Things you hate the most in PC games (glitches / plot twists / nerfing/ etc.)

1) I absolutely hate it when games have either no jumping, or no prone. Especially no jumping. It's so annoying when you can't even get up this small little part of the floor, or have to instead press a button to climb things. Horrible.

2) Games that are poorly optimized, and have poor graphics and content, yet run worse on your PC than games with more content and better graphics.

3) Games coming with 3+ install CDs. Geez. Thank god DVD-ROMs are common practice now.

4) Games where winning is frustrating, and you're not really sure what to do.The objectives aren't clear / nonexistant, and you have to kind of trial and error, running in circles, looking for an opening or something to advance further.

cheaters, though consoles have them as well now...

unfinished games, requiring patches, though consoles have those now as well.

thats about it. really.

Install limits.

PC games being dumbed down because of the mainstream/console audience.

Bethesda.

EA.

The Call of Duty series after CoD2.

Companies too lazy to hire non-Americans to voice act non-American characters.

Bad voice acting in general.

GameSpot's PC section.

EA.

Expansions masquerading as episodic titles.

Troika closing down.

Ion Storm closing down.

Irrational/2K Boston not closing down.

EA.

id's use by date expiring shortly after Quake 3.

My Steam offline mode telling me I have to connect to the internet to go into offline mode. Not much help when my net is down.

Awesome adventure games being released that not enough people are buying.

Everything peter Molyneux has ever said or done after forming Lionhead.

EA.

Install limits.

PC games being dumbed down because of the mainstream/console audience.

Bethesda.

EA.

The Call of Duty series after CoD2.

Companies too lazy to hire non-Americans to voice act non-American characters.

Bad voice acting in general.

GameSpot's PC section.

EA.

Expansions masquerading as episodic titles.

Troika closing down.

Ion Storm closing down.

Irrational/2K Boston not closing down.

EA.

id's use by date expiring shortly after Quake 3.

My Steam offline mode telling me I have to connect to the internet to go into offline mode. Not much help when my net is down.

Awesome adventure games being released that not enough people are buying.

Everything peter Molyneux has ever said or done after forming Lionhead.

EA.

fatshodan

blizzard north leaving blizzard.

EA definatley, but hey atleast they lost the james bond license.. went to activision.

the fact that quake wasnt really quake after the first one..

the fact that flagship studios wasnt given enough time and money to do something great.

Mulitiplayer games that are meant for adults, and a bunch of little kids are playing.Orcishman05

agreed, though if the kids are cool and dont flood the coms channels or talk period and just play the game, then me and the kids are cool, but most of the time, they like to open their mouths, bla bla bla this, bla bla bla that..

PC games that have medium - large maps for multiplayer, but only allow 15 - 25 players per server. Why bother?

Bad AI that stands there while their teammate gets mowed down.

Games with insanely grainy graphics, as opposed to sharp objects that stick out and are easily seen.

Invisible barriers. Gears of War, Call of Duty should be blamed for this.

At least in Crysis you have those ships shooting at you if you venture out too far.

Awesome adventure games being released that not enough people are buying.

fatshodan

Care to name a few ? I am looking for some good adventure games. I enjoyed Overclocked and The Experiment and would buy Grim Fandango if I could find it any place besides Ebay.

Mulitiplayer games that are meant for adults, and a bunch of little kids are playing.Orcishman05

Adults that play multiplayer games that trash talk minors when they in fact act worse they the typical twelve year-old themselves.

cheaters, though consoles have them as well now...

unfinished games, requiring patches, though consoles have those now as well.

thats about it. really.

Lach0121

Hit it on the head. I guess I would add poor support, but that falls under unfinished games.

[QUOTE="fatshodan"]

Awesome adventure games being released that not enough people are buying.

Jade_Monkey

Care to name a few ? I am looking for some good adventure games. I enjoyed Overclocked and The Experiment and would buy Grim Fandango if I could find it any place besides Ebay.

Actually, no. I don't care to name a few at all! Arghghh! Let go of my arm! Okay, you've convinced me.

