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#1 d12malu
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Whoops, I mean, Richard Garriott's Tabula Rasa. The guy even insists on having his name in the title. Fine, you made this mess so I guess you can claim it.

I really looked forward to this game, being essentially the only Space-based, MMO hybrid, FPS/RPG on the market. Played WoW forever but severe burn-out will not have me playing that again till the Northrend x-pac at earliest. I bought this game on good faith, talked it up to get friends to join, started a clan, wanted to make some machinima movies, and planned on a website. Things are looking good and I got my character to lvl 36, guild has grown to 30 members, and lots of improvements and additions planned for the future. I even put in a good post on the Tabula section about my early impressions on the game.

Well, let me tell you why this is a scam. Im not criticizing the fact that the bottom drops off Tabula Rasa after level 15 and in the higher-end instances. Ignore the amount of batteries you will start piling up (if you play on a wireless mouse), because of the click-fest that makes up 90% of gameplay. I'm not talking about the bland colors and ho-hum landscapes that await you in every "new" zone. I can overlook all of that in hopes of a game improving, but let me tell you why this game isn't getting anymore of my money.

As we type and read right now, somewhere in Austin, Texas, Richard Garriott is making the final preparations for his space training in Russia. Come early January, Garriott will be flying to Russia, and undergoing extensive space training off and on till his launch planned in Oct. 2008. He paid $30 million and will be one of the first 500 humans ever in space. A once in a lifetime opportunity and we wish him well. But there is the small matter of a game you're expecting the public to pay $65 for the first 2 months to play.

If the game's creator is not even into his own game, how can he expect the general public to be into it as well? There are lots of glaring holes in Tabula Rasa, the feeling of half-baked in prevalent. These are very crucial months in a game's success and the creator himself will be 7000 miles away at a Russian spacebase trying to learn the local language while becoming an astronaut by Oct. I can't tell you who will win the Super Bowl, but I am 100% certain Richard Garriott's mindset is not on Tabula Rasa. Popping on-line to ref a duel or throwing a couple posts onto a website isn't enough for me. Tabula Rasa isn't that good. It's bad enough that there is no official forums. Instead of feeling secure that they are there for the paying customer by having boards, Tabula Rasa gives you the cold shoulder.

In the end, we were duped into believing that Richard Garriott was bringing something revolutionary to the table. And when we complain, there is no official site to discuss the issues and to Richard Garriott we will be but a speck on a giant blue ball. Im glad I was able to contribute to Garriott's first-class ticket to space, I'm glad I was able to spend $65 for 10 levels of enjoyment, but I'm most glad for canceling my account. I suggest you do the same or look elsewhere for your space and mmo fix. He took a hell of an opportunity to go to space, but at a hell of an inopportune time.

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Learn to use vocabulary, Tabula Rasa isn't a scam, its a game that you are dissapointed in. A scam would imply that they are just taking your money without giving you anything.

If you're dissapointed with it, don't play it and have fun with WoW. If you want a good MMO that is actually deep try Eve, 14 day trial really impressed me and its my new mmo :D

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Learn to use vocabulary, Tabula Rasa isn't a scam, its a game that you are dissapointed in. A scam would imply that they are just taking your money without giving you anything.

If you're dissapointed with it, don't play it and have fun with WoW. If you want a good MMO that is actually deep try Eve, 14 day trial really impressed me and its my new mmo :D

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EVE is by far the worst MMORPG on the market. It's so incredbily slow paced it's pathetic.

Whoops, I mean, Richard Garriott's Tabula Rasa. The guy even insists on having his name in the title. Fine, you made this mess so I guess you can claim it.

I really looked forward to this game, being essentially the only Space-based, MMO hybrid, FPS/RPG on the market. Played WoW forever but severe burn-out will not have me playing that again till the Northrend x-pac at earliest. I bought this game on good faith, talked it up to get friends to join, started a clan, wanted to make some machinima movies, and planned on a website. Things are looking good and I got my character to lvl 36, guild has grown to 30 members, and lots of improvements and additions planned for the future. I even put in a good post on the Tabula section about my early impressions on the game.

