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#1 omerdv
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How do you think it will be? I hope they'll do a great job like they did in oblivion, 'cause was so good....:D

Is there a name already for it or anything?

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#2 loismustdie47
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I think it will totally suck and be called Elder Scrolls V.
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#3 animateria
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They probably will launch a couple expansions before even thinking about it.
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#4 Planeforger
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Going by the current trend in the series, The Elder Scrolls V will...

  • Have amazing graphics.
  • Have Dark Messiah-quality combat.
  • Consist of a small area of land with only a handful of towns in it.
  • Only have one weapon skill, and many of the other skills will be cut out.
  • Only have about two guilds.
  • Have the option to auto-complete quests.
  • Have no dialogue options whatsoever.
  • Have absolutely no distinctions between characters races/professions/etc.
  • Be set in an even more boring environment.
  • Be completable before you've even picked your skills/professions/etc.
  • Make character skills even more redundant.
  • Have thousands of empty, generic dungeons.
  • Have no artifacts/ultra-powerful items.
  • Have no enchantments whatsoever, and less spells than ever before.

Basically, it will suck even more than Oblivion, but probably less than Fallout 3.
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#5 Judza
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Going by the current trend in the series, The Elder Scrolls V will...

  • Have amazing graphics.
  • Have Dark Messiah-quality combat.
  • Consist of a small area of land with only a handful of towns in it.
  • Only have one weapon skill, and many of the other skills will be cut out.
  • Only have about two guilds.
  • Have the option to auto-complete quests.
  • Have no dialogue options whatsoever.
  • Have absolutely no distinctions between characters races/professions/etc.
  • Be set in an even more boring environment.
  • Be completable before you've even picked your skills/professions/etc.
  • Make character skills even more redundant.
  • Have thousands of empty, generic dungeons.
  • Have no artifacts/ultra-powerful items.
  • Have no enchantments whatsoever, and less spells than ever before.


Basically, it will suck even more than Oblivion, but probably less than Fallout 3.Planeforger

I see the trend there.

As for me, probably the same.

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#6 omerdv
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[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

Going by the current trend in the series, The Elder Scrolls V will...

  • Have amazing graphics.
  • Have Dark Messiah-quality combat.
  • Consist of a small area of land with only a handful of towns in it.
  • Only have one weapon skill, and many of the other skills will be cut out.
  • Only have about two guilds.
  • Have the option to auto-complete quests.
  • Have no dialogue options whatsoever.
  • Have absolutely no distinctions between characters races/professions/etc.
  • Be set in an even more boring environment.
  • Be completable before you've even picked your skills/professions/etc.
  • Make character skills even more redundant.
  • Have thousands of empty, generic dungeons.
  • Have no artifacts/ultra-powerful items.
  • Have no enchantments whatsoever, and less spells than ever before.


Basically, it will suck even more than Oblivion, but probably less than Fallout 3.Judza

I see the trend there.

As for me, probably the same.

So you guys hate the elder scrolls series huh? maybe you played morrowind before you played oblivion but I played oblivion first and it didn't dissapoint me like it did to you....

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#7 1005
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I do look forward to a new ElderScrolls game assuming they do the following to it...

- Make a decent main quest storyline, Oblivion's was fun for so long then after going into my third oblivion gate i became bored, frustrated and used cheats to close the gates. It was not fun, and to be honest unless you actually went close to the Oblivion gates you wouldn't really have noticed the Deadra's presence in Tamrial.

- Add sidequests that are fun and interesting and make you want to finish them and not just complete them for the sake of it. I found in Oblivion the only sidequests i genuinely wanted to complete were the DarkBrotherhood ones, the others got boring and repetitive.

- Change the style of gameplay from "raid dungeon A to find or kill person/object X then go to dungeon B and do the same". I don't know about anyone else but i ******* hate raiding dungeons especially when its the only thing you can do. Oblivion had such a massive world to explore but all you found were hundreds of ruined castles and caves with the same enemies inside. For once i'd like to attack one of the castles i found and lay siege to it and the occupants inside instead of enter its dungeons.