Sam and Max Seasons 1 and 2 are most excellent and should be purchased immediately.

From what I have played so far, Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People Season 1 is going to be excellent.

A Vampyre Story, which is definitely coming out soon and they really do super honestly seriously mean it this time, is looking great.

Also, if you're interested in Grim Fandango, you might want to try The Curse of Monkey Island instead. It's easily the best LucasArts adventure game (that I've played, anyway), and it's definitely a hell of a lot better than Grim Fandango. It's typically about half as expensive as GF, too.

I'm also fond of the Broken Sword series.

In no particular order ...

Console ports, games that require a hardware upgrade to play, sequels, the strange fact that all major publisher games get an 8 or better on Gamespot somehow, countless DRM/piracy threads that rehash the same pointless discussions, DRM in general, expansions that are sold as full price games, MMORPGS, cutscenes that you can't skip, FPS that try to actually have a plot, game developers that seem to think they're filmmakers, and game developers that whine about "piracy" because their buggy overhyped turd of a game didn't sell well.

1) I absolutely hate it when games have either no jumping, or no prone. Especially no jumping. It's so annoying when you can't even get up this small little part of the floor, or have to instead press a button to climb things. Horrible.

Beagle050

The kotor serie was pretty good. And I had some fun playing rainbow 6 too. So it's clearly not game breaking for me.

• Bad optimisation in games. Not everyone has a supercomputer or can afford to upgrade to the newest GPU when its released.
• Poor customer support from developers and publishers when it comes to updates, patches or generally issues you need to contact the help desk for.
• Developers and Publishers crying about piracy being the reason they've gone multiplatform. I wish they would just admit they want to be open to a wider market for financial gain on their part. I have no problem with them doing this i just hate how they blame piracy and PC gamers for their decision to do this.
• Being able to carry enough explosives and weapons to blow up a small country but i can't get past the wooden door infront of me because i forgot to loot the key or password from some obscure enemy.
• People who hate Steam.
• Games being released with more bugs than a rainforest has. Please stop releasing games that feel and play like a beta stage release.
• Bad voice acting or lack of it in games makes me sad. In this day and age its just as important to get the voice acting to a good level as it is the visuals. Especially if a game has a lot of dialogue or cutscenes.
• Developers employing Americans to voice non-American characters. Its not hard to find someone in the USA who isn't an American to voice act a non-American.
• Constantly playing as an American in almost every game in existance. Please there is other countries on this planet, look at a map randomly pick one, it isn't that hard to find them.
• For every main character in a game thats female there is about 10 main characters who are male in other games. This needs to change and as a guy myself i do get bored of playing some beefed up hooligan all the time. Give me some eye candy...god bless Lara Croft.
• British accents in games always being upper class and posh or being cockney. How about some Scottish? Scouser? or hell even Geordy!
• Russia always being put in the "bad guy" role in games.
• Games being set in the unnamed middle eastern countries. God just call it Iraq and set the game in 2020 or something...
• EA - DRM, i shall say no more on this that hasn't already been said before.
• Valve delaying games that i want to play now, WORK FASTER DAMN YOU!
• WW2 games, just let this genre of FPS die. Please i don't think i could actually handle playing the Normandy beach again...and again...and again...
• Fanatsy Setting MMO's, there are enough of them so please god stop making them. Make a modern day FPS MMO where players form guerilla armies and have mass PvP wars between factions / guilds.
• Expansion Packs - stop wasting time developing them and start making a sequel instead, yes i'm talking to Valve and Crytek here.
• PC gamers that own consoles and buy the console version of every multiplatform game that comes out.
• The lack of mainstream coverage of the PC as a gaming platform at events like E3.
• DX10 being Vista only.
• Developers saying they have been inovative and unique when they have really just taken the same idea from an older game and reworded the concept.
• Dropping updates and support for a game once a handfull of patches have been released but the game still has bugs and issues in it.
• People hating on Valve or Blizzard.
• Nerfing - when developers feel the need to nerf a class or ability in a game so much that it becomes utterly useless they have failed to balance the game. Sadly most nerfs in MMO's seem to be like this. Guild Wars being a prime example.
• Art styles being all "modern", "realisitic" and generally "dull" in colouring. What ever happened to bright and imaginative art styles for a games setting.

