StarCraft 2 wins PC GOTY on IGN!

Why is everyone on this forum rooting for the non PC game here ?GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Why is everyone on this forum rooting for the non PC game here ?Wasdie

Just because it isn't exclusive doesn't mean that it can't be a great game.

Honestly, if thats what SC1 was like I wouldn't want those mechanics changed. The different between SC2 and other RTS titles is the amount of variety in the game. This leaves all the C&C games etc for dead. I think the emphasis on micro management is incredibly clever. biggest_loser

That misses my point. I'm not saying it wasn't good, it may have even been great. However, I don't think a game that is basically a rehash of a 10 year old game with lame story, weak graphics, gameplay that is no better or worse than any other RTS. It's not compelling to me, and I don't think it warrants a PC GotY unless you are throwing out all multiplatform titles and only looking at sales. Then yeah it might win.

Trying to say ME2 doesn't count because it is a port is ridiculous as well IMO. Try playing it on a 360 or PS3 then go play it on a PC. The PC version is about 100x better in terms of controls and graphics. It was also a significant improvement over it's predicesor in almost every area, which is not something SC2 can say.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Honestly, if thats what SC1 was like I wouldn't want those mechanics changed. The different between SC2 and other RTS titles is the amount of variety in the game. This leaves all the C&C games etc for dead. I think the emphasis on micro management is incredibly clever. SerOlmy

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Honestly, if thats what SC1 was like I wouldn't want those mechanics changed. The different between SC2 and other RTS titles is the amount of variety in the game. This leaves all the C&C games etc for dead. I think the emphasis on micro management is incredibly clever. SerOlmy

That misses my point. I'm not saying it wasn't good, it may have even been great. However, I don't think a game that is basically a rehash of a 10 year old game with lame story, weak graphics, gameplay that is no better or worse than any other RTS. Its not compelling to me, and I don't think it warrants a PC GotY unless you are throwing out all multiplatform titles and only lookign at sales. Then yeah it would win.

Trying to say ME2 doesn't count because it is a port is ridiculous as well IMO. Try playing it on a 360 or PS3 then go play it on a PC. The PC version is about 100x better in terms of controls and graphics. It was also a significant improvement over it's predicesor in almost every area, which is not somethign SC2 can say.

And that's where you are wrong... SC2 improves on SC1 in EVERY single area....

Why is everyone on this forum rooting for the non PC game here ?GeneralShowzer

Just because it isn't exclusive doesn't mean that it can't be a great game.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Honestly, if thats what SC1 was like I wouldn't want those mechanics changed. The different between SC2 and other RTS titles is the amount of variety in the game. This leaves all the C&C games etc for dead. I think the emphasis on micro management is incredibly clever. SerOlmy

That misses my point. I'm not saying it wasn't good, it may have even been great. However, I don't think a game that is basically a rehash of a 10 year old game with lame story, weak graphics, gameplay that is no better or worse than any other RTS. It's not compelling to me, and I don't think it warrants a PC GotY unless you are throwing out all multiplatform titles and only looking at sales. Then yeah it might win.

Trying to say ME2 doesn't count because it is a port is ridiculous as well IMO. Try playing it on a 360 or PS3 then go play it on a PC. The PC version is about 100x better in terms of controls and graphics. It was also a significant improvement over it's predicesor in almost every area, which is not something SC2 can say.

Well deserved, I really can't think of any other GotY this year for the PC. It'd be a bit premature to give it to Cata, perhaps I could've understood F:NV.

Well deserved, I really can't think of any other GotY this year for the PC. It'd be a bit premature to give it to Cata, perhaps I could've understood F:NV.

N30F3N1X

We must have been playing a different game then...SerOlmy

Well deserved. :)

Now blizzard should improve the storyline and script in the next expansion for better SP experience.

Has it been so weak a year that a rehash of a decade old game with slightly beefed up visuals, simplistic design, and no real gameplay changes or innovations from it's predecessor can be deemed the best game of the year. MadCat46

2009 was a pathetic year for PC, 2010 was okay.

[QUOTE="MadCat46"]Has it been so weak a year that a rehash of a decade old game with slightly beefed up visuals, simplistic design, and no real gameplay changes or innovations from it's predecessor can be deemed the best game of the year. Ncsoftlover

2009 was a pathetic year for PC, 2010 was okay.

It's a damn good game.

I'm replaying ME2 at the moment, and while it's a great game in its own right, there is a real sense of how mechanical it is, even more so than other Bioware games. The whole 'find teammate > talk to teammate a few times > do teammate's mission (which invariably involves fighting through a few corridors filled with conviniently placed cover)' is frankly tiresome after like the third recruit.

In fact, the game that's mostly been on my mind when playing through ME2 was the original Assassin's Creed. It too had transparent design, you knew pretty much exactly what was coming up and it also was very mechanical, almost like playing through a checklist on some designers notepad.

Exactly what were people expecting here? I don't know of any other 2010 PC games which actually significantly improve on their predecessors with the exception of New Vegas (and even then the only Fallout game its better than is Fallout 3) and Call of Pripyat, neither of which have good enough production qualities to strike a GOTY for a reviewing website's standards.