- Impliment mounted combat like using swords, spears, bows etc and add specific skills for the player to level up in so their attacks become more damaging. Also by adding this they could then add a nice mini game, jousting!

- Improve becoming a vampire so it isn't crap like it was in Oblivion. Also add in the option to become a werewolf aswell, this would open up the possibility to carry out missions for either side in the secret war between the two. Yes it sounds like an Underworld ripoff, but i'd like it in a game :P!

- Add more unique weapons and items for us to play with, Oblivion had a nice lot but they all used the same model but with different stats.

- Allow you to start your own guild, group, adventuring party of mercenaries who you recruit and then have train at a building you can purchase and upgrade. As you become larger and more stronger your fame increases and you begin rivalries with opposing guilds etc.

- Have NPC's travelling the roads on horse or by foot, increase the amount of villages dotted around the map, have NPC's fishing and fighting one another more often, increase the number of wild animals etc to make the gameworld feel more alive.

Now i've typed up a pretty big list, most of which i think there are mods for in Oblivion, but i felt i had to say them here regardless lol.

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#8 lucky326
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Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim according to the Trademark site place and judging on how long it usually takes look to around late 09/early 10 for release of it.
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#9 F4ll3n_1
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Well, it was confirmed after Oblivions launch that there WILL be another TES Game, but.....with no other details but that.

My predictions are;

+ They'll go way back in time to another period before Morrowind

+ They'll go forward from Oblivion into one of the surrounding lands, perhaps Hammerfell or one of the other adjoining regions.

+If they have that scaled looting crap, the game will suck.

+If its more like morrowind;darker, more sinister, non-scaled looting (because that sucked the fun out of it)then the game will succeed.

+The graphics will be beyond believeable.

+Yet they'll still manage to keep the specs modest.

oh, and most of what Planeforger wrote. And i did play morrowind first, hence why oblivion disappointed me.

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#10 Johnny_Rock
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[QUOTE="Judza"][QUOTE="Planeforger"]

Going by the current trend in the series, The Elder Scrolls V will...

  • Have amazing graphics.
  • Have Dark Messiah-quality combat.
  • Consist of a small area of land with only a handful of towns in it.
  • Only have one weapon skill, and many of the other skills will be cut out.
  • Only have about two guilds.
  • Have the option to auto-complete quests.
  • Have no dialogue options whatsoever.
  • Have absolutely no distinctions between characters races/professions/etc.
  • Be set in an even more boring environment.
  • Be completable before you've even picked your skills/professions/etc.
  • Make character skills even more redundant.
  • Have thousands of empty, generic dungeons.
  • Have no artifacts/ultra-powerful items.
  • Have no enchantments whatsoever, and less spells than ever before.


Basically, it will suck even more than Oblivion, but probably less than Fallout 3.omerdv

I see the trend there.

As for me, probably the same.

So you guys hate the elder scrolls series huh? maybe you played morrowind before you played oblivion but I played oblivion first and it didn't dissapoint me like it did to you....

No, not the series. Just Oblivion. The series has been slowly going down in quality as the graphics get better.

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#11 cos_vanquish
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I'm still waiting for the day that Elder Scrolls goes MMO.

I just think it would be fun going online with it, maybe have at least 15 people to a server or something, possibly more. And get little 4 to 5 man groups and just go questing and things of that nature.

I really don't have any predictions for part V, as my predicitions for what IV was going to be were trashed and walked all over with Oblivion. So, I don't want to make any for part V as they will just go way below what I have predicted.

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#12 GenericFanboy
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Oblivion had a different appeal from the Morrowind, Daggerfall, Arena but it was still an excellent game and the mods for the game fix almost alll the problems.

I'm not getting Fallout 3 for one reason: Post-Apocalyse scrares me ever since I watched Threads (watch it on Youtube!).

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#13 omerdv
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I'm still waiting for the day that Elder Scrolls goes MMO.

I just think it would be fun going online with it, maybe have at least 15 people to a server or something, possibly more. And get little 4 to 5 man groups and just go questing and things of that nature.

