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#1 fastr
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I'm new to steam, is it possible to remove a game from my account (i'm talking about one I have a dvd for, not a DD) so that it can be installed under someone elses account?
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#2 SaintForHire
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If you have the DVD, you can just install it on their computer, and have them put the shortcut on Steam. My dvd games just have a shortcut on steam, they're not stuck on steam forever.

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#3 nutcrackr
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No you can't do that, once associated with an account it is stuck there forever.
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#4 fastr
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Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination.
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#5 Phoenix534
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Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination. fastr

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

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#6 jettpack
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Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination. fastr
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steam a horrid abomination? dude steam is awesome.

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Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination. fastr

How dare you speak of Steam like that. I have killed for less... jk

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#8 fastr
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[QUOTE="fastr"]Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination. Phoenix534

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well
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#9 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="fastr"]Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination. fastr

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well

Apparently you don't know how these things work. Nope, nothing you said is as you believe.
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you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn wellfastr
Guess you never heard of PSN and PSN only games?
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="fastr"]Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination. fastr

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well

Read the terms of agreement the next time you install a game on steam. GG and well played.
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#12 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Same as any other service that ties your cd key/game to an account.
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#13 fastr
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Just because it's in the terms doesn't make it right. It's complete BS. Just because you don't mind getting screwed doesn't mean I don't. I'll never purchase a game that uses steam again. I'll stick with my consoles.
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Whaaaa. Steam is evil because I can't double dip.....

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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="fastr"]Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination. fastr

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well

I don't buy many boxed copies, actually, I don't buy any... but if my memory serves me well, don't boxed copy of games come with CD-Keys to prevent this exact thing? I could be wrong though, the last boxed copy I bought was Starcraft 2.

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#16 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

heatfanman101

whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well

I don't buy many boxed copies, actually, I don't buy any... but if my memory serves me well, don't boxed copy of games come with CD-Keys to prevent this exact thing? I could be wrong though, the last boxed copy I bought was Starcraft 2.

Yes they do. Which makes this even dumber of a thread.

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#17 DanielDust
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[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

heatfanman101

whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well

I don't buy many boxed copies, actually, I don't buy any... but if my memory serves me well, don't boxed copy of games come with CD-Keys to prevent this exact thing? I could be wrong though, the last boxed copy I bought was Starcraft 2.

Almost all games are like that nowdays, he just wanted to play on the wrong platform and we should all be sad because he's sticking to consoles.
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#18 guildclaws
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Once you registered it with your account, it's stuck in there forever

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#19 scar-hawk
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Steam is a form of DRM and CD keys are created to stop this exact thing. I don't agree with it but that's how it is for PC games.

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#20 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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You cannot remove a Steam game once it is tied to your account. And I definitely can't wait until console publishers start doing the same thing (tying games to a particular account), ohh the lulz that will be had.
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#21 James161324
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="fastr"]Thats B.S. If I have a hard copy of the game, why shouldn't I be allowed to do with it what I please? Certainly I can't be using it from two steam accounts at once, but why not have the ability to take it off one and put on another. Steam is a horrid abomination. fastr

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well

Lets give you a lesson in what you actually get when you buy a game.

You get the right to play the game, you DO NOT OWN the game. Consoles will do it one day to. Why allow to enduser to share or make money off your work. Consoles have already started with online passes. In a companies eyes if you don't buy it new, your no different then a pirate to them.

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#22 fastr
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[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Because then someone buys a game, finishes it, gives it to someone else, they finish it, they give it to someone else and the cycle continues and no one makes money.

James161324

whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well

Lets give you a lesson in what you actually get when you buy a game.

You get the right to play the game, you DO NOT OWN the game. Consoles will do it one day to. Why allow to enduser to share or make money off your work. Consoles have already started with online passes. In a companies eyes if you don't buy it new, your no different then a pirate to them.

Actually what your buying is a one user license. It doesn't matter who that user is as long as there is only one person using it. So if i'm no longer using it someone else should be able to.
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Share you steam account to your friend,problem solved.
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#24 Phoenix534
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Share you steam account to your friend,problem solved.MonsieurX

Unless Valve finds out. Then that creates a whole new set of problems.

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Actually what your buying is a one user license. It doesn't matter who that user is as long as there is only one person using it. So if i'm no longer using it someone else should be able to. fastr

Nope that isn't right either, when you buy a game you purchase a license for you to use the software. If you check the terms and conditions of the license you will find that it is "non-transferable" that is you do not have the right to transfer your right to use the license to anyone else. Only the person that bought/activated the license can use it, if you give your game to some one else that is infringing the terms of the license since you never had the right to transfer the license in the first place.

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#26 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

[QUOTE="fastr"] whats your point? You OWN the game, you can do what you want, as long as your only using it on one computer at a time (its a one user license after all) Besides, if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago, you CAN do that with any console game, yet they still seem to sell pretty damn wellfastr

Lets give you a lesson in what you actually get when you buy a game.

You get the right to play the game, you DO NOT OWN the game. Consoles will do it one day to. Why allow to enduser to share or make money off your work. Consoles have already started with online passes. In a companies eyes if you don't buy it new, your no different then a pirate to them.

Actually what your buying is a one user license. It doesn't matter who that user is as long as there is only one person using it. So if i'm no longer using it someone else should be able to.

