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"You have probably seen rumors on the web that Assassin's Creed II and Silent Hunter 5 have been cracked," it said in reference to the earlier report of submarine sim Silent Hunter 5 having been cracked to work without being online constantly.
Ubi added: "Please know that this rumor is false and while a pirated version may seem to be complete at start up, any gamer who downloads and plays a cracked version will find that their version is not complete."
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Ubi added: "Please know that this rumor is false and while a pirated version may seem to be complete at start up, any gamer who downloads and plays a cracked version will find that their version is not complete."
pirates play for free...they won't even care if the version they downloaded is complete or not. why won't Ubi admit that they failed miersably?
Yeah, because you know, Ubisoft wouldn't possibly be doing any damage control or PR fluff to downplay everything. Even if they had some safeguard measures in case someone tried cracking the game, do you really think the hackers won't fix that too? Remember the Batman: AA issue? Well crackers fixed that too.zomglolcats
^^ What he said, "its not complete" How it is not complete ubisoft? Copy protection bugs? They will be fixed by hackers. Patches? Hacked patches will come out, it has happen with many games. No dlc? I thought they pay full price for the dlc included not downloaded afterwards. But name one pirated game that the dlc has not being pirated. How is it not complete? Explain me? No dlc? it is till complete. Levels missing? Or the game crashing? It will be fixed when the "complete release" is out.
Seriously, how exactly it is not complete and how exactly cannot be completed? As far as i know the pirated version is the same as the actual game since its the exact same data. The only diffirence is the authentication methods which are keep on getting fooled since the dawn of time.
Unless the "pirated version" Is something like the well known batman AA version pirated version which was put on the internet by the developers themselfs. Which remind me that something similar happen with the first assasin's creed and both issues in both versions were fixed. Sorry ubisoft but you failed misserbly.Once again pirates get the "better" version and the complete one. But seriously what they mean "it is not complete" I would prefer a 40 bucks assasin creed without the dlc which would be "not complete" rather a "full" :roll: version that will include the dlc with online saving drm system and 60 bucks price. I would prefer the "limited" edition. Thats why i am gonna buy the ps3 version. Nobody buy this game on pc, boycott it.
What a waste of money...
They are...if there were no pirates there would be no DRM like this...fact. Don't be pissed with Ubisoft, be pissed at all the cheap jerks ripping them off. Eh whatever, that's probably you anyways even if you don't admit it. It's probably 90% of the people who post on these boards in reality if piracy rates say anything about the percent of gamers who pirate.Renevent42It's a circular effect now. Piracy caused DRM. But now DRM causes more piracy. Piracy will never go away, that will remain a constant. Unless you pull the plug on the internet. But then someone would sell bootlegs out of their van. As I see it, there is absolutely nothing a developer/publisher can do to stop hard core piracy. They only need to make it difficult for the casual copiers. In other words, disc checks, even a one time online activation. But anything really beyond that is pushing it. The fact of the matter is, if someone really wants to pirate the game, they will always find a way. Devs just need to focus on minimal DRM to keep honest people honest. And offer more incentives to actually own the real copy.
