Ubisoft Reducing their staff on pc games

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#1 blackdreamhunk
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http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=30548

here is a link about the subject. They are blaming Piracy on the pc

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lol...
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#3 OoSuperMarioO
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Honestly don't see what the fuss is all about, it's Ubisoft. Ubisoft bad ports existed on our platform for years only now their letting you know why those ports were disaster to begin with. I can't argue against their business model at all due to Ubisoft do develop games and are experiencing these issues as well as other developers. However being a PC gamer this can easily be solve by not buying their games and spending your money on games that are worth being installed on your PC.
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Completely lame excuse. They should develop an antipiracy solution and not give up
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#5 blackdreamhunk
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Honestly don't see what the fuss is all about, it's Ubisoft. Ubisoft bad ports existed on our platform for years only now their letting you know why those ports were disaster to begin with. I can't argue against their business model at all due to Ubisoft do develop games and are experiencing these issues as well as other developers. However being a PC gamer this can easily be solve by not buying their games and spending your money on games that are worth being installed on your PC.OoSuperMarioO
I would agree with you but I figured pc gamers every where have right to know.
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Completely lame excuse. They should develop an antipiracy solution and not give upkrazyorange
How about stop giving us bad ports.
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I DEFINITELY won't be installing any games from Ubisoft now, they're ports were bad enough as it is.
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#8 fatshodan
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Ubisoft hasn't released a great game since Sands of Time (or possibly TTT, but I didn't play it), so this is not really a big loss. If Far Cry 2 turns out to be awesome, then maybe we have something to be concerned with.

But until then, all we're losing is the developer of titles like Vegas, Assassin's Creed and Double Agent. Oh... no?

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The last Ubisoft game I purchased was Assassins Creed, with those lazy 16:9 boarders and that horrible pixelation bug that was later fixed in a patch.

Regardless, announcing they are reducing their PC staff isn't very smart. What company will go to them as a publisher; knowing that their decision to reduce staff for PC development could impact the quality of your game ported to PC?

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Do you know what's sad/ironic? One of the driving forces behind me buying that game was developer support, so many people were openly pirating the game and taking pride in their activity I vowed to buy the game in retail. I was angry at the pirates for their "screw everything, I want it all for free" attitude and buying the game was my way of saying FU right back at them.

Yet in the end it achieves nothing, the honest customers still get punished.

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See this is exactly what i am talking about. We are losing support from left to right and whats more pirates getting away with murder and we are the one paying for their crimes.
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#11 blackdreamhunk
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See this is exactly what i am talking about. We are losing support from left to right and whats more pirates getting away with murder and we are the one paying for their crimes.MarioJP_
more like people buying into the lies big cooperate companies! I wonder what would have happened if al gore became presedent in stead of bush. I think the world would have flet a little bite safer.
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#12 AnnoyedDragon
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more like people buying into the lies big cooperate companies!blackdreamhunk

It doesn't really matter if piracy is less of a threat as it is made out to be, what matters is developers are reacting to it as if it is real.

You will get pirates who will rationalize and argue their way into making their actions sound justifiable or none damaging, it still doesn't change that developers are reacting to their activities and the loyal customers are the ones who suffer as a result.

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[QUOTE="MarioJP_"]See this is exactly what i am talking about. We are losing support from left to right and whats more pirates getting away with murder and we are the one paying for their crimes.blackdreamhunk
more like people buying into the lies big cooperate companies! I wonder what would have happened if al gore became presedent in stead of bush. I think the world would have flet a little bite safer.

LOOL

no comment on that.

But one thing i want to stress is whether they are lies or not. My biggest fear is for the publishers we are losing what will replace them??. Becauuse if there are no replacements thats not very good. Seems like what they cannot control they will bail out and move to where the audience are brainwashed like george bush LOL. Yep i can see why they want to not focus on pc gaming anymore. Pc gamers are smarter and console gamers are plain brainwashed and are spoon fed.

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#14 MarioJP_
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"] more like people buying into the lies big cooperate companies!AnnoyedDragon

It doesn't really matter if piracy is less of a threat as it is made out to be, what matters is developers are reacting to it as if it is real.

You will get pirates who will rationalize and argue their way into making their actions sound justifiable or none damaging, it still doesn't change that developers are reacting to their activities and the loyal customers are the ones who suffer as a result.

Exactly said!

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#15 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"] more like people buying into the lies big cooperate companies!MarioJP_

It doesn't really matter if piracy is less of a threat as it is made out to be, what matters is developers are reacting to it as if it is real.

You will get pirates who will rationalize and argue their way into making their actions sound justifiable or none damaging, it still doesn't change that developers are reacting to their activities and the loyal customers are the ones who suffer as a result.

