SWTOR Has a release date!

22/12/11 Finally! I have it pre-ordered purley because i'm a fan of Star Wars. Is anybody elese getting it?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-24-star-wars-the-old-republic-release-date-announced-at-eurogamer-expo-2011

I may or may not get it around June or July of 2012 but I am definitely not getting it at release.

Maybe I'll wait until it flops and then get it when they decide to make it free-to-play. ferrari2001

So many pessimists, and I really don't see why. The game honestly doesn't look bad. Maybe a GW2 fan or something, cause if you like one, you apparently hate the other. I don't see why everyone can't get along. One should hope that both succeed and give wow some much needed competition. That said, i'm more than likely getting it.

I may or may not get it around June or July of 2012 but I am definitely not getting it at release.

-wildflower-

Hmm, so it wasnt going to be released in November then. Nice to finally have a release date though.

I'm either going to pass completely or wait until a free trial is offered, coupled with a massive price reduction of the initial box/account purchase. I have played far too many MMORPGs that make you feel like you're beta-testing them for the developers. Also, it'll be make or break for this game when the monthly fees start kicking in after the first month. I have a feeling SWTOR is going to bleed subscribers, and their retention rates will be atrocious.

Maybe I'll wait until it flops and then get it when they decide to make it free-to-play. ferrari2001

It wont flop. Even if the game happened to suck, which it doesn't (beta tester), the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Maybe I'll wait until it flops and then get it when they decide to make it free-to-play. Artekus

It wont flop. Even if the game happened to suck, which it doesn't (beta tester), the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

star trek online says hi

the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

Artekus

Bad timing for for EA to many great game out..SWtoR will now be on the back burner maybe till spring when there is another game draught

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the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

Gooeykat

The exepction being Star Wars: Galaxies had a garbage production team. This game is made by the same people as Mass Effect, Dragon Age etc.

Galaxies genuinley sucked. For real. No joke it was awful.

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[QUOTE="Artekus"]

the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

xboxmad12

The exepction being Star Wars: Galaxies had a garbage production team. This game is made by the same people as Mass Effect, Dragon Age etc.

Galaxies genuinley sucked. For real. No joke it was awful.

Galaxies was great, until they ruined it.

ME was bad, and Dragon Age Origins is how a good guide on how to not make a game. Copy paste encounters, terrible quests, major imbalance, ect.

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[QUOTE="Gooeykat"] Star Wars Galaxies :) Just saying that the SW brand name slapped on something doesn't ensure success.

Maroxad

The exepction being Star Wars: Galaxies had a garbage production team. This game is made by the same people as Mass Effect, Dragon Age etc.

Galaxies genuinley sucked. For real. No joke it was awful.

Galaxies was great, until they ruined it.

ME was bad, and Dragon Age Origins is how a good guide on how to not make a game. Copy paste encounters, terrible quests, major imbalance, ect.

What about KOTOR? Regared as one of the Greatest RPG's of all time.

[QUOTE="Gooeykat"]

[QUOTE="Artekus"]

the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

xboxmad12

The exepction being Star Wars: Galaxies had a garbage production team. This game is made by the same people as Mass Effect, Dragon Age etc.

Galaxies genuinley sucked. For real. No joke it was awful.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="xboxmad12"]

The exepction being Star Wars: Galaxies had a garbage production team. This game is made by the same people as Mass Effect, Dragon Age etc.

Galaxies genuinley sucked. For real. No joke it was awful.

xboxmad12

Galaxies was great, until they ruined it.

ME was bad, and Dragon Age Origins is how a good guide on how to not make a game. Copy paste encounters, terrible quests, major imbalance, ect.

What about KOTOR? Regared as one of the Greatest RPG's of all time.

Xbox version was in a foreign language with no option to change it to english. PC version was bugged beyond belief. I didnt come very far so I cannot properly comment on it. Furthermore that game was 8 years ago.

Is George Lucas still a good movie director?

Edit: Anyhow, Bioware are still decent. It is only their direction they need to work on. What they do they do well (provide a cinematic roleplaying experience), but I am not happy with the direction they took with recent games.

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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Maybe I'll wait until it flops and then get it when they decide to make it free-to-play. Krelian-co

It wont flop. Even if the game happened to suck, which it doesn't (beta tester), the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

star trek online says hi

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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Maybe I'll wait until it flops and then get it when they decide to make it free-to-play. Krelian-co

It wont flop. Even if the game happened to suck, which it doesn't (beta tester), the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

star trek online says hi

Star Trek is popular?

