Source engine= complete joke

Hmm, sounds like it's your PC who's the joker here.

Try running some virus and spyware scans or something, because I've never had problems like the ones you're describing.

Yeah dude, Source rocks. Everything works fine for me.

I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!darkfox101

Ye, When I'm trying to play Half life2I have to play on the lowest settings because else I get what you experience. Freezes with sound over and over.
I mean. Lowest settings on Half life2? Come on, With radeon x1600 series graphic card, 2gb ram, amd athlon 64 dual core +46 processor I should be able to handle highest settings.

I know it's not a good computer but it's "OK".
Same with CS:S, Can't play with too good settings there either.

Its true, one of the best, most flexible engines out there. Lock ups and freezes like you describe are def. PC related. Have you checked temps? maybe bringing down your settings a bit and seeing it stable? are you OCed at all?Copaseticbob

Ok, we have 2 people claiming they should be able to run it on highest settings because they've got a high-end pc, the problem is, however, is that that last part isn't exactly true.
Also strange that both these people are having problems, while others are not.....hmmmmmmrrrr...

this is dynamicdicks coworker, and he just got banned. I'm sorry you are having issues with the source engine, but calling it the worst engine,is in a sense flaming it, SHOULD entitle you a temp ban at LEAST. you got pissed, came on here talking **** about one of THE BEST engines EVER created, and get mad when you get flammed, what are you thinking??

Ok, we have 2 people claiming they should be able to run it on highest settings because they've got a high-end pc, the problem is, however, is that that last part isn't exactly true.
Also strange that both these people are having problems, while others are not.....hmmmmmmrrrr...

ShotGunBunny

sounds like a PEBCAK error to me.

source engine runs perfectly.if your computer is outdated, that's not Valve's problem.

and before you list other older games you can run just fine, remember: some games don't work with some older hardware.

Ok, we have 2 people claiming they should be able to run it on highest settings because they've got a high-end pc, the problem is, however, is that that last part isn't exactly true.
Also strange that both these people are having problems, while others are not.....hmmmmmmrrrr...

ShotGunBunny

I think something is indeed wrong with my computer.

I mean. I can't even play C&CTW smootly..

I have nice fps but if i play on highest settings, I get some kind of Memory error after like 5- 10 minutes. if i play on lowest i get the same error but after a while if there's lots of units on the same map.

Battlefield 2142 wont play smootly either, great fps and so but after a while some areas turn black and stuff.

Called Expert, ( I bought the computer from that company ) and asked them what it could be, The one I talked to told me I should try to re install the computer or just give it back so they could control it.
( I don't wanna re install it :( Too many anime I need to watch! :P )

this is dynamicdicks coworker, and he just got banned. I'm sorry you are having issues with the source engine, but calling it the worst engine,is in a sense flaming it, SHOULD entitle you a temp ban at LEAST. you got pissed, came on here talking **** about one of THE BEST engines EVER created, and get mad when you get flammed, what are you thinking??

edeekeos

yea source is probably one fo he BEST engines. Dont get mad just because you and the rest of the minority are having problems. Check your connections to the servers, drivers, blah blah. Im certain it's a problem on your end. But declaringthe enine sucks becase YOU cant run it? give me a break.

what settings are you running anyway

sounds like a PEBCAK error to me.

source engine runs perfectly.if your computer is outdated, that's not Valve's problem.

and before you list other older games you can run just fine, remember: some games don't work with some older hardware.

Xelioth1

It sounds like you may be having a hardware issue. to be more specific a heat issue. Check and make sure the fan on your videocard is working well. also make sure that your Ram is not overheating due to contact with power and other bus cables. Check to make sure your cpu's heatsink is free of dust and other things. 35C-45C is a good temp range. I also recommend swaping heatsink compound with artic silver brand. Just an Idea - good luck

Considering the high profile games that use that engine don't you think that if it was the engine you would have heard hords of people complain about these issues?duxup

What other high profile games besides HL2 use the source engine? Not being sarcastic, I think I only know of one and that would be Vampire:The Masquerade. I mean sure there are a bunch of mods, but not games.

It sounds like you may be having a hardware issue. to be more specific a heat issue. Check and make sure the fan on your videocard is working well. also make sure that your Ram is not overheating due to contact with power and other bus cables. Check to make sure your cpu's heatsink is free of dust and other things. 35C-45C is a good temp range. I also recommend swaping heatsink compound with artic silver brand. Just an Idea - good luck

dtroupe2

Yeah Source sux.. it won't run on my 600 dollar laptop with a crappy integrated vid card that shares my system RAM... But hey, It runs perfectly on my P4 3.6 8800 GTS... hell it ran perfectly on my old 6800.. :P Oh it ran well on my old PC as well a P4 2.0 with a Ti 4200 128mb AGP x4 Even, Farcry ran well..

darkfox has a legitimate complaint, - if you check steam's forums you'll see that a minority, but a pretty significant one, gets constant looping sound crashes with source built games. The pisser is that Valve has yet to address the group in any visible way, not even to say -

'we can't find the problem, but we'll keep looking, blah blah'

I had the problem myself, on a system with a fresh OS install andmeticulously configuredwindows XP. It was out of the blue, and totally frustrating, as i'd played source games w/ no problems on my previous OS incarnation, which was more battle weathered.