lol True.:POf course it's not complete, it doesn't have the rubbish DRM:lol:
Baranga
[QUOTE="Renevent42"]They are...if there were no pirates there would be no DRM like this...fact. Don't be pissed with Ubisoft, be pissed at all the cheap jerks ripping them off. Eh whatever, that's probably you anyways even if you don't admit it. It's probably 90% of the people who post on these boards in reality if piracy rates say anything about the percent of gamers who pirate.zomglolcatsIt's a circular effect now. Piracy caused DRM. But now DRM causes more piracy. Piracy will never go away, that will remain a constant. Unless you pull the plug on the internet. But then someone would sell bootlegs out of their van. As I see it, there is absolutely nothing a developer/publisher can do to stop hard core piracy. They only need to make it difficult for the casual copiers. In other words, disc checks, even a one time online activation. But anything really beyond that is pushing it. The fact of the matter is, if someone really wants to pirate the game, they will always find a way. Devs just need to focus on minimal DRM to keep honest people honest. And offer more incentives to actually own the real copy. I don't really buy that...games with no DRM get pirated at astronomical rates as well. The reason why people pirate is has remained constant since it first starting happening: Free > $$$ And that's the bottom line, it's been going on forever the real difference between today and 20 years ago is how easy it is to pirate a game these days. Torrents and broadband has turned something that once was primarily something done between a group of friends into a copy getting leaked and a group distributing it to a "million of their closest friends"
[QUOTE="zomglolcats"][QUOTE="Renevent42"]They are...if there were no pirates there would be no DRM like this...fact. Don't be pissed with Ubisoft, be pissed at all the cheap jerks ripping them off. Eh whatever, that's probably you anyways even if you don't admit it. It's probably 90% of the people who post on these boards in reality if piracy rates say anything about the percent of gamers who pirate.Renevent42It's a circular effect now. Piracy caused DRM. But now DRM causes more piracy. Piracy will never go away, that will remain a constant. Unless you pull the plug on the internet. But then someone would sell bootlegs out of their van. As I see it, there is absolutely nothing a developer/publisher can do to stop hard core piracy. They only need to make it difficult for the casual copiers. In other words, disc checks, even a one time online activation. But anything really beyond that is pushing it. The fact of the matter is, if someone really wants to pirate the game, they will always find a way. Devs just need to focus on minimal DRM to keep honest people honest. And offer more incentives to actually own the real copy. I don't really buy that...games with no DRM get pirated at astronomical rates as well. The reason why people pirate is has remained constant since it first starting happening: Free > $$$ And that's the bottom line, it's been going on forever the real difference between today and 20 years ago is how easy it is to pirate a game these days. Torrents and broadband has turned something that once was primarily something done between a group of friends into a copy getting leaked and a group distributing it to a "million of their closest friends" You're missing the point though. Yes, games with no DRM get pirated. But how far do you go to try and prevent something from happening that will happen regardless? Look at what they are doing at Ubisoft. It's gotten to the point where they are punishing the consumers for buying their products, and the kicker? It's not even going to stop what it was designed to stop in the first place. It's going to be pirated regardless, so why shackle it with ridiculous DRM that is going to drive away customers?
By incomplete they actually meant unplayable except launching it right now. They are talking about the present. Of course it is going to be cracked eventually, nobody expects it to end piracy immediately but right now you can't play it unless you buy it. Beleive it or not, this brings a lot of sales because the initial sales are the biggest part of the total sale figures of games. Consider the inpatient nature of the gamers, you can understand that they are actually achiving their goal.
This sheer hate that is flowing towards Ubi is a bit undeserved I think. In essence, they are a firm trying to protect their business. Yes the actual paying gamers are paying the price of this by having a crappy DRM and you may call this being selfish. Yet you blame them, insult them because they try to protect their work and this somehow interferes with your game experience. How are you any different?
This DRM is rubbish. I would never buy a game with a DRM like that. But ffs, be logical, use your commonsense, they are not just some ass*** trying to mess their rep and **** their customers. They are not the "bad guy" you are looking for. Also DRM do not increase piracy rates and no DRM do not decreace it. AC 1 had no DRM and it was pirated to hell, even before the actual release. What would you expect them to do.
Think before posting people. Oh well...this is internet.
Spore had one of the highest piracy rates. Was the DRM outrage partially to blame? I think at least partially, but there's no real way to measure that.By incomplete they actually meant unplayable except launching it right now. They are talking about the present. Of course it is going to be cracked eventually, nobody expects it to end piracy immediately but right now you can't play it unless you buy it. Beleive it or not, this brings a lot of sales because the initial sales are the biggest part of the total sale figures of games. Consider the inpatient nature of the gamers, you can understand that they are actually achiving their goal.
This sheer hate that is flowing towards Ubi is a bit undeserved I think. In essence, they are a firm trying to protect their business. Yes the actual paying gamers are paying the price of this by having a crappy DRM and you may call this being selfish. Yet you blame them, insult them because they try to protect their work and this somehow interferes with your game experience. How are you any different?