I guess not.

The exepction being Star Wars: Galaxies had a garbage production team. This game is made by the same people as Mass Effect, Dragon Age etc.

Galaxies genuinley sucked. For real. No joke it was awful.xboxmad12

Galaxies definitely did not suck. It's still one of my favorite MMORPGs ever.

It had a sandbox world, was skill-based, lacked developer hand holding and spoon-fed "content," the economy was 100% player driven and the crafting was actually important since everything was made by the players. It was truly a simulated world to run around in and do whatever you wanted to do. The first year or so of the game was amazing and it was only when SOE and LA became greedy and started chasing WoW numbers that the game truly became garbage.

Oh, and I had a good laugh at KotOR being considered one of the greatest RPG of all time. It is? By whom? Generation Xbox?

Look, I'm not saying SWTOR is a terrible game. It's not but it's also not that good either. It's pretty ho-hum and run-or-the-mill, actually. It has high production values for sure but everything else is pretty mediocre. It might be worth a play-though once the price has dropped to less than $20.

Maybe I'll wait until it flops and then get it when they decide to make it free-to-play. ferrari2001

Flops. :lol:

Please don't make ridiculous comments unless you've actually played the beta.

These forums are going to be going crazy when gamespot gets there review up for this :P

So many people are hoping the game flops, dies and becomes F2P over night. The success of a PC game surely cannot be such a bad thing. IxX3xil3d0n3XxI

Cosign, I dont understand why so many are so set on it failing.

Im not super excited for it but Id like to see as many pc exclusives do well as possible.

These forums are going to be going crazy when gamespot gets there review up for this :P

kozzy1234

If Dragon Age 2 received an 8 I have no doubt SWTOR is going to get, at the very least, a 15. :D

Its cool that it is finally coming out soon so we can actually see how it is. I am however going to wait at least 6 months before I even look at it. The first month or two everybody will be yelling how amazing it is and how its going to kill all other MMOs. After that is when you start hearing all the flaws that it is bound to have. Bioware is a good developer (despite my last game from them being NWN), but lets face it.....they don't make flawless games. Not to mention Bioware is mostly known for their single player experience despite NWN having an excellent multiplayer. I'm a bit worried based on everything I have read and everything people in the beta have been telling me that it will be WOW in space with less grinding especially since the most excited person in my EVE online corp got in the beta.......disappeared for a couple days then started staying on EVE all day despite the beta still running.

So many people are hoping the game flops, dies and becomes F2P over night. The success of a PC game surely cannot be such a bad thing. IxX3xil3d0n3XxI

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[QUOTE="Artekus"]

It wont flop. Even if the game happened to suck, which it doesn't (beta tester), the popularity of Star Wars alone will ensure success.

Artekus

star trek online says hi

Star Trek is popular?

I guess not.

[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"]So many people are hoping the game flops, dies and becomes F2P over night. The success of a PC game surely cannot be such a bad thing. ArchonOver

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star trek online says hi

IZoMBiEI

Star Trek is popular?

I guess not.

[QUOTE="IZoMBiEI"][QUOTE="Artekus"]

Star Trek is popular?

I guess not.

lx_theo

still it has a solid fan base and it "should guarantee it success" yet it failed terribly bad, you won't play a crappy game just because you are a fan, maybe try it, but will get bored fast, Swtor is a carbon copy of wow.

22/12/11 Finally! I have it pre-ordered purley because i'm a fan of Star Wars. Is anybody elese getting it?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-24-star-wars-the-old-republic-release-date-announced-at-eurogamer-expo-2011

xboxmad12

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="IZoMBiEI"]?? star trek is as least just a popular as star wars, and IMO, much better.Krelian-co

still it has a solid fan base and it "should guarantee it success" yet it failed terribly bad, you won't play a crappy game just because you are a fan, maybe try it, but will get bored fast, Swtor is a carbon copy of wow.

[QUOTE="xboxmad12"]

22/12/11 Finally! I have it pre-ordered purley because i'm a fan of Star Wars. Is anybody elese getting it?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-24-star-wars-the-old-republic-release-date-announced-at-eurogamer-expo-2011

AzatiS

Exactly, so you buy SWTOR with the free month, and play through it like it was a SP game, which the leveling is supposed to be like, then when other games hit, you get those. I'm probably going to pick up SWTOR just because Diablo 3 was delayed and I'm 99% sure GW2 isn't coming out this year either.

