The Witcher or Fallout 3?

[QUOTE="doyousmellthat"][QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="HummaKavula"][QUOTE="smerlus"]

Did you just say clicking on a target over and over again is better combat than a decent shooter/melee game?

The Witcher has sorry voice overs, is loaded with simple fetch quests...the best thing about the game is the decisions have consequences no one can predict and often occur much later in the game.

smerlus

Hate to break it to ya but Fallout 3's voice acting isn't exactly great either.

I'd go with Fallout 3, though.

Geralt's voice and dialogue alone is worse than any 20 characters you say have bad acting in fallout 3.

LOL, wow, fanboy much? Totally false, bethesda always has had bad voice acting, oblivion and FO3 are full of it along with average dialog. Geralts Voice was perfect for teh character. They recycled many of the same voice overs from oblivion.

I'd take average dialogue over bad voice acting and GTA dialogue in a fantasy setting. Is it really that cool to have this much swearing in a sword and sorcery setting? All the F bombs and other curse words feel about as authentic as a contact in GTA IV saying "Thou art worthy of this AK, Now go forth and unleash your hellish fury upon the beasts of the land my child"

LOL, that happens very rarely, and once again, fixed in EE edition. Sperwing more BS.

[QUOTE="smerlus"]

[QUOTE="succulent_toes"]I've only played like two hours on each, and so far, I have to say that The Witcher is a thousand times better than Fallout 3. Fallout 3 has ass combat and terrible writing and fugly graphics; it does give you many meaningful choices to make, but I don't think that's enough to make it a good role-playing game. After all, choices don't make a GOOD role-playing game; they just make it a role-playing game. If the writing sucks, there's not much that can save it from being terrible except the combat, and, as I mentioned, the combat in Fallout 3 is terrible. The Witcher, on the other hand, seems to have at least better combat, and I hear that the writing has been polished for the enhanced version (though I can't attest to this personally). I'd definitely go with The Witcher, though I'm sure many people will disagree with my opinions on Fallout 3.doyousmellthat

Did you just say clicking on a target over and over again is better combat than a decent shooter/melee game?

The Witcher has sorry voice overs, is loaded with simple fetch quests...the best thing about the game is the decisions have consequences no one can predict and often occur much later in the game.

Did u just say the Witcher is simple Fetch quests? Did you play it or just like talking out of your butt, many side quests branch off in multiple paths with multiple ways to complete them, with each way having its own set of consequence. The voice overs have been fixed (EEE edition), you have no clue what you are talking about. combat is just clicking? You can sue signs, do flips, use potions as well, Fallout 3 at the end of the day is just clicking as well last i checked. The Combat is unique for an RPG, many enjoyed it. Also, some of the best RPG's ever are just point and click. The Withcer is easily one of the best RPG's of the last few years.

No i Siad the main quests involve great decisions and the side missions are a bunch of fetch quests and kill X number of creatures. Look at a guide of just act 1 alone and you'll see that there are 7 side quests. 1 isn't able to completed in that act, 1 is go fetch proof of something, there's 3 kill x number of animal quests and 2 other quests.

so there's 6 quests that can be completed 4 of which are fetch or kill x number of monster quests. I said the game's sidequests mostly consist of these and I think 66% is proof of that.

really? Post one link to a review that says this is the case? You are the one who needs perspective, you are jamming your biased opinion down peopels throats, but the poll says it all, msot say the Witcher, and the witcher won RPG of the year by USER VOTES. What gamers think matters more then reviews att he end of the day. The dialog was great, what game did yuo play, reviews say how good it si, the only issue was the poor english translation, which has been fixed in EE. Educate yuorself beofre posting. tell me how you know what the devs think? Dialog in The Witcher is better then mosr RPG's around. Certainly better then anything Bethesda has made.

doyousmellthat

Here's a quote from gamespot

"The game is still a lot more modern sounding than some would probably like, throwing around F-bombs and curse words in ways that just don't seem to fit with swords and sorcery"

Gamernode says this about the EE version.

"The biggest and best change is easily the inclusion of native and multiple audio tracks to chose from. Much like foreign films and television shows, sometimes the original voice actors just do a better job of conveying the emotion and mood of the character; The Witcher is no exception. With the inclusion of the original audio track (and multiple other languages) along with English subtitles, finally we can play the game without the awful English dubbing the original release forced us to endure. If only all foreign releases gave audiences the choice between English dub or sub"

and 1up had this to say

"I'm not gonna lie: I like anime. And when I watch anime, I watch it with the original Japanese voice actors, in the original language. Why? Because the American voice actors typically suck like a hole in the fuselage of a 747 at 50,000 feet. And, as we all know, the same is oh-so true of videogames."

