SupCom worth to be missed?

There are four things to know before buying SupCom:

1. There's no infantry. At all. If you like to watch men dying, like me, then you will find SupCom bland. Robots in space? Bleh.

2. There's a hell of a lot of building. The expansion looks like it's cutting down on that a lot with templates, but you'll still spend a lot of time building bases.

3. It's an online game. If you skirmish or play campaigns, don't bother with SupCom. The only place to play it is online.

4. It's pretty complicated, as games go - there's a very strong element of unit counters, you have to be able to use the right units in the right terrain, and you need to be able to micromanage a large scale production outfit in an efficient way to be a great player. It's pretty complicted.

If you acknowledge these things, or want them, then you can get a hell of a lot of fun out of Supreme Commander.

Well it's an experience different from other commercial RTSs. I guess you wont know what you're missing out on then, which could be good or bad depending how you look at it.

It's not so much a race to build the biggest army in the fastest possible time like many others. People actually use the tech tree to some extent, and with purpose too. The learning curve however is... not great... but that's what makes the time you invest worthwhile.

I see. Is the demo worth checking out? LaNoOm

The demo is actually pretty good. You get a decent amount of the single player from one of the factions, with one skirmish map. More than enough to learn the gameplay mechanics.

it doesn't make up any part of the retail experience.onemic

If it did, there would be no point buying it. Funny thing about demos.

I've been wondering the same question. Yesterday I saw SupCom and the expansion both for $30 each, and wondered if I should grab both.

I really enjoyed the demo though. Complex, micromanaging fun.

Im just really busy playing other games ATM like:

BFME2

C&C3

Dawn of War

Age of Empires 3

Company of Heroes

World in Conflict

The expansion is stand alone. Which means you don't need the original SupCom.Just so you know.BlackAlpha666

And that's kinda the point. For those of us that didn't have time/money to play the original, should we bother going back and buying it first?

[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]The expansion is stand alone. Which means you don't need the original SupCom.Just so you know.teirdome

And that's kinda the point. For those of us that didn't have time/money to play the original, should we both going back and buying it first?

Not sure what you mean but I never said that the standalone expansion was a bad thing (price is the same as of a normal expansion anyway), if that is what you were thinking.

Personally, I think that there are other games out now that are a lot more fun then SupCom. So I would get those other games first.

I heard that the original game got optimization improvments in two patches but I am still afraid to buy it retail. Does the expansion bring out even more optimization improvments and if so are those available for the original? On the demo I got around 15fps when beggening a skirmish mach, is a boost to playable levels too much to hope for?

Yes a fully patched Supcom has MANY balance tweaks to the gameplay and improves performance over the demo, plus the interface was slimmed down.

The expansion looks a lot sharper and plays out smoother (as in gameplay). As in performance wise, the new shader engine made my FPS go down some from Supcom, but they optimized the engine so that simulation speed is up, so larger maps with more enemies runs much smoother now.

Supcom is more like chess, get to know the units, planning and management is everything. Games can take up to 2 hours depending on map and playstyle. The game has some pretty good satisfaction to it though if you can be patient with it and have enough time to play it.

Yes a fully patched Supcom has MANY balance tweaks to the gameplay and improves performance over the demo, plus the interface was slimmed down.

The expansion looks a lot sharper and plays out smoother (as in gameplay). As in performance wise, the new shader engine made my FPS go down some from Supcom, but they optimized the engine so that simulation speed is up, so larger maps with more enemies runs much smoother now.

Supcom is more like chess, get to know the units, planning and management is everything. Games can take up to 2 hours depending on map and playstyle. The game has some pretty good satisfaction to it though if you can be patient with it and have enough time to play it.

Marfoo

All you need to do is simply lower the fidelity settings and the game looks like normal supcom and performance goes up too.

[QUOTE="Marfoo"]

Yes a fully patched Supcom has MANY balance tweaks to the gameplay and improves performance over the demo, plus the interface was slimmed down.

The expansion looks a lot sharper and plays out smoother (as in gameplay). As in performance wise, the new shader engine made my FPS go down some from Supcom, but they optimized the engine so that simulation speed is up, so larger maps with more enemies runs much smoother now.

Supcom is more like chess, get to know the units, planning and management is everything. Games can take up to 2 hours depending on map and playstyle. The game has some pretty good satisfaction to it though if you can be patient with it and have enough time to play it.

onemic

All you need to do is simply lower the fidelity settings and the game looks like normal supcom and performance goes up too.

Does the performance increase only if you buy the expansions (if you already have the patches installed?)

do you have company of heroes? i'm personally thinking of making that one of my next few purchases, as soon as i upgrade. or world in conflict. and before you decide, try the demo!fireandcloud

Yeah I have Company of Heroes. It's awesome.