This DRM is rubbish. I would never buy a game with a DRM like that. But ffs, be logical, use your commonsense, they are not just some ass*** trying to mess their rep and **** their customers. They are not the "bad guy" you are looking for. Also DRM do not increase piracy rates and no DRM do not decreace it. AC 1 had no DRM and it was pirated to hell, even before the actual release. What would you expect them to do.
Think before posting people. Oh well...this is internet.
Requem
[QUOTE="zomglolcats"][QUOTE="Renevent42"]They are...if there were no pirates there would be no DRM like this...fact. Don't be pissed with Ubisoft, be pissed at all the cheap jerks ripping them off. Eh whatever, that's probably you anyways even if you don't admit it. It's probably 90% of the people who post on these boards in reality if piracy rates say anything about the percent of gamers who pirate.Renevent42It's a circular effect now. Piracy caused DRM. But now DRM causes more piracy. Piracy will never go away, that will remain a constant. Unless you pull the plug on the internet. But then someone would sell bootlegs out of their van. As I see it, there is absolutely nothing a developer/publisher can do to stop hard core piracy. They only need to make it difficult for the casual copiers. In other words, disc checks, even a one time online activation. But anything really beyond that is pushing it. The fact of the matter is, if someone really wants to pirate the game, they will always find a way. Devs just need to focus on minimal DRM to keep honest people honest. And offer more incentives to actually own the real copy. I don't really buy that...games with no DRM get pirated at astronomical rates as well. The reason why people pirate is has remained constant since it first starting happening: Free > $$$ And that's the bottom line, it's been going on forever the real difference between today and 20 years ago is how easy it is to pirate a game these days. Torrents and broadband has turned something that once was primarily something done between a group of friends into a copy getting leaked and a group distributing it to a "million of their closest friends" No drm, with drm... no diffirence for the pirates. They dont have to worry about drm, they disable it with the ways the crackers groups have provided and never have to worry about it. So the one who is annoyed is the buyer. I wouldnt say games with no copy protection are pirated more. It has to do with the game. So far we have seen that games are pirated by the release date no matter how tough the anti piracy methods are. So no, not having drm does not mean ="astronomical piracy rates" It purelly has to do with how many people want the game. Also what you would prefer to buy? A game with no copy protection like prince of persia or a 60 bucks drm fest like assasin creed 2?
Well lets look at it this way. As more and more games get shipped with increasingly ridiculous DRM schemes, people who might not have otherwise thought about pirating might actually contemplate it. Of course, there's no way to extrapolate any real numbers from that, but it's a logical assumption. Me personally, I'm not buying the game, but I'm not going to pirate it either. So at the very least, they still lose sales.
Well lets look at it this way. As more and more games get shipped with increasingly ridiculous DRM schemes, people who might not have otherwise thought about pirating might actually contemplate it. Of course, there's no way to extrapolate any real numbers from that, but it's a logical assumption. Me personally, I'm not buying the game, but I'm not going to pirate it either.zomglolcats
It's logical, and in all certainty does happen. The issue is, to what effect? What percent of these moral objectors are actual customers for Ubisoft games in the first place? What percent of people would purchase the game had they not be able to get it for free?
Nobody knows these numbers, but I can assure you that's the line of thinking Ubisoft is working off of...they would not have invested all this money into DRM had there not at least been some confidence that *attempting* to stop piracy had some sort of pay-off in the end.
Misguided? Just wrong? I dunno, there's no actual numbers to really say...but one thing is for sure the bean counters at Ubisoft seem to believe so and if any of you think they are stupid people you seriously underestimate them.
[QUOTE="Requem"]Spore had one of the highest piracy rates. Was the DRM outrage partially to blame? I think at least partially, but there's no real way to measure that.By incomplete they actually meant unplayable except launching it right now. They are talking about the present. Of course it is going to be cracked eventually, nobody expects it to end piracy immediately but right now you can't play it unless you buy it. Beleive it or not, this brings a lot of sales because the initial sales are the biggest part of the total sale figures of games. Consider the inpatient nature of the gamers, you can understand that they are actually achiving their goal.
