Starcraft 2 is and Arcade RTS.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

The better term you should have used is simplistic gameplay/visuals. Its got nothing on company of heroes.

lordlors

Its not balanced, but its far from a luck game... Yes there is alot more luck in the equasion then in other RTSs, but thats what I like. In Starcraft, if you throw 20 Terran Marines vs 25 Terran Marines, without having both players micromanaging to hell, there is a very large probabilty that the 25 marines would defeat the 20 marines. In company of heroes you can do that, but theres always the chance that one squad performs worse then the others so evreything just collapses. In CoH you have to realy think it trough if you wanna attack, because you need a significant upper hand to win, not just a small one, and a failed attack is preaty much suicide. chaplainDMK

Yes, that's why it doesn't make sense and will always be frowned upon from the competitive scene.

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]Its not balanced, but its far from a luck game... Yes there is alot more luck in the equasion then in other RTSs, but thats what I like. In Starcraft, if you throw 20 Terran Marines vs 25 Terran Marines, without having both players micromanaging to hell, there is a very large probabilty that the 25 marines would defeat the 20 marines. In company of heroes you can do that, but theres always the chance that one squad performs worse then the others so evreything just collapses. In CoH you have to realy think it trough if you wanna attack, because you need a significant upper hand to win, not just a small one, and a failed attack is preaty much suicide. Mograine

Yes, that's why it doesn't make sense and will always be frowned upon from the competitive scene.

It makes perfect sense, Mograine, but competitive players prefer assuredness and a concrete playstyle. I call it not taking risks, but others call it sticking to the basics or what have you. Both games are enjoyable, but SCII is designed for quick, attack-oriented gameplay and that clashes heavily with the semi-randomized approach of CoH. Both are good, they're just on opposite ends of the spectrum and I don't see how the can actually be compared.

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]Its not balanced, but its far from a luck game... Yes there is alot more luck in the equasion then in other RTSs, but thats what I like. In Starcraft, if you throw 20 Terran Marines vs 25 Terran Marines, without having both players micromanaging to hell, there is a very large probabilty that the 25 marines would defeat the 20 marines. In company of heroes you can do that, but theres always the chance that one squad performs worse then the others so evreything just collapses. In CoH you have to realy think it trough if you wanna attack, because you need a significant upper hand to win, not just a small one, and a failed attack is preaty much suicide. Mograine

Yes, that's why it doesn't make sense and will always be frowned upon from the competitive scene.

Don't kid yourself that never stopped super smash brother melee from being the most played competitive fighter. If anything can happen it makes the game much more interesting and less predictable. Meaning adapt or die. Believe it or not people love competitive games where at times it's very unpredictable and the gameplay doesn't feel like ya been there seen that. If you play COH right off the bat it's nothing like the other RTS games you've played and every match is different. I never understood the skill in massing units and then watching them die or kill like they're programmed to do so. If the gameplay doesn't change or become unpredictable the players don't either and everyone stays at the same skill level.

Don't kid yourself that never stopped super smash brother melee from being the most played competitive fighter. If anything can happen it makes the game much more interesting and less predictable. Meaning adapt or die. Believe it or not people love competitive games where at times it's very unpredictable and the gameplay doesn't feel like ya been there seen that. If you play COH right off the bat it's nothing like the other RTS games you've played and every match is different. I never understood the skill in massing units and then watching them die or kill like they're programmed to do so. If the gameplay doesn't change or become unpredictable the players don't either and everyone stays at the same skill level.

zaku101

BS. Just...utter bs. Especially the last sentence. Competitive gamers still haven't mastered Starcraft, yet the gameplay has never changed and has never been unpredictable. Guess what, Starcraft is the absolute king of eSports.

If the outcome of a match can be decided by factors outside of the players' abilities, the player skill becomes meaningless. There's no "buts" or "ifs" or "good" sides about it from a competitive viewpoint, it's just a trash system. Deal with it.

I'd also love to see where did you take that "SSBM most played competitive fighter" out from.