Starcraft 2 may not be the most expansive sequel around, but its level of polish far outstrips most of its competition here, and most of the games which DO have similar levels of polish are considerably shallower than it is.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Just because it isn't exclusive doesn't mean that it can't be a great game.

nutcrackr

[QUOTE="MadCat46"]Has it been so weak a year that a rehash of a decade old game with slightly beefed up visuals, simplistic design, and no real gameplay changes or innovations from it's predecessor can be deemed the best game of the year. Ncsoftlover

2009 was a pathetic year for PC, 2010 was okay.

[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]

[QUOTE="MadCat46"]Has it been so weak a year that a rehash of a decade old game with slightly beefed up visuals, simplistic design, and no real gameplay changes or innovations from it's predecessor can be deemed the best game of the year. GeneralShowzer

2009 was a pathetic year for PC, 2010 was okay.

yes it was good, but it wasn't as good as 2007 and 2004, 2 or 3 out of the last 6 years are on par or better, that means the year doesn't stand out, so it's okay.

In comparison to 360 of course then PC had a fantastic year.

SC2 is a great game, and I like that it's exclusive.

I don't think PC users should "hate" on any game we can get on the PC, especially RPGs. They always look and execute better on our platform, and we should unite and appreciate all PC games - we get enough flak from console-only users as it is.:P:lol:

I think that doesn't deserve it, due even being a high quality game with great production values is a unbalanced game: if you take a look over the multiplayer, seems that Protoss doesn't even exist. Barely a 10% of the top 200 players in the Euro ladder and even less in the Korean leagues uses Protoss at all. SC 1 was more balanced.

About the GOTY this year I would choose BC 2.

I think that doesn't deserve it, due even being a high quality game with great production values is a unbalanced game: if you take a look over the multiplayer, seems that Protoss doesn't even exist. Barely a 10% of the top 200 players in the Euro ladder and even less in the Korean leagues uses Protoss at all. SC 1 was more balanced.

Ondoval

http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/blog/293922#blog

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1058505#blog

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/600592

There are 47 Protoss in the Europe ladder, 64 in the NA ladder, 70 in the Kor ladder.

That's 24%, 32% and 35%.

Nothing else needs to be said.

^Ok, their latest patches must be working then, but seing the GomTV tournaments I came to the conclusion that the Toss were heavily underrepresented, and the only viable tactics with Protoss in high level gaming were Colossus & Storms, with Carriers, Mothership and Inmortals barely usable.

I was actually pretty impressed with IGN's PC awards this year. Sure they aren't the exact same as what my choices would be, but they still gave recognition to what I thought were the best PC games this year.

SC 2 wouldn't be my choice for PC GOTY 2010, but its a decision I can respect. ME 2 for best story I also disagree with, compared to New Vegas and Amnesia the story was fairly weak. But at least they nominated the other two games.

And they nominated Amnesia for best story, and it won best atmosphere, so I guess i'm happy.

IGN PC GOTY over the years:

2004: Half Life 2

2005: Civ IV

2006: CoH

2007: Bioshock

2008: Sins of a Solar Empire

2009: Dragon Age

2010: Starcraft 2

Apart from Bioshock all those games were made for the pc from the start. :P

SC 2 may not be as good as I had hoped (mostly due to the KKKotick modification to battle net and other such crap) but there was no other game in 2010 worthy of the title, so I guess hooray for SC2.

That misses my point. I'm not saying it wasn't good, it may have even been great. However, I don't think a game that is basically a rehash of a 10 year old game with lame story, weak graphics, gameplay that is no better or worse than any other RTS. It's not compelling to me, and I don't think it warrants a PC GotY unless you are throwing out all multiplatform titles and only looking at sales. Then yeah it might win.SerOlmy

You have to learn a thing or two about the fact that humans have different perspectives. If you don't agree with SCII's win of PC GOTY, that's perfectly natural and understandable, because no one loves the same thing. But don't assume that your perspective is fact, or similar to every person that enjoys SC2.

For me:

• -> visuals were great to me, cristal clear, and i love the fact that its not a resource hog, so the MP can be as populated as ever.
• -> story was highly entertaining to me, it did not irritate me at all.
• -> Its not a rehash, from my experience which is about 100 hours played in SCII. Its a improved version, in every possible way, and i bought and played Starcraft 1 trough hell and back in Battle.net since 2002, oftenly a couple of hours a day, up until just a couple of years ago wen i finally got bored of it. Well, i still got it installed though.

SCII is as addicting as ever, fun, polished to perfection, and has almost endless replay value.

SC 2 is so good that its keeping me away from playing WoW too much.

SC 2 is so good that its keeping me away from playing WoW too much.

Tuzolord

[QUOTE="Tuzolord"]

SC 2 is so good that its keeping me away from playing WoW too much.

FelipeInside

Yep one of the last few true PC Developers that don't produce crappy consolized Games.

In other shocking news, the sun rose this morning and pie still tastes great. Did any one honestly expect it to go to Mass Effect?