Strange jitter in gameplay, unrelated to framerate

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#1 Silent-Assasin7
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In both Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2, when I move the camera it is very jittery. Normal movement and everything else is fine, it only happens when I move the camera. The framerate is a solid 40-60 at all times, but this jitter is very distracting.

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Intel Pentium E6300 @ 3.0 ghz (OC'd)

Radeon 3870

4 gigs DDR2 RAM

Just a note, my friend has the same graphics card, 2 gigs DDR2 RAM, but an Athlon II X4 processor @ 3.6 ghz (OC'd) and has no such problems, so is this a processor usage? My processor is at 100% usage playing these games.

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#2 jcohenx
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I'd say you are frame rate limited somewhere in your h/w. The fact that your CPU is chugging at 100% is a prime suspect. Moving the camera is working your resources more than just sitting idle in one position because the graphics engine needs to perform Jacobian operations on all 3-d objects in the field of view, plus any lighting or other effects as one rotates the view. I would try the following. 1. If possible, OC your E6300 up to 3.2-3.6 GHz to see if the jitter goes away. If it does then you have definitely nailed the CPU as the bottleneck. 2. If further OC'ing is not possible start by turning off any background services that hit the CPU while the game is in progress. If still seeing jitter then reduce the graphics settings in the game.
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#3 Lach0121
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mass effect (which i cant get to work now once i installed my new x-fi extremegamer sound card.

before i did this anyway.. i was using a 6000+ dual core cpu with mass effect, but i upgrade to a phenom II 940 quad on the same pc and it literally doubled my perfomance in ME..... well before this soundcard issue lol.

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I OC'd to 3.2, I may have noticed a slight reduction in the jitter, but it was still quite apparent, and still 100% CPU usage. I didn't realize the E6300 was such a POS for gaming....
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I OC'd to 3.2, I may have noticed a slight reduction in the jitter, but it was still quite apparent, and still 100% CPU usage. I didn't realize the E6300 was such a POS for gaming....Silent-Assasin7

well its not, its just that games are needing more cpu power now-a-days

and whether people want to admit it or not, most of the big games that have come out in the past couple years DO get a performance increased from a good quad core. especially if its highly clocked, like 3ghz or higher.

one of the first i remember was Supreme Commander, it does get performance boost from quads over duals, and it came out feb of 2007.

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#6 Tezcatlipoca666
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I don't think it's CPU related. I had no stutter and a solid 60fps (with vsync) in ME2 with my 3.2Ghz Athlon dual-core

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Your 3.2 ghz Athlon probably beats my processor though. I'll know for sure soon, I'm testing a new comp for my cousin which will have a good Athlon II x2 in it, guess that'll be the deciding factor. Sounds a lot like processor though, since my friend has almost an exact same setup just better processor, and he has no such issues.
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#8 Tezcatlipoca666
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Your 3.2 ghz Athlon probably beats my processor though. I'll know for sure soon, I'm testing a new comp for my cousin which will have a good Athlon II x2 in it, guess that'll be the deciding factor. Sounds a lot like processor though, since my friend has almost an exact same setup just better processor, and he has no such issues.Silent-Assasin7

Perhaps. Although I still don't think a quad-core would have any significant effect as some others have alluded to (in Mass effect 2 anyway).

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[QUOTE="Silent-Assasin7"]Your 3.2 ghz Athlon probably beats my processor though. I'll know for sure soon, I'm testing a new comp for my cousin which will have a good Athlon II x2 in it, guess that'll be the deciding factor. Sounds a lot like processor though, since my friend has almost an exact same setup just better processor, and he has no such issues.Tezcatlipoca666

Perhaps. Although I still don't think a quad-core would have any significant effect as some others have alluded to (in Mass effect 2 anyway).

yeah sorry the quad did double the performance of ME1, im sorry i didnt realize you all were talking about ME2.

(then again the quad core, may have just removed the bottlenecks of my 8800gt sli setup, so it seems like it gave me double the performance in Mass Effect 1.)

either way it helped big time,

i do not know if this applies to ME2, though im sure a high clocked quad would play the game better than a similarly clocked dual core.

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#10 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Assasin7"]Your 3.2 ghz Athlon probably beats my processor though. I'll know for sure soon, I'm testing a new comp for my cousin which will have a good Athlon II x2 in it, guess that'll be the deciding factor. Sounds a lot like processor though, since my friend has almost an exact same setup just better processor, and he has no such issues.Lach0121

Perhaps. Although I still don't think a quad-core would have any significant effect as some others have alluded to (in Mass effect 2 anyway).

yeah sorry the quad did double the performance of ME1, im sorry i didnt realize you all were talking about ME2.

(then again the quad core, may have just removed the bottlenecks of my 8800gt sli setup, so it seems like it gave me double the performance in Mass Effect 1.)

either way it helped big time,

i do not know if this applies to ME2, though im sure a high clocked quad would play the game better than a similarly clocked dual core.

It might very well apply to ME1. I had a much worse and quite unstable frame rate in ME1. ME2 was clearly much better optimized.

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#11 Silent-Assasin7
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Hey just wondering, if it wasn't the processor, what else could it possibly be?
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#12 Tezcatlipoca666
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Hey just wondering, if it wasn't the processor, what else could it possibly be?Silent-Assasin7

Well here is a question. How stable is your frame rate?

I know ME1 seemed jittery to me until I locked the framerate at 40. Before that it was rapidly fluctuating between ~40-60 and this was what caused the jitter. This can happen in pretty much any game.

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I OC'd to 3.2, I may have noticed a slight reduction in the jitter, but it was still quite apparent, and still 100% CPU usage. I didn't realize the E6300 was such a POS for gaming....Silent-Assasin7
O.o ME plays well on a 2.5Ghz dual, @3Ghz it's a mile ahead the 3870 in that game. As the second PC iv'e got has a E5300 oced to 3,1Ghz and a HD3850 i can say that the problem you got isn't in the CPU.

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#14 Roggirek
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[QUOTE="Silent-Assasin7"]Hey just wondering, if it wasn't the processor, what else could it possibly be?Tezcatlipoca666

Well here is a question. How stable is your frame rate?

I know ME1 seemed jittery to me until I locked the framerate at 40. Before that it was rapidly fluctuating between ~40-60 and this was what caused the jitter. This can happen in pretty much any game.

How do you lock the FPS?
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#15 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Assasin7"]Hey just wondering, if it wasn't the processor, what else could it possibly be?Roggirek

Well here is a question. How stable is your frame rate?

I know ME1 seemed jittery to me until I locked the framerate at 40. Before that it was rapidly fluctuating between ~40-60 and this was what caused the jitter. This can happen in pretty much any game.

How do you lock the FPS?

Depends on the game. I opened the config file and change the maxfps from 62 to 40.

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#16 Roggirek
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Ah, thanks.
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#17 Silent-Assasin7
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[QUOTE="Silent-Assasin7"]I OC'd to 3.2, I may have noticed a slight reduction in the jitter, but it was still quite apparent, and still 100% CPU usage. I didn't realize the E6300 was such a POS for gaming....swehunt

O.o ME plays well on a 2.5Ghz dual, @3Ghz it's a mile ahead the 3870 in that game. As the second PC iv'e got has a E5300 oced to 3,1Ghz and a HD3850 i can say that the problem you got isn't in the CPU.

Oh, wow. So, any idea what could be causing this then? How do I lock the framerate in ME2 or Bioshock?
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#18 Silent-Assasin7
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Strange, when I lower the camera sensitivity in bioshock 2 it goes away....
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#19 foxtrot4239
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Hi. You could try "Game Booster" or putting thevideo setings to a lower resolution.