Screen tearing. So annoying. Thank god for V Sync.Tauruslink

I hate screen-tearing too but sometimes Vsync doesnt fix it.

I hate bad ports, rushed/unfinished games, poor optimization, terrible lip-syncing, games that require patches that doesn't make the game better, did I say screen-tearing? I HATE screen-tearing with a passion. Bad sound effects, terrible voice actors, games with too much of an open-world that lacks story-driven element. And I hate games that never get patched when they're gawd awful to begin with.

• Bad optimisation in games. Not everyone has a supercomputer or can afford to upgrade to the newest GPU when its released.
• Poor customer support from developers and publishers when it comes to updates, patches or generally issues you need to contact the help desk for.
• Developers and Publishers crying about piracy being the reason they've gone multiplatform. I wish they would just admit they want to be open to a wider market for financial gain on their part. I have no problem with them doing this i just hate how they blame piracy and PC gamers for their decision to do this.
• Being able to carry enough explosives and weapons to blow up a small country but i can't get past the wooden door infront of me because i forgot to loot the key or password from some obscure enemy.
• People who hate Steam.
• Games being released with more bugs than a rainforest has. Please stop releasing games that feel and play like a beta stage release.
• Bad voice acting or lack of it in games makes me sad. In this day and age its just as important to get the voice acting to a good level as it is the visuals. Especially if a game has a lot of dialogue or cutscenes.
• Developers employing Americans to voice non-American characters. Its not hard to find someone in the USA who isn't an American to voice act a non-American.
• Constantly playing as an American in almost every game in existance. Please there is other countries on this planet, look at a map randomly pick one, it isn't that hard to find them.
• For every main character in a game thats female there is about 10 main characters who are male in other games. This needs to change and as a guy myself i do get bored of playing some beefed up hooligan all the time. Give me some eye candy...god bless Lara Croft.
• British accents in games always being upper class and posh or being cockney. How about some Scottish? Scouser? or hell even Geordy!
• Russia always being put in the "bad guy" role in games.
• Games being set in the unnamed middle eastern countries. God just call it Iraq and set the game in 2020 or something...
• EA - DRM, i shall say no more on this that hasn't already been said before.
• Valve delaying games that i want to play now, WORK FASTER DAMN YOU!
• WW2 games, just let this genre of FPS die. Please i don't think i could actually handle playing the Normandy beach again...and again...and again...
• Fanatsy Setting MMO's, there are enough of them so please god stop making them. Make a modern day FPS MMO where players form guerilla armies and have mass PvP wars between factions / guilds.
• Expansion Packs - stop wasting time developing them and start making a sequel instead, yes i'm talking to Valve and Crytek here.
• PC gamers that own consoles and buy the console version of every multiplatform game that comes out.
• The lack of mainstream coverage of the PC as a gaming platform at events like E3.
• DX10 being Vista only.
• Developers saying they have been inovative and unique when they have really just taken the same idea from an older game and reworded the concept.
• Dropping updates and support for a game once a handfull of patches have been released but the game still has bugs and issues in it.
• People hating on Valve or Blizzard.
• Nerfing - when developers feel the need to nerf a class or ability in a game so much that it becomes utterly useless they have failed to balance the game. Sadly most nerfs in MMO's seem to be like this. Guild Wars being a prime example.
• Art styles being all "modern", "realisitic" and generally "dull" in colouring. What ever happened to bright and imaginative art styles for a games setting.

There is more but i've hit a mental block now...
1005

Well that covers just about everything.

New thread: Things you love the most in PC games.