Don't kid yourself that never stopped super smash brother melee from being the most played competitive fighter.

zaku101

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Don't kid yourself that never stopped super smash brother melee from being the most played competitive fighter.

kieranb2000

Where have you guys been? You must be like PC only gamers, EVERYONES played SSBM. If you were going to hang with your friends and play a fighting game it had to be SSBM. In Japan SSBM was like the god of fighting games people played for money and they had competitions around for it. I go to my college and people are still playing it! AS for the items being turned off I wasn't referring to that but rather how there were only like 4 good dudes and everyone else sucked and every character was uneven.

Where have you guys been? You must be like PC only gamers, EVERYONES played SSBM. If you were going to hang with your friends and play a fighting game it had to be SSBM. In Japan SSBM was like the god of fighting games people played for money and they had competitions around for it. I go to my college and people are still playing it! AS for the items being turned off I wasn't referring to that but rather how there were only like 4 good dudes and everyone else sucked and every character was uneven.

zaku101

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_GameCube_video_games

EVERYONES.

Or not.

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

Don't kid yourself that never stopped super smash brother melee from being the most played competitive fighter.

zaku101

Where have you guys been? You must be like PC only gamers, EVERYONES played SSBM. If you were going to hang with your friends and play a fighting game it had to be SSBM. In Japan SSBM was like the god of fighting games people played for money and they had competitions around for it. I go to my college and people are still playing it! AS for the items being turned off I wasn't referring to that but rather how there were only like 4 good dudes and everyone else sucked and every character was uneven.

"esports", "competitive scene" "Balanced". It's a freaking VIDEO GAME DESIGNED FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing about it makes it a sport as you claim and nothing about it will make you special in any way. Never was, never will because in the end, it's still a VIDEO GAME.

"esports", "competitive scene" "Balanced". It's a freaking VIDEO GAME DESIGNED FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing about it makes it a sport as you claim. Never was, never will.

omenodebander

[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

"esports", "competitive scene" "Balanced". It's a freaking VIDEO GAME DESIGNED FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing about it makes it a sport as you claim. Never was, never will.

kieranb2000

so says the poster with hilariously bad logic in the thread. Reread some of your posts on the thread. My own post was to draw your attention just to guess your reaction. Predictable as always.

Sayonara

(P.S don't forget to notify the mods. It's what starcraft fanatics do after all.)

It's not a simulative RTS, rather, it is an Arcade RTS.

Ravenchrome

What is this? I don't even...

"esports", "competitive scene" "Balanced". It's a freaking VIDEO GAME DESIGNED FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing about it makes it a sport as you claim and nothing about it will make you special in any way. Never was, never will because in the end, it's still a VIDEO GAME.

omenodebander

You're only saying this because you're a Blizzard hater and Relic games don't get nearly as much attention and are frowned upon by the competitive scene. Enjoy your hating while we enjoy our gaming ;)

[QUOTE="kieranb2000"][QUOTE="omenodebander"]

"esports", "competitive scene" "Balanced". It's a freaking VIDEO GAME DESIGNED FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing about it makes it a sport as you claim. Never was, never will.

omenodebander

so says the poster with hilariously bad logic in the thread. Reread some of your posts on the thread. My own post was to draw your attention just to guess your reaction. Predictable as always.

Sayonara

(P.S don't forget to notify the mods. It's what starcraft fanatics do after all.)

Then again, you're a notorious troll who hates Starcraft for no reason. So I guess "Logic" is not something you are familiar with.

Also, whining about "Starcraft fanatics" reporting you to mods? Here's a little tip: Stop trolling and you'll stop getting your posts deleted for trolling. It really is that simple. If you are going to express your opinion (which clearly differs from most people on these forums) then at the very least back up your argument, rather than resorting to calling everyone who you disagree with a fanatic or a fanboy.

"esports", "competitive scene" "Balanced". It's a freaking VIDEO GAME DESIGNED FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing about it makes it a sport as you claim and nothing about it will make you special in any way. Never was, never will because in the end, it's still a VIDEO GAME.

omenodebander

Objects don't hit units and damage them.Crimsader

I stopped reading here.

[QUOTE="omenodebander"]

"esports", "competitive scene" "Balanced". It's a freaking VIDEO GAME DESIGNED FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing about it makes it a sport as you claim and nothing about it will make you special in any way. Never was, never will because in the end, it's still a VIDEO GAME.

Vfanek

You hate it way too much, i hate it because its too similiar to starcraft 1 for me to play it a second time