Well, let me tell you why this is a scam. Im not criticizing the fact that the bottom drops off Tabula Rasa after level 15 and in the higher-end instances. Ignore the amount of batteries you will start piling up (if you play on a wireless mouse), because of the click-fest that makes up 90% of gameplay. I'm not talking about the bland colors and ho-hum landscapes that await you in every "new" zone. I can overlook all of that in hopes of a game improving, but let me tell you why this game isn't getting anymore of my money.

As we type and read right now, somewhere in Austin, Texas, Richard Garriott is making the final preparations for his space training in Russia. Come early January, Garriott will be flying to Russia, and undergoing extensive space training off and on till his launch planned in Oct. 2008. He paid $30 million and will be one of the first 500 humans ever in space. A once in a lifetime opportunity and we wish him well. But there is the small matter of a game you're expecting the public to pay $65 for the first 2 months to play.

If the game's creator is not even into his own game, how can he expect the general public to be into it as well? There are lots of glaring holes in Tabula Rasa, the feeling of half-baked in prevalent. These are very crucial months in a game's success and the creator himself will be 7000 miles away at a Russian spacebase trying to learn the local language while becoming an astronaut by Oct. I can't tell you who will win the Super Bowl, but I am 100% certain Richard Garriott's mindset is not on Tabula Rasa. Popping on-line to ref a duel or throwing a couple posts onto a website isn't enough for me. Tabula Rasa isn't that good. It's bad enough that there is no official forums. Instead of feeling secure that they are there for the paying customer by having boards, Tabula Rasa gives you the cold shoulder.

In the end, we were duped into believing that Richard Garriott was bringing something revolutionary to the table. And when we complain, there is no official site to discuss the issues and to Richard Garriott we will be but a speck on a giant blue ball. Im glad I was able to contribute to Garriott's first-class ticket to space, I'm glad I was able to spend $65 for 10 levels of enjoyment, but I'm most glad for canceling my account. I suggest you do the same or look elsewhere for your space and mmo fix. He took a hell of an opportunity to go to space, but at a hell of an inopportune time.

d12malu

I agree. I looked forward to this game also, but as it turns out, it just sucks :)

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Learn to use vocabulary, Tabula Rasa isn't a scam, its a game that you are dissapointed in. A scam would imply that they are just taking your money without giving you anything.

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A scam is a deceptive act and I find what Richard Garriott did was deceptive. He hyped this game up, gave us a good time for 10-15 levels, then the wheels fall off and he heads for space. That's a scam if I ever saw one. You don't put your name on a box, talk about revolutionary gameplay, hype the launch, when this whole time he's actually had his head in the clouds dreaming of ways to go to space. Well, I'll tell you one way. One way is to make a game so it pays for his ride there. I hear Garriott is debating whether to spend $10 million more on a space walk, I guess the deciding factor is will his game float long enough for him to cover that. That's deception, that's fradulent, that's a scam.

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First things first. The game costs 30 dollars if you buy it online, 40 at most stores if its a sale. You really have to be either lazy or just a bit on the passive side to spend 50 bucks for it. Second, the game include a free month of play. So its 30 bucks for the game and 30 days, then 15 (or less) per month after that.

Second, space training takes YEARS of preparation. Some couch potatoe cant say "ooh, i got lots of money Im going to space". You have to pass hours of medical testing, and you have to spend years training your body. As such, Richard Garriot has been spending his money to go to space long before he has seen a dime of ours. In addition, if you think the man made 60 million of this game, you dont have a clue how the industry works (I dont know much, but I do know you dont get paid Baseball-star salaries).

As for the game, its fun. Click fest? Hell ya, but so was Diablo, any shooter, any RTS, and for that matter, any MMO. A PC gamer complaining about clicking too much is like a teacher saying he hates talking...its hyprocritical. I have heard that, while the first 15 levels are great, levels 15-30 are a bit of a drag. Thats OK though imo; its an MMO, and while that doesnt give the game a free pass to be lame, it gives it a bit of slack when errors do occur.

In addition, why are you blaming Richard? Did he make the entire game? Did he design each quest? Did he alone cause you all your pain when you play this game? A lot of people put their names on projects; chefs, artists, vintners...the list goes on. I personally dont approve of it, but I certainly dont despise anyone for doing so.

