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#51 biggest_loser
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@8-Bitterness said:

@SEANMCAD said:

My issue with the game is not the neat mechanics that everyone loves so much but rather that this mechanic (jumping) is basically the pillar for calling the game 'next gen'. At that rate of innovation it will be thousands of years before we get anything to much radically different then we have now

Hmm, I had always thought that their actual foundation for calling the game next-gen was utilizing the Azure cloud and their way of narrating the game's story being always online and all. For a console game this is actually pretty next-gen I think.

Even then, the movement mechanics in the game are very different from the vast majority of shooters currently and I think they're really good and totally a welcome addition. Just imagine if we get mod tools and the options for a sort of race mode or whatever, movement in the game is pretty baller man.

You could be waiting a while.

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#52 8-Bitterness
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@biggest_loser said:

@8-Bitterness said:

@SEANMCAD said:

My issue with the game is not the neat mechanics that everyone loves so much but rather that this mechanic (jumping) is basically the pillar for calling the game 'next gen'. At that rate of innovation it will be thousands of years before we get anything to much radically different then we have now

Hmm, I had always thought that their actual foundation for calling the game next-gen was utilizing the Azure cloud and their way of narrating the game's story being always online and all. For a console game this is actually pretty next-gen I think.

Even then, the movement mechanics in the game are very different from the vast majority of shooters currently and I think they're really good and totally a welcome addition. Just imagine if we get mod tools and the options for a sort of race mode or whatever, movement in the game is pretty baller man.

You could be waiting a while.

Yeah, well it'll all come down to what they feel like doing. I think it's a pretty worthwhile investment but if they release the game and then a sequel and then another sequel and so on we probably won't ever see mod tools. Don't get me wrong, it's still a great game, but they would be wasting a lot of potential.

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#53 BSC14
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Anyone know how many maps it's coming with? I like it but I sure hope it's got enough maps and unlocks to hold us over.

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#54 Arthas045
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@BSC14 said:

Anyone know how many maps it's coming with? I like it but I sure hope it's got enough maps and unlocks to hold us over.

I heard/read that its supposed to be like 13/14 maps.

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#55  Edited By Croag821
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I played a couple of rounds and it was fun, but I can't see myself playing it too long.

IMO it lacks depth, I was hoping it would have a MOBA feel to it but it just feels like a shooter with mechs and parkour. That being said it is a well done shooter so I'm sure it will sell good but I probably won't be spending $60 on it.

I also can't stand the fact they added a lock on pistol as a primary...

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#56 dzaric
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If anyone is willing to part with a PC code, can they please PM me.

Thanks.

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#57 Ballroompirate
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It's simply amazing, piloting a Titan is just freaking awesome when you try to do some crazy crap.

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#58 FelipeInside
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@Arthas045 said:

@BSC14 said:

Anyone know how many maps it's coming with? I like it but I sure hope it's got enough maps and unlocks to hold us over.

I heard/read that its supposed to be like 13/14 maps.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1y328g/titanfall_map_names_perks_ordinance_commands/

Some data miners got all the info.

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#59 dbtbandit67
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They look good on Xbox One.

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#60 whitey_rolls
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I think it's a really good game or at least has potential to be a really good game. It really depends what EA wants to do with it, if they start gouging people for every penny with day one DLC for $9.99 it'll be a downer but if there is enough content it's worth buying.

To be honest I can see this game being one of those games you buy the Xbox for over the PS4.

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#61 PcGamingRig
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crazily good fun lol.

Does anyone else get glitches on screen though? at times I can barely see lol.

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#62 Doom_HellKnight
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It's fun. Not sure how long that enjoyment would last, but at the moment... not bad.

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#63 whitey_rolls
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@PcGamingRig said:

crazily good fun lol.

Does anyone else get glitches on screen though? at times I can barely see lol.

Sure it's not caused by a grenade?

No glitches here and I'm running an AMD 5870 so my hardware is old

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#64  Edited By PcGamingRig
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@whitey_rolls: no, it was happening in the training also.

and it doesn't show in screen shots...