Hmmm the 3 website I checked out all said that the voice acting sucks and the dialogue is strange for the setting. Would you like more examples or am i done "Educating yuorself beofre posting"?

so how are you proving me wrong again? I'll say this once more. quite calling me a fanboy when you're the one that is acting like the EE is a perfect game. All it did is make a game finally make sense and used the same crappy voice actors it had before for the most part. It smoothed out framerate, the combat is still point and click. You can tell me how great it is to do flips but maybe if the flips was actually a different button than the left mouse button, you'd have a point, but it's not and it's just clicking that automatically changes the animation.

You ahve potions in The Witcher, Fallout 3 has drugs. You have like 8 different weapons and three different styles that all amount to clicking on a character, in Fallout 3 I can click to shoot, I can go to VATS and pick the part I want to shoot (which still amounts to clicking in the long run but the end result is prettier) or I can lay traps all around an area, lure creatures to areas with other foes and have them fight it out or redo environmental traps that are already in the area and I have a larger selection of weapons to do this with and the inclusion of a stealth mechanic.

So lets see, Diablo with a rhythm pattern with spells or shooting, stealth melee, setting traps, luring enemies to other foes...hmmm one of them just sounds more interesting and varied.

The problem is I'll admit the shortcomings of Fallout 3. The dialogue is average but it fits the time period, the voice acting is decent. The FPS elements aren't as sharp as a FPS game's but that's because there are a bunch of stats thrown in and the combat improves with experience. The animations are stiff, Still don't like how Raiders in the wild are always automatically agressive for the most part

So when are you guys going to stop acting like The Witcher is a perfect game?

Sigh, name one RPG that has side quests that do not involve some fetch quests, they are optional, most of oblivion was like this, BUT, there are plenty of side quests that also offer much depth (like blue eyes), and can be solved many ways. no game is perfect, like fallout 3's terrible character animation and lack of memorable characters and averaging wwriting. You are saying because the game is not perfect it is bad? Every game has faults, but The wiitcher is so good it is greatd despite them. The poll results show it all, you are in the minority, because you say it does not make it so. doyousmellthat

fact is, the poll is far from scientific. You have posters on both sides saying they never played the other game but they're voting for thier favorite. You have one guy that said he played both for a small amount of time, they were both boring but he picked one over the other. You have the fact that the OP stated that he already has access to the one so he could just be playing Fallout 3 as we speak without the need to purchase it then there's also the fact that this PC was full of people just a week ago calling Fallout 3 garbage for the last 8 months, if I wanted to get an honest opinion of Obama, I wouldn't poll a skinhead message board. There's no doubt in my mind that The Witcher is going to win the polls however I think I'm one of the few people that actually stated reasons behind the choice. I didn't start off saying one game sucked and the other game is much better and I haven't made any crazy claims about Fallout 3 that weren't true like voice acting actually being good. I've explained my position from the start and have been met with people calling me a fanboy, saying i haven't played the games or that people were going to just ignore my posts and hardly anyone actually trying to have a discussion on which game is better.

you're right, I think every single RPG has fetching sidequests, I'm not going to deny that but like I said, the majority of sidequests in The Witcher are fetch quests. That doesn't mean the other sidequests suck or you have to play these boring quests. It just means the majority of filler in this game is nothing more than going to a certain place and killing this amount of animals or grabbing an item.

[QUOTE="chesterocks7"]Well I REALLY like what I've seen so far from Fallout 3, but I've heard a lot of people say that The Witcher was one of the best RPG's they've ever played. So yeah I'm pretty split between them. I'll probably make my final choice once I finish Far Cry 2.smerlus

the Witcher was one of the better RPG's that had come out in a while. However the combat is one of the worst aspects of the game second only to the voice acting (they said that was fixed up in the EE version) the thing is does the best is that the decisions you make aren't the typical good/evil choices. you're often presented with a problem that seems rather evenly two sided but which ever side you pick has far reaching consequences that are hard to predict and often happen so far later in the game that it's too difficult to just reload and try another route.

Then depending on what difficulty you put it on, the alchemy portion is either useless or key to survival. Most of the quests involve killing a certain number of creatures, finding certain plants and junk like that.

