Thoughts on Warhammer Online?

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#1 CaptainAhab13
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It's been forever since I've heard something about this game, and lots of reviews look great. Yet, I hear that no one plays it. Is this true?

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#2 svenus97
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A great PvP MMO that fell to the might of WoW...

The game is awesome, the PvP is awesome. But nobody plays it anymore, there are like 6 servers left, as I said WoW kills another MMO. There were some issues though, like doing PvE to get some of the best PvP gear, and some imbalance issues (that were fixed mostly)

Geting it when it was released and playing it for the next 6-10 months? Hell yea.

Getting it now? I don't think so.

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#3 Kh1ndjal
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i believe it has unlimited free trial so you can try it out.
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#4 SLUSHiNaToR
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I was somewhat interested in the game until that issue occured with people getting charged like 10x the amount per month randomly and some peoples credit got ruined cause of it.. It might be a great game, but its just things like that scare me away from a game..
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#5 wigan_gamer
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I was bored to death in this game..... PvP was lackluster for me, and for a game that had such a bad PvE system, PvP had to be good. But it was terrible. I hate this game!

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#6 millerlight89
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It is not a bad game. I just found it really boring. Though some really love it.
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#7 Swedish_Chef
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The balance issues killed it more than WoW did. People wanted the pvp, if the pvp was good they would have stayed because WoW's is utter garbage. But there were so many problems with bright wizards and sorcerers that it made the game completely boring to play.

Now the problem is that there's very few people playing and in order to compete with some veteren players you would literally have to sub for a year and grind non stop to get up to their level of renown and gear, and over the course of that year you would be rolled at will. There is no easy way to get good gear which, while understandable in some respect, makes it imposible to attract new players and keep them once they see what's ahead of them.

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#8 TerrorRizzing
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Age of Conan turned out better in the long run.

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#9 CaptainAhab13
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Apparently Mythic has updated it a lot. I'm downloading the free trial to give it a go. WoW is fun, but PvP is eh. Raiding is awesome though. :D

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#10 THGarrett
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The game sounded amazing on paper, but it just wasn't executed all that well. I tried to get past the few area on the trial, but it just wasn't interesting enough to keep me playing.

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#11 Morphic
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IMO it's 2nd after WoW. It's got good players and alot of content and it's fun.

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#12 CaptainAhab13
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Well, almost level 3. Only gripe is that the game streams CONSTANTLY. Takes forever to get the framerate to speed up, sometimes. Just did a public quest, it was somewhat fun. I suppose I'll have to get past the first few areas before I can make a valid judgment, but at this point, with the meh graphics, I can't imagine paying $15 a month for this.

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#13 Evilmeanie
Member since 2010 • 423 Posts

I can not recommend Warhammer. I would look at AoC first (and I am no fan of it, but the PVP feels a lot better).

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#14 vfibsux
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Well, almost level 3. Only gripe is that the game streams CONSTANTLY. Takes forever to get the framerate to speed up, sometimes. Just did a public quest, it was somewhat fun. I suppose I'll have to get past the first few areas before I can make a valid judgment, but at this point, with the meh graphics, I can't imagine paying $15 a month for this.

CaptainAhab13
Public quests are ghost towns outside of starter area. You will not see the next areas of the game without paying. I was pushing for people to try this a while ago to help get the population up, but Mythic has just screwed this game up bigtime, just as they did Daoc. Down to 4 North American servers now, will be 2 soon no doubt. It can still be fun, but ends up being more frustrating than fun most outings. There are overpowered classes and under powered classes Mythic refuses to touch. Balance is a joke. Mythic was just absorbed into Bioware, no doubt the first step to eradicating this crap of a game company that has now squandered two games that could have been great.
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#15 MrLions
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A crappy PvE system and a PvP system that left you saying "now what....:|" They should just make the game F2P
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#16 svenus97
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Good news for you TC, if you are from Europe.

