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I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".gigatrainerHey Slig0 just purchased almost the exact same TV! ;)
I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".gigatrainerThats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely.
I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".gigatrainer
[QUOTE="gigatrainer"]I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".Myzz617Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely.
Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely.[QUOTE="Myzz617"][QUOTE="gigatrainer"]I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely. Myzz617
A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.shawty1984
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
[QUOTE="Myzz617"] A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.
Myzz617
Off topic-you being here longer has nothing to do with what you actually know or what you think you may know. Try contributing to the community and learn on a daily basis rather than speaking in general. On topic-which is better a screen with a bunch of tight pixels squeezed together or a large screen with the same amount but more space to display them and a faster response time? You must live in a third world country where the movies project in a 15 inch format trying to say there is no difference esp when the response time is much longer, screen ratio difference and refresh rate, they all play a role in the type of image quality you get not just the end result resolution. Depending on the hardware you have the resolution can change and perhaps even get down-scaled. So im going to stop there because YOU clearly are not TECHNICAL enough to understand the difference in a 1080P image on a 22in monitor than on a 60in monitor. Yes they may look and appear the same but take your self to best buy and compare and perhaps you will see what i am talking about.[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.
Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.
To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.
Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Off topic-you being here longer has nothing to do with what you actually know or what you think you may know. Try contributing to the community and learn on a daily basis rather than speaking in general. On topic-which is better a screen with a bunch of tight pixels squeezed together or a large screen with the same amount but more space to display them and a faster response time? You must live in a third world country where the movies project in a 15 inch format trying to say there is no difference esp when the response time is much longer, screen ratio difference and refresh rate, they all play a role in the type of image quality you get not just the end result resolution. Depending on the hardware you have the resolution can change and perhaps even get down-scaled. So im going to stop there because YOU clearly are not TECHNICAL enough to understand the difference in a 1080P image on a 22in monitor than on a 60in monitor. Yes they may look and appear the same but take your self to best buy and compare and perhaps you will see what i am talking about.
Myzz617
I did read your first comment which is why i went more depth.To the average guys eye and those who dont notice the difference or the "other variables" in which you neglect, yes you are right. Me personally I would rather sit further away and watch a movie then up close and have my eyes start hurting, same applys to gaming. Apparently I use my brain more because i have made more posts, but wait my fingers just type so I dont think at all :-P. Which also leads to that I am an active member and I am constantly learning rather than speaking in general terms. To the tech savy crowd 1080P is not the exact same across the board of all screen sizes and perhaps you should learn how to punctuate properly and develop complete thoughts rather than you jumbled sentences. NATIVE Resolution is fixed but the variables that play a role into how that image is displayed can be a dissapointment with some manufactures devices at different screen sizes.[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
Please use your brain.
Being here or not being here, having more posts or having 1 post bears no relevance to my knowledge or your knowledge on the subject or any other subject you can talk about on here. So why did you even feel the need to bring it up.
If you had read the first comment I made to you I said 1080p is the same if you take out all other varibles.
The pixels bunched together means nothing, its the smae amount of pixels, you just need to view it closer.
22" at 1080p and 60" at 1080p are both the same if both are viewed at the correct viewing diatnce. PC monitors have been doing this for ages, long before the next gen consoles were out.
Resultion is fixed, this does not change just because your screen size is smaller. A 1080p image is still a 1080p image regardless if its on 22" or 60". Im sat here watching 1080p on a 24", it works, its infront of me.
No matter what you think or what you may know you think. 1080p at 22" is the same as 1080p at 60" if both are viewed from the correct distance.shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] I did read your first comment which is why i went more depth.To the average guys eye and those who dont notice the difference or the "other variables" in which you neglect, yes you are right. Me personally I would rather sit further away and watch a movie then up close and have my eyes start hurting, same applys to gaming. Apparently I use my brain more because i have made more posts, but wait my fingers just type so I dont think at all :-P. Which also leads to that I am an active member and I am constantly learning rather than speaking in general terms. To the tech savy crowd 1080P is not the exact same across the board of all screen sizes and perhaps you should learn how to punctuate properly and develop complete thoughts rather than you jumbled sentences. NATIVE Resolution is fixed but the variables that play a role into how that image is displayed can be a dissapointment with some manufactures devices at different screen sizes.
Myzz617
Wow did you even read my first post before trying to quote me? All i said is his TV is 720P is the only downfall of it and i would prefer 1080P but yet hes not using it for gaming. Than i did go ON and say that the res on a smaller TV such as a 32in that is 1080P, its not as good as a 46in displaying 1080P. Im done arguing with you, your right I dont know what forums you are active on or sites nor its not my interest. I DO know that whether its a small difference or a huge one 1080P is not the same across all LCD-TV's buy one and notice it for your self.[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
Right, we are kind of getting there.
Firstly, forget about how many posts you have or I have, it means nothing. You know nothing about me or what other forums Im active on.
Secondly, talking about punctuation, I know its bad, but yours is just as bad, yet another arguement that bears no relevance on the subject we are talking about.