Exactly said!

yea that's when they go under too. I mean take a good look at interplay and fallout! Maybe lets take a look at the star wars mmo where they got their fan base up set.
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="MarioJP_"]See this is exactly what i am talking about. We are losing support from left to right and whats more pirates getting away with murder and we are the one paying for their crimes.MarioJP_

more like people buying into the lies big cooperate companies! I wonder what would have happened if al gore became presedent in stead of bush. I think the world would have flet a little bite safer.

LOOL

no comment on that.

But one thing i want to stress is whether they are lies or not. My biggest fear is for the publishers we are losing what will replace them??. Becauuse if there are no replacements thats not very good. Seems like what they cannot control they will bail out and move to where the audience are brainwashed like george bush LOL. Yep i can see why they want to not focus on pc gaming anymore. Pc gamers are smarter and console gamers are plain brainwashed and are spoon fed.

People vote with their dollar when it comes to the free market.

Games that sell millions of copies on consoles are selling less than 50,000 on PC.

Can you really blame them? They are obligated to make money for their shareholders and the PC market is probably losing them money.

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#17 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="MarioJP_"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="MarioJP_"]See this is exactly what i am talking about. We are losing support from left to right and whats more pirates getting away with murder and we are the one paying for their crimes.ViolentPressure

more like people buying into the lies big cooperate companies! I wonder what would have happened if al gore became presedent in stead of bush. I think the world would have flet a little bite safer.

LOOL

no comment on that.

But one thing i want to stress is whether they are lies or not. My biggest fear is for the publishers we are losing what will replace them??. Becauuse if there are no replacements thats not very good. Seems like what they cannot control they will bail out and move to where the audience are brainwashed like george bush LOL. Yep i can see why they want to not focus on pc gaming anymore. Pc gamers are smarter and console gamers are plain brainwashed and are spoon fed.

People vote with their dollar when it comes to the free market.

Games that sell millions of copies on consoles are selling less than 50,000 on PC.

Can you really blame them? They are obligated to make money for their shareholders and the PC market is probably losing them money.

As I see it the wii is wining, ps3 and the x360 is still in the hole. While the pc is world wide has the best selling games of all time.

As a invester i would bank my money on the wii or the pc! aleast then i know I would be making money not losing it.

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#18 Siofen
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Hmm... according to wikipedia

Also, some console manufacturers have begun to include the option to run homebrew software or even an alternative operating system on their consoles, so that a modchip will not be required for those purposes.WIKIPEDIA

It seems as if there is a forest fire in Ubisofts neighborhood, and simply jumping to the next house over which is not on fire yet is probably not going to save you.

I fear that as consoles become more and more like PC's, ubisoft actions seem like it'll come to no avail.

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#19 ViolentPressure
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[QUOTE="ViolentPressure"][QUOTE="MarioJP_"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="MarioJP_"]See this is exactly what i am talking about. We are losing support from left to right and whats more pirates getting away with murder and we are the one paying for their crimes.blackdreamhunk

more like people buying into the lies big cooperate companies! I wonder what would have happened if al gore became presedent in stead of bush. I think the world would have flet a little bite safer.

LOOL

no comment on that.

But one thing i want to stress is whether they are lies or not. My biggest fear is for the publishers we are losing what will replace them??. Becauuse if there are no replacements thats not very good. Seems like what they cannot control they will bail out and move to where the audience are brainwashed like george bush LOL. Yep i can see why they want to not focus on pc gaming anymore. Pc gamers are smarter and console gamers are plain brainwashed and are spoon fed.

People vote with their dollar when it comes to the free market.

Games that sell millions of copies on consoles are selling less than 50,000 on PC.

Can you really blame them? They are obligated to make money for their shareholders and the PC market is probably losing them money.

As I see it the wii is wining, ps3 and the x360 is still in the hole. While the pc is world wide has the best selling games of all time.

As a invester i would bank my money on the wii or the pc! aleast then i know I would be making money not losing it.

I don't know where you get your info, but a PC game is incredibly lucky to sell 250,000 copies, that's considered a massive success.

While on PS3 and X360 every other game sells a million or more it seems. Companies make millions of dollars on map packs and such as well.

It's just much more attractive for 3rd party developers to release games on the PS3/X360 these days.

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#20 ViolentPressure
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Hmm... according to wikipedia

[QUOTE="WIKIPEDIA"]Also, some console manufacturers have begun to include the option to run homebrew software or even an alternative operating system on their consoles, so that a modchip will not be required for those purposes.Siofen

It seems as if there is a forest fire in Ubisofts neighborhood, and simply jumping to the next house over which is not on fire yet is probably not going to save you.

I fear that as consoles become more and more like PC's, ubisoft actions seem like it'll come to no avail.

Heh, don't worry about that. Homebrew software is very tightly controlled and Linux on PS3 can't play anything more than a SNES emulator.

