Using 2 Graphic Cards

Ok Listen... GT210 is a Rebrand of actuall 8300GS similar : which is mean for less power consumation but was never mean for gaming for general gaming of today for maxing out fallout 3 with 2x to 4x aa within 1280x1024 / 1680x1050 and that when i say max you barely get 30fps with a HD4870 : and 74 fps with a 4870x2

while you see : 3Dguru NEVER Lies as source of information there really reliable : Xbits Lab how ever is the most Trusted Source there detail if you read everything is FLAWLESS in every domain going from HDD testing to Airflow test in a Case Showdown & Overclocking Comparison: but I must say 3Dguru is usually in the right path and make no mistake

while i must say i saw few mistake from tom hardware back to HD4870 vs 9800GTX in there benchmark age from there 2008-2009 for many reason : a benchmark done with bad gpu driver / not detailed benchmark of what they did : run the game at all max ? and lack of number game tested in some case but that about it : aside of that never think of them as BIASED information : if you doubt : watch similar test done by similar RIG : in the tech description and OS / Driver used

But I Like Xbits Lab & 3DGURU & Bit-tech they give very good information on many thing : honesty who would belief a guy who make so much wall of text with english grammar mistake with no punctuation ? and no screenshot of you'r Game Setup that show the FPS at like 54's in middle of a town / wasteland in Fallout 3 ?

1680 x 1050 would be the max I would personally use for 8800/9800GT cards, even if running them in SLI.

neatfeatguy

I'm not saying this from personal experience, but a buddy of mine is running a pair of G92 8800 GTS's in SLI, and Crysis was buttery smooth @1080P with a mix of high and very high settings on his system. So while 1080P might be pushing it with 512 megs of VRAM, I certainly wouldn't call it unplayable, granted if you're willing to fiddle with the settings a little. Benchmarks also point to the same conclusion, and it seems the 8800GTS SLI configuration only struggles in a minority of titles which hog a substantial amount of VRAM.

And on a side note, I feel sorry for the OP. The answers given should have been simple and consise, not unsubstantiated and overblown as seen on some of the answers.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="dawgrejectx"] you don't seem to understand your assuming i'm wrong cause you read it on the net, my info is factual, took it out put this in better results, unlike you guys telling this guy to maybe upgrade his PCU,CPU to run SLI mode that runs everything hotter waste more money and he's saying he's on a Budget. if the OP buys a 210 i promise he will get an upgrade over his , the 210 being a 2009 card is even compatible with windows 7 already were the 8800 might have problems, if the op ever upgrades his OSfrom The Crappy vista,i'm not asking the man to waste money spend less get better performance, if it doesn't work he can return the GPU. but he won't. i'm confident in this not because tom hardware said so(wich even your link were not correct in FPS i get)i know cause i did it myself, did you?dawgrejectx

[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"][QUOTE="dawgrejectx"] you don't seem to understand your assuming i'm wrong cause you read it on the net, my info is factual, took it out put this in better results, unlike you guys telling this guy to maybe upgrade his PCU,CPU to run SLI mode that runs everything hotter waste more money and he's saying he's on a Budget. if the OP buys a 210 i promise he will get an upgrade over his , the 210 being a 2009 card is even compatible with windows 7 already were the 8800 might have problems, if the op ever upgrades his OSfrom The Crappy vista,i'm not asking the man to waste money spend less get better performance, if it doesn't work he can return the GPU. but he won't. i'm confident in this not because tom hardware said so(wich even your link were not correct in FPS i get)i know cause i did it myself, did you?dawgrejectx

Okay, my dad just got a pre built(without my knowledge, dam him and his prebuilts) with a 210 in it, he tried playing games and complained about it, guess what i DID! I put a 500w psu and an 8800gt in his computer, and he is loving it! There is absolutely no doubt a 210 is worse than an 8800gt, hands DOWN! Please stop giving people wrong information, OP should get some more RAM and wait until the 4x0 series comes out. If prices drop a lil bit, i suggest a newer 5700 series later on, when the drop below 100 dollars.

[QUOTE="neatfeatguy"]

1680 x 1050 would be the max I would personally use for 8800/9800GT cards, even if running them in SLI.