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#65 R4gn4r0k
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@FelipeInside said:

@Flubbbs said:

its pretty fun.. need to remove that shitty smart pistol. i just wonder how long it will be before the game gets boring

The smart pistol still needs 3 lock-ons to kill another pilot (human player) so it's not that OP.

I agree with the boring part, and hence why I might not buy this (and I'm burned on online FPS). The other levels really need to mix it up, and also they really need to push some kind of story forward because there was nothing of the sort in the beta.

People seem to be able to get 3 lock-ons while I'm emptying my clip of the Carbine or SMG on them :s

I've seen that a lot in the kill cam, they just stand there, taking all the bullets, waiting for the lock-on to happen and bam: you're dead.

The pistol is OP, and frankly I don't see what an auto lock-on pistol is doing in a competitive shooter.

And yeah, I agree. We've seen very little of the story elements they showed us in the trailers.

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#66 PcGamingRig
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Loading Video...

here is the problem I am experiencing, found it on youtube.

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#67  Edited By BSC14
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Anyone else getting stuttering?

Other than that I like it. I hope it's fun last....for some reason I'm a little concerned it won't.

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#68 theduckofdeath
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@PcGamingRig: No, haven't seen that problem until now. Looked like memory corruption. I think I saw a font set flash in there...

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#69 with_teeth26
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@BSC14 said:

Anyone else getting stuttering?

Other than that I like it. I hope it's fun last....for some reason I'm a little concerned it won't.

I was getting stuttering, turn Vsync off to fix it, you'll most likely get screen tearing though.

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#70 wis3boi
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Really enjoying the game and would buy it, but I don't feel it's $60 worth. It feels more like, say...CSGO. A smaller game for a smaller price. I'll wait for a price drop I think, but it is really fun.

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#71 FelipeInside
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@R4gn4r0k said:

People seem to be able to get 3 lock-ons while I'm emptying my clip of the Carbine or SMG on them :s

Could it be lag?

I've emptied whole magazines into someone and they just came up to me and kicked me, but I could tell it was cause of the 140ms lag.

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#72 demi0227_basic
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Shitty graphics, shitty gameplay. I was hoping for more.

It's way too fast, and there seems to never be a front. 8/10 times I die from behind, even though I keep my head on a swivel. Or mouse, I should say. There's always somebody behind you. I think they need a hell of a lot of balancing at this point too, especially so close to release.

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#73 R4gn4r0k
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@FelipeInside said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

People seem to be able to get 3 lock-ons while I'm emptying my clip of the Carbine or SMG on them :s

Could it be lag?

I've emptied whole magazines into someone and they just came up to me and kicked me, but I could tell it was cause of the 140ms lag.

I've had those situations as well. Liking some kind of magnetic attraction to a player who is meleeing.

Or seeing a completely other situation in the kill cam. Even with good pings :s

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#74 R4gn4r0k
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@wis3boi said:

Really enjoying the game and would buy it, but I don't feel it's $60 worth. It feels more like, say...CSGO. A smaller game for a smaller price. I'll wait for a price drop I think, but it is really fun.

Where do you live ?

Where I live only COD titles are 60 euro. 50 euro is the normal price for a new game but if you look around it can usually be found for way lower.

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#75 RevanBITW
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@demi0227_basic said:

Shitty graphics, shitty gameplay. I was hoping for more.

It's way too fast, and there seems to never be a front. 8/10 times I die from behind, even though I keep my head on a swivel. Or mouse, I should say. There's always somebody behind you. I think they need a hell of a lot of balancing at this point too, especially so close to release.

So it's not shitty gameplay, you're just shitty at the game. Fucking crybaby.

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#76  Edited By PcGamingRig
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Reinstalled my display driver and the on screen glitches went.

As for the game, it is very addictive. up to level 14 in a few hours.

may buy on release, depends on a few other games I am looking at.

Not really bothered by the graphics being dated.

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#77  Edited By deactivated-5a9b3f32ef4e9
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Got bored of it within 10 minutes.

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#78 demi0227_basic
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@RevanBITW: Aww...you are cute. People are everywhere...therefore I am a crybaby? Awesome.

