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#51 Adam-117
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My pc? Check there forums, Im not the only one. What else would you DO? I ran Scans, Updated drivers, reinstalled it, tried a few tweaks... NOTHING worked. My pc is nothing Top of the line, but im sure it can handle CSS or day of defeat if it would run.. AMD 3500+ 1 gig of RAM 6800 256mb PCI-Edarkfox101

uhhh ya, your computer would have problems with it.......don't go off on the gaming engine when its totally fine and is actually one of the good ones out there. It's your PC that isn't great and is having issues with running the game. Its funny how if a game doesn't work people say "oh its the stupid game thats all buggy" when they have no clue about there computer and are pissed because they don't bother reading the requirments. And the people in other forums that have the same problem are probably 14 years old who act the same way.

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#52 marklar123
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if you've tried new drivers and checked for viruses and it's still locking up, i would start thinking it's hardware. how old is each component? whenever i hear of locking up or BSOD's and have ruled out drivers/software i immediately think of RAM or the PSU going bad.

first- get memtest and use it to check your RAM

if that's fine

second-if you have another power supply, try swapping it with the one in your computer.

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#53 darkfox101
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[QUOTE="darkfox101"]My pc? Check there forums, Im not the only one. What else would you DO? I ran Scans, Updated drivers, reinstalled it, tried a few tweaks... NOTHING worked. My pc is nothing Top of the line, but im sure it can handle CSS or day of defeat if it would run.. AMD 3500+ 1 gig of RAM 6800 256mb PCI-EAdam-117

uhhh ya, your computer would have problems with it.......don't go off on the gaming engine when its totally fine and is actually one of the good ones out there. It's your PC that isn't great and is having issues with running the game. Its funny how if a game doesn't work people say "oh its the stupid game thats all buggy" when they have no clue about there computer and are pissed because they don't bother reading the requirments. And the people in other forums that have the same problem are probably 14 years old who act the same way.

I didn't expect this thread to be alive still... And it can got he same for you.. If the game works on your computer I guess that makes it the greatest engine in the world for ya doesn't it? If it can't run on those specs you just proved my point that it is not scalable. Company of heroes runs on med-high fine and it looks great with my "ok" specs. Anyways, I think i fixed possibly fixed it, knocked done a few settings to low :|, although it locks up a little during the start.. maybe I got lucky.
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#54 ElectricNZ
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The Source engine IS scalabe, I maxed out Hl2 and CSS at 60 fps back in the day with my P4 3ghz and FX5700.

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#55 GodLovesDead
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[QUOTE="Adam-117"]

[QUOTE="darkfox101"]My pc? Check there forums, Im not the only one. What else would you DO? I ran Scans, Updated drivers, reinstalled it, tried a few tweaks... NOTHING worked. My pc is nothing Top of the line, but im sure it can handle CSS or day of defeat if it would run.. AMD 3500+ 1 gig of RAM 6800 256mb PCI-Edarkfox101

uhhh ya, your computer would have problems with it.......don't go off on the gaming engine when its totally fine and is actually one of the good ones out there. It's your PC that isn't great and is having issues with running the game. Its funny how if a game doesn't work people say "oh its the stupid game thats all buggy" when they have no clue about there computer and are pissed because they don't bother reading the requirments. And the people in other forums that have the same problem are probably 14 years old who act the same way.

I didn't expect this thread to be alive still... And it can got he same for you.. If the game works on your computer I guess that makes it the greatest engine in the world for ya doesn't it? If it can't run on those specs you just proved my point that it is not scalable. Company of heroes runs on med-high fine and it looks great with my "ok" specs. Anyways, I think i fixed possibly fixed it, knocked done a few settings to low :|, although it locks up a little during the start.. maybe I got lucky.

I had sound looping errors. I dusted out my PC and it's fixed. Other solutions include getting a new sound card, new RAM, defragmenting, ect.

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#56 koza_76
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[QUOTE="darkfox101"]I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!Selrath

Ye, When I'm trying to play Half life2I have to play on the lowest settings because else I get what you experience. Freezes with sound over and over.
I mean. Lowest settings on Half life2? Come on, With radeon x1600 series graphic card, 2gb ram, amd athlon 64 dual core +46 processor I should be able to handle highest settings.

I know it's not a good computer but it's "OK".
Same with CS:S, Can't play with too good settings there either.

I have basicaly the same setup you have with less processor power though and CS:S runs at about 100 fps on high settings, nots ultra high but high nonetheless.