I really don't have any predictions for part V, as my predicitions for what IV was going to be were trashed and walked all over with Oblivion. So, I don't want to make any for part V as they will just go way below what I have predicted.

cos_vanquish

There's a multiplayer mod for it.... but it ony supports lan and only up to 2 players that I think battle each other and not really questing or something like that....is "questing" even a word?

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#14 cos_vanquish
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[QUOTE="cos_vanquish"]

I'm still waiting for the day that Elder Scrolls goes MMO.

I just think it would be fun going online with it, maybe have at least 15 people to a server or something, possibly more. And get little 4 to 5 man groups and just go questing and things of that nature.

I really don't have any predictions for part V, as my predicitions for what IV was going to be were trashed and walked all over with Oblivion. So, I don't want to make any for part V as they will just go way below what I have predicted.

omerdv

There's a multiplayer mod for it.... but it ony supports lan and only up to 2 players that I think battle each other and not really questing or something like that....is "questing" even a word?

Yeah, it's a word. And that mod is pretty lame. I mean, it makes sense and could be fun on its own, but I wanted different things out of it. I really enjoy the thought of a group going out on adventures together and love the feel of mmorpg's, that's why I wish Morrowind would have supported that. If only they supported that feature, they could make a lot more money. And companies today never complain about maximizing their revenue.

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I'm still waiting for the day that Elder Scrolls goes MMO.

cos_vanquish

Yes, I wanted to say that first but you beat me to it. It would be so awesome as an MMORPG. It would be just like any other MMORPG! In other words: AWESOME! It would be everything Oblivion is right now, except without the huge continues open-ended map, without the wild life, without any quests. And no story! Who wants story anyway? The combat system will be even more simple and even faster paced! The simplistic skill tree from Oblivion will be gone! Yes, that's right! Instead we'll get a more complex skill system with 2 fixed skill paths: 1 for warriors and 1 mages! Levels of NPC's will NOT be scaled! It will be totally realistic. Let me explain: Before you can leave the first city that you start in, you would have to kill 100 rats to reach level 2. And to keep the feel of the oldschool RPG genre, the rats will be inside a gigantic basement! After you've done that you must kill 200 zombies at the cemetary. If you don't do all of that first, you won't stand a chance against those 500 bandits that are outside the city gate! And the AI will be smarter then ever! Instead of trying to attack you and get themselves killed, they will wander around aimlessly in circles because they already know they'll lose and die eventually anyway! But the best feature is going to be: No crappy roleplaying! HOORAH! Elder Scrolls Online! AWESOME!

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#16 cos_vanquish
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[QUOTE="cos_vanquish"]

I'm still waiting for the day that Elder Scrolls goes MMO.

BlackAlpha666

Yes, I wanted to say that first but you beat me to it. It would be so awesome as an MMORPG. It would be just like any other MMORPG! In other words: AWESOME! It would be everything Oblivion is right now, except without the huge continues open-ended map, without the wild life, without any quests. And no story! Who wants story anyway? The combat system will be even more simple and even faster paced! The simplistic skill tree from Oblivion will be gone! Yes, that's right! Instead we'll get a more complex skill system with 2 fixed skill paths: 1 for warriors and 1 mages! Levels of NPC's will NOT be scaled! It will be totally realistic. Let me explain: Before you can leave the first city that you start in, you would have to kill 100 rats to reach level 2. And to keep the feel of the oldschool RPG genre, the rats will be inside a gigantic basement! After you've done that you must kill 200 zombies at the cemetary. If you don't do all of that first, you won't stand a chance against those 500 bandits that are outside the city gate! And the AI will be smarter then ever! Instead of trying to attack you and get themselves killed, they will wander around aimlessly in circles because they already know they'll lose and die eventually anyway! But the best feature is going to be: No crappy roleplaying! HOORAH! Elder Scrolls Online! AWESOME!

]

That's pretty much the exact opposite in every sense of what I had in mind for it becoming an MMO. Why on earth would they want to make every mistake that every other MMO has already made. Take it one step further and succeed where others have failed.