MaoTheChimp

I'm not saying this from personal experience, but a buddy of mine is running a pair of G92 8800 GTS's in SLI, and Crysis was buttery smooth @1080P with a mix of high and very high settings on his system. So while 1080P might be pushing it with 512 megs of VRAM, I certainly wouldn't call it unplayable, granted if you're willing to fiddle with the settings a little. Benchmarks also point to the same conclusion, and it seems the 8800GTS SLI configuration only struggles in a minority of titles which hog a substantial amount of VRAM.

And on a side note, I feel sorry for the OP. The answers given should have been simple and consise, not unsubstantiated and overblown as seen on some of the answers.

I can get about 40fps (all on settings on high, no AA/AF, DX10) in Crysis on my 22" monitor (1680 x 1050) with my 2 8800GTS 512 cards in SLI.

I get better benchmarks over a GTX 280 with my 2 cards, however, the low memory hinders my performance in games like Crysis. A single GTX 280 I can get around 45fps in Crysis with the same settings. Only difference is the GTX 280 has 1GB memory, while I'm limited to 512 on my cards.

I could see how your friend would be getting similar results in Crysis as I do with my setup, even at a higher resolution. The limiting factor is basically the available memory these cards have of 512MB.

Also, I never said unplayable, I just said in my own preference I wouldn't want to game at a resolution higher than 1680 x 1050 with 8800GT card (even in SLI).

[QUOTE="dawgrejectx"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] As long Nvidia supports older cards with drivers for the newest OS's you wont have a issue using them. And again going to a 210 is a downgrade, who cares if its a 2009 card its bottom of the barrel in performance even comparing to mid ranged 2008 gpu's. 04dcarraher

that normal for not wanting 8800GT SLI non / sli on higher then 1680x1050 because there getting old card and new gpu such as HD4890 OC perform as good as TWO 8800Gt in some case hell i seen some 260GTX beating a 8800GT SLI depending of what rig you use for that tough you can get some 2009's detailed benchmark from other site but id have to find them :D there dozen of benchmark released every month from many website it normal : it a growing culture :)

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="dawgrejectx"]the performance isn't bottom of the barrel the websites you link is your source then i have news for you i get way more than 5 fps in far cry 2 and way more than 15 fps in batman on the settings they have, maybe the forceware when released was crappy or what but 40 fps in batman is what i just benchmarked on fraps and some of the sites you guys linked me were way off, so your source is BSdawgrejectx

I dont understand this at all, you want to improve his system, so you tell him to buy a GT 210, when he can get an applicable PSU for his 8800gt for the same dam price?

yeah even a 44.99$ PSU should work : even if they are BAD PSU :it should work in some case if it doesn't : well replace return the psu but anyway : It depending of what in ur rig also for the wattage :il explain you a bit how it work : : A gpu it self work with : IDLE : Peak 2D Stress : peak 3D Stess



in most of the case a cpu & motherboard with 2x2GB ram consume more wattage then the Actual gpu of newest generation : why is that ? Because the gpu consume at peak 40-80W and the cpu 80-125 W ? but then you add the HDD : 5-10W : and then the DVD Drive another 5-10W but in the end all those end up to a total power consumpation of 200-300W : if you'r psu is a 350W ?

can it run it : in most of case YES : but is it risky and could damage ur hardware /or simply won't work / but by damage it mean the psu RAIL AS TO to do an Actual Surge : it rare to observe in high quality psu : but common in budget psu such as : apeiva & sunbeam lowest psu

like this psu : the Sunbeam Hush PSU-HUSH580-US 580W ATX12V Power Supply - OEM : but honestly i wouldn't recommend those psu in any case unless you'r the one who like to gamble : maybe it will work well : maybe it will mess up in 90 day after you buy it : who know it up to you : review help to idenfity if there cheap or having issue

and you can take example of the HP Desktop Series Pavilion of 2008-2009 : ad a quite enough bad complain of PSU FAILURE / motherboard issue even it seem but that happen that some still work even with those Micro ATX 280W PSU & on-board Geforce 6150 :But HP Laptop ad much more failure rate : Nvidia GPU related specially :( but enough talking about the failure rate / Bad qualitty psu / Lemon product :D