• Bad optimisation in games. Not everyone has a supercomputer or can afford to upgrade to the newest GPU when its released.
• Poor customer support from developers and publishers when it comes to updates, patches or generally issues you need to contact the help desk for.
• Developers and Publishers crying about piracy being the reason they've gone multiplatform. I wish they would just admit they want to be open to a wider market for financial gain on their part. I have no problem with them doing this i just hate how they blame piracy and PC gamers for their decision to do this.
• Being able to carry enough explosives and weapons to blow up a small country but i can't get past the wooden door infront of me because i forgot to loot the key or password from some obscure enemy.
• People who hate Steam.
• Games being released with more bugs than a rainforest has. Please stop releasing games that feel and play like a beta stage release.
• Bad voice acting or lack of it in games makes me sad. In this day and age its just as important to get the voice acting to a good level as it is the visuals. Especially if a game has a lot of dialogue or cutscenes.
• Developers employing Americans to voice non-American characters. Its not hard to find someone in the USA who isn't an American to voice act a non-American.
• Constantly playing as an American in almost every game in existance. Please there is other countries on this planet, look at a map randomly pick one, it isn't that hard to find them.
• For every main character in a game thats female there is about 10 main characters who are male in other games. This needs to change and as a guy myself i do get bored of playing some beefed up hooligan all the time. Give me some eye candy...god bless Lara Croft.
• British accents in games always being upper class and posh or being cockney. How about some Scottish? Scouser? or hell even Geordy!
• Russia always being put in the "bad guy" role in games.
• Games being set in the unnamed middle eastern countries. God just call it Iraq and set the game in 2020 or something...
• EA - DRM, i shall say no more on this that hasn't already been said before.
• Valve delaying games that i want to play now, WORK FASTER DAMN YOU!
• WW2 games, just let this genre of FPS die. Please i don't think i could actually handle playing the Normandy beach again...and again...and again...
• Fanatsy Setting MMO's, there are enough of them so please god stop making them. Make a modern day FPS MMO where players form guerilla armies and have mass PvP wars between factions / guilds.
• Expansion Packs - stop wasting time developing them and start making a sequel instead, yes i'm talking to Valve and Crytek here.
• PC gamers that own consoles and buy the console version of every multiplatform game that comes out.
• The lack of mainstream coverage of the PC as a gaming platform at events like E3.
• DX10 being Vista only.
• Developers saying they have been inovative and unique when they have really just taken the same idea from an older game and reworded the concept.
• Dropping updates and support for a game once a handfull of patches have been released but the game still has bugs and issues in it.
• People hating on Valve or Blizzard.
• Nerfing - when developers feel the need to nerf a class or ability in a game so much that it becomes utterly useless they have failed to balance the game. Sadly most nerfs in MMO's seem to be like this. Guild Wars being a prime example.
• Art styles being all "modern", "realisitic" and generally "dull" in colouring. What ever happened to bright and imaginative art styles for a games setting.

There is more but i've hit a mental block now...
1005

not knowing where to go in games. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

when they run like sh!t

Install limits.

PC games being dumbed down because of the mainstream/console audience.

Bethesda.

EA.

The Call of Duty series after CoD2.

Companies too lazy to hire non-Americans to voice act non-American characters.

Bad voice acting in general.

GameSpot's PC section.

EA.

Expansions masquerading as episodic titles.

Troika closing down.

Ion Storm closing down.

Irrational/2K Boston not closing down.

EA.

id's use by date expiring shortly after Quake 3.

My Steam offline mode telling me I have to connect to the internet to go into offline mode. Not much help when my net is down.

Awesome adventure games being released that not enough people are buying.

Everything peter Molyneux has ever said or done after forming Lionhead.

EA.

fatshodan

I hate EA too, thanks to them for killing off my first favorite gaming company Origin Systems.

R.I.P.

[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]Screen tearing. So annoying. Thank god for V Sync.Elann2008

I hate screen-tearing too but sometimes Vsync doesnt fix it.

I hate bad ports, rushed/unfinished games, poor optimization, terrible lip-syncing, games that require patches that doesn't make the game better, did I say screen-tearing? I HATE screen-tearing with a passion. Bad sound effects, terrible voice actors, games with too much of an open-world that lacks story-driven element. And I hate games that never get patched when they're gawd awful to begin with.

