So what is the best overall F2P MMORPG

There was a thread a while ago arguing which is better of Rift, Neverwinter, and Tera, but I never really got an answer. Is there any others or are those the main 3 F2P? And which is the better pick to invest my time into?

Only tried Rift, but from what I played I can tell you that Rift is amazing. At least until level 30. Game starts getting really grindy after that.

RIFT certainly has the most generous F2P model

I haven't played Neverwinter, but both Rift and Tera are good. I would have to pick Rift though.

Rift is far most superior F2play mmo atm.

I've tried LOTRO and RIFT, I couldn't get into either; I found out I hate MMOs. But I can tell you Rift probably has the best F2P model out there. And it is pretty high quality game. Unless you like the lore, I would stay away from LOTRO, as you're going to have to start ponying up money at around level 20.

Ok thanks guys, im gonna give Rift a try

I enjoy DC Universe Online. It gets pretty repetitive sometimes but the combat is pretty fun and being a superhero is pretty awesome. It's not a great game but it's definitely worth playing if you like DC.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]You can't go wrong with Guild Wars 2 or The Secret World. Both are F2P and very good and polished. Lots of people praise Rift too but I can't comment on that since I haven't played it.KABCOOL

I didn't really like GW2 that much... I had a mixed experience leveling... Some zones were fun and it was a blast 100%ing them, others felt like a chore and a grind.  But what really got me was being max level.  All through the leveling process I heard people mentioning scaling loot, fractals, hard mode instances/explorables, etc... So right when I reached 80, I had about 70 gold saved up from leveling and nothing to spend it on... I grabbed a set of exotic gear from the trading post... It was like 12 gold for all of it and I assumed since it was cheap, readily available, etc, that I would replace it in all this hard mode content I kept hearing about.

Turns out I was wrong.  That gear is the best gear in the game.  Everything you get from ALL other content is purely cosmetic.  Now I get that the game was designed to not be a gear grind and focused on PvP... But its and MMO... And there is no character progression, just spamming content for "prettier" gear.

You can't go wrong with Guild Wars 2 or The Secret World. Both are F2P and very good and polished. Lots of people praise Rift too but I can't comment on that since I haven't played it.FelipeInside

GW2 and TSW are not F2P...they both require a box purchase. 

By your logic all console games are free.

[QUOTE="KABCOOL"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]You can't go wrong with Guild Wars 2 or The Secret World. Both are F2P and very good and polished. Lots of people praise Rift too but I can't comment on that since I haven't played it.Squeets

I didn't really like GW2 that much... I had a mixed experience leveling... Some zones were fun and it was a blast 100%ing them, others felt like a chore and a grind.  But what really got me was being max level.  All through the leveling process I heard people mentioning scaling loot, fractals, hard mode instances/explorables, etc... So right when I reached 80, I had about 70 gold saved up from leveling and nothing to spend it on... I grabbed a set of exotic gear from the trading post... It was like 12 gold for all of it and I assumed since it was cheap, readily available, etc, that I would replace it in all this hard mode content I kept hearing about.

Turns out I was wrong.  That gear is the best gear in the game.  Everything you get from ALL other content is purely cosmetic.  Now I get that the game was designed to not be a gear grind and focused on PvP... But its and MMO... And there is no character progression, just spamming content for "prettier" gear.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]You can't go wrong with Guild Wars 2 or The Secret World. Both are F2P and very good and polished. Lots of people praise Rift too but I can't comment on that since I haven't played it.HyperWarlock

GW2 and TSW are not F2P...they both require a box purchase. 

By your logic all console games are free.

Someone already pointed that out, read the whole topic.

When I talk about MMOs, I always think something like GW2 is F2P cause there is no sub.  The correct term is B2P but I think everyone gets the picture.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]You can't go wrong with Guild Wars 2 or The Secret World. Both are F2P and very good and polished. Lots of people praise Rift too but I can't comment on that since I haven't played it.FelipeInside

GW2 and TSW are not F2P...they both require a box purchase. 

By your logic all console games are free.

Someone already pointed that out, read the whole topic.

When I talk about MMOs, I always think something like GW2 is F2P cause there is no sub.  The correct term is B2P but I think everyone gets the picture.

There are a ton of Free To Play games out there.

But from the ones you mentioned. Rift is pretty good, probably has the best business model of the three, but I personally like a more hands on game than what Rift offers so I prefer Never Winter and Tera.

That being said, Never Winter really limits players to how they can fight, only allowing like 6 or so abilities to be equiped and used at any given moment where Tera gives players a lot more moves and even allows them to build up combos.

But anyway. What kind of MMORPG are you looking for?

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[QUOTE="KABCOOL"] I played GW2 at release until lvl 80 and completely lost interest after that. I'll give rift a try and see how I like it. I really want to play Final Fantast XIV, but I can't bring myself to spend $30 to buy the game and an additional $15 every month. Just too much money.FelipeInside

I didn't really like GW2 that much... I had a mixed experience leveling... Some zones were fun and it was a blast 100%ing them, others felt like a chore and a grind.  But what really got me was being max level.  All through the leveling process I heard people mentioning scaling loot, fractals, hard mode instances/explorables, etc... So right when I reached 80, I had about 70 gold saved up from leveling and nothing to spend it on... I grabbed a set of exotic gear from the trading post... It was like 12 gold for all of it and I assumed since it was cheap, readily available, etc, that I would replace it in all this hard mode content I kept hearing about.