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#79  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Having played it now, as suspected, hot air. I'm playing Hawken as well at the moment (I recently bought the Nemesis pack) and for mechs, that is much better, For a sci-fi team play game, Tribes Ascend is better. With unlocks and such, this will have longer appeal than it's current form. But highly, highly unimpressed.

I was reading eurogamer today and some dickhead was praising the smart pistol saying "oh never seen anything like it".

Well yea matey, AVP had it about a decade ago. And the multiplayer mash up of aliens/marines/predators was far more groundbreaking and diverse than Titanfall. Fucking gaming media just piss me off with casual bullshit.

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#80 with_teeth26
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@uninspiredcup said:

Having played it now, as suspected, hot air. I'm playing Hawken as well at the moment (I recently bought the Nemesis pack) and for mechs, that is much better, For a sci-fi team play game, Tribes Ascend is better. With unlocks and such, this will have longer appeal than it's current form. But highly, highly unimpressed.

I was reading eurogamer today and some dickhead was praising the smart pistol saying "oh never seen anything like it".

Well yea matey, AVP had it about a decade ago. And the multiplayer mash up of aliens/marines/predators was far more groundbreaking and diverse than Titanfall. Fucking gaming media just piss me off with casual bullshit.

people will most likely change their tune after they've had it for a few weeks and realize how shallow it is. IMO its a competitive FPS aimed at people who are generally intimidated by competitive FPS, and it does that well enough. You don't die as much since having a titan is the same as having a second life, you feel like you accomplish something by killing the AI fodder and the weapons have no recoil so you don't really need much skill.

People probably think this is trying to attract the CoD crowd but IMO is trying to attract the people who get intimidated by playing against others.

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#81  Edited By SerOlmy
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@with_teeth26 said:

people will most likely change their tune after they've had it for a few weeks and realize how shallow it is. IMO its a competitive FPS aimed at people who are generally intimidated by competitive FPS, and it does that well enough. You don't die as much since having a titan is the same as having a second life, you feel like you accomplish something by killing the AI fodder and the weapons have no recoil so you don't really need much skill.

People probably think this is trying to attract the CoD crowd but IMO is trying to attract the people who get intimidated by playing against others.

That would be my guess as well. Someone said I was being generous when I stated that it would be dead in 6 months, probably more like 3. It is a competitive FPS where 3/4 of the enemies are bots. And not just bots, but brainless, cannon-fodder bots similar to MOBA creeps. They literally just stand around waiting for people to shoot them. With 4+ second reaction time they will disinterestedly watch as you charge them and beat them to death without firing a shot. It is going to get old really quick. I can't imagine anyone who is into competitive FPS games playing this for more than a month, that is if they even buy it in the first place. Which leaves only noobs, bads, and griefers, none of which are good demographics if your monetization plan is to sell map packs every 2 weeks like EA inevitably will.

Combined with the fact that it uses Origin's abysmal multiplayer integration, disallows mods and custom rules/maps, and has no dedicated server support, it wont last on the PC. Maybe on the XBone. EA has flat out said they are never releasing the mod tools already.

All I can imagine due to the unbelievable amount of media driven hype is that EA is blowing their marketing budget on positive press coverage, because I have only seen 1 article in the last month that has been reasonably objective. Everything else has ranged from clickbait to obvious HJ given out in return for EA marketing $$$. I cannot wait until 2 weeks after launch and the whole thing implodes, because they have embargoed anything even remotely negative just like they did with SimCity or Take-Two did on ACM.

EDIT: I just noticed the big front page, week long splash. Are you f***ing kidding me? EA must be tossing money around like Martin Lawrence on a bender, because they literally have sites lining up with bags to carry away the cash after whoring themselves out with positive press coverage. I expect it from GS, but even Kotaku and Polygon (I seriously expected better from Kuchera) are getting in on it now. I guess I can take solace in knowing the eventual blowback will be very entertaining.

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#82  Edited By RevanBITW
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@demi0227_basic said:

@RevanBITW: Aww...you are cute. People are everywhere...therefore I am a crybaby? Awesome.