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#57 the_bi99man
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Yeah, that's all problems with your computer dude. I, myself, and literally every single person I know who plays games on their PC has never had a single problem with any game in the source engine. Never. I even managed to play through Half-Life 2 the first time on my old computer because I didn't have this one yet, and it's got a 500mhz P3 processor, 384mb RAM (128 x3), and a fx5200 video card. I had to play on the lowest settings but it never crashed or glitched up. Your problems are with your computer, because Source is just about the closest thing the world has ever seen to a truly flawless engine.
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#58 Hewkii
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Ye, When I'm trying to play Half life2I have to play on the lowest settings because else I get what you experience. Freezes with sound over and over.
I mean. Lowest settings on Half life2? Come on, With radeon x1600 series graphic card, 2gb ram, amd athlon 64 dual core +46 processor I should be able to handle highest settings.

I know it's not a good computer but it's "OK".
Same with CS:S, Can't play with too good settings there either.

Selrath

I have a similar computer and can run it pretty much on high except for AA.

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[QUOTE="darkfox101"]I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!D9-THC

At what point did you plan on talking about the source engine?

It's the greatest engine in gaming right now.

I think the doom 3 engine is the best. Its so damn stable that engine and looks awesome. Source engine has giving me a few problems but nothing to serious.

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#60 GTZ2k3
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Are you using integrated audio from your motherboard, and is that intergrated audio the AC97 Realtek codec? If so, update the sound drivers for that. I had all kinds of sound looping and freezing with HL2 and Source, but after the upgrade Source runs buttery smooth at 30-40 FPS 1440x900 everthing maxed. And my system is only an AMD 64 3k+, Radeon x700 Pro, and 1 GB RAM.
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#61 Dr_Brocoli
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The source engine ran fine on my CELERON 2.2 Ghz, integrated gfx 1 gig ram ibm computer ! If it can do that im sure it is an amazing engine.
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#62 bl1ndz0r
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thats funny because my coworker and I are in agreement that we have yet to have a single problem....dont know what YOU are doing wrong...dont call it a joke because your computer suxDynamicDicks

i think we all agree the only joke is u and ur machine...

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#63 Forerunner-117
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Wow I've been having the exact same problems as the OP. When sending client info for a server, it'll just lock-up like i can move the mouse but can't click anything and so i have to restart my comp. sometimes it'll get past that but then when the team select window appears it'll just like freeze and start looping the first sound made and so i have to restart. but it's interesting cuz i noticed that this occurs less or not at all when i turn on the computer and start playing CSS immediately not doing anything else before that. it occurs most when the comp has been on for awhile already and then i decide to play CSS. but i mean, all the settings are at where the game recommends they be for my comp so idk.
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#64 blitzkrieg13
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This is a real problem. It appears in the valve's support for the game. I had the problem and replaced the g-card. Problem gone, but it seems like it may be coming back. Strange. With the last card it got worse progressively.
We'll see.
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#65 error11
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funny...your sig says that youv'e played 5 hours of CS:S this week..hmmm?
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#66 waza000
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dude the source engine is really really great .... if your pc sucks, don't blame the wrong people

you can only blame the problem wich is sitting a feet away from the screen

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#67 TheWalrusKing
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I have a 3 year old PC, bought summer of 04, the card is from the fall, amonth before HL2 was released. Its an AMD 2500+ XP Barton, a decent mobo, a 6800gt 256 card. 1 gig of basic ram, winxp, and yet I CAN play every setting at High, INCLUDING HDR, and yet I also can play the Crysis Beta, mostly at low, a couple things set to medium,(not well of course but playable) I think alot of time its the way the pc is running i guess with my performance im running REALLY well.
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#68 inyourface_12
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dude source engine=never locks up./ i bet you have vista dont u?
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#69 Adam-117
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[QUOTE="Adam-117"]

[QUOTE="darkfox101"]My pc? Check there forums, Im not the only one. What else would you DO? I ran Scans, Updated drivers, reinstalled it, tried a few tweaks... NOTHING worked. My pc is nothing Top of the line, but im sure it can handle CSS or day of defeat if it would run.. AMD 3500+ 1 gig of RAM 6800 256mb PCI-Edarkfox101

uhhh ya, your computer would have problems with it.......don't go off on the gaming engine when its totally fine and is actually one of the good ones out there. It's your PC that isn't great and is having issues with running the game. Its funny how if a game doesn't work people say "oh its the stupid game thats all buggy" when they have no clue about there computer and are pissed because they don't bother reading the requirments. And the people in other forums that have the same problem are probably 14 years old who act the same way.