This sheer hate that is flowing towards Ubi is a bit undeserved I think. In essence, they are a firm trying to protect their business. Yes the actual paying gamers are paying the price of this by having a crappy DRM and you may call this being selfish. Yet you blame them, insult them because they try to protect their work and this somehow interferes with your game experience. How are you any different?
This DRM is rubbish. I would never buy a game with a DRM like that. But ffs, be logical, use your commonsense, they are not just some ass*** trying to mess their rep and **** their customers. They are not the "bad guy" you are looking for. Also DRM do not increase piracy rates and no DRM do not decreace it. AC 1 had no DRM and it was pirated to hell, even before the actual release. What would you expect them to do.
Think before posting people. Oh well...this is internet.
zomglolcats
Yes the DRM outrage is partially to blame in Spore's case. But Spore is an exception and it would be naive to think that even without DRM, the piracy rates would be significantly different.
This DRM scheme may shift some customers towards to piracy right. I for one, won't buy the game (at least until the DRM is removed and the price is lowered I have no rush) and won't pirate it.But as I said earlier, this DRM is to protect the initial sales and if the added profit from the increased initial sales is higher than the loss from the departed customers from the new DRM, it is fair business.
"So no, not having drm does not mean ="astronomical piracy rates" It purelly has to do with how many people want the game."You totally misinterpreted my statement...Renevent42Not having drm means definetly one thing, more sales. Buyers hated drm from the very first use. Also its not like drm is making the game harder to pirate it. Crackers have disabled the protection and authentication. So all pirates do, is download and apply those hacks. Its not like they get a hard time to make the game work, that has been done already by the crackers.
I swear to God sometimes I think the entire game development and publication industry is run by children.
"Hey we cracked your game, nya nya nya"
"No you didn't! Shutup!"
"Yea we did!"
OMG ....what a bunch of peopels :D
Dudes its simple :
A grocery seller(Ubisoft)--->sells his goods on 3 markets(PC,xbox360,PS3).Every market has 100 potential costumers.
On the xbox market the seller has 50 legit costumers and 50 are stealing from his shop.
On the PS3 the seller has 90 legit costumers and 10 are stealing from his shop.
On the PC market the seller has 10 legit costumers and 90 are stealing from his shop.
Now is obviously that he makes profit only on 2 markets...
He has only 2 options regarding the PC market: To hire some bodyguards and those bodyguards will make a full search on every person who leaves his store...Or to close his shop in the PC market.
But 5 out of the 10 legit costumers from the PC market revolted and said they will no longer buy his grocerys if he hires bodyguards to search them...
so even with those 10 legit costumers he is not making profit on the PC market...do you think the seller cares if he lose 5 of them?HE DOSENT MAKE ANY PROFIT TO BEGIN WITH!!!!So even if all those 100 potential costumers would turn in to thieves will make no difference...
You guys should pray and hope that Ubisoft will not close his shop on the pc market!!!
And one more thing...developers and publishers dosent owe us pc gamers nothing...if we like their games we buy it if not we dont buy, is that simple!
if you dont like the new DRM you can allways buy a console...If you own a pC that dosent mean the devs must make a game for the PC just coz you have a PC!!!
ITS THAT SIMPLE YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU DONT BUY IT!Ubisoft dosent owe me or any other pc gamer nothing!!!!Ubisoft can do whatever they want with their products/games!!!No one is forcing you to buy them!!!!Jesusssss.................
I agree with that little "shop" thing you did, which is why us PC gamers have been getting pushed to the side a lot now.OMG ....what a bunch of peopels :D
Dudes its simple :
A grocery seller(Ubisoft)--->sells his goods on 3 markets(PC,xbox360,PS3).Every market has 100 potential costumers.
On the xbox market the seller has 50 legit costumers and 50 are stealing from his shop.
On the PS3 the seller has 90 legit costumers and 10 are stealing from his shop.
On the PC market the seller has 10 legit costumers and 90 are stealing from his shop.
Now is obviously that he makes profit only on 2 markets...