You're complaining that you're getting your ass kicked, therefore the game must imbalanced. Thats textbook scrub talk.

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It's not satisfying, you run around stomping braindead bots and the occasional human player.

Respawn succeeded in creating a game that's an even bigger ego boost than CoD.

.... wut?

I guess DoTA and LoL are ego boosts then because you have to kill bots to get stronger...

what kind of logic is this? oh right... FLAWED.

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#84  Edited By SerOlmy
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@MBirdy88 said:

@EatShanna said:

It's not satisfying, you run around stomping braindead bots and the occasional human player.

Respawn succeeded in creating a game that's an even bigger ego boost than CoD.

.... wut?

I guess DoTA and LoL are ego boosts then because you have to kill bots to get stronger...

what kind of logic is this? oh right... FLAWED.

Oh STFU with your false analogies. I have heard this same lame ass defense since the beta started. There is a big difference between MOBA creeps which are there to drag out early game progression and putting them in a skill-based shooter just to inflate the ego of bads. In competitive MP game people want to fight OTHER PEOPLE not bots, even Blizz figured that one out, they are cutting way back on the creep whack-a-mole in their new MOBA. The AI for grunts in Titanfall is literally braindead and completely harmless unless you are incompetent.

Whoever had the idea of including MOBA mechanics (specifically the ones that are the least enjoyable) in a FPS should be taken out back and shot. I mean who wants to mindless farm bots for 30 minutes at a time in a (supposedly) competitive multiplayer FPS?

Bots have a place in multiplayer FPS games, filling slots on a dead server until real player join. Not outnumbering players 3:1 when the match is 6v6.

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@demi0227_basic said:

@RevanBITW: Aww...you are cute. People are everywhere...therefore I am a crybaby? Awesome.

no... there are 6 people on these medium size maps. your awareness is the problem.

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#86  Edited By Cwagmire21
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ITT since people say that because a game is hyped to be the best thing since slice bread that it is now utter trash. Not decent, good, or great - just trash.

You do realize something can be good and popular, right? They are not mutually exclusive.

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#87  Edited By toddx77
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http://www.reddit.com/r/titanfall/comments/1xwtxg/beta_banding_bug_invisible_guns/

I am currently having the same problem as this guy. I followed the same instructions by trying to go to Go to the Nvidia control panel>Manage 3D settings>program settings>find titanfall and add it and select nvidia high performance processor below, but Titanfall isn't listed. I also tried Right click the application and there should be a choice that says "Run with graphics processor" Then you select "High-performance NVIDIA processor, but that didn't fix the problem. I am playing on a lap top and I heard people with lap tops are having this problem. My GPU is a Nvidia geforce gtx 660m.

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@SerOlmy said:
@MBirdy88 said:

@EatShanna said:

It's not satisfying, you run around stomping braindead bots and the occasional human player.

Respawn succeeded in creating a game that's an even bigger ego boost than CoD.

.... wut?

I guess DoTA and LoL are ego boosts then because you have to kill bots to get stronger...

what kind of logic is this? oh right... FLAWED.

Oh STFU with your false analogies. I have heard this same lame ass defense since the beta started. There is a big difference between MOBA creeps which are there to drag out early game progression and putting them in a skill-based shooter just to inflate the ego of bads. In competitive MP game people want to fight OTHER PEOPLE not bots, even Blizz figured that one out, they are cutting way back on the creep whack-a-mole in their new MOBA. The AI for grunts in Titanfall is literally braindead and completely harmless unless you are incompetent.

Whoever had the idea of including MOBA mechanics (specifically the ones that are the least enjoyable) in a FPS should be taken out back and shot. I mean who wants to mindless farm bots for 30 minutes at a time in a (supposedly) competitive multiplayer FPS?

Bots have a place in multiplayer FPS games, filling slots on a dead server until real player join. Not outnumbering players 3:1 when the match is 6v6.

Matches last 10 minutes... I never kill more than 10-20 at best (and that is usually only when titan steam rolling.

I disagree completely... bots filling slots is worse than an empty slot on other games. the whole game revolves around those "kills" on those games... it doesn't work, it was always a cheap crap fix to lure people onto empty servers. terrible.