I didn't expect this thread to be alive still... And it can got he same for you.. If the game works on your computer I guess that makes it the greatest engine in the world for ya doesn't it? If it can't run on those specs you just proved my point that it is not scalable. Company of heroes runs on med-high fine and it looks great with my "ok" specs. Anyways, I think i fixed possibly fixed it, knocked done a few settings to low :|, although it locks up a little during the start.. maybe I got lucky.

All im tryin to say is that if you have a problem with a game that has a great engine, haswon game awards, and was highly rated, don't make a thread saying its a complete joke just because you can't run it. The only thing to call a joke is your computer hardware and your lack of knowledge about it.

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#70 Forerunner-117
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i have xp and the problems stated above ^^^^
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#71 SonKev
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I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!darkfox101

Yeah because it locking up makes it automatically the source engine, Everyone I know that has CSS HL2 (about 20 people) DONT HAVE LOCK UPS EVER.

You running it in a geforce 4 or somthing??? LOL Well, its not the engine in short, its you.

The End.

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#72 Citan76
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Well grats on not being the only one but it's fine for me. So whatever. I guess it's cool if you find that you need to vent anger in the forum but most people I have seen have not had problems.
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#73 EXLINK
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Wow...I find the Source engine to be one of the best engines created. It's been 3 years since it made its first debut and it still looks really good compared to other engines (not as good as CryEngine 2 or UE3). Have you ever played Half-Life 2 with Cinematic Mod v4.0? The game looks as good as many 2007 games and people can max it out and still get 80 FPS + with atleast a 7900. Not to mention how optimized this game is; when it came out I maxed it out with my 6800GT. I honestly can't see how someone cannot like this engine.
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#74 Snubnose38spl
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its not the source engine, its your computer or maybe steam program.
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#75 fireandcloud
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try lowering your visual settings. it happens to me when i try to crank up the visuals, and it's easily fixed by settling for lesser graphics (but better gameplay, which is what matters most).
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#76 DragonfireXZ95
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I had a problem like this in Team Fortress 2 beta, The computer didn't crash but it did freeze and loop the audio at random times. Now I have a E6600, 2 gigs ddr2 800, 640 mb 8800 GTS, amongst other things. BUT I also have Realtek onboard sound. So I tried using the advanced start up option and put in -nosound. With no sound Team Fortress 2 runs at 75 fps with everything on high and no locking up whatsoever. The onboard audio was the problem. So now I just play it with no sound and put on some music or something :). It was really annoying though because none of my other source games do this, only TF2(and it might be because it's a beta).
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#77 alt_version
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Never had a problem...well I hate Steam on occasion, maybe that's your problem instead of the actual engine. Once in a while Steam has a hiccup for me but that is all I've ever experienced. I have CS:S, HL:S, HL2, HL2 EP1, HL2 LC, DOD:S, TF2 (BETA), and even Dark Messiah and that game wasn't even that good but it still ran fine on my machine. I was also playing most of these games a machine way below yours and it still worked like a charm, so I really don't know what the issue is, but I don't think it's the engine my friend.
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#78 blackcee
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This is for the first few post or so:

Source Engine runs great,.. ppl often forget to update their sound drivers.

Especially w/onboard sound. Check your motherboard and update yo drivers.

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#79 ahmedkandil
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lol. source is one of the most scaleable engines ever. i can run the game with the cevo fps config and get a constant flow of 60fps. my laptop sucks. its a radeon xpress 200m (256mb) and a 1.7ghz celeronM...
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#80 metroid_mario
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Same problem here It locks up for 2-3 second when some one is talking on mic usually this happens atleast 2-3 times every map.

I have Q6600 Cpu

2 gig ram

1950XT

I have GA P35 DS3R mother board i think the problem is causeing of the onboard audio?

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#81 Cdscottie
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[QUOTE="Xelioth1"]

sounds like a PEBCAK error to me.

source engine runs perfectly.if your computer is outdated, that's not Valve's problem.

and before you list other older games you can run just fine, remember: some games don't work with some older hardware.

darkfox101

Whats PEBAK? If source is so scalable it would be able to run on my specs at least, thus it is not very scalable and only runs on 7 series, 2 gigs of RAM and at least a 4000+ processor smoothly I guess... D:

PEBCAK stands for "Problem encountered between chair and keyboard" Personally, I prefer telling people that it is an I D 10 T error.