He has only 2 options regarding the PC market: To hire some bodyguards and those bodyguards will make a full search on every person who leaves his store...Or to close his shop in the PC market.
But 5 out of the 10 legit costumers from the PC market revolted and said they will no longer buy his grocerys if he hires bodyguards to search them...
so even with those 10 legit costumers he is not making profit on the PC market...do you think the seller cares if he lose 5 of them?HE DOSENT MAKE ANY PROFIT TO BEGIN WITH!!!!So even if all those 100 potential costumers would turn in to thieves will make no difference...
You guys should pray and hope that Ubisoft will not close his shop on the pc market!!!
And one more thing...developers and publishers dosent owe us pc gamers nothing...if we like their games we buy it if not we dont buy, is that simple!
if you dont like the new DRM you can allways buy a console...If you own a pC that dosent mean the devs must make a game for the PC just coz you have a PC!!!
ITS THAT SIMPLE YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU DONT BUY IT!Ubisoft dosent owe me or any other pc gamer nothing!!!!Ubisoft can do whatever they want with their products/games!!!No one is forcing you to buy them!!!!Jesusssss.................
rhazzy
In that case i will pray that they leave the PC market alltogether! They have not released anything good for PC and they only seem to want to screw their customers over anyway so.
If they do that i might go and become religious!
In that case i will pray that they leave the PC market alltogether! They have not released anything good for PC and they only seem to want to screw their customers over anyway so.
If they do that i might go and become religious!
KalDurenik
How do they want to screw their customers over? You need to back up your statements.
I agree with the guy that made the grocery store comparison. All you people need to stop whining about DRM. If you spent thousands or millions or whatever it costs to make whatever game, you would want to protect it too. Maybe if there wasn't so much piracy Ubi wouldn't have to use DRM because they would actually have people buying the games and they'd be making an honest profit. Instead they have to see their sales numbers of x and then see that their game has been pirated and download y amount of times more than they sold.
They are just trying to protect their business, and nobody can blame them for that. If you want Ubi to stop putting DRM on their games then you should support them, and go out and buy the game. Cause if you buy the game instead of downloading it, the money goes into their pocket and the can sell more copies rather than having to worry about how many people will pirate the game.
Just my 2 cents.
And also physical copy vs 0 and 1 its difrent things
Anyway in my opinion if i go out and buy a game that have been on consoles for 6 months for full price with DRM so heavy that if i droped it on the ground it would push eart out of its orbit around the sun... No sorry to much hassel for the price tag... Maybe if they droped the price to... 3$?
In that case i will pray that they leave the PC market alltogether! They have not released anything good for PC and they only seem to want to screw their customers over anyway so.
If they do that i might go and become religious!
KalDurenik
not to mention that, only if we are talking about 10% of their business ,the PC market still yields MILLIONS of dollars for them per year. No business is going to turn down millions of dollars
I love how Ubisoft left out the fact that MOST pirated games are actually incomplete to some extent or another, but they still work. When are game companies going to learn hackers don't just do it to play free games, they do it because it's a challenge, because they have something to prove to each other, because it's fun for them to make these companies look like retards.
Have to agree with this.OMG ....what a bunch of peopels :D
Dudes its simple :
A grocery seller(Ubisoft)--->sells his goods on 3 markets(PC,xbox360,PS3).Every market has 100 potential costumers.
On the xbox market the seller has 50 legit costumers and 50 are stealing from his shop.
On the PS3 the seller has 90 legit costumers and 10 are stealing from his shop.
On the PC market the seller has 10 legit costumers and 90 are stealing from his shop.
Now is obviously that he makes profit only on 2 markets...
He has only 2 options regarding the PC market: To hire some bodyguards and those bodyguards will make a full search on every person who leaves his store...Or to close his shop in the PC market.
But 5 out of the 10 legit costumers from the PC market revolted and said they will no longer buy his grocerys if he hires bodyguards to search them...
so even with those 10 legit costumers he is not making profit on the PC market...do you think the seller cares if he lose 5 of them?HE DOSENT MAKE ANY PROFIT TO BEGIN WITH!!!!So even if all those 100 potential costumers would turn in to thieves will make no difference...