The man is wealthy. He likely had rich parents (one was a scientists iirc), he has been in charge of companies since 1980 and has had them bought by/sold to other companies (Like EA, which has deep pockets). To say going to space is eccentric is ok by me, but dont say he is scamming us. Tabula Rasa is a good game, its innovative, and its not a freaking boring grind

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Thought this might add a little understanding:

Richard Garriott, 46, is expected to spend about a week aboard the ISS during a 10-day spaceflight. He plans to perform science experiments as part of commercial agreements with private firms, including a series of protein crystallization experiments for the biotechnology firm ExtremoZyme, Inc. founded by his father.

Note the plural firms. 30+ million dollars is very easy to come by when you get companies to sponsor you.

I got this from here: http://www.space.com/news/070928_garriott_spacetourist.html

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First things first. The game costs 30 dollars if you buy it online, 40 at most stores if its a sale. You really have to be either lazy or just a bit on the passive side to spend 50 bucks for it. Second, the game include a free month of play. So its 30 bucks for the game and 30 days, then 15 (or less) per month after that.

Second, space training takes YEARS of preparation. Some couch potatoe cant say "ooh, i got lots of money Im going to space". You have to pass hours of medical testing, and you have to spend years training your body. As such, Richard Garriot has been spending his money to go to space long before he has seen a dime of ours. In addition, if you think the man made 60 million of this game, you dont have a clue how the industry works (I dont know much, but I do know you dont get paid Baseball-star salaries).

As for the game, its fun. Click fest? Hell ya, but so was Diablo, any shooter, any RTS, and for that matter, any MMO. A PC gamer complaining about clicking too much is like a teacher saying he hates talking...its hyprocritical. I have heard that, while the first 15 levels are great, levels 15-30 are a bit of a drag. Thats OK though imo; its an MMO, and while that doesnt give the game a free pass to be lame, it gives it a bit of slack when errors do occur.

In addition, why are you blaming Richard? Did he make the entire game? Did he design each quest? Did he alone cause you all your pain when you play this game? A lot of people put their names on projects; chefs, artists, vintners...the list goes on. I personally dont approve of it, but I certainly dont despise anyone for doing so.

The man is wealthy. He likely had rich parents (one was a scientists iirc), he has been in charge of companies since 1980 and has had them bought by/sold to other companies (Like EA, which has deep pockets). To say going to space is eccentric is ok by me, but dont say he is scamming us. Tabula Rasa is a good game, its innovative, and its not a freaking boring grind

mrbojangles25

Let me help you get something straight. I don't care what it is now or online or what you paid for it, I paid $49.99 at Best Buy within a week of release, and paid $14.95 for the next month. That equals roughly $65 for 2 months. It is what I paid, along with many others.

Actually, some couch potatoe who has the bucks CAN go to space. Garriott did not meet regular astronaut requirements, so he knew this was his only way to go to space. Obviously, he undergoes some testing and training like I said before, but you are wayyy off saying years of training. lol There is something called Space Tourism that is just around the corner. Look it up, you said you were just on Space.com. Also, every dollar spent on Tabula Rasa, a portion trickles into his pocket. However he pays for the space flight, you are helping him indirectly. Get it?

Your third paragraph Ill skip b/c I don't see the point. You try and compare all games to being the same clickfest...uh I don't think so.

I blame Richard Garriott b/c this is his product. He put his name on the box, he is ultimately responsible for its success and failure. By him showing he has other priorities, why should i give him the benefit of a doubt that this game will improve? Coach falls if team does terrible, manager is demoted if team underperforms, actor is ridiculed if film does bad, do you need more examples to see my point. It may not be fair, but that is the responsibility he accepted, and now doesn't have time for. By you trying to argue that Garriott shouldn't be held responsible for this mess, you proved you just argue for the sake of arguing, or a Garriott fanboy.

Garriott is a smart person, and has accomplished alot for gaming. But to have his first major release in years, hype about gameplay, and not be 100% into it, probably not even 50%, tells me alot about the future of Tabula Rasa. Expect lackluster support and repetitive gameplay for the next year at least.

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In space no one can hear you scream.
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

First things first. The game costs 30 dollars if you buy it online, 40 at most stores if its a sale. You really have to be either lazy or just a bit on the passive side to spend 50 bucks for it. Second, the game include a free month of play. So its 30 bucks for the game and 30 days, then 15 (or less) per month after that.