I mean sure, you can hack a 360 (not sure if PS3 has been hacked yet) but you can't connect to XBL ever. It's just too hard to do for most people.

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#21 MarioJP_
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[QUOTE="Siofen"]

Hmm... according to wikipedia

[QUOTE="WIKIPEDIA"]Also, some console manufacturers have begun to include the option to run homebrew software or even an alternative operating system on their consoles, so that a modchip will not be required for those purposes.ViolentPressure

It seems as if there is a forest fire in Ubisofts neighborhood, and simply jumping to the next house over which is not on fire yet is probably not going to save you.

I fear that as consoles become more and more like PC's, ubisoft actions seem like it'll come to no avail.

Heh, don't worry about that. Homebrew software is very tightly controlled and Linux on PS3 can't play anything more than a SNES emulator.

I mean sure, you can hack a 360 (not sure if PS3 has been hacked yet) but you can't connect to XBL ever. It's just too hard to do for most people.

not so with pc's i find that something can really happen if open source was very serious. Hombrew on the PC will be the ultimate thing for open source community. All thats needed is a taskforce to get together and start pushing these corporates where it hurts. Even IBM might jump on the Linux bandwagon and finally admitting that these corporates are going way too far.

with that said. If EA ever buys Valve and dismental steam. that is where i will draw the line with these coporate companies.

Believe it or not Open Source is the only thing left not being infected by monopoly companies. Seems like what i am seeing is the PC platform being pushed to the open source side forcelly. The main reason why there is lack of focus on Open source because of pc gaming and windows. But with that slowly fading away with statements like these regardless if piracy is a problem or not, lies or not. That does not matter because they are agreeing with it. And ultimately they are the one that can pull the plug not us.

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#22 AnnoyedDragon
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What I have noticed about game sales is they seem to stop reporting after a few weeks/months, despite the game still being on shop shelves or available through online distribution.

Crysis for instance, that is still selling, why did they stop counting at 1.5 million? Hell you can still pick up the first FarCry in most shops via the budget section, whose to say Crysis won't still be selling for a while? Yet all they will report is that 1.5 million selling on PC.

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I thought it was pretty clear after playing SCDA that Ubisoft couldn't give a damn about us, so I am pretty amazed that they found a way to care about us even less.
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But most impotantly. I put the blame on Microsoft for not doing enough with games for windows and focusing for their pc gaming user base. Even Microsoft is not that interested or not focused with pc gaming as it is with its 360.
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But most impotantly. I put the blame on Microsoft for not doing enough with games for windows and focusing for their pc gaming user base. Even Microsoft is not that interested or not focused with pc gaming as it is with its 360.MarioJP_

Microsoft entering the console market is one of those things you wish you had a time machine to go back and correct. The number one candidate to champion PC gaming, practically the owner of PC gaming, and then they make a damn console.

How many billions did they lose pushing that XBrick? How many billions more lost on the 360? Microsoft is a monopoliser; not a competitor, they are going stright for market share not revenue.

Windows is more important than any stake in the console market; yet they are cannibalizing their own Windows gaming market to push 360. DX10 is practically the only thing Vista has going for it that XP cannot offer, yet it sits in their blind spot while they fuss over the new kid. Gaming is the only activity Microsoft owns on PC, why the hell neglect it? If its wasn't for gaming, there is no arguable defence for switching to Mac or Linux.

I swear Microsoft seems idiotic at times, they would rather flush billions down the toilet to acquire a new market than support their existing one.

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[QUOTE="MarioJP_"]But most impotantly. I put the blame on Microsoft for not doing enough with games for windows and focusing for their pc gaming user base. Even Microsoft is not that interested or not focused with pc gaming as it is with its 360.AnnoyedDragon

Microsoft entering the console market is one of those things you wish you had a time machine to go back and correct. The number one candidate to champion PC gaming, practically the owner of PC gaming, and then they make a damn console.

How many billions did they lose pushing that XBrick? How many billions more lost on the 360? Microsoft is a monopoliser; not a competitor, they are going stright for market share not revenue.

Windows is more important than any stake in the console market; yet they are cannibalizing their own Windows gaming market to push 360. DX10 is practically the only thing Vista has going for it that XP cannot offer, yet it sits in their blind spot while they fuss over the new kid. Gaming is the only activity Microsoft owns on PC, why the hell neglect it? If its wasn't for gaming, there is no arguable defence for switching to Mac or Linux.

I swear Microsoft seems idiotic at times, they would rather flush billions down the toilet to acquire a new market than support their existing one.

Intel has enter the picture now soon the others will follow it's a whole new ball game.
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#27 thusaha
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[QUOTE="krazyorange"]Completely lame excuse. They should develop an antipiracy solution and not give uplettuceman44
How about stop giving us bad ports.

Agree.