Turns out I was wrong.  That gear is the best gear in the game.  Everything you get from ALL other content is purely cosmetic.  Now I get that the game was designed to not be a gear grind and focused on PvP... But its and MMO... And there is no character progression, just spamming content for "prettier" gear.

Outside of WvW, everything on that list is just what I complained about.

- Crafting legendaries

- Getting dyes

- Racial sets

- Crafting skills

All of it is meaningless and just cosmetic.  The legendary swords that require hundreds of hours to 100% a map and farm materials for have the SAME stats as the exotic swords you can buy for 2 gold right at level 80.  Dyes, there are hundreds, and most are just gold sinks (farm dye? no, you either buy it or you don't have it, simple)... Crafting is meaningless because NONE of the best gear you can craft is better than a 2g exotic.  Not to mention it cost dozens of gold (either spent outright or dozens of gold of lost profit from not selling mats) to level.

And WvW isn't even that great, just a giant cluster.  Someone drops their $1000 on being a general or whatever and then a big group of 50 people or whatever just follow them around attacking gates/objectives.  When you reach a gate, a bunch of enemy players just stand around aoeing your pack.  After several minutes either we break the objective and move on or they kill us all with aoe.  Either way we just do the same thing again.  There is no strategy, there is no complexity, individual effort is meaningless because it takes dozens of people to break one of those objectives.

There was one time I was running dead center in the "pack" of people... They have a speed boost up 100% of the time... Well at some point I was crippled, fell out of the back of the group, fell out of range of speed boosts, was abandoned, etc, and died instantly... Then what? Oh nothing to bad, you just respawn several miles away back at the original entrence to the entire battlefield in the back of your server's main base.  But don't worry, you can just mount up and be back over there in seconds.  Wait nevermind, no mounts, you just have to run in a straight line for 10 minutes and then once again just be one of 100 people running around in a big pack banging on doors and getting aoed on.

^^ Most of ur post was about WvW and getting gear. You forget that GW2 was always marketed as an MMO different to other MMOs (or for people who hate traditional MMOs).FelipeInside

WvW and getting cosmetic gear are all there is to do in GW2.

All of the explorable dungeons? Cosmetic gear.  Fractals? Cosmetic gear. WvW? Cosmetic gear.  Exploration? Cosmetic gear. That's it.

Structured PVP is even less about "gear" than the normal game since entering sPVP automatically makes you level 80, unlocks everything in the game on your character, and gives you a full set of best in slot gear... And if that gear isn't what your looking for, there are vendors that give away all the gear/upgrades/sigils/etc so you can mix/match other set bonuses and the likes... No currency, no nothing.  

Just join a game and earn glory... Which is spent on what? You guessed it, cosmetic gear.

Outside of WvW, everything on that list is just what I complained about.

- Crafting legendaries

- Getting dyes

- Racial sets

- Crafting skills

All of it is meaningless and just cosmetic.  The legendary swords that require hundreds of hours to 100% a map and farm materials for have the SAME stats as the exotic swords you can buy for 2 gold right at level 80.  Dyes, there are hundreds, and most are just gold sinks (farm dye? no, you either buy it or you don't have it, simple)... Crafting is meaningless because NONE of the best gear you can craft is better than a 2g exotic.  Not to mention it cost dozens of gold (either spent outright or dozens of gold of lost profit from not selling mats) to level.

And WvW isn't even that great, just a giant cluster.  Someone drops their $1000 on being a general or whatever and then a big group of 50 people or whatever just follow them around attacking gates/objectives.  When you reach a gate, a bunch of enemy players just stand around aoeing your pack.  After several minutes either we break the objective and move on or they kill us all with aoe.  Either way we just do the same thing again.  There is no strategy, there is no complexity, individual effort is meaningless because it takes dozens of people to break one of those objectives.

There was one time I was running dead center in the "pack" of people... They have a speed boost up 100% of the time... Well at some point I was crippled, fell out of the back of the group, fell out of range of speed boosts, was abandoned, etc, and died instantly... Then what? Oh nothing to bad, you just respawn several miles away back at the original entrence to the entire battlefield in the back of your server's main base.  But don't worry, you can just mount up and be back over there in seconds.  Wait nevermind, no mounts, you just have to run in a straight line for 10 minutes and then once again just be one of 100 people running around in a big pack banging on doors and getting aoed on.

Squeets

I 100% agree with you this is exactly why I quit when I got to 80. 

why are people talking about GW2, which isn't a f2p MMO?

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]^^ Most of ur post was about WvW and getting gear. You forget that GW2 was always marketed as an MMO different to other MMOs (or for people who hate traditional MMOs).Squeets

WvW and getting cosmetic gear are all there is to do in GW2.

All of the explorable dungeons? Cosmetic gear.  Fractals? Cosmetic gear. WvW? Cosmetic gear.  Exploration? Cosmetic gear. That's it.

Structured PVP is even less about "gear" than the normal game since entering sPVP automatically makes you level 80, unlocks everything in the game on your character, and gives you a full set of best in slot gear... And if that gear isn't what your looking for, there are vendors that give away all the gear/upgrades/sigils/etc so you can mix/match other set bonuses and the likes... No currency, no nothing.  

Just join a game and earn glory... Which is spent on what? You guessed it, cosmetic gear.