Second, space training takes YEARS of preparation. Some couch potatoe cant say "ooh, i got lots of money Im going to space". You have to pass hours of medical testing, and you have to spend years training your body. As such, Richard Garriot has been spending his money to go to space long before he has seen a dime of ours. In addition, if you think the man made 60 million of this game, you dont have a clue how the industry works (I dont know much, but I do know you dont get paid Baseball-star salaries).

As for the game, its fun. Click fest? Hell ya, but so was Diablo, any shooter, any RTS, and for that matter, any MMO. A PC gamer complaining about clicking too much is like a teacher saying he hates talking...its hyprocritical. I have heard that, while the first 15 levels are great, levels 15-30 are a bit of a drag. Thats OK though imo; its an MMO, and while that doesnt give the game a free pass to be lame, it gives it a bit of slack when errors do occur.

In addition, why are you blaming Richard? Did he make the entire game? Did he design each quest? Did he alone cause you all your pain when you play this game? A lot of people put their names on projects; chefs, artists, vintners...the list goes on. I personally dont approve of it, but I certainly dont despise anyone for doing so.

The man is wealthy. He likely had rich parents (one was a scientists iirc), he has been in charge of companies since 1980 and has had them bought by/sold to other companies (Like EA, which has deep pockets). To say going to space is eccentric is ok by me, but dont say he is scamming us. Tabula Rasa is a good game, its innovative, and its not a freaking boring grind

d12malu

1. Let me help you get something straight. I don't care what it is now or online or what you paid for it, I paid $49.99 at Best Buy within a week of release, and paid $14.95 for the next month. That equals roughly $65 for 2 months. It is what I paid, along with many others.

2. Actually, some couch potatoe who has the bucks CAN go to space. Garriott did not meet regular astronaut requirements, so he knew this was his only way to go to space. Obviously, he undergoes some testing and training like I said before, but you are wayyy off saying years of training. lol There is something called Space Tourism that is just around the corner. Look it up, you said you were just on Space.com. Also, every dollar spent on Tabula Rasa, a portion trickles into his pocket. However he pays for the space flight, you are helping him indirectly. Get it?

3. Your third paragraph Ill skip b/c I don't see the point. You try and compare all games to being the same clickfest...uh I don't think so.

4. I blame Richard Garriott b/c this is his product. He put his name on the box, he is ultimately responsible for its success and failure. By him showing he has other priorities, why should i give him the benefit of a doubt that this game will improve? Coach falls if team does terrible, manager is demoted if team underperforms, actor is ridiculed if film does bad, do you need more examples to see my point. It may not be fair, but that is the responsibility he accepted, and now doesn't have time for. By you trying to argue that Garriott shouldn't be held responsible for this mess, you proved you just argue for the sake of arguing, or a Garriott fanboy.

5. Garriott is a smart person, and has accomplished alot for gaming. But to have his first major release in years, hype about gameplay, and not be 100% into it, probably not even 50%, tells me alot about the future of Tabula Rasa. Expect lackluster support and repetitive gameplay for the next year at least.

1. My point was that you paid more for it than you had to. Thats your fault, not Richard's. It doesnt mean youre stupid or anything, its just you made a mistake.

2. Really? So if I had 30+ million I can go on a spaceshuttle, undergo 9 Gs of force, and have no issues concerning nausea in zero-g space? Ive seen shows on it, and it does take years. They make you undergo the same training austronauts undergo.

3. My point is you said TR is a clickfest, and you said this is a bad thing. My point is that if TR being bad because itsa clickfest, then most other games that are click fests (95% of them) must be bad as well.

4. You make a good argument here, especially for other businesses and industries. But the pattern in video seems to be: boss makes game, game sells well, boss sells company to big company, boss makes new company, repeat. And personally, I dont like to scapegoat; I think its a copout to blame the leader of teams. Should we blame a leader because a couple of his people dragged their ass?

5. Hmm...we shall see. It could go either way, Ill give you that. NC Soft, as far as Im concerned, has an excellent record theyre not gonna let this game become/remain a PoS.

