S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat terrible?

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#151 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

Hmm, looks like a photot of an industrial area, i cant see anything artistic, like:

dos4gw82

Photos of industrial areas can be and often are art.

Yup, there are tons of industrial art pictures. Stalker games seem more like great art direction/design instead of on a technical level of graphics.

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#152 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Rawtheory333"]

Anyone else playin on veteran difficulty and finding that the chimera absolutely RAPES you when you encounter them? I've been forced to drop the difficulty on encounter just to survive.

Rawtheory333

I use the knife against the larger mutants. It kills them quickly and saves a lot of ammo!

Really? I'll have to give that a shot. I figured I'd just be signing my own death certificate doing that....

well...I never played it on veteran difficulty,but I used my knife against Pseudogiant, Burers, and Chimera. The Burer have very limited attack up close, and it can't pull you knife out of you hands(unlike your other weapons.). I circle around Pseudogiants with my knife, it takes a bit to kill them, but its much better then wasting tons of ammo on them. I run up to Chimeras and simply knife them 3-4 times and BOOM they are dead:).
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#153 psn8214
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This game is far from terrible. In fact, it is the exact opposite. Its all I have been playing of late.

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#154 Rawtheory333
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well...I never played it on veteran difficulty,but I used my knife against Pseudogiant, Burers, and Chimera. The Burer have very limited attack up close, and it can't pull you knife out of you hands(unlike your other weapons.). I circle around Pseudogiants with my knife, it takes a bit to kill them, but its much better then wasting tons of ammo on them. I run up to Chimeras and simply knife them 3-4 times and BOOM they are dead:).JangoWuzHere

Well try that on veteran and get back ta me ;) I'd be surprised if it still worked.

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#155 Rawtheory333
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This game is far from terrible. In fact, it is the exact opposite. Its all I have been playing of late.

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#156 gamer082009
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First time playing a STALKER game and boy is this series over-hyped. The game is BORING..the graphics are indeed horrible and it almost seems like a PS2 type of game.
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#157 millerlight89
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First time playing a STALKER game and boy is this series over-hyped. The game is BORING..the graphics are indeed horrible and it almost seems like a PS2 type of game.gamer082009
First off you can't judge the entire series by playing one game from it. Also if you find it boring then that is unfortunate, because it is far from boring. As for the graphics looking like a PS2 type of game......you must really have to turn down the settings. It looks fantastic on my system.
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#158 Rawtheory333
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First time playing a STALKER game and boy is this series over-hyped. The game is BORING..the graphics are indeed horrible and it almost seems like a PS2 type of game.gamer082009

Well I guess it ain't for ya then. I think its the best PC SP game on the market.

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#159 dakan45
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First time playing a STALKER game and boy is this series over-hyped. The game is BORING..the graphics are indeed horrible and it almost seems like a PS2 type of game.gamer082009
Well all stalker games are slow, therefore may feel kinda borring, but the graphics are not ps2 quality, they are pretty dated though, not bad, kinda dated.
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#160 SF_KiLLaMaN
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[QUOTE="gamer082009"]First time playing a STALKER game and boy is this series over-hyped. The game is BORING..the graphics are indeed horrible and it almost seems like a PS2 type of game.dakan45
Well all stalker games are slow, therefore may feel kinda borring, but the graphics are not ps2 quality, they are pretty dated though, not bad, kinda dated.

says the guy who plays it in dx9.
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#161 dos4gw82
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="gamer082009"]First time playing a STALKER game and boy is this series over-hyped. The game is BORING..the graphics are indeed horrible and it almost seems like a PS2 type of game.SF_KiLLaMaN
Well all stalker games are slow, therefore may feel kinda borring, but the graphics are not ps2 quality, they are pretty dated though, not bad, kinda dated.

says the guy who plays it in dx9.

Agreed. These last two Stalker games have been the only games to really make good use of DX10 features. I positively love it when it rains in those game; the dynamic wet surfaces make it feel as though you could smell the mud. :D

I can't speak for what the game looks like in DX 11, however.

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#162 Koltr0nTheGreat
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Why oh why this endless discussion about graphics, anyway?

Seriously, can't you people see beyond that? There is more to a game than graphics! Graphics are secondary. Accessory.

It seems to me that you are virtually incapable of immersing yourselves in the experience, in a game's world...

