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#1 w4rrior17
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... that is still active today, and will be around a few years down the road. What would you say fits that description best?

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#2 Kaisos
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everyone will say Counter Stike, I have no idea which fps takes the most skill but TF2 doing a premade with 2 clans facing off can get pretty intense.

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#3 ekultus
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TF2 is the bomb!!!

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#4 THA-TODD-BEAST
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Yep, TF2 without a shadow of a doubt.

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#5 dakan45
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Well counter srtike, unreal tournament is dead so i put tf2 at second place and cod4/mw2/bad company 2/l4d at the third place which changes all the time regarding what comes out and how good is it.
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#6 KHAndAnime
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Counter-Strike. It's the king of competitive online FPS games.
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#7 kdawg88
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Quake Live Team Fortress 2 Counter-Strike Unreal Tournament 2004 (it's still reasonably active)
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#8 GeryGo  Moderator
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CS 1.6/Source

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#9 Lemonio
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tf2

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#10 RareMonkey
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I don't understand the love for TF2, it is one of the most spammy and dull FPS games out on PC atm.

BF2 is stll number one in terms of skill gap between a squad of noobs and a squad of veterans.

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#11 millerlight89
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MW2 is a really heavy on skills.
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#12 kdawg88
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I don't understand the love for TF2, it is one of the most spammy and dull FPS games out on PC atm.

BF2 is stll number one in terms of skill gap between a squad of noobs and a squad of veterans.

RareMonkey
Level design is simpler, but it is equally as tactical.
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After playing quake live for 10 minutes.......i would go with the quake series......i got my ass handed to me faster than ever.
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#14 Mograine
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BF2 is stll number one in terms of skill gap between a squad of noobs and a squad of veterans.

RareMonkey

No, that title belongs to one of the Unreal Tournaments.

Counterstrike is the correct answer.

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#15 millerlight89
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Counterstrike is the correct answer.

Mograine

Glad we have someone here that can think for everyone. Though I will pass I like to think on my own.

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#16 Bird_Killer
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Definitely Counter-Strike

It's accessible (you don't need much of a hardware to run CS 1.6 or CS:Source)

It still has a huge player and fan base

It's notorious for its culture and history

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#17 Mograine
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Glad we have someone here that can think for everyone. Though I will pass I like to think on my own.

millerlight89

Your point?

Competitiveness and skill-based play are objective values. You do not "argue" them.

Just like everyone would agree that the pinnacle of skill based RTS is StarCraft, everyone would also agree that the pinnacle of skill based FPSs is one of the other games mentioned by kdawg88, although CS is always the first that comes to mind.

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#18 nutcrackr
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I was going to say Q3A, UT or Counter-strike but my answer would be Tribes without any doubt.

Starsiege Tribes is a very high skilled game with a long learning curve. Accuracy, vision, energy management, speed, map layout, judgement are crucial. Most importantly you are pretty much always thinking about things above and below you. Definitely the pinnacle of mp gaming.

Tribes isn't very active though, still a few players stick around.

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#19 flukki
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I too think it's CS I've never played it though (all time quaker)
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#20 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="flukki"]I too think it's CS I've never played it though (all time quaker)

How can you say it is, but have not played it?
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#21 flukki
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="flukki"]I too think it's CS I've never played it though (all time quaker)

How can you say it is, but have not played it?

Why must I've played it before to say it's the pinacle of competitive FPS? Look around all the professional e-leagues, CS is in the top of FPS games since many many years, and no end in sight. I may be incorrect, but the top pro FPS players earn their money with CS, it's were the most competitions and tourneys are held. That's proof enough for me. :)
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To the CS anwers: is really the game as skill demanding as to master the Shock Rifle in UT series or the rocket and grenade launchers in Quake series? As long as I known Counter Strike doesn't even have strafe moves, and the game uses hitscan in almost any weapon, that is way more easy to use than weapons in which the projectiles have different speed traveling around the maps.

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#23 Farkeman
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cs 1.6 didnt really takes skill , in other hand css was realy skill based game , till people discovered that sniper rifles are ultimate , now there is 80% of snipers / quickscopers and other 20% that cant afford snipers ... its tf2 or bf bc2 , tf2 takes time to master atleast one class , but 1 class is not enough , every good player should atleast master 3 classes ... bf bc2 wins anyway , for now its the king of skill based fps games ! ! aw and mw2 takes no freakin skill , for being good at that game you only need to know how to camp or know how to flank and spawn trap , thats all you need to know in this most unbalanced game in entire Fps history ...
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#24 Anarchist-TKC-1
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CSS - I hated being headshot every 5 seconds in that game. I played it for a while, but I really detest the spawn, shoot, die games. Skill or cheats won that game for you. BF2 - it's about having a good team, but you could sometimes solo to the spawn points and fend off a few attacks whilst your team turns up BC2 - kinda like BF2, but smaller maps, thus it depends greatly on having a good team. MW2 - you need to be the first to see the target, then it's dead... no skill required
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#25 Mograine
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To the CS anwers: is really the game as skill demanding as to master the Shock Rifle in UT series or the rocket and grenade launchers in Quake series? As long as I known Counter Strike doesn't even have strafe moves, and the game uses hitscan in almost any weapon, that is way more easy to use than weapons in which the projectiles have different speed traveling around the maps.