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Scam implys fraud in some form,

like you paid $49.99 for a box that claimed to have a game in it,

but was just an empty box.

You didn't.

WoW is expensive too, and IMO pretty useless, but, not a scam.

What you got is a game you didn't enjoy, I have tons =/

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[QUOTE="d12malu"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

First things first. The game costs 30 dollars if you buy it online, 40 at most stores if its a sale. You really have to be either lazy or just a bit on the passive side to spend 50 bucks for it. Second, the game include a free month of play. So its 30 bucks for the game and 30 days, then 15 (or less) per month after that.

Second, space training takes YEARS of preparation. Some couch potatoe cant say "ooh, i got lots of money Im going to space". You have to pass hours of medical testing, and you have to spend years training your body. As such, Richard Garriot has been spending his money to go to space long before he has seen a dime of ours. In addition, if you think the man made 60 million of this game, you dont have a clue how the industry works (I dont know much, but I do know you dont get paid Baseball-star salaries).

As for the game, its fun. Click fest? Hell ya, but so was Diablo, any shooter, any RTS, and for that matter, any MMO. A PC gamer complaining about clicking too much is like a teacher saying he hates talking...its hyprocritical. I have heard that, while the first 15 levels are great, levels 15-30 are a bit of a drag. Thats OK though imo; its an MMO, and while that doesnt give the game a free pass to be lame, it gives it a bit of slack when errors do occur.

In addition, why are you blaming Richard? Did he make the entire game? Did he design each quest? Did he alone cause you all your pain when you play this game? A lot of people put their names on projects; chefs, artists, vintners...the list goes on. I personally dont approve of it, but I certainly dont despise anyone for doing so.

The man is wealthy. He likely had rich parents (one was a scientists iirc), he has been in charge of companies since 1980 and has had them bought by/sold to other companies (Like EA, which has deep pockets). To say going to space is eccentric is ok by me, but dont say he is scamming us. Tabula Rasa is a good game, its innovative, and its not a freaking boring grind

mrbojangles25

1. Let me help you get something straight. I don't care what it is now or online or what you paid for it, I paid $49.99 at Best Buy within a week of release, and paid $14.95 for the next month. That equals roughly $65 for 2 months. It is what I paid, along with many others.

2. Actually, some couch potatoe who has the bucks CAN go to space. Garriott did not meet regular astronaut requirements, so he knew this was his only way to go to space. Obviously, he undergoes some testing and training like I said before, but you are wayyy off saying years of training. lol There is something called Space Tourism that is just around the corner. Look it up, you said you were just on Space.com. Also, every dollar spent on Tabula Rasa, a portion trickles into his pocket. However he pays for the space flight, you are helping him indirectly. Get it?

3. Your third paragraph Ill skip b/c I don't see the point. You try and compare all games to being the same clickfest...uh I don't think so.

4. I blame Richard Garriott b/c this is his product. He put his name on the box, he is ultimately responsible for its success and failure. By him showing he has other priorities, why should i give him the benefit of a doubt that this game will improve? Coach falls if team does terrible, manager is demoted if team underperforms, actor is ridiculed if film does bad, do you need more examples to see my point. It may not be fair, but that is the responsibility he accepted, and now doesn't have time for. By you trying to argue that Garriott shouldn't be held responsible for this mess, you proved you just argue for the sake of arguing, or a Garriott fanboy.

5. Garriott is a smart person, and has accomplished alot for gaming. But to have his first major release in years, hype about gameplay, and not be 100% into it, probably not even 50%, tells me alot about the future of Tabula Rasa. Expect lackluster support and repetitive gameplay for the next year at least.

1. My point was that you paid more for it than you had to. Thats your fault, not Richard's. It doesnt mean youre stupid or anything, its just you made a mistake.

2. Really? So if I had 30+ million I can go on a spaceshuttle, undergo 9 Gs of force, and have no issues concerning nausea in zero-g space? Ive seen shows on it, and it does take years. They make you undergo the same training austronauts undergo.

3. My point is you said TR is a clickfest, and you said this is a bad thing. My point is that if TR being bad because itsa clickfest, then most other games that are click fests (95% of them) must be bad as well.