No. You're buying a non-transferable license for YOU to use the game.

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#27 Darksonic666
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Yeah thats one of steams flaws onces its on your accont thats it no taking it off or moving it.

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#29 DanielDust
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Ok here, I'll do better for you:

"You OWN the game, you can do what you want" nope
" if what you said was true, the game market would have died long ago" nope
"you CAN do that with any console game" can yes, allowed? nope
" yet they still seem to sell pretty damn well" nope, they'd sell a lot more, check some data for US alone, used takes more than 1/3 of the sales.

And reported for those "other" ways you hint at, do you also hint "other" ways on the console forums or that's just when console players come to PC they just have the right to pirate?

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#30 KLONE360
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I doubt they would sell alot more, most people buy used because many people dont have the money to buy full priced goods, its the economy, people just dont have alot of money to blow on non essentials as they did years ago.

Had anyone asked about what I implied I would have responded "A. Take computer to friends house B. Call valve and Ask to get the game removed and key reinstated ( long shot, but it HAS worked for some people) C. Go buy another copy or D. This dousnt let you play online but if you let your friend use your steam account in offline mode the game might still be playable albeit offline"

Its like McCarthyism in this forum so much your all so terrified of pirates so much, well If I talk about pirating so much, and do it so much then why does my steam account have over 1 grand of games on it hmmm? And why is most if not next to all of my games new hmm? Why do I have so many game boxes and cases that no matter where you look they are everywhere? Why do I take pride in being a happy supporter of capitalism? And why is none of my consoles hacked and all run on only the software apporved by the manufacturer? , since I have my own money and my own life I dont pirate games. You want something you work for it. And you made me pissy now. Good job

And my final enchilada is, You dont know steam offline mode so well.

No one has the right to pirate something, unless you live in Afghanistan then technically it would be payback I guess.

And Besides, how in gawds name do you get that Im telling them to pirate just becuase I said if you dont want to play online? Most games have online cracks now a days anyway so saying that if you dont want to play online is just null. Even TF2 has online cracks, it makes me rage so hard seeing people who pirate such an amazing game. I would suspect anyone who uses steam enough to know about offline mode, you cant usually play the game online at all, some games wont play though but with enough messing with steam settings or just spamming launch will get them to load, albeit without any online abliity. Im raging so hard now.

But yeah, steam binds games to your account, You can try calling steam, or doing the offline mode. But having 2 steam accounts online boots one guy off. I dont want this thread to be derailed into such a pointless misunderstanding.

If you want guy I could try and find a good priced copy of the game your looking to share?

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#31 DanielDust
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Everyone will think piracy especially console players that regularly ask where can they download a PC game from since they have the right to do so because they own it on consoles. Offline mode is also irrelevant, he obviously wants to sell the game, not to share it with a friend and console games would sell more if it weren't for the used market (in the long run, that's why they sell good for only a few months, after that it's almost entirely on the used market). Don't really care what you or everybody else does, you can buy all the games you have or pirate absolutely anything you can get your hands on but it's the little unclear details on the public forums that might hint strongly towards piracy convincing other random readers to pirate, leading to a piracy chain, that's annoying. You might not be annoyed by this or maybe a little, but the used console games market also makes consoles go into the direction of PC, sooner or later you'll have games tied to your PSN/XBL account, for now quite a few game just have codes that give you access to extra content, you can do what you want with the game but that person will have to pay quite a price to also get that extra content, sooner or later it'll become way more strict.
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#32 KLONE360
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Everyone will think piracy especially console players that regularly ask where can they download a PC game from since they have the right to do so because they own it on consoles. Offline mode is also irrelevant, he obviously wants to sell the game, not to share it with a friend and console games would sell more if it weren't for the used market (in the long run, that's why they sell good for only a few months, after that it's almost entirely on the used market). Don't really care what you or everybody else does, you can buy all the games you have or pirate absolutely anything you can get your hands on but it's the little unclear details on the public forums that might hint strongly towards piracy convincing other random readers to pirate, leading to a piracy chain, that's annoying. You might not be annoyed by this or maybe a little, but the used console games market also makes consoles go into the direction of PC, sooner or later you'll have games tied to your PSN/XBL account, for now quite a few game just have codes that give you access to extra content, you can do what you want with the game but that person will have to pay quite a price to also get that extra content, sooner or later it'll become way more strict.

I guess, reading over it again. To somebody who isnt in the "know" could think its piracy related. Even though even though at the top it even says that piracy is forbidden on this forum so that funny guy talking about capitalism probably is talking about something else instead of piracy. Im okay with the whole key codes for console games if they do something more like steam with the community and everything. Instead of just throwing the keys upon us, some rewards for us using some of the money not lost due to used sales I would be fine with. Instead of throwing out costly map packs that games like TF2 give out for free. Which the sales not lost should convert to cheaper games, the glory of what capitalism should be, sadly though I don't think it will go that way. I have know people who pirate absolutely everything they get their hands on and get stuff as soon as possible. When a man does that he cant really find the time to play all those games or whatever the software is or enjoy them all so he ends up not enjoying any or most of them. I find I that waiting and using my money and work to buy stuff makes it much better. Wine earned tastes much sweeter than wine taken, I believe is the saying or something like that.
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no feedie the troll.