Bot killing doesn't win you a match in Titanfall (well on its own.)

"bads" ... yea yea, WE DONT LIKE NEW IDEAS.

Blizz's MOBA isn't proven either... ya know. I can't imagine it holding a candle to the 2 big ones... but we will see.

"omg there are bots, people must be bad" pathetic.

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#89 SerOlmy
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@MBirdy88:

lol, creeps are not a new idea. They are just a BAD idea. In a supposedly skill-driven FPS they are an even worse idea. Because 75% of them time or greater they will be what you encounter.

It is not the one thing that is going to kill this game, although it is a deal-breaker in my book. My analogy is a battlefield injury. The bots + MOBA mechanics + shit AI are a sucking chest wound. The bad netcoding/Origin MP system is a nicked femoral artery. The lack of any mod support or dedicated servers on the PC is a skull fracture. And the map packs every other week that EA will force you to buy is a ruptured spleen. One alone might not kill you, but all of them together most likely will.

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@SerOlmy said:

@MBirdy88:

lol, creeps are not a new idea. They are just a BAD idea. In a supposedly skill-driven FPS they are an even worse idea. Because 75% of them time or greater they will be what you encounter.

It is not the one thing that is going to kill this game, although it is a deal-breaker in my book. My analogy is a battlefield injury. The bots + MOBA mechanics + shit AI are a sucking chest wound. The bad netcoding/Origin MP system is a nicked femoral artery. The lack of any mod support or dedicated servers on the PC is a skull fracture. And the map packs every other week that EA will force you to buy is a ruptured spleen. One alone might not kill you, but all of them together most likely will.

Lots of unproven doom and gloom.... sounds all bitter and pointless.

"The bots + MOBA mechanics + shit AI" - This alone is enough to facepalm and walk away, but I am a glutton for this kind of thing. it is being very well received.... you are the only special snowflake in this scanrio so obsessed with "EMEGHERD MP SKILL... hur dur must be players" rabbr rabbr rabbr.... shut up, you are not an esports player... life doesn't revolve around samey boring "who can click who fastests".

A.I difficulty - again facepalm worthy.... they are not meant to contend with you. that is the whole friggin point as you are well aware. what do you want? the "normal soldiers" to kill the hero soldiers easily? then the game gets incredibly tedious.... I'm glad your not designing games.... but let me guess your response? "BUH BUH ONLY TEDIOUS FOR "TEH BADZ""

Netcoding - please show me this bad netcoding, Killzone had bad netcoding... Battlefield to some extent has bad netcoding .... Titan Fall I have witnessed no such problems.... oh right, just more hate training... choo friggin choo.

MOd support - yea as much as I love mod support.... most games have been this way for a long time... doesn't deter from how good the game is. just limits its potential. if no mod support is a deal breaker... then thats very sad.... should be a bonus. didn't stop me playing any other game.... sounds rather "entitled" attitude to me.

Dedicate Servers ..... for a 6 vs 6 game? isn't it virtual dedicated servers through azure anyway? are you whining about this due to latency/ping? (neither of which is a problem... unless your in Australia) or the social aspect of it? on a friggin 12 player game. People use match making without choosing servers on CS:GO without complaiing... because ... you know, its nowhere near the end of the world.

... yea... because 5 DLCs (BF4) over 2 years is soooooo milking .... but i suppose everything should be free through mods.... for the special snowflakes... its not like the developers deserve money for extra support.... nope nope nope.

Oh I could go on, but you sound bitter.... its ok... not everyone likes every game, meanwhile while you rage about the "little things" most of which are entitled whining.. I will be enjoying this very fresh mix of CoD and Unreal tournement... and a tad of Hawken... with the other millions of people that find it fun...

I guess all of them are "badz" ... lulz.

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#91 Gamesterpheonix
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So, Ive played a bit of the beta and know that Im not buying this game anywhere near launch. From a technical perspective it has very disappointing performance. Years and years of tested gaming with the source engine and there is just lag everywhere. I cant get over the stutter that permeates the game.