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#82 darkfox101
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thanks for all the flame posts im getting from stating my opinion on an engine :|, its harsh opinion for many people here, just need to learn some people don't agree with you!! Thanks for the help from other plp :), ill dust it out, i heard changing the RAM and putting them into different slots did something.. soo ill try that, The 5 hrs of CSS, is me leaving it at menu since i gave up and left the comp on
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#83 Hate_Squad
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Source is one of the best game ebgines out there,it runs in a huge range of pc's from high-end to low-beginning:P.The game are literally flowing and never never crash,freeze or slow down
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#84 Kapitan_eXtreme
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Source is a brilliant engine: stable, versatile and accessable, not to mention having the ability to run excellent graphics, sound, AI and physics. Admittedly, on some PC's it does have issues. I expreience the same random crashes with all Source powered games (except, randomly enough, the Pirates, Vikings and Knights II mod) on my mid-range desktop (which nevertheless runs HL2 on max-settings easily), but on my laptop it runs perfectly. I'm just hoping valve will one day work out what kind of conflict causes the issue - im pretty sure its something to do with caching, which would put it at a RAM or motherboard issue.
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#85 peacebringer
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I have never experienced so many lock ups and freezes... Its just not even playable. It freezes during loading times, when i join the server, or after i take a few steps and it freezes with looping sounds over and over.. forcing me to restart. I give up, i updated everything, ran scans etc. check the forums, Im not alone and it is yet to be solved, officially a horrible engine!darkfox101
has to be your PC or you must have put a setting on you can't support, cause i have had $300 Pc's play HL2 decent with no hitches just graphically they weren't good.
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#86 weirjf
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Source is a brilliant engine: stable, versatile and accessable, not to mention having the ability to run excellent graphics, sound, AI and physics. Admittedly, on some PC's it does have issues. I expreience the same random crashes with all Source powered games (except, randomly enough, the Pirates, Vikings and Knights II mod) on my mid-range desktop (which nevertheless runs HL2 on max-settings easily), but on my laptop it runs perfectly. I'm just hoping valve will one day work out what kind of conflict causes the issue - im pretty sure its something to do with caching, which would put it at a RAM or motherboard issue.Kapitan_eXtreme

Uh.. I love HL2 and Source, but it is not the most stable engine out there by a long shot. It is quite finicky with new drivers and it is the only engine I have run that has a list of 50 things that could be the problem if you have a crashing issue.

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#87 unclefrag_basic
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I've personally never had a problem with Source, every game I have with it runs fantastically.

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#88 peacebringer
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[QUOTE="Kapitan_eXtreme"]Source is a brilliant engine: stable, versatile and accessable, not to mention having the ability to run excellent graphics, sound, AI and physics. Admittedly, on some PC's it does have issues. I expreience the same random crashes with all Source powered games (except, randomly enough, the Pirates, Vikings and Knights II mod) on my mid-range desktop (which nevertheless runs HL2 on max-settings easily), but on my laptop it runs perfectly. I'm just hoping valve will one day work out what kind of conflict causes the issue - im pretty sure its something to do with caching, which would put it at a RAM or motherboard issue.weirjf

Uh.. I love HL2 and Source, but it is not the most stable engine out there by a long shot. It is quite finicky with new drivers and it is the only engine I have run that has a list of 50 things that could be the problem if you have a crashing issue.

Once again it must be your PC or you have a setting on your PC/videocard/sound card don't support. like i have run HL2 on $300 PC's/ Source is one of the best and refined Engines around. Someone saying 2to3 years after source came out is kinda suspisious. This game runs like a dream on weak PC's if you havd DDR or changed the defaults then thats your problem. you should use the default settings cause thats all your PC can handle. the only thing you can technically change is the res. If you have a weak PC thats not the source engines fault.
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#89 peacebringer
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Same problem here It locks up for 2-3 second when some one is talking on mic usually this happens atleast 2-3 times every map.