The problem was solved mysteriously, after a processor/memory/video card/motherboard/power supplyupgrade and another OS reinstall. Now source games run fine.Its not fair to say the problem is with the aflicted systems, because normal troubleshooting measures don't work.Gamers as a group know their systems pretty well, and this problemhas been persisting for avery long time, andno one has come up with adefinite conflict or cause yet.All i can say is good luck.

Source is THE best and most stable Direct X 9 engine I'e ever played a ton of games on.

Your PC must have issues.

Before flaming the game engine, you should check your PC first. Make sure it's not a hardware issue (sounds like it). Replace all components one by one to check if that's the case. After that make sure it's not a software issue. Reinstall windows and only install software (drivers and Steam, I guess) that is necessary to run Source games.

Once you've done all of that, you can call the engine a piece of crap. But until then, the problem is most likely on your end (your PC).

And before you say again: "But more people have the same problem." That doesn't mean anything.There are, for example, lots of people with overheating issues but that doesn't necessarily mean that the games they are playing are the cause of that. So first make sure your PC is working correctly and then you can whine about the game not working like it should.

I have a feeling that OP is a Valve hater.

I have AMD Athlon 3000+, 1gb ram and 4400MX 128mb gfx card. I can play Half-Life2 not even the lowest setting but bit better with absolutely no problems, including online!

I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!darkfox101

it's not just about the engine in itself, but the abilities of the people who use it

half life 2 is one of the most well optimised games i've ever played in my life, i used to get 70-120fps at 1600x1200 at full max settings on a 7800 - and the game is beautiful, even with HDR on, it'd still run at a solid 50fps

but then you've got bloodlines, that game was absurdly buggy - from what i've read, the entire engine was a little hit and miss when the license was sold to troika, but while valve fixed all the issues internally, they offered little or no support to troika and many of the flaws with the game were inherent source problems, not ineptitude or lack of time on troika's part - so i've read, anyway

then we've got dark messiah - i don't even need to bother listing the myriad bugs that game had, and even though arkane supposedly worked closely with valve (whatever that's supposed to mean), their use of the engine was poor on the whole

i think source is one of the best engines out there, even today - it simply belongs in the all time hall of fame... but even something great can be misused

I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!darkfox101

At what point did you plan on talking about the source engine?

It's the greatest engine in gaming right now.

People have to realize that HL2 came out in 2004, at that time his comp was top of the line. The problem definitely has something to do with the hardware or the operating system. Stuttering is either caused by the CPU bottlenecking, or the system running out of ram. Try running HL2 in windowed mode with the Task Manager open to monitor your cpu levels and ram levels, if your memory usage is over 1gb thats your problem.

And its certainly not his system. I have a nearly identical system, just with an x850xt PE and I run HL2 max 100+fps. I did a dual monitor stress test in CSS at 2560x1024 and got 60fps. I was even able to run HL2 on my old eMachines with 256mb ram and Intel 845G integrated graphics..

I ran HL-2 on a P4 3.0HT with 1GB RAM and an ATI 9800 Pro on medium high settigs. The improvement was minimal when I jumped to an Nvidia 7600.

If the problem was just introduced as neon_black suggests, then it is hardly fair to say the engine is the worst ever because a bug got was introduced in a patch three years after release.

I dont know about you but half life2/counter strike source has to be one of the most optimized game i've ever played. never ever had a problem with the source engine....must be some wierd error going on with your pc.

for example my pc can rape battle for middle earth 2 but for some reason i just cant play it on my pc (using vista) we are just unlucky you and me. (i've updated my pc and drivers still doesn't work)

I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!darkfox101

Sounds like your PC is the problem. What exactly, I dont know....but to pass the blame onto what is, in mine and many other people's opinions, one of the best game engines is just bad.

Source engine is:
-extremely well optimized
-beautiful; just look at those textures and face animations!
-upgradeable; theyve aded HDR lighting, not to mention the additions theyre making to Episode 2. This engine will be around for a long time, just like the Quake 2 engine.
-and very stable.

I mean, if modders can tweak the engine and do all this crap to it and it STILL doesnt crash, I dont see how it can be a bad engine in terms of stability.

I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!darkfox101

Did you ever stop to think that it might be a hardware issue? I've been playing Source games for years, never once had a major issue.

Worst engine in my opinion: Unreal.