Now from a gameplay perspective the bots are annoying, gunplay is cheap, the game is more on the side of stupid chaotic, and there is literally no weight to anything. The titans feel like oversized human bodies with no feeling of gravity attached and the abilities and guns seem gimmicky. There arent really any tactics involved. You shoot til whatever it is - is dead. I know some may hate hearing this but they didnt seem to learn anything from CoD other than its got addicting elements that sells games year after year to those without the care for quality.

Hell, Id even venture to say that MW2 was more tactical a game. I played 130 hrs of that game on PC and didnt think it was too bad. You had to be somewhat sneaky and somewhat skilled to be on top but theres none of that here.

Additionally, the only thing I really like about the maps is the background lol. I love seeing the small ships jump out. Other than that the jumping and wall walking is less than impressive and not as well utilized. Im happy that I can get to the top of a building quick but lol you dont really use it for tactics other than getting around quick and twitch killing the next thing you see.

This isnt a game changing shooter and I dont know if it will really even become a competitive shooter. Titans are paper models, bots are just distractions, weapons dont seem different, the look of the game is generic and basic and I dont know what else to see as positives. Dont get me wrong, its fun for like 15 minutes, but then its not...

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#92  Edited By 8-Bitterness
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So many people bad at the game and mad at it being popular. Wow guys.

You legitimately don't even get informed about the game, you are just repeating crap you hear off of other people and don't even question the validity of their (actually invalid) claims.

You don't take the time to look info up, you're bad at games, you're not even good as a critic and your opinions are pretty pointless since they're very uneducated.

Being different just for the sake of being different won't help you or make you look better at anything, especially if you have absolutely no valid opinions.

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#93 wis3boi
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@FelipeInside said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

People seem to be able to get 3 lock-ons while I'm emptying my clip of the Carbine or SMG on them :s

Could it be lag?

I've emptied whole magazines into someone and they just came up to me and kicked me, but I could tell it was cause of the 140ms lag.

tell everyone in the land down under to get on the shoreline and push your continent closer to civilization ;)

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#94  Edited By trugs26
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@FelipeInside said:

@Flubbbs said:

its pretty fun.. need to remove that shitty smart pistol. i just wonder how long it will be before the game gets boring

The smart pistol still needs 3 lock-ons to kill another pilot (human player) so it's not that OP.

I agree with the boring part, and hence why I might not buy this (and I'm burned on online FPS). The other levels really need to mix it up, and also they really need to push some kind of story forward because there was nothing of the sort in the beta.

I feel like it's OP'd. The fact that it indicates where players are is a big advantage in the first place.

I played the game properly for the first time just recently, and as soon as I was the chick with the smart pistol, I began dominating.

Anyways, the game to me is a bit boring. I love the feeling of running along walls, but the environments look so bland, and the combat itself - it just feels like a boring FPS to me. I'm still gonna play every night until the beta ends to determine how much I like it or not.

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#95 JangoWuzHere
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@trugs26 said:
@FelipeInside said:

@Flubbbs said:

its pretty fun.. need to remove that shitty smart pistol. i just wonder how long it will be before the game gets boring

The smart pistol still needs 3 lock-ons to kill another pilot (human player) so it's not that OP.

I agree with the boring part, and hence why I might not buy this (and I'm burned on online FPS). The other levels really need to mix it up, and also they really need to push some kind of story forward because there was nothing of the sort in the beta.

I feel like it's OP'd. The fact that it indicates where players are is a big advantage in the first place.

I played the game properly for the first time just recently, and as soon as I was the chick with the smart pistol, I began dominating.

Anyways, the game to me is a bit boring. I love the feeling of running along walls, but the environments look so bland, and the combat itself - it just feels like a boring FPS to me. I'm still gonna play every night until the beta ends to determine how much I like it or not.

It's not op

If it's carbine vs smart pistol in a fire fight, the carbine will win pretty much every time. If an enemy goes behind a wall or out of range, the smart pistol loses its lock and needs to be go through the lock on process again. If an enemy is using cloak, the smart pistol takes forever to lock on. The manual aim for the smart pistol is trash and isn't likely to hit crap.