Yeah, if you just enable V-sync in the game it doesnt always work. I have it forced on in the nvidia control panel, and that takes care of it.

not knowing where to go in games. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

when they run like sh!t

jpph

Agreed. There's nothing worse than being in limbo with games with no instructions, and it just assumes you'll know where to go.

AI that's so stupid that you can walk up to them, pat them on the back, and then knife them / jump on them / whatever without them even knowing you were there.

In gun games, AI that don't know the difference between a silenced weapon and a gun without a silencer, and will either be alerted by silenced shots, or not be alerted by unsilenced shots. Both are equally annoying.

[QUOTE="jpph"]

not knowing where to go in games. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

when they run like sh!t

Beagle050

Agreed. There's nothing worse than being in limbo with games with no instructions, and it just assumes you'll know where to go.

AI that's so stupid that you can walk up to them, pat them on the back, and then knife them / jump on them / whatever without them even knowing you were there.

In gun games, AI that don't know the difference between a silenced weapon and a gun without a silencer, and will either be alerted by silenced shots, or not be alerted by unsilenced shots. Both are equally annoying.

Consolized PC games..

Short SP campaigns..

Errors,CTD's,BSOD's out of box..

Extreme DRM..

Unfinished games, requiring patches.

Lach0121

PC games being dumbed down because of the mainstream/console audience.

fatshodan

These are what Herrick hates the most.

Over-pricing. $100 (au) for a game. C'mon.

Bad storytelling and dialogue.

Inbalanced difficulty levels.

System Requirements.

Looking Glass closing down.

1) I absolutely hate it when games have either no jumping, or no prone. Especially no jumping. It's so annoying when you can't even get up this small little part of the floor, or have to instead press a button to climb things. Horrible.

2) Games that are poorly optimized, and have poor graphics and content, yet run worse on your PC than games with more content and better graphics.

3) Games coming with 3+ install CDs. Geez. Thank god DVD-ROMs are common practice now.

4) Games where winning is frustrating, and you're not really sure what to do.The objectives aren't clear / nonexistant, and you have to kind of trial and error, running in circles, looking for an opening or something to advance further.

Beagle050

I would agree with everything you said

[QUOTE="Beagle050"]

1) I absolutely hate it when games have either no jumping, or no prone. Especially no jumping. It's so annoying when you can't even get up this small little part of the floor, or have to instead press a button to climb things. Horrible.

2) Games that are poorly optimized, and have poor graphics and content, yet run worse on your PC than games with more content and better graphics.

3) Games coming with 3+ install CDs. Geez. Thank god DVD-ROMs are common practice now.

4) Games where winning is frustrating, and you're not really sure what to do.The objectives aren't clear / nonexistant, and you have to kind of trial and error, running in circles, looking for an opening or something to advance further.

gamerguy845

I would agree with everything you said

Looking Glass closing down.

biggest_loser

This :cry:

Venting threads can be so therapeutic.

1. The almost non-existent advertising effort for PC games. Do you think this might have something to do with low PC game sales?

3. Patches meant to finish the game and not fix it.

4. Fanboys. I had a lot of fun with World of Warcraft but that doesn't change the fact Blizzard used the same two quests (kill quota and loot drop collection) for 80% of the game. I even had people tell me that raids are not supposed to be fun, they're work. There is something wrong when people start to believe its OK to pay $15 dollars a month for the privilege to work in a make believe world.

5. Single minded focus on graphics. The most unstable and buggy games I've played are the ones with high end graphics. This probably has something to do with why Gears of War ran so poorly. It was around 6 months old when it hit the PC but required video card drivers that were still in beta testing. Its way past time to shift some of that focus to engine stability.

6. Bad demos. The only two I know of that got it right are Valve's demo for Half-life 1 and Trioka's demo for Temple of Elemental Evil. They were both brand new levels designed to introduce you to game play and teach you how to play without ruining anything from the full game. This is how all demos should be designed.

7. DRM and the people who whine about it. I don't like activation any more that you do. However, its time to stop with the complaints. Very few have offered any real alternatives to try. The constant yelling doesn't help and the angry reviews on Amazon only serve to cast the entire PC gaming community in a bad light.

