history.

The side-quests were things like buy that Krogan a sushi. Some side quests didn't even have dialogue, you're just dumped on a ship and the quest was to kill everything in five minutes, no explanation or anything.

you have your way of defining "side quest," and I have mine, that's that.

you don't need to do any of the NPC loyalty quest to proceed. there are key recuriting missions which are part of main story, but all loyalty quests (as per I've been talking about in my pervious posts) are optional, therefore "side quests" in my mind. whether a quest is interesting or not is completely irrelevent.

That game has some really amazing production values. It nearly turned me off a lot of other games simply because said other games have glaringly sub-par cinematics/voice-acting/blahblahblah-polish-related-stuff.

Still, the gameplay and basic plotline are ass by any decent RPG standards - in those aspects (and those are the end-all, be-all most important parts of any RPG game) Fallout: New Vegas takes a dump on Mass Effect 2 and flushes it down a semifunctional irradiated toilet bowl. I was impressed as hell on my first playthrough, but after that I realized that the game's only golden on the surface.

True mass effect 2 is one of the best games i have ever played.

I think the game had big flaws; the level design was very poor with blocky maps all around, had an very rushed ending, moral decisions were handled poorly, no open sectionsand the whole assemble your team plot felt pointless when the ending was so rushed. Nevertheless it was a great game, but when i played iti couldn't overlookits flaws. I think it is a problem that you can see better if you played all the latest Bioware games... they are playing it too safe, it is all very predictable. I always had the impression that ME2 was practically the same game (if you remove the gameplay aspects) than DA:O and vice-versa.

I enjoyed ME2, much more than ME1. But I feel like I am missing out on something since I can not quite understand why so many people here give it such stellar praises as they do. As for RPG games go, it still falls way short in so many ways. Not even the quality characterization and dialogue it has can hide that.