so the fact a GOOD PSU AT 45-60$ WILL DO ALL you need with the CURRENT GPU such as 8800GT / 250GTS : but specially the ATI Series of HD4000x / 5000x such as HD4670/HD4770 /HD5670/HD5750/HD5770: because they offer low Idle consumation / LOW GPU Stress 3D / 2D result compare to Nvidia

so the fact a GOOD PSU AT 45-60$ WILL DO ALL you need with the CURRENT GPU such as 8800GT / 250GTS : but specially the ATI Series of HD4000x / 5000x such as HD4670/HD4770 /HD5670/HD5750/HD5770: because they offer low Idle consumation / LOW GPU Stress 3D / 2D result compare to Nvidia

marcthpro

my thoughts exactly.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="dawgrejectx"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] As long Nvidia supports older cards with drivers for the newest OS's you wont have a issue using them. And again going to a 210 is a downgrade, who cares if its a 2009 card its bottom of the barrel in performance even comparing to mid ranged 2008 gpu's. dawgrejectx

Everything you've said on this thread irritates me, your either a troll or a moron, every review website shows otherwise to what your are saying and I would trust a website that's been reviewing hardware for years over your opinion and you cant even provide the evidence to back up what you say.

[QUOTE="dawgrejectx"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No , just , no if you look, at those benchs, some are using AA so that will cut ur fps in half, but you must be running a very low resolution and medium-low settings like 1024x768 or lower to even getting near what you are saying your getting. If you really want to prove us wrong frap us FC 2 , showing your settings and playing the ride intro, or even the benchmark and post it on youtube with your name in title. steve216

Everything you've said on this thread irritates me, your either a troll or a moron, every review website shows otherwise to what your are saying and I would trust a website that's been reviewing hardware for years over your opinion and you cant even provide the evidence to back up what you say.

[QUOTE="steve216"]

[QUOTE="dawgrejectx"] would you like a blood sample to?i'm not gonna waste my time with all that BS, crap just trying to save the man some money but you guys have to be right because even though you yourself never put in a 8800 and replaced it like me for a 210(my PC was getting really sluggish and the power consumtion got better with the switch, for my low budget system, in my lower budget system the 210 outperforms the 8800, maybe if i had a nuclear facility in my PC the 8800 is better but the OP seems to have the same problems i did 8800 barley runs games? he's talking about being on a bduget. prob the pcu isn't strong enough for th 8800 so like i said the 210 would be an upgrade . sorry but it's tru. the 210 is far from being obsolete.dawgrejectx

Everything you've said on this thread irritates me, your either a troll or a moron, every review website shows otherwise to what your are saying and I would trust a website that's been reviewing hardware for years over your opinion and you cant even provide the evidence to back up what you say.

[QUOTE="steve216"]

[QUOTE="dawgrejectx"] would you like a blood sample to?i'm not gonna waste my time with all that BS, crap just trying to save the man some money but you guys have to be right because even though you yourself never put in a 8800 and replaced it like me for a 210(my PC was getting really sluggish and the power consumtion got better with the switch, for my low budget system, in my lower budget system the 210 outperforms the 8800, maybe if i had a nuclear facility in my PC the 8800 is better but the OP seems to have the same problems i did 8800 barley runs games? he's talking about being on a bduget. prob the pcu isn't strong enough for th 8800 so like i said the 210 would be an upgrade . sorry but it's tru. the 210 is far from being obsolete.dawgrejectx

Everything you've said on this thread irritates me, your either a troll or a moron, every review website shows otherwise to what your are saying and I would trust a website that's been reviewing hardware for years over your opinion and you cant even provide the evidence to back up what you say.

find me a source that agrees with you, that even you approve of

[QUOTE="Noxest"]

I see. Well, I only have a 2G Ram, and a Quad Core 2.sumtin hahaha dont remember. Do u think upgrading my Ram is a good move right now?

I can run Napoleon on max setting but it lag when i zoom into a big battle, this is why am asking about graphic card SLI

matte3560

the more ram u give it, the more it uses. it caches ur common stuff in the ram. 2gb is fine. 4gb is better (especially on 64bit), but not super noticeable.