Gee I can hardly wait. Full price for a game then "give us more money" - Ohhh look I have a lightsaber!! Zing zing! biggest_loser

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Gee I can hardly wait. Full price for a game then "give us more money" - Ohhh look I have a lightsaber!! Zing zing! lx_theo

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[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Its not as popular as Star Wars. Its fans may say its better, but Star Wars has a much bigger appeal across the world to a much larger group of people it appeals to. Star Trek is still often seen in that geek type light (though the new movie was a good step forward), Star Wars is iconic well beyond that. lx_theo

still it has a solid fan base and it "should guarantee it success" yet it failed terribly bad, you won't play a crappy game just because you are a fan, maybe try it, but will get bored fast, Swtor is a carbon copy of wow.

ok lets say i agree with the fanbase and star wars has a greater fanbase, the game does nothing to innovate, it feels like wow in space and the movements and animations are very akward. People are bored with wow waiting for another mmorpg to take its place, why would they change for almost the same formula wow has and they are bored with? if i want a copy id rather play the original no? thats why wow clones die in six months at best. I have to say when i heard swtor and bioware i thought it was gonna be amazing, what a dissapointment they just followed the easy path. Back then i thought bioware wouldn't dissapoint like they did with da2 either.

i will stand my point, the only thing different that swtor has going on is the setting and story, and i personally think those are wrong elements for a mmorpg to focus, mmorpgs are all about gameplay, which swtor is weak at.

It HAS to flop. I will lose all hope on humanity if it doesn't. We've had enough carebear/casualised/theme-park, WoW-like crappy MMOs that are ''massive'' only in name. We need someone to make a *REAL*, hardocre old-school MMORPG.

Maybe I'll wait until it flops and then get it when they decide to make it free-to-play. ferrari2001

Since they don't offer a lifetime sub I might just do the same thing. I'll still have GW2 to keep me busy.

It HAS to flop. I will lose all hope on humanity if it doesn't. We've had enough carebear/casualised/theme-park, WoW-like crappy MMOs that are ''massive'' only in name. We need someone to make a *REAL*, hardocre old-school MMORPG.

QQabitmoar

[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"]So many people are hoping the game flops, dies and becomes F2P over night. The success of a PC game surely cannot be such a bad thing. kozzy1234

Cosign, I dont understand why so many are so set on it failing.

Im not super excited for it but Id like to see as many pc exclusives do well as possible.

It HAS to flop. I will lose all hope on humanity if it doesn't. We've had enough carebear/casualised/theme-park, WoW-like crappy MMOs that are ''massive'' only in name. We need someone to make a *REAL*, hardocre old-school MMORPG.

QQabitmoar

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It HAS to flop. I will lose all hope on humanity if it doesn't. We've had enough carebear/casualised/theme-park, WoW-like crappy MMOs that are ''massive'' only in name. We need someone to make a *REAL*, hardocre old-school MMORPG.

DanielDust

Asian mmos can be decent as well.

To be honest, I would argue Asian mmos have improved a lot since the beginning of the century whereas western mmos have declined in quality (Guild Wars 2 looks like an exception to the rule). But alas, people will say lolasianmmo and say it is bad without even giving it a chance.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

It HAS to flop. I will lose all hope on humanity if it doesn't. We've had enough carebear/casualised/theme-park, WoW-like crappy MMOs that are ''massive'' only in name. We need someone to make a *REAL*, hardocre old-school MMORPG.

Maroxad

Asian mmos can be decent as well.

To be honest, I would argue Asian mmos have improved a lot since the beginning of the century whereas western mmos have declined in quality (Guild Wars 2 looks like an exception to the rule). But alas, people will say lolasianmmo and say it is bad without even giving it a chance.

It HAS to flop. I will lose all hope on humanity if it doesn't. We've had enough carebear/casualised/theme-park, WoW-like crappy MMOs that are ''massive'' only in name. We need someone to make a *REAL*, hardocre old-school MMORPG.

QQabitmoar

The thing is, if it does flop, it'll strike a huge blow to BioWare, maybe one they can't recover from. The amount of money they've spent on this game is huge. Even with their recent screw ups, they're still one of the only big companies out there making decent RPGs.