You guys should pray and hope that Ubisoft will not close his shop on the pc market!!!
And one more thing...developers and publishers dosent owe us pc gamers nothing...if we like their games we buy it if not we dont buy, is that simple!
if you dont like the new DRM you can allways buy a console...If you own a pC that dosent mean the devs must make a game for the PC just coz you have a PC!!!
ITS THAT SIMPLE YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU DONT BUY IT!Ubisoft dosent owe me or any other pc gamer nothing!!!!Ubisoft can do whatever they want with their products/games!!!No one is forcing you to buy them!!!!Jesusssss.................
rhazzy
OMG ....what a bunch of peopels :D
Dudes its simple :
A grocery seller(Ubisoft)--->sells his goods on 3 markets(PC,xbox360,PS3).Every market has 100 potential costumers.
On the xbox market the seller has 50 legit costumers and 50 are stealing from his shop.
On the PS3 the seller has 90 legit costumers and 10 are stealing from his shop.
On the PC market the seller has 10 legit costumers and 90 are stealing from his shop.
Now is obviously that he makes profit only on 2 markets...
He has only 2 options regarding the PC market: To hire some bodyguards and those bodyguards will make a full search on every person who leaves his store...Or to close his shop in the PC market.
But 5 out of the 10 legit costumers from the PC market revolted and said they will no longer buy his grocerys if he hires bodyguards to search them...
so even with those 10 legit costumers he is not making profit on the PC market...do you think the seller cares if he lose 5 of them?HE DOSENT MAKE ANY PROFIT TO BEGIN WITH!!!!So even if all those 100 potential costumers would turn in to thieves will make no difference...
You guys should pray and hope that Ubisoft will not close his shop on the pc market!!!
And one more thing...developers and publishers dosent owe us pc gamers nothing...if we like their games we buy it if not we dont buy, is that simple!
if you dont like the new DRM you can allways buy a console...If you own a pC that dosent mean the devs must make a game for the PC just coz you have a PC!!!
ITS THAT SIMPLE YOU DONT LIKE IT YOU DONT BUY IT!Ubisoft dosent owe me or any other pc gamer nothing!!!!Ubisoft can do whatever they want with their products/games!!!No one is forcing you to buy them!!!!Jesusssss.................
rhazzy
Or they could stop being idiots, and just use Steam only. BOOM no pirates, and no DRM. win/win situation.
Steam was cracked eons ago =/ sure you cant play online but meh.
Btw...just to inform you guys...the cracked version of the game Silent Hunter 5 is playable only till some point.
So Ubisoft was right when they said ""Please know that this rumor is false and while a pirated version may seem to be complete at start up, any gamer who downloads and plays a cracked version will find that their version is not complete.""
Apparently on the cracked version of the game the squad morale is reseting to 0every time and the ship will colide bla bla bla...in one word you cant get past the missions because you die every time no matter what you do.
As fo Assassins Creed 2 there are several cracks out there wich allows you to play only a couple of minutes...because with those cracks you cant get past Animus(screen is turning white) and you cant accept missions either for the same reason...further more everytime you exit the game ur saves are deleted so you have to manually back them up and restore them when you start the game again.
So ill say this is a big step forward regarding the new DRM from Ubi...if they cant stop piracy at least give them hell when they try to play a cracked game!
I think a lot of peoples would prefer to buy the game instead of playing a cracked version where you have to manually restore ur saved game files every time you want to play the game....AND IT SEEMS THAT THE GAME DIDNT GET CRACKED BEFORE RELEASE EITHER!!!So yes till now the new DRM is worth all the investment Ubi put in it.
here is an article on this form a site :http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/03/05/unsilent-hunter-ubidrm-not-cracked-after-all/#more-26477
In short : Not much info but some reports say drm has no been fully cracked while some say it has benn but more indications point to teh fact tyhat ub is correct.
On another not, I would say UBI has one best of the PC exclusive/focussed lineups this year
* Silent Hunter V
* Setllers VII (looks pretyy good from previews)
* Anno Venice
* RUSE
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