Warhammer 40k Space Marine vs. Rage: Which will be better?

There's something he stuck in there that should have stuck out: IN MY OPINION... He's not trolling, he's answering the thread. Just because he didn't enjoy Super Meat Boy as much as everyone else doesn't mean he's a troll. As an ork would say: "Sod off." I tend to agree about Super Meat Boy in that it pushed no technical boundries. That is something that, IN MY OPINION, should also reflect in reviews when it comes to ratings that high. I also agree that his other thread was a troll thread, due to the way he put things. Phenomellama

So does it not apply to you or him?Getting hurt becausea game got 9.5 on GS .. Grow up! It is the reviewers choice to give the score and also for the fact that so many other people enjoyed it. And don't try to justify his trolling in other thread which is the reason why the thread got locked.

[QUOTE="Phenomellama"]

So now every game has to be the new Crysis to be good? We can't rely on, you know, gameplay in our games?

[QUOTE="Phenomellama"]

Rage was in development before Borderlands. And also, you've never played Borderlands, have you?

[QUOTE="Phenomellama"]Space Marine is Relic trying to get an awesome, established IP (40k) some more mainstream recognitionPhoenix534

Do you really think that some Gears of War knock-off is going to get Warhammer 40k any kind of mainstream recognition? Especially when they're releasing in the same month as Gears 3?

[QUOTE="Phenomellama"So does it not apply to you or him?Getting hurt becausea game got 9.5 on GS .. Grow up! It is the reviewers choice to give the score and also for the fact that so many other people enjoyed it. And don't try to justify his trolling in other thread which is the reason why the thread got locked.

harshv82

To get a 9.5, yes. The gaming industry isn't just about gameplay, it's also about pushing tech. Driving chipmakers to make things faster and better. If it was all about just gameplay, we wouldn't have any reason to buy a $300 graphics card and Sandy Bridge, would we? A 9.5 should go to the kind of game that will make people want to go out and buy hardware to play it. Chrono Cross on the PS1 was a 10. Did it deserve it? Hell yea; it's a JRPG that's actually fun, actually interesting, and it pushed the PS1 to the limits. It was great in all aspects; not even just from an opinion standpoint, but from a technical standpoint as well. And I don't even like JRPGs.

I beat Borderlands a bit after it came out; I'm talking about the feel of the setting. It just felt very Mad-Maxy. I beat it right after Fallout 3, and after going through Fallout 1 and 2 for the millionth time (while waiting for 3). I love post-apoc; Mad Max is actually the first movie I remember watching, ever. I'd just like to see Id do something different. Something that hasn't been done. I guess I'm just bitter towards them, maybe a little of it still being from Doom 3's meh-ness and Quake 4 getting thrown over to Raven to make something lukewarm. I know Hexen was done by Raven, but it's actually kind of interesting and not something you see every day. It's just...weird.

And have you seen a preview of SM? I don't see too much hiding behind cover, or running away and expecting all of your health to come back. Just because it's third person doesn't mean it's a Gears knock-off. Yea, release date could have been better, but maybe they are doing it on purpose, to see how well it will compete. Sounds bad, but what if the reviewers play SM and are wow'd by it, perhaps more-so than Gears? It's Relic; I don't remember Relic making a bad game. And besides, Gears is going to be a single platform release, while SM will be on all platforms (Wii not being a platform). Will Gears sell more in the first week? Sure. But I got faith in the Immortal Emperor, and faith in Relic, to give some love. Warm, gooey, bloody love.

Phenomellama

That's complete ****. A 9.5 is a score given to a game that does what is does above and beyond expectations. The fact that you hold graphics so highly is incredibly sad.

If you've played Borderlands than why do you keep calling it post-apocalyptic?

Yes, I have seen Space Marines coverage. It looks Gears-y. And Relic can make bad things. The Outfit is proff of that.

I don't have a knot in my stomach, you are the one who is posting aggressively/defensively.

Space Marine. Relic has a much better track record.

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Quake III and Quake IV were crap. However, Rage does look quite good. That being said, I think WH40k Space Marine will be better because of the Warhammer universe alone. The Warhammer universe is just awesome and very interesting with a great amount of lore to it. It is extremely unlikely that id Software can think of a better setting than the Warhammer universe. Also, the gameplay for WH40k Space Marine simply looks better than Rage.

I think it will most likely end up like this:

WH40k Space Marine = great graphics, awesome gameplay

Rage = awesome graphics, decent gameplay

I predict a score of 9.0 or higher for WH40k Space Marine.

I predict a score of 8.0 for Rage.

In my opinion, Relic Entertainment is simply a better game developer than id Software.

harshv82

My my aren't you an adorable troll. Aren't you the same guy saying super meat boy shouldn't get 9.5 and it sucks. You should probably ask employees of Relic. They all will agree id Software are better developers than them.

And why on earth would Relic ever say that id Software is a better developer than them, unless they were joking? Relic has better titles, a better track record, and is simply a better developer than id Software. id Software is living off the glory of some old shooters which weren't even that great when they were released. Quake 3 Arena was junk compared to Unreal Tournament (which was popular at the same time period). id Software games are notorious for being EXTREMELY SHALLOW. That being said, Rage does look better than id Software's previous releases but not quite as good as WH40k Space Marine. And the advertisements for Rage have been completely idiotic. That alone makes me not want to buy the game (but I admit that I may buy it eventually). At least Relic is doing serious no-nonsense advertisements for WH40k Space Marine, and not trying to be "hip" and "trendy" about it. Rage advertisements so far are extremely cheesy. And no matter what anyone says, WH40k Space Marine looks a lot more original in terms of theme and gameplay mechanics than Rage.

Space Marine. Relic has a much better track record.

airshocker

And why on earth would Relic ever say that id Software is a better developer than them, unless they were joking? Relic has better titles, a better track record, and is simply a better developer than id Software. id Software is living off the glory of some old shooters which weren't even that great when they were released. Quake 3 Arena was junk compared to Unreal Tournament (which was popular at the same time period). id Software games are notorious for being EXTREMELY SHALLOW. That being said, Rage does look better than id Software's previous releases but not quite as good as WH40k Space Marine. And the advertisements for Rage have been completely idiotic. That alone makes me not want to buy the game (but I admit that I may buy it eventually). At least Relic is doing serious no-nonsense advertisements for WH40k Space Marine, and not trying to be "hip" and "trendy" about it. Rage advertisements so far are extremely cheesy. And no matter what anyone says, WH40k Space Marine looks a lot more original in terms of theme and gameplay mechanics than Rage.

Baurus_1

1. Relic have different titles.

2. id has a great track record.

3. id practically invented FPS, so the 'glory' is all theirs.

4. Q3 Arena and UT have been a matter of taste for fans, last I checked.

5. You're a marketing analyst now? I haven't an issue with it; advertises the game well enough.

6. You're only half-right at best. Relic are drawing from GW established lore, so it's not exactly 'original', and the mechanics have all been done before. However, this is a moot point, as both games a completely different and I don't understand why people are comparing them to each other.