No offense intended, but you look more like game testers than gamers... :|

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Uhm.. Correct me if I am wrong, but the year is 2010, right? Meaning, that a new standard has been set in the gaming industry, correct? If this weren't correct then no publishers, or game designers would focus on the matter all that seriously and every game would look like STALKER. The majority of gamers gaming today would like to see a more realistic approach to their gaming experience. It immerses the player into the game more than any simple "Lighting" trick can do. In order for a number 1 gaming experience to be handed you will need2 things. Great graphics in this day and age, a vast in depth story that makes keep coming back. It's not the 80's or 90's anymore, gamers expectations have risen as well as publisher expectations. If you're wanting a vast majority of gamers to regard your game on such a high level you'll need to put more effort into your graphic engine, and not hand us in some piss poor excuse. It's pathetic, and almost unamerican. Who wants to pay for this ****

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#163 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="gamer082009"]First time playing a STALKER game and boy is this series over-hyped. The game is BORING..the graphics are indeed horrible and it almost seems like a PS2 type of game.SF_KiLLaMaN
Well all stalker games are slow, therefore may feel kinda borring, but the graphics are not ps2 quality, they are pretty dated though, not bad, kinda dated.

says the guy who plays it in dx9.

Honestly that not a valid statement, there are truckloads of games outhere that dont need dx10 to look good. So yeah if a game needs dx10 to show graphics, its clear that the developers did not make good enough graphics on dx9 and they need dx10 to show off!!
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#164 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Lithos_"]

Why oh why this endless discussion about graphics, anyway?

Seriously, can't you people see beyond that? There is more to a game than graphics! Graphics are secondary. Accessory.

It seems to me that you are virtually incapable of immersing yourselves in the experience, in a game's world...

No offense intended, but you look more like game testers than gamers... :|

Koltr0nTheGreat

Uhm.. Correct me if I am wrong, but the year is 2010, right? Meaning, that a new standard has been set in the gaming industry, correct? If this weren't correct then no publishers, or game designers would focus on the matter all that seriously and every game would look like STALKER. The majority of gamers gaming today would like to see a more realistic approach to their gaming experience. It immerses the player into the game more than any simple "Lighting" trick can do. In order for a number 1 gaming experience to be handed you will need2 things. Great graphics in this day and age, a vast in depth story that makes keep coming back. It's not the 80's or 90's anymore, gamers expectations have risen as well as publisher expectations. If you're wanting a vast majority of gamers to regard your game on such a high level you'll need to put more effort into your graphic engine, and not hand us in some piss poor excuse. It's pathetic, and almost unamerican. Who wants to pay for this ****

Thats what i am talking about, as new products come out, the graphics are improved rapidly, Its anti-quality factor to put dated graphics on your product. It feels like the game is old and not a new product.
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#165 dos4gw82
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Honestly that not a valid statement, there are truckloads of games outhere that dont need dx10 to look good. So yeah if a game needs dx10 to show graphics, its clear that the developers did not make good enough graphics on dx9 and they need dx10 to show off!!dakan45

There are also truckloads of games that did use DX9 and didn't look good. And the result of CoP and CS's use of DX10 is better atmosphere; it isn't about showing off. Listen to yourself: "its clear that the developers did not make good enough graphics on dx9." By what standard are the graphics in these games "not good enough?" Why should we listen to you when you obviously do not like the game at all?

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#166 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"] Honestly that not a valid statement, there are truckloads of games outhere that dont need dx10 to look good. So yeah if a game needs dx10 to show graphics, its clear that the developers did not make good enough graphics on dx9 and they need dx10 to show off!!dos4gw82

There are also truckloads of games that did use DX9 and didn't look good. And the result of CoP and CS's use of DX10 is better atmosphere; it isn't about showing off. Listen to yourself: "its clear that the developers did not make good enough graphics on dx9." By what standard are the graphics in these games "not good enough?" Why should we listen to you when you obviously do not like the game at all?

What i am saying is that there is no need for dx10 and dx11 to create good graphics. Its just stalker that pushed the engine to its limits and used dx10 to add some features, which dont really make much of a diffirence alsp some things like wet surfaces could be dont in dx9 as shown with timeshift. Now that i showed you how useless gsc is on graphics, let me inform you that i like the game, i just dont like its dated graphics at all.
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#167 Rawtheory333
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If you're wanting a vast majority of gamers to regard your game on such a high level you'll need to put more effort into your graphic engine, and not hand us in some piss poor excuse. It's pathetic, and almost unamerican. Who wants to pay for this ****

Koltr0nTheGreat

Lol. The devs are Ukrainian. :roll:You got an opinion. One that I think sucks but everyones entitled to one, kind of like buttholes.

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#168 Koltr0nTheGreat
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I don't care which nationality the game designers are. Why would I? My "Unamerican" comment was stating that most Americans(and I'm not wrong) expect a better graphic engine than STALKER can offer. Outdated graphics are no longer appreciated by majority. This isn't an opinion, it's undeniable factual evidence based on the struggle to make games look so much better, and the popularity of computer gaming, and console gaming. Why do you think STALKER is not on consoles?