I just got an email that states this :

Bioware Mythic is pleased to be assuming all publishing and operational responsibilities for Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning in Europe, effective 7 July 2010. We would like to take this opportunity to thank GOA for their commitment and service to the WAR community and to invite you to join us in welcoming the European community to Bioware Mythic by extending 2 free weeks of playtime to all Current and Former GOA WAR players starting 7 July 2010.

We understand that you may have questions regarding this transition. To help, we've assembled a list of Frequently Asked Questions which can be found in the following languages:

  • English - http://www.warhammeronline.com/international/goa/faq_en.php
  • French - http://www.warhammeronline.com/international/goa/faq_fr.php
  • German - http://www.warhammeronline.com/international/goa/faq_de.php

Once the transition has completed, existing and returning players can access the Mythic Account center (https://accounts.eamythic.com/) using their same Master Account name with the _EUR suffix added on; For Example ACCOUNT NAME_EUR. PLEASE NOTE: In some rare cases of Master Account names exceeding 19 characters, players will only use an underscore suffix; For example ACCOUNT NAME_. In most cases players will use the _EUR suffix. The above information applies to your WAR game account as well.

Also, we've been able to transfer all previously stored items in player Mailboxes, on the Auction House and in Guild Banks at the time we received the data stamp from GOA (29 June 2010), so these items will be waiting for you when you normal play resumes on the Bioware Mythic European WAR servers in the coming days.

Returning players can download the client here: http://www.warhammeronline.com/download/index.php

Welcome to our European community and we'll see you on the Battlefield!

WAAAGH!

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#17 Aethdrir
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Yea, Mythic is trying. Next patch, 1.3.6, is going to be massive. They are addressing most classes balancing, armor sets adjustments, making RvR more enticing, changing UI elements(sticky targeting), and tons more. Also they have a big announcement coming by end of summer, most speculate an expansion.
People may hate it but it's one of the only PvP game out there where you will see 50+ vs 50+ fighting over keeps/forts/objectives. It's the only MMO where you can push zones towards the other realms capital city then invade it and kill the king in front of their face. Plus, it has the most(and most creative) scenario's (ala WoW Battlegrounds) of any MMO, with weekend events(every weekend) featuring new or adjusted versions of scenarios.
If you want PvE.. it is lacking but does have the Tome of Knowledge- a very interesting way to track your lore and progress; Public Quests that are very fun in t1/4(empty in t2/3 but fun if you find group!), Open Parties for quick groups, massive LotD PvE zone, and dungeon progression in the form of armor wards(no raids though...) From June producer's letter: "We hear these requests loud and clear, and it is our desire to give you a better sense of WAR's long term plan by the end of summer. Our detractors like to make fun of us for "being really excited" and "itching to tell you about" some "really cool things" (yes, we read the snarky posts), and in this case we want to shout it from the rooftops…but not just yet." ". . .but I want to highlight one more significant feature. With 1.3.6, we will be introducing a new feature, called Against All Odds, a rewards incentive program that will reward outnumbered armies within an RVR lake by offering a scaling bonus to experience, renown, and influence, up to 400% for the outnumbered realm. We think that with bonuses this high, you'll see a lot more people willing to engage in all different types of ORVR, especially when the odds are stacked against them."
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#18 Treflis
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Tried the free trial and I have to admit, even though you were a little restricted, naturally since it was a free trial, it was pretty good.
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#19 FelipeInside
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IMO it's 2nd after WoW. It's got good players and alot of content and it's fun.

Morphic

You sure about that.... ?

with only 6 servers left and people leaving all the time. I would think EVE, AoC and LOTRO would have more players than WAR...

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#20 N30F3N1X
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It was meant to be a WoW killer. One of the head developers even said they were copying parts of WoW to help people in the transition. It was hyped to hell and back, and was pushed even more after Age of Conan failed.

Now everyone is going "nobody ever said it was a WoW killer", one of the lead developers was fired, and Mythic has to rely on cheap methods to get people to try it.