8. Expansion packs. The idea to have the events of Half-life 1 retold from different points of view in Blue Shift and Opposing Forces was brilliant. It blew the Black Mesa facility wide open, reignited everyone's interest in Half-life, and was one of the main reasons that game has had such a long life. Why doesn't anyone else do this?

9. Release dates. There are plenty of other ways to hype a game. Don't give us the release dates until they are set in stone. I understand how Charlie Brown feels every time Lucy yanks the football away.

10. Bogus excuses. LucasArts not releasing The Force Unleashed on the PC didn't bother me too much. The excuse they used only pissed me off. If you want to use technical reasons for not releasing a game on the PC then you need to explain it. We figured out a long time ago the best way to offset the cost of PC gaming to build our own PC's. This had created community that is fairly tech savvy. Give us the details, we can handle it. We will also get those who aren't tech savvy up to speed.

11. Fanboys & bugs. To any gamer who has ever written a patch for a game that is less than 6 months old: STOP IT! You paid $50 for that game. Releasing highly buggy and unstable games is something that has earned distibutors/developers an unending stream of anger. Or maybe a lawsuit.

12. Hardware. Things like SLI need to go away. Its way to expensive, there are no games that require it, and very few titles that can truly benefit from SLI. If you want to have any chance of winning over new PC gamers then refocusing on more cost effective hardware is going to help a lot.

13. Fanboys. Some of their worst moments are when they get paid to be a professional critic. One of the reviews of Half-life 2 gave it an 11. Just because its a great game doesn't justify throwing the 0 - 10 scale out the door. This kind of behavior gives us legitimate reasons to accuse you of selling out.

14. The lack of mod distribution support. A lot of companies have benefited financially because the work of the mod community has prompted people to buy games long past their shelf life. How come only one company has enough sense to offer distribution support?

Blizzard North leaving Blizzard

Westwood closing down

But the thing I hate most has got to be the dumbing down of games...I DON'T WANT MY HEALTH TO REGEN AFTER 3 SECONDS OF LYING DOWN ON THE FLOOR!

There's very little I hate about PC games in general. There's lots of stuff I hate about people in regards to PC games.

• People who complain about buggy games, while similtaneously complaining about delays.
• People who have crappy computers, don't take care of their computer, or don't know what the hell they're doing, so they blame the developer, say the game is "not optimized".
• People who give PC games bad ratings because they're computer is weak and can't run next generation games.
• People who haven't updated their drivers in years, but complain that games crash "for no reason".
• People who are too cheap to upgrade their system, so they cry and moan about games that don't run at the MAXIMUM FRICKING SETTINGS.
• People who don't want to upgrade their PC, so they expect developers to make games with dated graphics.
• People who think that good graphics = bad gameplay.
• People who use the words "fanboy" and "noob" excessively.
• People who complain about DRM software. WTF do you need to load a game on more then five PC's for?
• People who don't like the idea of technology moving forward. If you can't afford SLI or you don't like it, don't buy it. Some of us like this stuff, so why shouldn't it be available?

• Lag.
• Boring gameplay.
• Short Campaigns.
• Consolization.
• Lag.
• Bugs/Glitches.
• Repitition.
• Consolization.
• Lag.
• No sequels to great games because of unpopularity.
• Less focus on quality Singleplayer Experiences.
• Consolization.
• Lag.
• Shallow gameplay.
• Mega-Underration of great games.
• Consolization.

Stupid things that kill you, like when you're in a fierce campaign, and you're just at the end, a tree falls down and squashes you or something, causing you to need to restart the entire level. lol

Also, in fps games like BF2 or Joint Operations where you have a defensive position set up with a vehicle, and some noob hops in and drives it off of a cliff, either to grief or because they're retarded. I'm one day waiting for a company to make the option to lock a vehicle.

Driving games / BF2-like games where even turning the corner causes your vehicle to flip over and blow up.

Lack of a solid and consistent jump feature.

Having the dvd in the drive to play.

EA

The "Its our server I can be a crap admin if i want attitude"

Most recent tom clancy games, i have no idea why jump was consdered bad.