[QUOTE="steve216"]

[QUOTE="dawgrejectx"] would you like a blood sample to?i'm not gonna waste my time with all that BS, crap just trying to save the man some money but you guys have to be right because even though you yourself never put in a 8800 and replaced it like me for a 210(my PC was getting really sluggish and the power consumtion got better with the switch, for my low budget system, in my lower budget system the 210 outperforms the 8800, maybe if i had a nuclear facility in my PC the 8800 is better but the OP seems to have the same problems i did 8800 barley runs games? he's talking about being on a bduget. prob the pcu isn't strong enough for th 8800 so like i said the 210 would be an upgrade . sorry but it's tru. the 210 is far from being obsolete.dawgrejectx

Everything you've said on this thread irritates me, your either a troll or a moron, every review website shows otherwise to what your are saying and I would trust a website that's been reviewing hardware for years over your opinion and you cant even provide the evidence to back up what you say.

Hey,

I may as well tag onto this post if you don't mind.

Maybe a very noob question, but can I SLI:

• a BFG 8800 GTS OC with a BFG 8800 GTS OC (G92)
• Also do I need a cable running between the two card?
• And can this motherboard support it?: Abit IP35 Pro (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

I'm watching an item on ebay so a quick answer will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Hey,

I may as well tag onto this post if you don't mind.

Maybe a very noob question, but can I SLI:

• a BFG 8800 GTS OC with a BFG 8800 GTS OC (G92)
• Also do I need a cable running between the two card?
• And can this motherboard support it?: Abit IP35 Pro (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

I'm watching an item on ebay so a quick answer will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Tyrone77

Dont bid on it. G80 GTS 320mb or 640mb have different cores with g92 and will not work in sli. The cable thing is more like a plastic piece that you place on top that should had came with the videocard or you can just buy it later. It should look transparent whether your MB supports it or not, does it have two pcie slots 16x/8x when you look open your case?

[QUOTE="Tyrone77"]

Hey,

I may as well tag onto this post if you don't mind.

Maybe a very noob question, but can I SLI:

• a BFG 8800 GTS OC with a BFG 8800 GTS OC (G92)
• Also do I need a cable running between the two card?
• And can this motherboard support it?: Abit IP35 Pro (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

I'm watching an item on ebay so a quick answer will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Dont bid on it. G80 GTS 320mb or 640mb have different cores with g92 and will not work in sli. The cable thing is more like a plastic piece that you place on top that should had came with the videocard or you can just buy it later. It should look transparent whether your MB supports it or not, does it have two pcie slots 16x/8x when you look open your case?

Hey,

I may as well tag onto this post if you don't mind.

Maybe a very noob question, but can I SLI:

• a BFG 8800 GTS OC with a BFG 8800 GTS OC (G92)
• Also do I need a cable running between the two card?
• And can this motherboard support it?: Abit IP35 Pro (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

I'm watching an item on ebay so a quick answer will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE="steve216"]

[QUOTE="dawgrejectx"] would you like a blood sample to?i'm not gonna waste my time with all that BS, crap just trying to save the man some money but you guys have to be right because even though you yourself never put in a 8800 and replaced it like me for a 210(my PC was getting really sluggish and the power consumtion got better with the switch, for my low budget system, in my lower budget system the 210 outperforms the 8800, maybe if i had a nuclear facility in my PC the 8800 is better but the OP seems to have the same problems i did 8800 barley runs games? he's talking about being on a bduget. prob the pcu isn't strong enough for th 8800 so like i said the 210 would be an upgrade . sorry but it's tru. the 210 is far from being obsolete.dawgrejectx

Everything you've said on this thread irritates me, your either a troll or a moron, every review website shows otherwise to what your are saying and I would trust a website that's been reviewing hardware for years over your opinion and you cant even provide the evidence to back up what you say.

superclocked would you mind read what a Intel chipset ? P35 doesn't sli :P how ever if he get more money over time he may buy HD5830 when it get low price or the ATI HD5770 + OC it a good bang for buck but meh it require money!!

Get a 5850 if you can just wait up for the price drop or MIR offers. I would feel very gipped if I purchased 5830 now @ 260ish the same price when 5850 had its initial batch.