Fallout 3 suffers from something totally different. You have people that hated Oblivion and fans of Fallout 1 and 2 saying the game was crap since it was announced a few years back. Now that the game has turned out fine in many people's eyes and is actually a better RPG than even Morrowind, these naysayer's egos won't let them say anything good about the game and often times you'll get posts like the one above saying the combat sucks.

I'm sorry about choosing between a silver sword or another weapon and 3 of the same combat styles for each then clicking on a character to a timed pattern is not better than scavenging for items to repair your many types of guns, explosives and melee weapons and fighting in real time or VATS. Many reviews both professional and user say The Witcher's combat is dull and tedious.

Completely agree regarding The Wtichers combat. I only played an hour or two of the game, but the combat was absolutely horrid in my eyes. Felt like playing the same "timing mini game" over and over and over...the wierd thing is I love games like Diablo and Titans Quests. The Wticher did seem to have a really nice presentation of the story and mature theme...and for the most part I thought it was a good game...just the combat was awefull in my opinion...and after two hours or so I just couldn't stomach the game any further.

Fallout 3, on the other hand, is an amazing game. I actually didn't have any expectations and was one of the people who were completely underwhelmed with vanilla Oblivion. Fallout 3 really impressed me though. I have been playing every chance I get non stop.

I think Fallout 3's quests are great and vary in structure. Some of them are really imaginitive too, and there is a lot of consequence as well.

You have been called a fanboy because instead of just posting your opinion, when someone says something good about the witcher, you keep posting as if you are right, the fact is most people think the witcher is a great RPG. Most of its quests are NOT fetch quests, only those you can get off bulletin boards for extra cash. Every game has nit picks, fact is, the Witcher is such a great game they are minor in comparison. You have a hard time understanding that most people disagree with you, so you keep trolling this thread. There is more depth in most of the main story quests alone then most RPG's, that alone makes it a splendid RPG. if you don't liek it fine, but don't keep trolling about voice overs and fetch quests, as that hardly makes it a bad RPG, as most RPG's are fetch quests, and bethedda RPG's hardly have good voice, dialog. in fact, the witchers dialog is much better in comparison. Fallout 3 is good as well, I am playing it now, but that doesn't mean The Witcher is not. Gamers voted it the best RPG of 07 for a reason, not becasue it was all fetch quests, becasue that simply is false.

Story, role playing, choices, consequences, The Witcher does this as good as any RPG, and is why so many people claim itto be so good. The things RPG's are supposed to do it does it extremely well. One person on a forum saying otherwise is hardly scientific is it? Learn what opinion is, and deal with the fact most people do not agrew with you.

You have been called a fanboy because instead of just posting your opinion, when someone says something good about the witcher, you keep posting as if you are right, the fact is most people think the witcher is a great RPG. Most of its quests are NOT fetch quests, only those you can get off bulletin boards for extra cash. Every game has nit picks, fact is, the Witcher is such a great game they are minor in comparison. You have a hard time understanding that most people disagree with you, so you keep trolling this thread. There is more depth in most of the main story quests alone then most RPG's, that alone makes it a splendid RPG. if you don't liek it fine, but don't keep trolling about voice overs and fetch quests, as that hardly makes it a bad RPG, as most RPG's are fetch quests, and bethedda RPG's hardly have good voice, dialog. in fact, the witchers dialog is much better in comparison. Fallout 3 is good as well, I am playing it now, but that doesn't mean The Witcher is not. Gamers voted it the best RPG of 07 for a reason, not becasue it was all fetch quests, becasue that simply is false.

Story, role playing, choices, consequences, The Witcher does this as good as any RPG, and is why so many people claim itto be so good. The things RPG's are supposed to do it does it extremely well. One person on a forum saying otherwise is hardly scientific is it? Learn what opinion is, and deal with the fact most people do not agrew with you.

doyousmellthat

What he said. If your judging The Witcher (great game by the way) because of bad voice acting (I tihnk it has god voice acting) and fetch quests (optional and minor compared to some of the other side quests you get in the game), than take you and your ego out of this topic.The topic creator asked for opinions and he got them and got The Witcher. We don't need some fanboy trolling based of stupid things

You have been called a fanboy because instead of just posting your opinion, when someone says something good about the witcher, you keep posting as if you are right, the fact is most people think the witcher is a great RPG. Most of its quests are NOT fetch quests, only those you can get off bulletin boards for extra cash. Every game has nit picks, fact is, the Witcher is such a great game they are minor in comparison. You have a hard time understanding that most people disagree with you, so you keep trolling this thread. There is more depth in most of the main story quests alone then most RPG's, that alone makes it a splendid RPG. if you don't liek it fine, but don't keep trolling about voice overs and fetch quests, as that hardly makes it a bad RPG, as most RPG's are fetch quests, and bethedda RPG's hardly have good voice, dialog. in fact, the witchers dialog is much better in comparison. Fallout 3 is good as well, I am playing it now, but that doesn't mean The Witcher is not. Gamers voted it the best RPG of 07 for a reason, not becasue it was all fetch quests, becasue that simply is false.