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#169 dos4gw82
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Now that i showed you how useless gsc is on graphics, let me inform you that i like the game, i just dont like its dated graphics at all.dakan45

Could have fooled me. In the past, when reffering to Stalker games, you've complained that you didn't like the gunplay, how often you have to heal yourself, how quickly you go through supplies, how radiation was handled, the effectiveness of armor, how many shots it takes to take down enemies, and the lack of realism. Now you've said that this latest game is "too slow" and the graphics don't meet your expectations. These are all small concerns, but you once claimed that the reason you didn't like Half Life 2 (or didn't think it was great, whatever) was because of the sum of all the little things you found wrong with it.

The point is, you claim to like many games, but you spend way more time telling everyone about what you didn't like about them than what you did. Do you really want to go through life making a whole bunch of little bickerings about everything instead of enjoying them for what they are?

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#170 badtaker
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i just dont like its dated graphics at all.dakan45
lol are you going to play SC2 and Diablo 3. """useless gsc"" i think blizzard is more useless than gsc on graphics
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#171 ekultus
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Get out of here Stalker!

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ahahah well said stalker :D

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#172 da_bomb123
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I don't care which nationality the game designers are. Why would I? My "Unamerican" comment was stating that most Americans(and I'm not wrong) expect a better graphic engine than STALKER can offer. Outdated graphics are no longer appreciated by majority. This isn't an opinion, it's undeniable factual evidence based on the struggle to make games look so much better, and the popularity of computer gaming, and console gaming. Why do you think STALKER is not on consoles?

Koltr0nTheGreat

Fortunately, "most Americans" are not STALKER's target market.

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#173 Solar-X
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Well have to admit the series is kind of stagnant atm. Stalker SOC was good. But these sequels I can not really get into them as much because they're just not innovative. Feels too much like you're re-treading old ground but just in a different setting. I would like to see GSC do something different. They obviously got the skills but I don't know if they have the resources. But if they did something similar to lets Say the first few Resident Evils, but in first person with open environments and a new engine. I think they have the talent to do something like that and I it would probably be a bigger success than the Stalker series.

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#174 devious742
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I don't care which nationality the game designers are. Why would I? My "Unamerican" comment was stating that most Americans(and I'm not wrong) expect a better graphic engine than STALKER can offer. Outdated graphics are no longer appreciated by majority. This isn't an opinion, it's undeniable factual evidence based on the struggle to make games look so much better, and the popularity of computer gaming, and console gaming. Why do you think STALKER is not on consoles?

Koltr0nTheGreat

yes.. you are wrong.. I for one love everything about stalker..yes..even the graphics...heck I would say that the graphics makes this game.. be it in a technical level or artistic...or both!! :o there's a reason this series is hailed as the most atmospheric franchise...the game isn't on consoles because they focus on the pc platform..they have said this many times..that after CoP... they might port it..only the first stalker..that CoP will be exclusive btw I'm american :P

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#175 Crucifier
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lol @ stalker graphics being bad. they are good on their own right if you max it out, they are great with mods. the game isnt so much about character development as it is atmosphere, which it does better than any other game out there. im sorry that you are unable to see that
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#176 chandu83
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lol @ stalker graphics being bad. they are good on their own right if you max it out, they are great with mods. the game isnt so much about character development as it is atmosphere, which it does better than any other game out there. im sorry that you are unable to see thatCrucifier
I agree with this.
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#177 Lithos_
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[QUOTE="Lithos_"]

Why oh why this endless discussion about graphics, anyway?

Seriously, can't you people see beyond that? There is more to a game than graphics! Graphics are secondary. Accessory.

It seems to me that you are virtually incapable of immersing yourselves in the experience, in a game's world...

No offense intended, but you look more like game testers than gamers... :|

Koltr0nTheGreat

Uhm.. Correct me if I am wrong, but the year is 2010, right? Meaning, that a new standard has been set in the gaming industry, correct? If this weren't correct then no publishers, or game designers would focus on the matter all that seriously and every game would look like STALKER. The majority of gamers gaming today would like to see a more realistic approach to their gaming experience. It immerses the player into the game more than any simple "Lighting" trick can do. In order for a number 1 gaming experience to be handed you will need2 things. Great graphics in this day and age, a vast in depth story that makes keep coming back. It's not the 80's or 90's anymore, gamers expectations have risen as well as publisher expectations. If you're wanting a vast majority of gamers to regard your game on such a high level you'll need to put more effort into your graphic engine, and not hand us in some piss poor excuse. It's pathetic, and almost unamerican. Who wants to pay for this ****

Almost unamerican? Oh spare me comments like that, my sides hurt from laughing!

What I was saying, and is indeed quite obvious, is that the overwhelming majority is blinkered, can't see 2 inches past their noses (can you?). They just can't figure out that there is more to a game than graphics, like I said. And they just neglect everything else (and therefore have a very, VERY poor gaming experience).