Ondoval

TC also asked with a still active community. I don't have it installed anymore so I can't check, but as far as I remember a lot of the UT community went away when UT3 was released.

Other than that, I agree.

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#26 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

To the CS anwers: is really the game as skill demanding as to master the Shock Rifle in UT series or the rocket and grenade launchers in Quake series? As long as I known Counter Strike doesn't even have strafe moves, and the game uses hitscan in almost any weapon, that is way more easy to use than weapons in which the projectiles have different speed traveling around the maps.

Mograine

TC also asked with a still active community. I don't have it installed anymore so I can't check, but as far as I remember a lot of the UT community went away when UT3 was released.

Other than that, I agree.

No they stuck with UT2K4
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[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="Ondoval"]

To the CS anwers: is really the game as skill demanding as to master the Shock Rifle in UT series or the rocket and grenade launchers in Quake series? As long as I known Counter Strike doesn't even have strafe moves, and the game uses hitscan in almost any weapon, that is way more easy to use than weapons in which the projectiles have different speed traveling around the maps.

millerlight89

TC also asked with a still active community. I don't have it installed anymore so I can't check, but as far as I remember a lot of the UT community went away when UT3 was released.

Other than that, I agree.

No they stuck with UT2K4

someone that gets it, did they really expect people to switch to an inferior game?
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#28 Shuraijuro
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... that is still active today, and will be around a few years down the road. What would you say fits that description best?

w4rrior17

Quakelive period end of story go shove countercamp up your butt, and Team Fortress Console up your butt too. No jk they are all great gams, CS:source is great especially for zombie mods, and TF2 is jsut all out fun. But Quakelive pretty much destroys every FPS in terms of skill gap, speed and No-Lifeism.

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#29 1kalli1
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You guys clearly know little about competitive gaming, Cs 1,6 is the king, Quake live/ TF2/CSS then COD4 and BC2 is getting some players.

MW2 is not a competitive game.

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#30 takeiteazy3
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TF2 no doubt
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[QUOTE="w4rrior17"]

... that is still active today, and will be around a few years down the road. What would you say fits that description best?

Shuraijuro

Quakelive period end of story go shove countercamp up your butt, and Team Fortress Console up your butt too. No jk they are all great gams, CS:source is great especially for zombie mods, and TF2 is jsut all out fun. But Quakelive pretty much destroys every FPS in terms of skill gap, speed and No-Lifeism.

Naaaahhh....they're all pretty equal in terms of 'no-lifesm' (nods head at innovative new term).
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#32 kdawg88
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You guys clearly know little about competitive gaming, Cs 1,6 is the king, Quake live/ TF2/CSS then COD4 and BC2 is getting some players.

MW2 is not a competitive game.

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Yes I think that is the general consensus.
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#33 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Quakeworld, what other FPS still has a strong following after nearly 15 years and is the reason we have arena FPS today?

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#34 scotty992
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Counter Strike only game Ive played competitively.

You can win ALOT of money if you got skills.

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#35 ironman388
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anything but quake3A/quake live is the wrong answer

i have been playing for 1-2 years and i still suck, but in CSS i got pretty decent in about a few months of lots of playing. quake is just so fast and requires ridiculous amounts of precision. also you need to master every weapon unlike CSS where you master the ak, m4, awp and deagle and your pretty good to go (i still suck at CSS, but not as much as i suck at quake)

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#36 deactivated-64b7010800769
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MW2 is a really heavy on skills.millerlight89
Um, yeah. Sure.
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#37 gandaf007
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I'm going with Battlefield 2.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]MW2 is a really heavy on skills.athenian29
Um, yeah. Sure.

It is called a joke.
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Starsiege Tribes is a very high skilled game with a long learning curve. Accuracy, vision, energy management, speed, map layout, judgement are crucial. Most importantly you are pretty much always thinking about things above and below you. Definitely the pinnacle of mp gaming.

Tribes isn't very active though, still a few players stick around.

nutcrackr

tribes was crazy back in the day I still can't believe no game still come close to it in term of skills required.

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BC2, extremely hard to get a high K:D ratio when on the front-lines.
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CS, TF2!
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#42 jtickner
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I'm going to say Team Fortress 2. TF2 took me hours and hours to get good at and that's one of the things I enjoyed most. It really is a great, rewarding feeling when you get to the stage of topping leaderboards and steam rolling people. Too bad the updates ended up turning a good thing into a bad thing.

TF2 will be sorely missed by myself and many others :( *cries in the corner*