The smart pistol is ideal for players that want to be stealthy or take out grunts. However, it takes longer to kill pilots and has no range whatsoever.

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Smart pistol is best for grunts, definitely. got over 40 kills on foot at one point and it is regularly 20+.

I would prefer if the game was player only though, but it would need bigger servers than 6v6.

I barely use my titan, put it on auto guard mode.

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#97 BSC14
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I think it needs to be slowed down a little. It's a bit too Unreal but that said I do like it.

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Imna try and succinctly summarize my many feelings on this beta in a few words. I have to say overall I do have fun playing this game and am still strongly considering purchasing it when it comes out.

I've been rolling deep in shooters for well over a decade. My all-time shooter of choice was Counter-Strike, first 1.6 then the Source version (I had the very first CS beta 1.0 way back!) I also love the Battlefield series, though I haven't had the chance to play 4 yet. COD game mechanics and gamefeel have never been my favorite. I always felt as though COD sacrificed core mechanics in the interest of accessibility. Contrarily, I played the hell out of MW2 on xbox and enjoyed myself quite a bit. I own no COD games past MW2 because I played enough of that game to get franchise fatigue. This game still feels remarkably like a COD game, in terms of run and gun mechanics. The things I hate about COD games are alive and well in this game. That includes:

-Random spawning. This was mentioned above - I feel and have always felt the fact that you can spawn "randomly" throughout the map, with a high likelihood of spawning behind or around someone who just cleared the area you're in, is garbage. This ruined a lot of the fun for me in COD, and detracted substantially from the skill involved.

-Mechanics which, in my opinion, are kinda more about accessibility than about core skill. Stuff like "burn cards" (I think of these like "perks" from COD), and things like an auto-targeting pistol. I love the look, the art, the animation, and the idea of the auto-targeting pistol, especially in a sci-fi context, but I think it sucks in a skill-based FPS game, and the developers commented that it enhances accessibility to new players more than anything else. I'd love to see it in a sci-fi movie though.

-The ever-present "he who sees first kills first" flow of action. If you've played shooters outside of the COD series you know what I'm talking about. This feels present enough, although it bothers me less the more I play the beta. The parkour stuff helps mix it up a bit.

I'm also really on the fence about the bot issue. It makes the battlefield feel more populated, but shooting bots in lieu of players is incredibly unsatisfying. I've had instances where, forced to make a split second decision between two targets, I targeted a bot and was immediately shredded by a player in the same vicinity. As I play more I get a better feel for recognizing who's who.

I understand the need to make this 6v6... too many players with too many titans would be ridiculous. Though it seems to me the solution would be to make epic maps ? Maybe this sounds "typical" being that I'm a guy who much prefers Battlefield over COD, but I kinda wish this was Battlefield with mechs, rather than COD with mechs.

All of that said, I am having a lot of fun playing this beta. It feels pretty balanced and polished for what it is, and I want to play more. So strongly considering purchasing this on xbox 360 (it'll overheat my laptop!!)

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#99 Gamesterpheonix
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@agent_cooper302:

Exactly how I see it. A few people complain about us talking down the game but if we're making valid points then there has to be some real issues here. The devs didnt even try to separate themselves from CoD in play style. You run like you do in CoD, you shoot (with no recoil) like you do in CoD, and you have the same lightweight floaty movement of CoD. And yes, killing bots just before getting killed by a cloaked real player beside you is extremely annoying. I dont want to fight using a titan if its just going to feel like I got a red mushroom and grew in size rather than just entered a heavy piece of machinery.

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#100  Edited By Arthas045
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@wis3boi said:

@FelipeInside said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

People seem to be able to get 3 lock-ons while I'm emptying my clip of the Carbine or SMG on them :s

Could it be lag?

I've emptied whole magazines into someone and they just came up to me and kicked me, but I could tell it was cause of the 140ms lag.

tell everyone in the land down under to get on the shoreline and push your continent closer to civilization ;)

Some matches I have noticed high latency with other players. I played one match where people were in the 300s. I am normally in the 10s to single digits and I was even at 86 on that match.