My thoughts? It was made with wrong ideas in mind, it was rushed, and it tried to appeal to the wrong kind of audience. In short, it was a failure before it was even announced, and everything went to hell when it was released.

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#21 vfibsux
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Wow, took 40 votes to finally get 1 that still plays and thinks it's great. The game is in sad, sad shape.

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#22 Aethdrir
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yea because 40 people surely are the majority of MMO players.
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#23 mirgamer
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yea because 40 people surely are the majority of MMO players.Aethdrir
But when you go from 60+ servers to only 4...
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#24 Pvt_r3d
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I'm not a fan of PVP based MMO's
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#25 Aethdrir
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[QUOTE="Aethdrir"]yea because 40 people surely are the majority of MMO players.mirgamer
But when you go from 60+ servers to only 4...

8 servers, an yes its bled lots of ppl that thought it was gonna be WoW2.0. my opinion its a great game if u like pvp and is still repairing downfalls with every patch. try free trial imo
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#26 denter21
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Most people were looking for another pve game, which it isn't, so they left, leaving an inflated number of servers. More people left several months later when it became painfully obvious Mythic had no interest in the communities' feedback.
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#27 PunishedOne
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It was meant to be a WoW killer. One of the head developers even said they were copying parts of WoW to help people in the transition. It was hyped to hell and back, and was pushed even more after Age of Conan failed.

Now everyone is going "nobody ever said it was a WoW killer", one of the lead developers was fired, and Mythic has to rely on cheap methods to get people to try it.

My thoughts? It was made with wrong ideas in mind, it was rushed, and it tried to appeal to the wrong kind of audience. In short, it was a failure before it was even announced, and everything went to hell when it was released.

N30F3N1X

Bolded: Incorrect, it was designed to be #2, not destroy WoW.

The number one issue the game had was class balance. The second issue being that it was running on a very dated engine that was never meant to handle open world RvR and the game was originally designed for scenarios only.

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#28 IvanElk
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I was bored to death in this game..... PvP was lackluster for me, and for a game that had such a bad PvE system, PvP had to be good. But it was terrible. I hate this game!

wigan_gamer
You obviously never EVER played. Yes PVE was essentially to get pvp gear, but that doesn't mean pvp was bad. It had some pretty damn epic battles ( I was there in the peak of the game) and the entire pvp system was great. You have to group though you can't be like a level 70 rogue (I played IN BC before WTLK ruined the game) and go around and kill people solo. You need a group of 5 or more to accomplish... anything and that really isn't a fault that is just how the game is. Playing this game and playing the end game pvp are two different things, making a trial and calling the game crap also doesn't count. Get to level 40 and do forts and Cities (ah the good old days the little 13 year olds play at 4:00 and during the day we raided each city and got a crap load of gear).
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#29 CaptainAhab13
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Alright, I suppose I won't end up getting it if it is really *that* dead. :D I'll just stick to raiding in WoW with my guild.

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#30 KalDurenik
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The problems with warhammer online:

*Horrible start... I dont talk about server problems... I meant classes missing, towns missing, memory leak bugs, Animation / ability lag and not in sync at all..

*Content > bug fixes... What there are problems with the game? Well have this shiny new content!

*The forgoten classes... Magus, SW, BG and so on...

*The balance team balance the game like a drunk elephant on rollerblades. Aoe > single target 99.99% of the time... Why would one ever throw a single target ability?

*The game felt as if one group of people made and balanced the first parts of the game (1-21) then another group did everything else. With no communication or anything. Its total chaos. One level there is overall quiet balanced... The next level its AOE and CC feast.

Is everything bad? No... Tbh i would probably play again if you could stay at level 21...

*The tanks work in PVP compared to most of the games out there.

*Friend and foe target system

*Healers are not all about "HEAL HEAL HEAL HEAL" and can do other things at the same time (due to the target system)

*The RVR on the active server is fun atleast on the free trial... 100 vs 100 is fun.