Thirdly, my eyes dont hurt when watching my 24" 1080p monitor, if yours do, maybe you should go and see an optician.
Fourth, I was never talking about anything else other than resultion. Your first post on this thread stated -
"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference."
Which is totally wrong. Smaller TV's alone have nothing to do with resolution. As already said, the resolution of 1080p 1920 x 1080 is the same be it on 22" or 60". The smaller the screen, the closer you have to sit, but the difference will always be the same, it doesnt differ.
I cant say it enough, there is no difference between 1080p on smaller screens. The only thing I was ever talking about was resolution as it is fixed. I wasnt talking about response time or contrast ratios, your the one that brought them into after I dared question your original post.
In conclusion. 1080p on a 22" screen is the same as 1080p on a 60" screen, you just have to sit closer to the smaller screen to be able to notice 1080p. Its a common myth that screens under a certain size are no good for 1080pshawty1984
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Wow did you even read my first post before trying to quote me? All i said is his TV is 720P is the only downfall of it and i would prefer 1080P but yet hes not using it for gaming. Than i did go ON and say that the res on a smaller TV such as a 32in that is 1080P, its not as good as a 46in displaying 1080P. Im done arguing with you, your right I dont know what forums you are active on or sites nor its not my interest. I DO know that whether its a small difference or a huge one 1080P is not the same across all LCD-TV's buy one and notice it for your self.
Myzz617
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Computer_monitors Scroll down to monitors..want more links to prove that your wrong about resolution being the same across all LCD-TV's?[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
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I dont care what you first said, Ive made it quite clear that the statement I was picking up on was the one I quoted. The bit I quoted, you are wrong on. The size of the TV bares no relevance on how good 1080p is, why can you not understand this? A 46" TV will display 1080p the same as a 32" would, ie its the same.
I cant believe how hard this is to understand. We are not talking about any other varibles, we are talking about resolutions. 1080p is 1080p and looks no different be it 22" ot 60" as it is the same amount of pixels. What is it you do not understand about this. The reason that all LCD TV's are not the same is due to other varibles like contrast ratios and other things, but has nothing to do with the resolution. The resolution is fixed, its the same.
You have made this very difficult by bringing in other things. The simple quote that you said was and still is wrong, thats what the issue was over. Now please try to understand that we were talking about resolutions and that two of the same resolutions are no different regardless of screen size.shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Computer_monitors Scroll down to monitors..want more links to prove that your wrong about resolution being the same across all LCD-TV's?
Myzz617
32 inch at 720P is going to work. It is easier to reproduce a picture on a smaller screen. I've tested Blu Ray on a 32' 720P Samsung and it looks phenomenal. Super sharp and clear image, even though it's not running 1080P. The 1080P model of Samsung looked very comparable, a bit sharper but it's nothing your going to complain about. Just make sure if your watching a movie or gaming, that you run through HDMI.
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"] In order for a monitor to have 1080P display it must have the capability. If you read it AT all you would see "Other 1080p-compatible LCDs have lower than 1920×1080 native resolution and cannot display 1080p pixel for pixel, relying on the display's internal scaler to produce an image resized to suit the display's actual resolution" which is what i have been stressing to you but it seems your not technical enough or you don't understand what NATIVE RESOLUTION IS!
shawty1984
Good point HDMI is the best cables are getting cheaper every day.32 inch at 720P is going to work. It is easier to reproduce a picture on a smaller screen. I've tested Blu Ray on a 32' 720P Samsung and it looks phenomenal. Super sharp and clear image, even though it's not running 1080P. The 1080P model of Samsung looked very comparable, a bit sharper but it's nothing your going to complain about. Just make sure if your watching a movie or gaming, that you run through HDMI.
avee69
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]I tried going over the different specs that you fail to understand can make a huge difference. I am good with going back and fourth with you because like my girlfriend in the end you want to be right.[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
Have you even got a clue what you are talking about? A monitor that is not 1920 x 1080 will not and can not be 1080p. It can input a 1080p image and downscale it to the native resolution of the monitor, but we are talking about monitors that are 1080p 1920 x 1080. Like I said, are you just been moronic on purpose? Are you trying to get away from your orgininal point all toghether so you dont look stupid?
Nothing in that link in monitors says anything different to what I have been saying and you are saying its me who doesnt know what they are talking about.Myzz617
Good point HDMI is the best cables are getting cheaper every day.32 inch at 720P is going to work. It is easier to reproduce a picture on a smaller screen. I've tested Blu Ray on a 32' 720P Samsung and it looks phenomenal. Super sharp and clear image, even though it's not running 1080P. The 1080P model of Samsung looked very comparable, a bit sharper but it's nothing your going to complain about. Just make sure if your watching a movie or gaming, that you run through HDMI.
avee69
Or my theory about you been moronic on purpose was right. Either way, you have only made yourself look stupid witht he comment about I never knew what I was talking about.
Also, HDMI cables have been cheap for years.