Story, role playing, choices, consequences, The Witcher does this as good as any RPG, and is why so many people claim itto be so good. The things RPG's are supposed to do it does it extremely well. One person on a forum saying otherwise is hardly scientific is it? Learn what opinion is, and deal with the fact most people do not agrew with you.

doyousmellthat

It's not an opinion that most side quests are fetch quests that is a fact. I've shown it to be a fact by listing 4 out of 6 quests you get in the first act alone are fetch quests. that is a majority. All you've said to back up your position is "nuh uh you're a fanboy" THAT right there is opinion.

terrible voice overs, 2008 dialogue and slang in a fantasy RPG, boring combat and fetch quests are the problems with the game. I've never said The Witcher is a bad game so why don't you quit whining and actually read what I write? Persona 3 was also voted the best RPG so I guess that makes it fact too. again these polls you keep naming aren't scientific polls. I can easily vote, delete my cookies and vote again so keep using flawed polls as an excuse and I'll continue not to take you seriously.

You are such a hypocrite. I stated that the game has a bunch of fetch quests you began your whining and calling me names and I pulled the numbers from game guides just to prove you wrong and all you can do is continue to say the numbers from the guides are wrong and even if they are right it doesn't matter.

You said nothing is wrong with the voice acting and I pointed out 3 reviews where people said they'd rather read the game than listen to the voice acting.

you said the combat in the game is great when all it is is pointing and clicking at a certain time or using the right click to cast a spell.

When the OP asked for opinions he probably wanted realistic ones, not ones from frothing at the mouth posters that think everything in The Witcher is so great despite numerous claims otherwise or people that think the game is so great that they're willing to ignore all the game's flaws, and call people names that actually just sit back and name the pros and cons of both games in question.

I sat back and was neutral in the beginning just posting my thoughts and opinion and you guys wanted to call me names and say I'm making things up. So far I've been able to prove my side and all you can do is rest your case on a cheap poll and continue to call names. Where's your proof that this voice acting in the game is great? where's your proof that the dialogue sticks to the era the game is set in and doesn't have modern slang? Where's your proof that combat is more than pressing a hotkey to change style/weapon and then pointing and clicking on a creature until it dies? Where's your proof that says there are more side quests in act 1 alone that doesn't involve fetching parts that I may have missed?

I even agreed with you saying this game is great but I won't ignore someone that's trying to call me a liar just because they like a game so much they want to ignore me.

Until you can be a normal adult and actually PROVE what you say, I'll let you continue to call me names and say what a trolling fanboy I am. I won't even mention that you only have a limited amount of experience with fallout 3 so of course you're going to say The Witcher is better. lol and you dare to talk about opinion.

Both games are great,both have a beautifull world to explore,even though The Witcher is a bit liniar compared to Fallout 3.I'd still go for TW cause it has nice story telling and its gameplay is just fantastic.dinuattila

Witcher was more of a story RPG with action

And Fallout 3 is more of an action RPG with story

Hmmm... does that make sense?

why don't you just play it on your friend's xbox360 when he's done with it? ( and why isn't he playing GoW2, i thought it's a must for every xbox owner ) Jinroh_basic

Because I have a PC that can max it out and I know that it will look better on PC than the 360. Also I want the Windows Live achievements and the modding potential.

[QUOTE="doyousmellthat"][QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="Baranga"][QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="HummaKavula"][QUOTE="smerlus"]

Did you just say clicking on a target over and over again is better combat than a decent shooter/melee game?

The Witcher has sorry voice overs, is loaded with simple fetch quests...the best thing about the game is the decisions have consequences no one can predict and often occur much later in the game.

smerlus

Hate to break it to ya but Fallout 3's voice acting isn't exactly great either.

I'd go with Fallout 3, though.

Geralt's voice and dialogue alone is worse than any 20 characters you say have bad acting in fallout 3.

Moira.

fact is if you don't want to hear Moira's voice, you don't have to talk to her. How can I get over Geralt's terrible voice when he's the lead character?