Nowadays the rule is (devs speaking): "let's improve everything related to graphics! All our efforts must be concentrated on that if we are to survive in this market war! Everything else is secondary, let's pretend there is a story behind this game: after all, the so-called gamers don't care and they will swallow anything we throw at them".

And you know what? They are right. The expectations haven't risen: they have lowered! Greatly! And with them, the standards.

I miss the days where the lack of graphics technology was compensated by great and sincere efforts towards the overall quality of the titles.

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#178 xxstalker24xx
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Honestly whoever thinks this is "the best looking game outhere" has no opinion on graphics and should not make any complains about graphics at all!

Point is that those graphics are too dated for 2010!!

dakan45

For what the game is and has its extremely good and it sets the atmosphere rly well.

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#179 jimmyjammer69
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:lol: I sense major trolling in this thread.

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#180 Daytona_178
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Just to throw in my two cents as iam currently downloading it on Steam.

The graphics do look nice in my opinion although the graphics engine certainly is Very badly optimized. I mean if you look at how much power you need to truly max Call of Pripyat you could happily run Crysis Warhead on Ultra settings.......nuff said i think!

Anyway i only played the first Stalker game for a few hours but i did really enjoy it, iam sure i will enjoy this one even more. Also iam hoping this game will give me the motivation to finally upgrade my ageing 8800GT :D

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#181 haberman13
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CoP rocks - but not for its graphics (though they do very well at creating the atmosphere of that area). I was a little disappointed when I first fired it up, some areas are incredible, some are lackluster.

The game itself is amazing though.

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#182 SF_KiLLaMaN
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Just to throw in my two cents as iam currently downloading it on Steam.

The graphics do look nice in my opinion although the graphics engine certainly is Very badly optimized. I mean if you look at how much power you need to truly max Call of Pripyat you could happily run Crysis Warhead on Ultra settings.......nuff said i think!

Anyway i only played the first Stalker game for a few hours but i did really enjoy it, iam sure i will enjoy this one even more. Also iam hoping this game will give me the motivation to finally upgrade my ageing 8800GT :D

Daytona_178
I'm playing Call of Pripyat maxed out on DX10 when I could only play high on Crysis. Call of Pripyat is much better optimized than the last two installments.
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#183 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

Just to throw in my two cents as iam currently downloading it on Steam.

The graphics do look nice in my opinion although the graphics engine certainly is Very badly optimized. I mean if you look at how much power you need to truly max Call of Pripyat you could happily run Crysis Warhead on Ultra settings.......nuff said i think!

Anyway i only played the first Stalker game for a few hours but i did really enjoy it, iam sure i will enjoy this one even more. Also iam hoping this game will give me the motivation to finally upgrade my ageing 8800GT :D

SF_KiLLaMaN
I'm playing Call of Pripyat maxed out on DX10 when I could only play high on Crysis. Call of Pripyat is much better optimized than the last two installments.

What are your specs? Iam just going by the Benchmarking tool they released.
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#184 Baranga
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="Daytona_178"]

Just to throw in my two cents as iam currently downloading it on Steam.

The graphics do look nice in my opinion although the graphics engine certainly is Very badly optimized. I mean if you look at how much power you need to truly max Call of Pripyat you could happily run Crysis Warhead on Ultra settings.......nuff said i think!

Anyway i only played the first Stalker game for a few hours but i did really enjoy it, iam sure i will enjoy this one even more. Also iam hoping this game will give me the motivation to finally upgrade my ageing 8800GT :D

Daytona_178

I'm playing Call of Pripyat maxed out on DX10 when I could only play high on Crysis. Call of Pripyat is much better optimized than the last two installments.

What are your specs? Iam just going by the Benchmarking tool they released.

I have an identical system to yours, except that my GPU is a 9800GT (same **** anyway) and my CPU is running at stock speed. 1280x1024, all maxed, no AA - it runs below 30 fps only at sunrise, and that's a very slight drop, and it lags a bit when the rain starts while it loads the wet surfaces. It's much better optimized than the other two games, while the world is bigger and prettier.

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#185 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] I'm playing Call of Pripyat maxed out on DX10 when I could only play high on Crysis. Call of Pripyat is much better optimized than the last two installments. Baranga

What are your specs? Iam just going by the Benchmarking tool they released.

I have an identical system to yours, except that my GPU is a 9800GT (same **** anyway) and my CPU is running at stock speed. 1280x1024, all maxed, no AA - it runs below 30 fps only at sunrise, and that's a very slight drop, and it lags a bit when the rain starts while it loads the wet surfaces. It's much better optimized than the other two games, while the world is bigger and prettier.

Thats cool as iam only gaming at 1440x900 :) I guess the benchmark tool isnt a true representation of how taxing the game is then.