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i just want everything to run a little smoother the game was kind of glitchy i no its a huge free roamimg world but i have higher expections for V thats probaly the only thing i can thing of that needs to be better

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#18 BlackAlpha666
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[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"][QUOTE="cos_vanquish"]

I'm still waiting for the day that Elder Scrolls goes MMO.

cos_vanquish

Yes, I wanted to say that first but you beat me to it. It would be so awesome as an MMORPG. It would be just like any other MMORPG! In other words: AWESOME! It would be everything Oblivion is right now, except without the huge continues open-ended map, without the wild life, without any quests. And no story! Who wants story anyway? The combat system will be even more simple and even faster paced! The simplistic skill tree from Oblivion will be gone! Yes, that's right! Instead we'll get a more complex skill system with 2 fixed skill paths: 1 for warriors and 1 mages! Levels of NPC's will NOT be scaled! It will be totally realistic. Let me explain: Before you can leave the first city that you start in, you would have to kill 100 rats to reach level 2. And to keep the feel of the oldschool RPG genre, the rats will be inside a gigantic basement! After you've done that you must kill 200 zombies at the cemetary. If you don't do all of that first, you won't stand a chance against those 500 bandits that are outside the city gate! And the AI will be smarter then ever! Instead of trying to attack you and get themselves killed, they will wander around aimlessly in circles because they already know they'll lose and die eventually anyway! But the best feature is going to be: No crappy roleplaying! HOORAH! Elder Scrolls Online! AWESOME!

]

That's pretty much the exact opposite in every sense of what I had in mind for it becoming an MMO. Why on earth would they want to make every mistake that every other MMO has already made. Take it one step further and succeed where others have failed.

Every MMORPG game that comes out has the same mistakes. It's like the developers don't want the MMORPG genre to improve.

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#19 _Pedro_
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[QUOTE="omerdv"][QUOTE="Judza"][QUOTE="Planeforger"]

Going by the current trend in the series, The Elder Scrolls V will...

  • Have amazing graphics.
  • Have Dark Messiah-quality combat.
  • Consist of a small area of land with only a handful of towns in it.
  • Only have one weapon skill, and many of the other skills will be cut out.
  • Only have about two guilds.
  • Have the option to auto-complete quests.
  • Have no dialogue options whatsoever.
  • Have absolutely no distinctions between characters races/professions/etc.
  • Be set in an even more boring environment.
  • Be completable before you've even picked your skills/professions/etc.
  • Make character skills even more redundant.
  • Have thousands of empty, generic dungeons.
  • Have no artifacts/ultra-powerful items.
  • Have no enchantments whatsoever, and less spells than ever before.


Basically, it will suck even more than Oblivion, but probably less than Fallout 3.Johnny_Rock

I see the trend there.

As for me, probably the same.

So you guys hate the elder scrolls series huh? maybe you played morrowind before you played oblivion but I played oblivion first and it didn't dissapoint me like it did to you....

No, not the series. Just Oblivion. The series has been slowly going down in quality as the graphics get better.

Agree. The jump from 10000 NPC's to a mere 500 from daggerfall to morrowind was a big shock. Still atleast morrowind added a bit more depth to the NPC's.

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It would be nice if they didn't hve levels just skills and ranks, that way you'll be able to gain the main stats (Hp, Mana, Endurance) by surviving battles (like armor skill contributes to HP count), defeating enemeis (Intellect/Spell types contribute to mana), and traveling (Athletics/Acrobatics etc contribute to endurance).
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#21 w7w7w7w7w7
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Fallout 3 > Elder Scrolls V
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#22 Herrick
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Oblivion scored well and was very successful so I'm not sure if they'll make the next one more "hardcore". I just hope they don't simplify it even more.

And yes, I liked Oblivion a lot.

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I hope it's nothing like Oblivion because Oblivion sucked. I hope they make it more like daggerfall and Morrowind and go up in replayability rather than down to zero.
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#25 nick1689
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Fallout 3 > Elder Scrolls Vw7w7w7w7w7

Huh? They havent even announced the next Elder Scroll game and you're judging it already? Oblivion was proabaly one of the most popular PC games of the last decade, there is no denying that. There also hasnt been hardly any gameplay footage of Fallout 3 and you're still judging? GG noob