Desperate for an argument when all you can complain about is the leads voice. Taht os personal preference, most like geralts voice over. Don't play it then, but The Witcher is a rgeat game, if your saying it isn't because of geralts voice then it just you have no valid points to make and are looking for any excuse to hate on the game.

LOL it isn't personal preference it's a known fact that the voice actor sucks. It's documented in hundred of reviews so I'm not alone in thinking that his voice over is shoddy work. If it's not crappy why did they choose to rework it in the EE? One of the major points of the EE was to fix bugs and dialogue so you guys acting like everything is fine and calling me a fanboy are hypocrites. Even the devs realized it was a low point of the game but here you guys are making posts about how terrific it is and how crazy i am.

so here's where the line is drawn.

Devs know that they put out a game with crappy dialogue, reviews say the game has crappy dialogue, I played the game and witnessed crappy dialogue VS you guys that say it's me just being picky and I'm the fanboy

You need to get some perspective on this whole situation

From the couple hours I've played so far I absolutely love Geralt's voice.

that's cool. but you should know that, judging from most reviews, the graphical difference is quite subtle. so if you're having budget problem, the xbox360 version is always a good alternative. never mind about the control -- you've seen how it plays, and the game doesn't need any precise control.

i don't know anything about windows live achievement, but as yet no mod tool has been confirmed, and Bethesda doesn't even sound remotely optimistic about it. it might come in a few months, or it might not....i won't count on it.

that's cool. but you should know that, judging from most reviews, the graphical difference is quite subtle. so if you're having budget problem, the xbox360 version is always a good alternative. never mind about the control -- you've seen how it plays, and the game doesn't need any precise control.

Jinroh_basic

Well, I don't own a 360, my PC is really my only gaming platform. I want to own Fallout 3 eventually because I won't be living with this housemate after next semester. I'll probably wait until there is a good deal on Steam to get Fallout 3.

The Witcher is an action RPG.

Fallout 3 is a shooter RPG.

It all comes down to personal preferences.

I am personally waiting for NWN2 expansion Storm of Zehir. Mask of the Betrayer is one of the best RPGs that I have played in the last few years so I have high hopes for this one.

Bethsoft should take "How to make good characters & intelligent dialogue" classes from Obsidian guys.

Why choose? play both of these and many more.... ;)

Why is this thread still going? The TC already picked The Witcher.CellAnimation

peple need something to argue :P

The Witcher is an action RPG.

Fallout 3 is a shooter RPG.

It all comes down to personal preferences.

I am personally waiting for NWN2 expansion Storm of Zehir. Mask of the Betrayer is one of the best RPGs that I have played in the last few years so I have high hopes for this one.

Bethsoft should take "How to make good characters & intelligent dialogue" classes from Obsidian guys.

zhivago_x

I don't think there's a dev out there that does as good a job with party interaction and characters as Obsidian does. Those classes would be full

Here's what I'm going to say> Get ready. BOTH. And here's why. If you love Western RPGs.. both are a must-have, must-own, must-play, now. The Witcher (IMHO) is underrated, and overlooked by some. It's such a great game and I loved everything about besides the poor optimization and bugs.. It's dirt cheap now on eBay so I would definitely get it. And do I need to say anything about Fallout 3? Just get it, you won't regret it. If money is a concern, wait a little for a price drop and grab it up on eBay. keep checking there for great deals and free shipping. Cheers.Elann2008

I...can't...take much...more. It's common sense overload!

[QUOTE="zhivago_x"]

The Witcher is an action RPG.

Fallout 3 is a shooter RPG.

It all comes down to personal preferences.

I am personally waiting for NWN2 expansion Storm of Zehir. Mask of the Betrayer is one of the best RPGs that I have played in the last few years so I have high hopes for this one.

Bethsoft should take "How to make good characters & intelligent dialogue" classes from Obsidian guys.

smerlus

I don't think there's a dev out there that does as good a job with party interaction and characters as Obsidian does. Those classes would be full

Mask of the Betrayer is indeed a great RPG. It took me awhile to get used to the spirit meter and managing it, but it is an extremely deep and satisfying story and RPG and yes the Obsidian guys kick butt.

If you enjoyed NWN, go with Witcher.

If you hated Oblivion but feel that an instanced yet empty world, bad combat, slo-mo gore and reviewer hype ROXXORZ, then get FO3.

If you enjoyed NWN, go with Witcher.

If you hated Oblivion but feel that an instanced yet empty world, bad combat, slo-mo gore and reviewer hype ROXXORZ, then get FO3.

