SUPER Bottlenecking HD 4870 (Please Help)

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#1 shawn157
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Well I just picked up a XFX 4870 and a ultra 650 watt and now my computer specs are

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AMD Athlon dual core 4450e 2.3ghz

3gb Ram

Ultra LSP 650 watt

Radeon HD 4870 XFX

It seems as though the normal core clock is around 750 and it's bottlenecking to 240??? Can anyone explain this and if you can fix it plz tell me :(

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#2 patrick157
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I have the same problem, bro with the same numbers at the end of their name(you copycat). Except i have a 4890.

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#3 darx55
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what do you mean its bottlenecking to 250?do you mena its downlocking?if you mean that,its fine..it downlocks itself when you dont need the extra power to save energy and to keep temps down..
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#4 titanium_basic
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240 is in 2d mode it will do 750 on 3d apps

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#5 Captain__Tripps
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Well I just picked up a XFX 4870 and a ultra 650 watt and now my computer specs are

Specs:

AMD Athlon dual core 4450e 2.3ghz

3gb Ram

Ultra LSP 650 watt

Radeon HD 4870 XFX

It seems as though the normal core clock is around 750 and it's bottlenecking to 240??? Can anyone explain this and if you can fix it plz tell me :(

shawn157
That CPU will likely bottleneck that card, but I don't know what you mean about bottlenecking to 240 what do you mean?
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#6 shawn157
Member since 2009 • 55 Posts

I mean that it's clock speed is down to 240mhz and on tf2 I am getting like 60fps non combat on all high settings.

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#7 hartsickdiscipl
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Well I just picked up a XFX 4870 and a ultra 650 watt and now my computer specs are

Specs:

AMD Athlon dual core 4450e 2.3ghz

3gb Ram

Ultra LSP 650 watt

Radeon HD 4870 XFX

It seems as though the normal core clock is around 750 and it's bottlenecking to 240??? Can anyone explain this and if you can fix it plz tell me :(

shawn157

This is not what "bottlenecking" means. Bottlenecking is the effect of reduced performance from having a component of your system holding back the rest. In your case, your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU, but not by reducing the clock speeds of your GPU. Your GPU is clocking itself down to 240mhz when the full 750mhz isn't needed. It's a power-saving feature that most modern cards come with. This would happen no matter what CPU or power supply you were using.

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#8 shawn157
Member since 2009 • 55 Posts

But don't you think I should be gettinbg more than 60 fps in tf2?

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#9 hartsickdiscipl
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But don't you think I should be gettinbg more than 60 fps in tf2?

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Yeah, I definitely do think so. Your CPU is more than enough for that game, and your GPU is a beast.

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#10 shawn157
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Do you think it could be my PSU? I mean a 650 watt is 100w above recommended but Ultra isn't the BEST brand but I have heard a lot of good things about them so that's why I went with it.

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#11 hartsickdiscipl
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Do you think it could be my PSU? I mean a 650 watt is 100w above recommended but Ultra isn't the BEST brand but I have heard a lot of good things about them so that's why I went with it.

shawn157

Based on the specs I found, that PSU should have a single 38-amp 12-volt rail. That's MORE than enough for your GPU, so I am questioning if the PSU is the problem.

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#12 shawn157
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so u dont think its the psu

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#13 kaitanuvax
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Its called vertical sync.

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#14 shawn157
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Its called vertical sync.

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Whats that and how do I fix it?
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#15 kaitanuvax
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[QUOTE="kaitanuvax"]

Its called vertical sync.

shawn157

Whats that and how do I fix it?

This guy explains it very well:

"The V-Sync option basically restricts the video card to producing frame rates no higher than the refresh of the monitor. Testers turn it off to how fast a video card can go. However, when turned off, and the fps are above the refresh rate of your monitor, you can get artifacts and tearing on the screen.

Lets say your monitor's refresh rate is 85Hz. That means the screen refreshes 85 times per second. But lets say your video card is producing 150 frames per second. In one seconds time your video card has produced 65 more frames than your monitor can display. This is why you get artifacts and tearing.


Now you usually don't see too many problems unless the fps produced by your card are substantially higher than the refresh rate of your monitor. In the above example, you would likely see the artifacts and tearing. However, lets say your refresh rate is 110Hz, and your card is only producing 120 fps. You won't likely have too many problems, if any at all, with this.


Now you also need to understand one thing. If you had a refresh rate of 85Hz, but your card was capable of 150 fps, and never, ever, dropped below 100 fps, then your fps would still stay pegged at 85Hz at all times. Only if the card dropped below 85 fps, even when V-Sync was off, would you see drops under 85 fps."

http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?t=72157


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#16 shawn157
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So I would want this on or off and where do I set it?

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#17 kaitanuvax
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So I would want this on or off and where do I set it?

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Same place where you'd set other graphical options in the game.

And you'd want it on, unless you're doing a benchmark.

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#18 shawn157
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So you set it in the games options.
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#19 Captain__Tripps
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Some games (a lot) dont have vsync options. You can also force it in the control panel for the graphics driver, you might want to check what that is set at.