I have Q6600 Cpu

2 gig ram

1950XT

I have GA P35 DS3R mother board i think the problem is causeing of the onboard audio?

metroid_mario
Def the onboard audio, what i do when i have onboard audio is lower the setting for sound, sounds not that Important for me on a game so i never buy a sound card, i would lower those settings to the bare minium and it still sounds good.
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#90 peacebringer
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Oh yeah also if your not using Nvidia thats a huge differance IMO ATI usally has problems even for games that are made on it, cause they still refine the games for Nvidia. ATI is horrible IMO, i know a bunch of players who played wow and every 30 min there PC turned off and it was a ATI problem. i always buy Nvidia.
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#91 doctor_kaz
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I like the Source engine okay, but that annoying sound looping bug that still wasn't fixed for Episode 1 is really damn annoying!
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#92 bl1ndz0r
Member since 2006 • 374 Posts

thanks for all the flame posts im getting from stating my opinion on an engine :|, its harsh opinion for many people here, just need to learn some people don't agree with you!! Thanks for the help from other plp :), ill dust it out, i heard changing the RAM and putting them into different slots did something.. soo ill try that, The 5 hrs of CSS, is me leaving it at menu since i gave up and left the comp ondarkfox101

Harsh opinion? ur saying one of the best engines out there used in a TON of games is a complete joke

What did u expect? a cookie?

From all the replies the problem is OBVIOUSLY on your side... either ur pc SUCKS or the user sucks...

Everybody has their opinion but u gotta be objective in life, saying source engine is a complete joke is like saying Micheael Jordan was a complete joke in basketball it just isnt true...

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#93 PHeMoX
Member since 2004 • 137 Posts

Freezes and lock-ups? Never ever had them, not even with the very first source engine game I owned (Vampire: The Masquerade :Bloodlines). I owned a ATI9600 and a bit later ATIX1600XT back then, so it must be something different with your system.

Did you try reinstalling both the games and windows? Did you update your drivers? Have the latest DirectX? Etc. ... Don't go rambling about how an engine sucks when the problem is more likely to be with your PC. And no, I'm not pro Valve or anything, I do however have never ran into any trouble with the Source engine.

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#94 Ric_SlayeR
Member since 2007 • 252 Posts

Looks like your PC cant handle the source engine try lowering the graphics or if that doesnt work try thinking about buying a new PC or try upgrading your current one. :P

My PC sucks too!

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#95 metroid_mario
Member since 2005 • 1913 Posts

Same problem here It locks up for 2-3 second when some one is talking on mic usually this happens atleast 2-3 times every map.

I have Q6600 Cpu

2 gig ram

1950XT

I have GA P35 DS3R mother board i think the problem is causeing of the onboard audio?

metroid_mario
I am pretty sure my computer can handle this game I have exact same problem......... This happend when some one usually talkin on the microphone.
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#96 Alkpaz
Member since 2005 • 2073 Posts
[QUOTE="metroid_mario"]

Same problem here It locks up for 2-3 second when some one is talking on mic usually this happens atleast 2-3 times every map.

I have Q6600 Cpu

2 gig ram

1950XT

I have GA P35 DS3R mother board i think the problem is causeing of the onboard audio?

metroid_mario

I am pretty sure my computer can handle this game I have exact same problem......... This happend when some one usually talkin on the microphone.

That is called "lagg"... either turn off the mic option completely or deal with it.. btw, what connection are you using? Cable or DSL?

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#97 metroid_mario
Member since 2005 • 1913 Posts
[QUOTE="metroid_mario"][QUOTE="metroid_mario"]

Same problem here It locks up for 2-3 second when some one is talking on mic usually this happens atleast 2-3 times every map.

I have Q6600 Cpu

2 gig ram

1950XT

I have GA P35 DS3R mother board i think the problem is causeing of the onboard audio?

Alkpaz

I am pretty sure my computer can handle this game I have exact same problem......... This happend when some one usually talkin on the microphone.

That is called "lagg"... either turn off the mic option completely or deal with it.. btw, what connection are you using? Cable or DSL?

I haveverizon fios 5mb connectionm I know its not lag issue, screen freeze for 3-4 second and the same sound theme sound keep repeating over and over for 3-4 second while the screen is forzen.
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#98 Luminouslight
Member since 2007 • 6397 Posts

MY old Pt4 2.2, RADEON 9600, 1 gig of ram ran it just fine...

The engine is actually quite optimized in my opinion, unlike some games. Neverwinter Nights 2,

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#99 animateria
Member since 2006 • 620 Posts
I've never had any issues with Source Engine games.... They work fine...
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#100 Baron_14
Member since 2007 • 1771 Posts

That suck.

Because my friend play the game with P4 2ghz 512 ram and ati radeon 9950