Games for windows live and most GFW games.

Unconvential and generally stupid controls(See lost planet).

Token black guy added to the group to add diversity and a white dominated game and makes the game look worse than not adding him(UT3, Gears,ect)

- Lucasarts

- that games are not as creative as they were in the 90's

- that adventure games are still not recovered from their coma

- the lack of space games like Wing Commander

- the fact that developers rely too much on graphics and not enough gameplay

- AI that is still not good enough

- dumbing down games for a consoleish public

- games taking too much to develop (Spore anyone) and failing to live up to that massive hype

- low res textures. They are still not good enough in most games. Let's wait that Id Tech 5 solves that.

- too many clones. Make original and innovative games like The Sims, Spore, etc.

1) I absolutely hate it when games have either no jumping, or no prone. Especially no jumping. It's so annoying when you can't even get up this small little part of the floor, or have to instead press a button to climb things. Horrible.

2) Games that are poorly optimized, and have poor graphics and content, yet run worse on your PC than games with more content and better graphics.

3) Games coming with 3+ install CDs. Geez. Thank god DVD-ROMs are common practice now.

4) Games where winning is frustrating, and you're not really sure what to do.The objectives aren't clear / nonexistant, and you have to kind of trial and error, running in circles, looking for an opening or something to advance further.

Beagle050

glicthes and poorly optimezed games (looks at u Crysis and Assasins Creed)

hmmm....

Multiple discs (i don't mind multiple discs that much, but the installation process just gets real tedious)

Glitches.

Patching. I have no problem with it, but the huge patches are just a pain to get.

The fact that you can't rent PC games. I hate spending a ton of money for a game that i'll be done with in 20 hours or less. My PC game collection would be much smaller if that was possible, but considering the money I'd save, it'd be worth it.

The fact that you can't sell PC games. Buy an awful game and you're pretty much screwed.

Lack of fighters, action games, and JRPGs.

Too many FPS games. Way, way, way too many. That goes for all platforms.

Local multiplayer is completely absent and co-op is rarely seen.

Spending more than half an hour messing with graphics settings. When you don't have the latest gear, it gets real troublesome.

Expansion packs that barely justify its prices.

Games that demand lots of good hardware, but look and perform like crap.

Elitists that overexagerrate the qualities of the PC. Better graphics, mods, and kb/m. Sounds good, but things most people can really live without.

Crashes.

The fact that even the most hardcore PC gamers don't give a damn about Audiosurf. What's wrong with you people?

I don't mind the PC elitists too much. I just don't understand why they freak out about having 80 fps instead of 100 fps; as if you can actually tell the difference.

Games that are just boring and uninspired. Turn a corner, stab someone. Turn another corner, shoot someone. This is 2008, You would think they would add some interesting decorations, instead of bland, solid walls.

I can take games that don't resolve their plots, unless if the plot was a big part of the game. I hate when games just end without a suitable ending if there were cut scenes throughout.

I absolutely hate all F2P games. First of all, they're all rip-offs of other games. Take Warrock for example, and Combat Arms. You couldn't pay me to install that, firstly with the idea that I don't trust their programs in the first place not to make my Video Card explode or something like that. lol

I don't mind the PC elitists too much. I just don't understand why they freak out about having 80 fps instead of 100 fps; as if you can actually tell the difference.

Games that are just boring and uninspired. Turn a corner, stab someone. Turn another corner, shoot someone. This is 2008, You would think they would add some interesting decorations, instead of bland, solid walls.

I can take games that don't resolve their plots, unless if the plot was a big part of the game. I hate when games just end without a suitable ending if there were cut scenes throughout.

I absolutely hate all F2P games. First of all, they're all rip-offs of other games. Take Warrock for example, and Combat Arms. You couldn't pay me to install that, firstly with the idea that I don't trust their programs in the first place not to make my Video Card explode or something like that. lol

Beagle050

i dont mind plot twists, as long as it isnt a stupid one.. just to make you go .... what?? but if it actually is part of the story, then by all means twist it.