4. You make a good argument here, especially for other businesses and industries. But the pattern in video seems to be: boss makes game, game sells well, boss sells company to big company, boss makes new company, repeat. And personally, I dont like to scapegoat; I think its a copout to blame the leader of teams. Should we blame a leader because a couple of his people dragged their ass?

5. Hmm...we shall see. It could go either way, Ill give you that. NC Soft, as far as Im concerned, has an excellent record theyre not gonna let this game become/remain a PoS.

I agree, I do like NCSoft and think they are a great company. They will be able to keep this game afloat as long as people are playing, but without direction, it's like a boat lost at sea.

It just shocks me that he would be preparing to go to space during the biggest project he's had in years. Maybe circumstances didnt allow him to wait or maybe this was in the planning stages long before Tabula, I can understand that. But **** happens and by him having his space trip and launch of a new game happening at the same time, it will not make for a good game. Could the game improve? Absolutely. He may come back from space with hands-on knowledge and make Tabula more realistic :) Once Garriott puts his full efforts into it, Tabula can be a great game. But he takes a gamble that his game will have a strong enough fanbase in 2009, so when he settles down back on Earth he can right the ship. I for one, will not stick around during that time, my guess is a mediocre game for awhile, some improvements 1-2 years from now, but too little too late. Game retires to freeware and private servers by 2010. Garriott will say, "I may not have revolutionaized MMOs, but I'll always have outerspace".

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Richard blamed the prolonged beta testing for TR's failure, more details here.

I was part of that beta, and I was dissapointed as well, Richard basically broke his promise in half!

I haven't read all of this, because I have to go to bed soon, but because of the meds I am on, it's hard to get to sleep, but I'm sure this will cheer ya up! I just posted that because I'd basically be quoting him exactly, except it would be long and un-funny.

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I doubt Richard Garriot was very involved at all in the game's development, and I'm sure he has absolutely nothing to do with it's management after release. His name was on it for name recognition. He probably couldn't care less about it.

The man is about to launch into space, and you think he should be concentrating on his videogame.

I just think that's funny. :lol:

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LOL, you are complaining because the guy behind the game is going on vacation soon? This is a joke right? Do you really think he did not have a ton of devs working for him? Do you really think he did all the work on the game himself?
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seems to me that some one is jealous that someone is going on an adventure of a lifetime earnt through a lifetime of hardwork, whilst the other person is sitting in a darkened playing games by his/herself reflecting on why they can't be doing the same thing.
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Regarding Garriots space flight. One of our close family friends is also joining this Russian space flight (and it's only 3million, not 30). However you are not even guarenteed to be on the expedition, your only trained to be a certified astronaught, then your put on a waiting list while the Russians decide who they want to take with them, as there is around a dozen others undergoing the training, yet there isn't that many spaces on the craft.

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#18 d12malu
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seems to me that some one is jealous that someone is going on an adventure of a lifetime earnt through a lifetime of hardwork, whilst the other person is sitting in a darkened playing games by his/herself reflecting on why they can't be doing the same thing.N3xus9

What? Are you that dumb where all you can bring to the table is the jealousy card? Word of advice, stay in school.

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#19 d12malu
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Regarding Garriots space flight. One of our close family friends is also joining this Russian space flight (and it's only 3million, not 30). However you are not even guarenteed to be on the expedition, your only trained to be a certified astronaught, then your put on a waiting list while the Russians decide who they want to take with them, as there is around a dozen others undergoing the training, yet there isn't that many spaces on the craft.

1nverted

Sorry, but you're mis-informed. It is $30 million, not $3 million. You don't train to become a certified astronaut, you train in the basics of space flight for up to a year. You are guaranteed a flight too, Garriott's will be leaving in Oct. 2008. Waiting list? 3 million? not enough space on the craft? What the hell are you talking about?

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#20 weirjf
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[QUOTE="1nverted"]

Regarding Garriots space flight. One of our close family friends is also joining this Russian space flight (and it's only 3million, not 30). However you are not even guarenteed to be on the expedition, your only trained to be a certified astronaught, then your put on a waiting list while the Russians decide who they want to take with them, as there is around a dozen others undergoing the training, yet there isn't that many spaces on the craft.

d12malu

Sorry, but you're mis-informed. It is $30 million, not $3 million. You don't train to become a certified astronaut, you train in the basics of space flight for up to a year. You are guaranteed a flight too, Garriott's will be leaving in Oct. 2008. Waiting list? 3 million? not enough space on the craft? What the hell are you talking about?

the game sucks

who cares

I win

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#22 pablo222X
Member since 2008 • 25 Posts

NO this game is a fraud and a scam! Not only that, I can prove it.