Emilyek_1

I plan on getting both, and I got The Witcher now. But I loved Oblivion, so your attempt at insulting F3 falls short.

That's good that you liked Oblvion; it shows you probably have good taste. ;)

Please post your opinion of FO3 once you've gotten over how big the draw distance is and how nice Megaton looks.

That's good that you liked Oblvion; it shows you probably have good taste. ;)

Please post your opinion of FO3 once you've gotten over how big the draw distance is and how nice Megaton looks.

Emilyek_1

Just curious and I don't want to start anything. But I find Fallout 3 superior in to Oblivion in nearly every major area that it fell short in. Such as the boring combat, shallow role-play, generic uninteresting fantasy world, shallow npc conversation options. I just don't see how Oblivion is a better game. Anyway, just interested in your reasons.

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That's good that you liked Oblvion; it shows you probably have good taste. ;)

Please post your opinion of FO3 once you've gotten over how big the draw distance is and how nice Megaton looks.

Gooeykat

Just curious and I don't want to start anything. But I find Fallout 3 superior in to Oblivion in nearly every major area that it fell short in. Such as the boring combat, shallow role-play, generic uninteresting fantasy world, shallow npc conversation options. I just don't see how Oblivion is a better game. Anyway, just interested in your reasons.

I agree, 100%. Bethesda redeemed itself (to me) by releasing Fallout 3. I love it!

I can't identify with your opinion at all, although I know lots of people have it.

And it upsets me because it almost surely signifies that TES V will follow the same pattern, since lots of people claim to love it while having disliked TES IV, which to me is superior everywhere it counts.

I know you asked first, but tell me, specifically: what makes Fallout 3 better? What has improved?

I know you asked first, but tell me, specifically: what makes Fallout 3 better? What has improved?

Emilyek_1

Better than what? The previous ES games or the previous FO games?

I like Fallout 3 more for the combat & story. Combat was crappy at first but it got a lot better after leveling up. I find myself using VATS a lot more than I used to. It's awesometo sneak up on some disgusting ghoul, go into VATS, then blast them into goo with my Plasma Rifle. The quests are much more interesting than those of The Witcher.

The combat in The Witcher also gets better as you level up, but the story did absolutely nothing for me and the choices that were supposed to be a big deal didn't impress me at all. I still think it's a must play RPG though.

I don't know if this was asked yet or not since I didn't read all these posts, but why does it matter if modern slang is used in a game with dwarves, elves, swords, etc? Not every fantasy game has to be set in Middle Earth or based off D&D you know.mudflaps2001

because it breaks immersion with the time period. I'm pretty sure if movies such as Braveheart, Lord of the Rings or other movies that reflected a certain time period or setting had people saying things like "dude I'm about to bounce up on out of this piece" they wouldn't have been rated as highly as they were.

[QUOTE="mudflaps2001"]I don't know if this was asked yet or not since I didn't read all these posts, but why does it matter if modern slang is used in a game with dwarves, elves, swords, etc? Not every fantasy game has to be set in Middle Earth or based off D&D you know.smerlus

because it breaks immersion with the time period. I'm pretty sure if movies such as Braveheart, Lord of the Rings or other movies that reflected a certain time period or setting had people saying things like "dude I'm about to bounce up on out of this piece" they wouldn't have been rated as highly as they were.

I can see your point, but I don't think it is valid with fiction because its... fiction. I think it has more to do with people's expectations: if the story involves swords and magic, the culture must represent medieval Europe. Seems silly to me, but to each their own.

I can see your point, but I don't think it is valid with fiction because its... fiction. I think it has more to do with people's expectations: if the story involves swords and magic, the culture must represent medieval Europe. Seems silly to me, but to each their own.mudflaps2001

I understand that it's fantasy and they can do what they want but these are also based off a book that didn't have dialogue like that. Something was lost in translation and someone must have thought more modern words would appeal to Americans or something.

That's good that you liked Oblvion; it shows you probably have good taste. ;)

Please post your opinion of FO3 once you've gotten over how big the draw distance is and how nice Megaton looks.

Emilyek_1

That bomb is v sexy

Very tough choice, I recently beat The Witcher and am playing through Fallout 3 now.

I'd have to say I'm enjoying Fallout 3 more, with the more open world gameplay, rather than being relegated to only a portion of the world at a time like in The Witcher.

I enjoy the combat in Fallout 3 also, but The Witcher's was good too.

I'd go Fallout 3.