Like I said get your last word in like a female. Your too queer to understand hardware and specs play a role into all of this so until you can there is no point in going back and forth. Cheap HDMI cables are not as good as the more expensive ones. I'll expect you to make an argument to that as well so have fun doing it alone. Myzz617
[QUOTE="gigatrainer"]OK, so my dad has already bought this LCD TV for my room(Without anyone else having the slightest clue of this coming) and I am extremely happy about this. Specs wise as well it is an extremely nice model and looks quite good as well. I haven't open it up yet but still, was wondering on how great it exactly is. Its a Philips 5000 series 32" TV with resolution of 768p and the ability to downscale 1080p input. It has a 5ms response time with 50000:1 DCR. A link to its page : Philips 5000 series 32. My question is, is this TV a good purchase, is there any particular downside? My use mostly will be from normal PAL TV viewing(We don't have HD transmission here) or DVD viewing. I may sometime connect it to my PC(Since it will be directly above it) to play some games but I do have a 22" monitor for that.Myzz617Only being 720P is the downside that its not 1080P but since your not gaming with this it seems like a good purchase my motto is whats free is for me and your getting this for free!!!
Only matters if you use it as a monitor.
I can't believe that a simple thread about asking whether the TV is good or not can turn into a cat fight between two supposedly hardware experts. Cut it off, there is no point. Anyway I've been using this TV for a while now and it is looking great, I'll be doing some gaming once the HDMI cable gets here.gigatrainerLol your boy is far from a hardware expert and I am all set with responding to his posts because thats the only thing he talks about in threads is this "myth" concept. As for myself i would not say i am an expert but I know just a bit more than him. Like i said in my first post what is free is for me.
Lol your boy is far from a hardware expert and I am all set with responding to his posts because thats the only thing he talks about in threads is this "myth" concept. As for myself i would not say i am an expert but I know just a bit more than him. Like i said in my first post what is free is for me.[QUOTE="Myzz617"][QUOTE="gigatrainer"]I can't believe that a simple thread about asking whether the TV is good or not can turn into a cat fight between two supposedly hardware experts. Cut it off, there is no point. Anyway I've been using this TV for a while now and it is looking great, I'll be doing some gaming once the HDMI cable gets here.shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Lol your boy is far from a hardware expert and I am all set with responding to his posts because thats the only thing he talks about in threads is this "myth" concept. As for myself i would not say i am an expert but I know just a bit more than him. Like i said in my first post what is free is for me. Myzz617
Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely.[QUOTE="Myzz617"][QUOTE="gigatrainer"]I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".shawty1984
I'm with shawty on this one.
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely. Epak_
I'm with shawty on this one.
Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.[QUOTE="Epak_"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.Myzz617
I'm with shawty on this one.
Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.shawty1984
I'm with shawty on this one.
Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.If it was something I really care about i would go above and some trying to prove a point to you. Yes you are correct viewing distance does matter but yet you make it seem that 1080P is Identical across all monitor screen sizes in which I have debated in several aspects it is not..1080P may be the same in the end but the quality of which the image is displayed does vary. We strayed so far off topic which is why I have given up in "debating"..
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.
Myzz617
If it was something I really care about i would go above and some trying to prove a point to you. Yes you are correct viewing distance does matter but yet you make it seem that 1080P is Identical across all monitor screen sizes in which I have debated in several aspects it is not..1080P may be the same in the end but the quality of which the image is displayed does vary. We strayed so far off topic which is why I have given up in "debating"..
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.
shawty1984
If it was something I really care about i would go above and some trying to prove a point to you. Yes you are correct viewing distance does matter but yet you make it seem that 1080P is Identical across all monitor screen sizes in which I have debated in several aspects it is not..1080P may be the same in the end but the quality of which the image is displayed does vary. We strayed so far off topic which is why I have given up in "debating"..
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
If it was something I really care about i would go above and some trying to prove a point to you. Yes you are correct viewing distance does matter but yet you make it seem that 1080P is Identical across all monitor screen sizes in which I have debated in several aspects it is not..1080P may be the same in the end but the quality of which the image is displayed does vary. We strayed so far off topic which is why I have given up in "debating"..
Myzz617
A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.shawty1984
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
[QUOTE="Myzz617"] A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.
gamer082009
This has been dead and gone why revive it? OO you want to get your post count higher I see!!!
You're right, the amount of post doesn't really reflect someones knowledge..it just means you post more or less on this site. I can't believe people actually measure intelligence on the amount of post someone makes! lol..wow[QUOTE="gamer082009"]
[QUOTE="shawty1984"]
Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.
Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.
To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.
Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.Myzz617
This has been dead and gone why revive it? OO you want to get your post count higher I see!!!
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[QUOTE="gamer082009"]You're right, the amount of post doesn't really reflect someones knowledge..it just means you post more or less on this site. I can't believe people actually measure intelligence on the amount of post someone makes! lol..wow
shawty1984
This has been dead and gone why revive it? OO you want to get your post count higher I see!!!
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This has been dead and gone why revive it? OO you want to get your post count higher I see!!!
Myzz617
of course there is[QUOTE="Myzz617"]
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That post is two days old, was there any need for that.shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"] of course there is
Myzz617
Sorry I couldn't resist and had to revive this thread but "Myzz617" you're a douche and probably the worse debater on gs.
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