1 in 3 retail box will not launch because of a major bug. NCsoft has no clue how to fix it. I bought the game and was never able to play it because of the problem of not able to create an account and not able to verify the retail box.

I can post lots of Tech support reponses but the end result is that there are lots of people as in hundreds to thousands who spent between $50 and $65 and got taken because they could not even play the game. I am one of those. I have talked with dozens of others who had the same experience. Those that had beta already installed and already had accounts have less of a problem to no problem. I had an account in Eve but could not get the games' code verified. I could not get the game to work in WoW and Steam.

So to put it mildly, This game is a scam and a fraud! THe original poster got it right although through sheer luck and perhaps forethought into what he was seeing in the game forums and help areas about the problems that are getting exponetually out of hand with TR

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#23 N3xus9
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[QUOTE="N3xus9"]seems to me that some one is jealous that someone is going on an adventure of a lifetime earnt through a lifetime of hardwork, whilst the other person is sitting in a darkened playing games by his/herself reflecting on why they can't be doing the same thing.d12malu

What? Are you that dumb where all you can bring to the table is the jealousy card? Word of advice, stay in school.

Congratulations on a trenchant yet effervescent riposte ... I sure feel put in my place.

I will most definitely take heed of your advice and stay in school, for it certainly beats sitting in a darkened room by myself wasting my life playing WoW and Tabula Rasa or what ever your current MMORPG flavour of the day is. That along with the conspiracy theory personality type must really make you a hit with the ladies right?

Who knows, perhaps one day if I stay in school long enough, I too will be able to make enough money off some no-life losers who spend their life playing MMORPG's instead of socialising with real people, the same losers that complain about spending the massive life shattering amount of $65.00 on a game they didn't enjoy ... then perhaps I will be able to go into space just like Richard Garriot.

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#24 DrewTheSchu
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You think this is a scam because the creator of a video game is using his money to go into space, instead of hovering over the developers shoulders 24/7 in austin tx?

And if one man makes the game....why does he need a development team? Do you think that maybe the development team is capable of making decisions on their own?

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#25 goblight
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[QUOTE="d12malu"]

[QUOTE="N3xus9"]seems to me that some one is jealous that someone is going on an adventure of a lifetime earnt through a lifetime of hardwork, whilst the other person is sitting in a darkened playing games by his/herself reflecting on why they can't be doing the same thing.N3xus9

What? Are you that dumb where all you can bring to the table is the jealousy card? Word of advice, stay in school.

Congratulations on a trenchant yet effervescent riposte ... I sure feel put in my place.

I will most definitely take heed of your advice and stay in school, for it certainly beats sitting in a darkened room by myself wasting my life playing WoW and Tabula Rasa or what ever your current MMORPG flavour of the day is. That along with the conspiracy theory personality type must really make you a hit with the ladies right?

Who knows, perhaps one day if I stay in school long enough, I too will be able to make enough money off some no-life losers who spend their life playing MMORPG's instead of socialising with real people, the same losers that complain about spending the massive life shattering amount of $65.00 on a game they didn't enjoy ... then perhaps I will be able to go into space just like Richard Garriot.

{giggle}

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#26 steve8198
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Tabula Rasa is a great game quit your crying cry baby go play WoW.
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#27 fenriz275
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Let me get this straight? You are shocked and outraged that a game didn't live up to the developer's claims? So I'm assuming that you've been living under a rock for the last 20 years. Seriously, you bought a game that sucked and now you're whining. Get over it, we've all spent cash on games that were nothing like the hype. Stop b****ing because you fell for the ad campaign. I remember seeing films that promised we'd all be driving flying cars by the year 2000, who do I sue because of that? Maybe I'll just start a thread p****** and m****** about that here. This thread has made my day. I'm playing a tiny violin for you man, seriously. :lol: