Was this 32 inch TV a good purchase?

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#1 gigatrainer
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OK, so my dad has already bought this LCD TV for my room(Without anyone else having the slightest clue of this coming) and I am extremely happy about this. Specs wise as well it is an extremely nice model and looks quite good as well. I haven't open it up yet but still, was wondering on how great it exactly is. Its a Philips 5000 series 32" TV with resolution of 768p and the ability to downscale 1080p input. It has a 5ms response time with 50000:1 DCR. A link to its page : Philips 5000 series 32. My question is, is this TV a good purchase, is there any particular downside? My use mostly will be from normal PAL TV viewing(We don't have HD transmission here) or DVD viewing. I may sometime connect it to my PC(Since it will be directly above it) to play some games but I do have a 22" monitor for that.
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#2 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="gigatrainer"]OK, so my dad has already bought this LCD TV for my room(Without anyone else having the slightest clue of this coming) and I am extremely happy about this. Specs wise as well it is an extremely nice model and looks quite good as well. I haven't open it up yet but still, was wondering on how great it exactly is. Its a Philips 5000 series 32" TV with resolution of 768p and the ability to downscale 1080p input. It has a 5ms response time with 50000:1 DCR. A link to its page : Philips 5000 series 32. My question is, is this TV a good purchase, is there any particular downside? My use mostly will be from normal PAL TV viewing(We don't have HD transmission here) or DVD viewing. I may sometime connect it to my PC(Since it will be directly above it) to play some games but I do have a 22" monitor for that.

Only being 720P is the downside that its not 1080P but since your not gaming with this it seems like a good purchase my motto is whats free is for me and your getting this for free!!!
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#3 gigatrainer
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I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".
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I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".gigatrainer
Hey Slig0 just purchased almost the exact same TV! ;)
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#5 Myzz617
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I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".gigatrainer
Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely.
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I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".gigatrainer


1080p is the same be it 22" or 60". 1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and will always be 1920 x 1080, this does not change just because of screen size. Its viewing distance in relation to the screen size that matters, not just screen size alone.

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#7 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="gigatrainer"]I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".Myzz617
Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely.



Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

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[QUOTE="Myzz617"][QUOTE="gigatrainer"]I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".shawty1984

Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely.



Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.

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#9 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely. Myzz617



Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.



Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.

Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.

To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.

Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.

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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

shawty1984

A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.



Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.

Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.

To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.

Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.

Off topic-you being here longer has nothing to do with what you actually know or what you think you may know. Try contributing to the community and learn on a daily basis rather than speaking in general. On topic-which is better a screen with a bunch of tight pixels squeezed together or a large screen with the same amount but more space to display them and a faster response time? You must live in a third world country where the movies project in a 15 inch format trying to say there is no difference esp when the response time is much longer, screen ratio difference and refresh rate, they all play a role in the type of image quality you get not just the end result resolution. Depending on the hardware you have the resolution can change and perhaps even get down-scaled. So im going to stop there because YOU clearly are not TECHNICAL enough to understand the difference in a 1080P image on a 22in monitor than on a 60in monitor. Yes they may look and appear the same but take your self to best buy and compare and perhaps you will see what i am talking about.

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#11 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.

Myzz617



Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.

Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.

To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.

Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.

Off topic-you being here longer has nothing to do with what you actually know or what you think you may know. Try contributing to the community and learn on a daily basis rather than speaking in general. On topic-which is better a screen with a bunch of tight pixels squeezed together or a large screen with the same amount but more space to display them and a faster response time? You must live in a third world country where the movies project in a 15 inch format trying to say there is no difference esp when the response time is much longer, screen ratio difference and refresh rate, they all play a role in the type of image quality you get not just the end result resolution. Depending on the hardware you have the resolution can change and perhaps even get down-scaled. So im going to stop there because YOU clearly are not TECHNICAL enough to understand the difference in a 1080P image on a 22in monitor than on a 60in monitor. Yes they may look and appear the same but take your self to best buy and compare and perhaps you will see what i am talking about.



Please use your brain.

Being here or not being here, having more posts or having 1 post bears no relevance to my knowledge or your knowledge on the subject or any other subject you can talk about on here. So why did you even feel the need to bring it up.

If you had read the first comment I made to you I said 1080p is the same if you take out all other varibles.

The pixels bunched together means nothing, its the smae amount of pixels, you just need to view it closer.

22" at 1080p and 60" at 1080p are both the same if both are viewed at the correct viewing diatnce. PC monitors have been doing this for ages, long before the next gen consoles were out.

Resultion is fixed, this does not change just because your screen size is smaller. A 1080p image is still a 1080p image regardless if its on 22" or 60". Im sat here watching 1080p on a 24", it works, its infront of me.

No matter what you think or what you may know you think. 1080p at 22" is the same as 1080p at 60" if both are viewed from the correct distance.

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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.

Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.

To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.

Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.

shawty1984

Off topic-you being here longer has nothing to do with what you actually know or what you think you may know. Try contributing to the community and learn on a daily basis rather than speaking in general. On topic-which is better a screen with a bunch of tight pixels squeezed together or a large screen with the same amount but more space to display them and a faster response time? You must live in a third world country where the movies project in a 15 inch format trying to say there is no difference esp when the response time is much longer, screen ratio difference and refresh rate, they all play a role in the type of image quality you get not just the end result resolution. Depending on the hardware you have the resolution can change and perhaps even get down-scaled. So im going to stop there because YOU clearly are not TECHNICAL enough to understand the difference in a 1080P image on a 22in monitor than on a 60in monitor. Yes they may look and appear the same but take your self to best buy and compare and perhaps you will see what i am talking about.



Please use your brain.

Being here or not being here, having more posts or having 1 post bears no relevance to my knowledge or your knowledge on the subject or any other subject you can talk about on here. So why did you even feel the need to bring it up.

If you had read the first comment I made to you I said 1080p is the same if you take out all other varibles.

The pixels bunched together means nothing, its the smae amount of pixels, you just need to view it closer.

22" at 1080p and 60" at 1080p are both the same if both are viewed at the correct viewing diatnce. PC monitors have been doing this for ages, long before the next gen consoles were out.

Resultion is fixed, this does not change just because your screen size is smaller. A 1080p image is still a 1080p image regardless if its on 22" or 60". Im sat here watching 1080p on a 24", it works, its infront of me.

No matter what you think or what you may know you think. 1080p at 22" is the same as 1080p at 60" if both are viewed from the correct distance.

I did read your first comment which is why i went more depth.To the average guys eye and those who dont notice the difference or the "other variables" in which you neglect, yes you are right. Me personally I would rather sit further away and watch a movie then up close and have my eyes start hurting, same applys to gaming. Apparently I use my brain more because i have made more posts, but wait my fingers just type so I dont think at all :-P. Which also leads to that I am an active member and I am constantly learning rather than speaking in general terms. To the tech savy crowd 1080P is not the exact same across the board of all screen sizes and perhaps you should learn how to punctuate properly and develop complete thoughts rather than you jumbled sentences. NATIVE Resolution is fixed but the variables that play a role into how that image is displayed can be a dissapointment with some manufactures devices at different screen sizes.

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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Off topic-you being here longer has nothing to do with what you actually know or what you think you may know. Try contributing to the community and learn on a daily basis rather than speaking in general. On topic-which is better a screen with a bunch of tight pixels squeezed together or a large screen with the same amount but more space to display them and a faster response time? You must live in a third world country where the movies project in a 15 inch format trying to say there is no difference esp when the response time is much longer, screen ratio difference and refresh rate, they all play a role in the type of image quality you get not just the end result resolution. Depending on the hardware you have the resolution can change and perhaps even get down-scaled. So im going to stop there because YOU clearly are not TECHNICAL enough to understand the difference in a 1080P image on a 22in monitor than on a 60in monitor. Yes they may look and appear the same but take your self to best buy and compare and perhaps you will see what i am talking about.

Myzz617



Please use your brain.

Being here or not being here, having more posts or having 1 post bears no relevance to my knowledge or your knowledge on the subject or any other subject you can talk about on here. So why did you even feel the need to bring it up.

If you had read the first comment I made to you I said 1080p is the same if you take out all other varibles.

The pixels bunched together means nothing, its the smae amount of pixels, you just need to view it closer.

22" at 1080p and 60" at 1080p are both the same if both are viewed at the correct viewing diatnce. PC monitors have been doing this for ages, long before the next gen consoles were out.

Resultion is fixed, this does not change just because your screen size is smaller. A 1080p image is still a 1080p image regardless if its on 22" or 60". Im sat here watching 1080p on a 24", it works, its infront of me.

No matter what you think or what you may know you think. 1080p at 22" is the same as 1080p at 60" if both are viewed from the correct distance.

I did read your first comment which is why i went more depth.To the average guys eye and those who dont notice the difference or the "other variables" in which you neglect, yes you are right. Me personally I would rather sit further away and watch a movie then up close and have my eyes start hurting, same applys to gaming. Apparently I use my brain more because i have made more posts, but wait my fingers just type so I dont think at all :-P. Which also leads to that I am an active member and I am constantly learning rather than speaking in general terms. To the tech savy crowd 1080P is not the exact same across the board of all screen sizes and perhaps you should learn how to punctuate properly and develop complete thoughts rather than you jumbled sentences. NATIVE Resolution is fixed but the variables that play a role into how that image is displayed can be a dissapointment with some manufactures devices at different screen sizes.



Right, we are kind of getting there.

Firstly, forget about how many posts you have or I have, it means nothing. You know nothing about me or what other forums Im active on.

Secondly, talking about punctuation, I know its bad, but yours is just as bad, yet another arguement that bears no relevance on the subject we are talking about.

Thirdly, my eyes dont hurt when watching my 24" 1080p monitor, if yours do, maybe you should go and see an optician.

Fourth, I was never talking about anything else other than resultion. Your first post on this thread stated -

"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference."

Which is totally wrong. Smaller TV's alone have nothing to do with resolution. As already said, the resolution of 1080p 1920 x 1080 is the same be it on 22" or 60". The smaller the screen, the closer you have to sit, but the difference will always be the same, it doesnt differ.

I cant say it enough, there is no difference between 1080p on smaller screens. The only thing I was ever talking about was resolution as it is fixed. I wasnt talking about response time or contrast ratios, your the one that brought them into after I dared question your original post.

In conclusion. 1080p on a 22" screen is the same as 1080p on a 60" screen, you just have to sit closer to the smaller screen to be able to notice 1080p. Its a common myth that screens under a certain size are no good for 1080p

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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Please use your brain.

Being here or not being here, having more posts or having 1 post bears no relevance to my knowledge or your knowledge on the subject or any other subject you can talk about on here. So why did you even feel the need to bring it up.

If you had read the first comment I made to you I said 1080p is the same if you take out all other varibles.

The pixels bunched together means nothing, its the smae amount of pixels, you just need to view it closer.

22" at 1080p and 60" at 1080p are both the same if both are viewed at the correct viewing diatnce. PC monitors have been doing this for ages, long before the next gen consoles were out.

Resultion is fixed, this does not change just because your screen size is smaller. A 1080p image is still a 1080p image regardless if its on 22" or 60". Im sat here watching 1080p on a 24", it works, its infront of me.

No matter what you think or what you may know you think. 1080p at 22" is the same as 1080p at 60" if both are viewed from the correct distance.

shawty1984

I did read your first comment which is why i went more depth.To the average guys eye and those who dont notice the difference or the "other variables" in which you neglect, yes you are right. Me personally I would rather sit further away and watch a movie then up close and have my eyes start hurting, same applys to gaming. Apparently I use my brain more because i have made more posts, but wait my fingers just type so I dont think at all :-P. Which also leads to that I am an active member and I am constantly learning rather than speaking in general terms. To the tech savy crowd 1080P is not the exact same across the board of all screen sizes and perhaps you should learn how to punctuate properly and develop complete thoughts rather than you jumbled sentences. NATIVE Resolution is fixed but the variables that play a role into how that image is displayed can be a dissapointment with some manufactures devices at different screen sizes.



Right, we are kind of getting there.

Firstly, forget about how many posts you have or I have, it means nothing. You know nothing about me or what other forums Im active on.

Secondly, talking about punctuation, I know its bad, but yours is just as bad, yet another arguement that bears no relevance on the subject we are talking about.

Thirdly, my eyes dont hurt when watching my 24" 1080p monitor, if yours do, maybe you should go and see an optician.

Fourth, I was never talking about anything else other than resultion. Your first post on this thread stated -

"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference."

Which is totally wrong. Smaller TV's alone have nothing to do with resolution. As already said, the resolution of 1080p 1920 x 1080 is the same be it on 22" or 60". The smaller the screen, the closer you have to sit, but the difference will always be the same, it doesnt differ.

I cant say it enough, there is no difference between 1080p on smaller screens. The only thing I was ever talking about was resolution as it is fixed. I wasnt talking about response time or contrast ratios, your the one that brought them into after I dared question your original post.

In conclusion. 1080p on a 22" screen is the same as 1080p on a 60" screen, you just have to sit closer to the smaller screen to be able to notice 1080p. Its a common myth that screens under a certain size are no good for 1080p

Wow did you even read my first post before trying to quote me? All i said is his TV is 720P is the only downfall of it and i would prefer 1080P but yet hes not using it for gaming. Than i did go ON and say that the res on a smaller TV such as a 32in that is 1080P, its not as good as a 46in displaying 1080P. Im done arguing with you, your right I dont know what forums you are active on or sites nor its not my interest. I DO know that whether its a small difference or a huge one 1080P is not the same across all LCD-TV's buy one and notice it for your self.

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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] I did read your first comment which is why i went more depth.To the average guys eye and those who dont notice the difference or the "other variables" in which you neglect, yes you are right. Me personally I would rather sit further away and watch a movie then up close and have my eyes start hurting, same applys to gaming. Apparently I use my brain more because i have made more posts, but wait my fingers just type so I dont think at all :-P. Which also leads to that I am an active member and I am constantly learning rather than speaking in general terms. To the tech savy crowd 1080P is not the exact same across the board of all screen sizes and perhaps you should learn how to punctuate properly and develop complete thoughts rather than you jumbled sentences. NATIVE Resolution is fixed but the variables that play a role into how that image is displayed can be a dissapointment with some manufactures devices at different screen sizes.

Myzz617



Right, we are kind of getting there.

Firstly, forget about how many posts you have or I have, it means nothing. You know nothing about me or what other forums Im active on.

Secondly, talking about punctuation, I know its bad, but yours is just as bad, yet another arguement that bears no relevance on the subject we are talking about.

Thirdly, my eyes dont hurt when watching my 24" 1080p monitor, if yours do, maybe you should go and see an optician.

Fourth, I was never talking about anything else other than resultion. Your first post on this thread stated -

"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference."

Which is totally wrong. Smaller TV's alone have nothing to do with resolution. As already said, the resolution of 1080p 1920 x 1080 is the same be it on 22" or 60". The smaller the screen, the closer you have to sit, but the difference will always be the same, it doesnt differ.

I cant say it enough, there is no difference between 1080p on smaller screens. The only thing I was ever talking about was resolution as it is fixed. I wasnt talking about response time or contrast ratios, your the one that brought them into after I dared question your original post.

In conclusion. 1080p on a 22" screen is the same as 1080p on a 60" screen, you just have to sit closer to the smaller screen to be able to notice 1080p. Its a common myth that screens under a certain size are no good for 1080p

Wow did you even read my first post before trying to quote me? All i said is his TV is 720P is the only downfall of it and i would prefer 1080P but yet hes not using it for gaming. Than i did go ON and say that the res on a smaller TV such as a 32in that is 1080P, its not as good as a 46in displaying 1080P. Im done arguing with you, your right I dont know what forums you are active on or sites nor its not my interest. I DO know that whether its a small difference or a huge one 1080P is not the same across all LCD-TV's buy one and notice it for your self.



I dont care what you first said, Ive made it quite clear that the statement I was picking up on was the one I quoted. The bit I quoted, you are wrong on. The size of the TV bares no relevance on how good 1080p is, why can you not understand this? A 46" TV will display 1080p the same as a 32" would, ie its the same.

I cant believe how hard this is to understand. We are not talking about any other varibles, we are talking about resolutions. 1080p is 1080p and looks no different be it 22" ot 60" as it is the same amount of pixels. What is it you do not understand about this. The reason that all LCD TV's are not the same is due to other varibles like contrast ratios and other things, but has nothing to do with the resolution. The resolution is fixed, its the same.

You have made this very difficult by bringing in other things. The simple quote that you said was and still is wrong, thats what the issue was over. Now please try to understand that we were talking about resolutions and that two of the same resolutions are no different regardless of screen size.

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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Right, we are kind of getting there.

Firstly, forget about how many posts you have or I have, it means nothing. You know nothing about me or what other forums Im active on.

Secondly, talking about punctuation, I know its bad, but yours is just as bad, yet another arguement that bears no relevance on the subject we are talking about.

Thirdly, my eyes dont hurt when watching my 24" 1080p monitor, if yours do, maybe you should go and see an optician.

Fourth, I was never talking about anything else other than resultion. Your first post on this thread stated -

"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference."

Which is totally wrong. Smaller TV's alone have nothing to do with resolution. As already said, the resolution of 1080p 1920 x 1080 is the same be it on 22" or 60". The smaller the screen, the closer you have to sit, but the difference will always be the same, it doesnt differ.

I cant say it enough, there is no difference between 1080p on smaller screens. The only thing I was ever talking about was resolution as it is fixed. I wasnt talking about response time or contrast ratios, your the one that brought them into after I dared question your original post.

In conclusion. 1080p on a 22" screen is the same as 1080p on a 60" screen, you just have to sit closer to the smaller screen to be able to notice 1080p. Its a common myth that screens under a certain size are no good for 1080p

shawty1984

Wow did you even read my first post before trying to quote me? All i said is his TV is 720P is the only downfall of it and i would prefer 1080P but yet hes not using it for gaming. Than i did go ON and say that the res on a smaller TV such as a 32in that is 1080P, its not as good as a 46in displaying 1080P. Im done arguing with you, your right I dont know what forums you are active on or sites nor its not my interest. I DO know that whether its a small difference or a huge one 1080P is not the same across all LCD-TV's buy one and notice it for your self.



I dont care what you first said, Ive made it quite clear that the statement I was picking up on was the one I quoted. The bit I quoted, you are wrong on. The size of the TV bares no relevance on how good 1080p is, why can you not understand this? A 46" TV will display 1080p the same as a 32" would, ie its the same.

I cant believe how hard this is to understand. We are not talking about any other varibles, we are talking about resolutions. 1080p is 1080p and looks no different be it 22" ot 60" as it is the same amount of pixels. What is it you do not understand about this. The reason that all LCD TV's are not the same is due to other varibles like contrast ratios and other things, but has nothing to do with the resolution. The resolution is fixed, its the same.

You have made this very difficult by bringing in other things. The simple quote that you said was and still is wrong, thats what the issue was over. Now please try to understand that we were talking about resolutions and that two of the same resolutions are no different regardless of screen size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Computer_monitors Scroll down to monitors..want more links to prove that your wrong about resolution being the same across all LCD-TV's?

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#17 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Wow did you even read my first post before trying to quote me? All i said is his TV is 720P is the only downfall of it and i would prefer 1080P but yet hes not using it for gaming. Than i did go ON and say that the res on a smaller TV such as a 32in that is 1080P, its not as good as a 46in displaying 1080P. Im done arguing with you, your right I dont know what forums you are active on or sites nor its not my interest. I DO know that whether its a small difference or a huge one 1080P is not the same across all LCD-TV's buy one and notice it for your self.

Myzz617



I dont care what you first said, Ive made it quite clear that the statement I was picking up on was the one I quoted. The bit I quoted, you are wrong on. The size of the TV bares no relevance on how good 1080p is, why can you not understand this? A 46" TV will display 1080p the same as a 32" would, ie its the same.

I cant believe how hard this is to understand. We are not talking about any other varibles, we are talking about resolutions. 1080p is 1080p and looks no different be it 22" ot 60" as it is the same amount of pixels. What is it you do not understand about this. The reason that all LCD TV's are not the same is due to other varibles like contrast ratios and other things, but has nothing to do with the resolution. The resolution is fixed, its the same.

You have made this very difficult by bringing in other things. The simple quote that you said was and still is wrong, thats what the issue was over. Now please try to understand that we were talking about resolutions and that two of the same resolutions are no different regardless of screen size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Computer_monitors Scroll down to monitors..want more links to prove that your wrong about resolution being the same across all LCD-TV's?



Are you just been moronic on purpose?

I wasnt talking about all monitors having 1920 x 1080 displays. Im talking about all monitors that do have that resolution are the same. There isnt 2 different 1080p's that look different, 1080p is 1080p which looks the same regardless of screen size. Every LCD that has 1920 x 1080be it 22" or 60" will look the same as 1080p doesnt change the smaller the screen you have.

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#18 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

I dont care what you first said, Ive made it quite clear that the statement I was picking up on was the one I quoted. The bit I quoted, you are wrong on. The size of the TV bares no relevance on how good 1080p is, why can you not understand this? A 46" TV will display 1080p the same as a 32" would, ie its the same.

I cant believe how hard this is to understand. We are not talking about any other varibles, we are talking about resolutions. 1080p is 1080p and looks no different be it 22" ot 60" as it is the same amount of pixels. What is it you do not understand about this. The reason that all LCD TV's are not the same is due to other varibles like contrast ratios and other things, but has nothing to do with the resolution. The resolution is fixed, its the same.

You have made this very difficult by bringing in other things. The simple quote that you said was and still is wrong, thats what the issue was over. Now please try to understand that we were talking about resolutions and that two of the same resolutions are no different regardless of screen size.

shawty1984

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Computer_monitors Scroll down to monitors..want more links to prove that your wrong about resolution being the same across all LCD-TV's?



Are you just been moronic on purpose?

I wasnt talking about all monitors having 1920 x 1080 displays. Im talking about all monitors that do have that resolution are the same. There isnt 2 different 1080p's that look different, 1080p is 1080p which looks the same regardless of screen size. Every LCD that has 1920 x 1080be it 22" or 60" will look the same as 1080p doesnt change the smaller the screen you have.

In order for a monitor to have 1080P display it must have the capability. If you read it AT all you would see "Other 1080p-compatible LCDs have lower than 1920×1080 native resolution and cannot display 1080p pixel for pixel, relying on the display's internal scaler to produce an image resized to suit the display's actual resolution" which is what i have been stressing to you but it seems your not technical enough or you don't understand what NATIVE RESOLUTION IS!

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#19 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080p#Computer_monitors Scroll down to monitors..want more links to prove that your wrong about resolution being the same across all LCD-TV's?

Myzz617



Are you just been moronic on purpose?

I wasnt talking about all monitors having 1920 x 1080 displays. Im talking about all monitors that do have that resolution are the same. There isnt 2 different 1080p's that look different, 1080p is 1080p which looks the same regardless of screen size. Every LCD that has 1920 x 1080be it 22" or 60" will look the same as 1080p doesnt change the smaller the screen you have.

In order for a monitor to have 1080P display it must have the capability. If you read it AT all you would see "Other 1080p-compatible LCDs have lower than 1920×1080 native resolution and cannot display 1080p pixel for pixel, relying on the display's internal scaler to produce an image resized to suit the display's actual resolution" which is what i have been stressing to you but it seems your not technical enough or you don't understand what NATIVE RESOLUTION IS!



Have you even got a clue what you are talking about? A monitor that is not 1920 x 1080 will not and can not be 1080p. It can input a 1080p image and downscale it to the native resolution of the monitor, but we are talking about monitors that are 1080p 1920 x 1080. Like I said, are you just been moronic on purpose? Are you trying to get away from your orgininal point all toghether so you dont look stupid?

Nothing in that link in monitors says anything different to what I have been saying and you are saying its me who doesnt know what they are talking about.

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Thanks for ruining a perfectly interesting read with this stupid argument
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32 inch at 720P is going to work. It is easier to reproduce a picture on a smaller screen. I've tested Blu Ray on a 32' 720P Samsung and it looks phenomenal. Super sharp and clear image, even though it's not running 1080P. The 1080P model of Samsung looked very comparable, a bit sharper but it's nothing your going to complain about. Just make sure if your watching a movie or gaming, that you run through HDMI.

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#22 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"] In order for a monitor to have 1080P display it must have the capability. If you read it AT all you would see "Other 1080p-compatible LCDs have lower than 1920×1080 native resolution and cannot display 1080p pixel for pixel, relying on the display's internal scaler to produce an image resized to suit the display's actual resolution" which is what i have been stressing to you but it seems your not technical enough or you don't understand what NATIVE RESOLUTION IS!

shawty1984



Have you even got a clue what you are talking about? A monitor that is not 1920 x 1080 will not and can not be 1080p. It can input a 1080p image and downscale it to the native resolution of the monitor, but we are talking about monitors that are 1080p 1920 x 1080. Like I said, are you just been moronic on purpose? Are you trying to get away from your orgininal point all toghether so you dont look stupid?

Nothing in that link in monitors says anything different to what I have been saying and you are saying its me who doesnt know what they are talking about.

I tried going over the different specs that you fail to understand can make a huge difference. I am good with going back and fourth with you because like my girlfriend in the end you want to be right.

32 inch at 720P is going to work. It is easier to reproduce a picture on a smaller screen. I've tested Blu Ray on a 32' 720P Samsung and it looks phenomenal. Super sharp and clear image, even though it's not running 1080P. The 1080P model of Samsung looked very comparable, a bit sharper but it's nothing your going to complain about. Just make sure if your watching a movie or gaming, that you run through HDMI.

avee69
Good point HDMI is the best cables are getting cheaper every day.
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The argument is just starting to get interesting...... He, He, He:-)
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#24 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

Have you even got a clue what you are talking about? A monitor that is not 1920 x 1080 will not and can not be 1080p. It can input a 1080p image and downscale it to the native resolution of the monitor, but we are talking about monitors that are 1080p 1920 x 1080. Like I said, are you just been moronic on purpose? Are you trying to get away from your orgininal point all toghether so you dont look stupid?

Nothing in that link in monitors says anything different to what I have been saying and you are saying its me who doesnt know what they are talking about.

Myzz617

I tried going over the different specs that you fail to understand can make a huge difference. I am good with going back and fourth with you because like my girlfriend in the end you want to be right.

32 inch at 720P is going to work. It is easier to reproduce a picture on a smaller screen. I've tested Blu Ray on a 32' 720P Samsung and it looks phenomenal. Super sharp and clear image, even though it's not running 1080P. The 1080P model of Samsung looked very comparable, a bit sharper but it's nothing your going to complain about. Just make sure if your watching a movie or gaming, that you run through HDMI.

avee69

Good point HDMI is the best cables are getting cheaper every day.



As Ive already stated, forget about different specs. We were never talking about different specs, you just brought that up when you started losing the arguement. I was only ever talking about resolution when you made a stupid comment about 1080p on smaller screens. When you relaised that infact you where wrong and a 1080p image on a 22" screen is the same on a 60" screen, you started to talk about different specs.

Or my theory about you been moronic on purpose was right. Either way, you have only made yourself look stupid witht he comment about I never knew what I was talking about.

Also, HDMI cables have been cheap for years.

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#26 shawty1984
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Like I said get your last word in like a female. Your too queer to understand hardware and specs play a role into all of this so until you can there is no point in going back and forth. Cheap HDMI cables are not as good as the more expensive ones. I'll expect you to make an argument to that as well so have fun doing it alone. Myzz617


Your silly little arguments and name calling are getting tiring now, please be civil.

Please tell me where I have said I dont understand hardware and specs. My first response to you was about your wrong assumption of 1080p not being good on smaller screens. That was the only issue I had. Taking away all other varibles, size itself has nothing to do with wether 1080p is any good. Its size of TV and viewing distance that matters. So your quote was wrong, plain and simple. Your just trying to muddy the water by bringing other arguments into the equation. Why cant you just be man enough to admit you were wrong. You can try to bring other equations into this all you want, does not mean that 1080p on smaller screens are no good.

As for your HDMI cable comment, it is really laughable that at the begining of this thread you started by saying my level and post count were low so obviously I didnt know what i was talking about. Maybe you need to look in the mirror and you then might find the culpritof the person who doesnt know what they are talking about. The only difference between cheap and expensive HDMI cables is that the more expensive ones will most likely last longer if you have to keep swapping them around.

Maybe next time before you start insulting people, you might learn about the things you are arguing about.

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I can't believe that a simple thread about asking whether the TV is good or not can turn into a cat fight between two supposedly hardware experts. Cut it off, there is no point. Anyway I've been using this TV for a while now and it is looking great, I'll be doing some gaming once the HDMI cable gets here.
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#28 Epak_
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I have the same TV. I'm pretty happy with it. Normal broadcasts look great and the contrast is quite nice too. It's only HD-ready but my budget was pretty tight.

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#29 Epak_
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[QUOTE="gigatrainer"]OK, so my dad has already bought this LCD TV for my room(Without anyone else having the slightest clue of this coming) and I am extremely happy about this. Specs wise as well it is an extremely nice model and looks quite good as well. I haven't open it up yet but still, was wondering on how great it exactly is. Its a Philips 5000 series 32" TV with resolution of 768p and the ability to downscale 1080p input. It has a 5ms response time with 50000:1 DCR. A link to its page : Philips 5000 series 32. My question is, is this TV a good purchase, is there any particular downside? My use mostly will be from normal PAL TV viewing(We don't have HD transmission here) or DVD viewing. I may sometime connect it to my PC(Since it will be directly above it) to play some games but I do have a 22" monitor for that.Myzz617
Only being 720P is the downside that its not 1080P but since your not gaming with this it seems like a good purchase my motto is whats free is for me and your getting this for free!!!

Only matters if you use it as a monitor.

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#30 Myzz617
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I can't believe that a simple thread about asking whether the TV is good or not can turn into a cat fight between two supposedly hardware experts. Cut it off, there is no point. Anyway I've been using this TV for a while now and it is looking great, I'll be doing some gaming once the HDMI cable gets here.gigatrainer
Lol your boy is far from a hardware expert and I am all set with responding to his posts because thats the only thing he talks about in threads is this "myth" concept. As for myself i would not say i am an expert but I know just a bit more than him. Like i said in my first post what is free is for me.
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#32 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"][QUOTE="gigatrainer"]I can't believe that a simple thread about asking whether the TV is good or not can turn into a cat fight between two supposedly hardware experts. Cut it off, there is no point. Anyway I've been using this TV for a while now and it is looking great, I'll be doing some gaming once the HDMI cable gets here.shawty1984

Lol your boy is far from a hardware expert and I am all set with responding to his posts because thats the only thing he talks about in threads is this "myth" concept. As for myself i would not say i am an expert but I know just a bit more than him. Like i said in my first post what is free is for me.



You really are moronic. You clearly dont know what your talking about, yet are giving advice which in my eyes is just totally wrong.

So hard to know that 1080P is better than 720P, sticking to the TC's topic the purchase is not a bad one at all. Only downfall is that the monitor is NOT 1080P and will have to downscale 1080P games and movies. I never implied in giving him any advice, I was only debating what you brought up which is your myth concept which has been done to death esp by you.

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#33 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Lol your boy is far from a hardware expert and I am all set with responding to his posts because thats the only thing he talks about in threads is this "myth" concept. As for myself i would not say i am an expert but I know just a bit more than him. Like i said in my first post what is free is for me. Myzz617



You really are moronic. You clearly dont know what your talking about, yet are giving advice which in my eyes is just totally wrong.

So hard to know that 1080P is better than 720P, sticking to the TC's topic the purchase is not a bad one at all. Only downfall is that the monitor is NOT 1080P and will have to downscale 1080P games and movies. I never implied in giving him any advice, I was only debating what you brought up which is your myth concept which has been done to death esp by you.



If its been done to death, then surely you should have learnt by now instead of repeating the same things that are simply not true.

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#34 Epak_
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"][QUOTE="gigatrainer"]I was reading about that and it seems that 720p vs 1080p doesn't really make all that much of a difference on a screen size of 32".shawty1984

Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely.



Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

I'm with shawty on this one.

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#35 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference. I have a 46in Sharp aquos and the games that display in 1080P are lovely. Epak_



Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

I'm with shawty on this one.

Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.

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#36 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Epak_"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

Myzz617

I'm with shawty on this one.

Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.



I never said it does, your debating skills are weak. Please find a quote of where I said viewing distance alone is the only difference in image quality. We are and always were talking about resolutions until you couldnt admit you were wrong and tried to change the argument.

Im not name calling you at all, I really do think about you in what I said if this is what you believe. And to think that you said I didnt know what I was talking about because of my level and post count is laughable with some of the stuff you come out with.

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#37 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="Epak_"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

shawty1984

I'm with shawty on this one.

Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.



I never said it does, your debating skills are weak. Please find a quote of where I said viewing distance alone is the only difference in image quality. We are and always were talking about resolutions until you couldnt admit you were wrong and tried to change the argument.

Im not name calling you at all, I really do think about you in what I said if this is what you believe. And to think that you said I didnt know what I was talking about because of my level and post count is laughable with some of the stuff you come out with.

If it was something I really care about i would go above and some trying to prove a point to you. Yes you are correct viewing distance does matter but yet you make it seem that 1080P is Identical across all monitor screen sizes in which I have debated in several aspects it is not..1080P may be the same in the end but the quality of which the image is displayed does vary. We strayed so far off topic which is why I have given up in "debating"..

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#38 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.

Myzz617



I never said it does, your debating skills are weak. Please find a quote of where I said viewing distance alone is the only difference in image quality. We are and always were talking about resolutions until you couldnt admit you were wrong and tried to change the argument.

Im not name calling you at all, I really do think about you in what I said if this is what you believe. And to think that you said I didnt know what I was talking about because of my level and post count is laughable with some of the stuff you come out with.

If it was something I really care about i would go above and some trying to prove a point to you. Yes you are correct viewing distance does matter but yet you make it seem that 1080P is Identical across all monitor screen sizes in which I have debated in several aspects it is not..1080P may be the same in the end but the quality of which the image is displayed does vary. We strayed so far off topic which is why I have given up in "debating"..



Right, we are getting there a bit.

Do you agree that your statement when quoting someone about 720p and 1080p was wrong? Here it is -

"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference"

Forget about other varibles, we were not talking about anything else other than resolution. How you come to the conclusion 1080p is better through larger screens when you admit 1080 is the same in the end is beyond me and it shows how jumbled up your argument is basically because you dont want to admit your wrong.

1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and will always be 1920 x 1080. So how you come to the conclusion that resolution on smaller TV's wont be as good as you wont see much difference is pretty stupid when resolutions are fixed and will look the same regardless, you just adjust your viewing distance.

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#39 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] Ride his wagon if you want but VIEWING distance alone does not make the ONLY difference in image quality. Plus im sure shawty knows how to talk to people now after ranting and name calling.

shawty1984



I never said it does, your debating skills are weak. Please find a quote of where I said viewing distance alone is the only difference in image quality. We are and always were talking about resolutions until you couldnt admit you were wrong and tried to change the argument.

Im not name calling you at all, I really do think about you in what I said if this is what you believe. And to think that you said I didnt know what I was talking about because of my level and post count is laughable with some of the stuff you come out with.

If it was something I really care about i would go above and some trying to prove a point to you. Yes you are correct viewing distance does matter but yet you make it seem that 1080P is Identical across all monitor screen sizes in which I have debated in several aspects it is not..1080P may be the same in the end but the quality of which the image is displayed does vary. We strayed so far off topic which is why I have given up in "debating"..



Right, we are getting there a bit.

Do you agree that your statement when quoting someone about 720p and 1080p was wrong? Here it is -

"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference"

Forget about other varibles, we were not talking about anything else other than resolution. How you come to the conclusion 1080p is better through larger screens when you admit 1080 is the same in the end is beyond me and it shows how jumbled up your argument is basically because you dont want to admit your wrong.

1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and will always be 1920 x 1080. So how you come to the conclusion that resolution on smaller TV's wont be as good as you wont see much difference is pretty stupid when resolutions are fixed and will look the same regardless, you just adjust your viewing distance.



Did you not read the quote before i said that? He said 720p vs 1080P on tv's smaller than 32in there is not much difference. I meant to agree with what he said basically and go on to say 1080P on my 46in is lovely coming from a 32in samsung with 1080i/p. Resolutions are "fixed" but whether a T.V's native res is 1080P is another story. Some Tv's say 1080P capable some clearly say that 1080P is their native res. Just because the resolution is FIXED does not mean that is what your going to get, When I play COD4 or Socom comfrontation it always goes back to 720P unless I change it in my display settings by unchecking 720P than the native resolution kicks in and it plays at 1080P. All the other "variables" play a role in the image quality you get from whatever specific resolution you have is what i am saying. Hope that clears it for YOU!!!

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#40 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

If it was something I really care about i would go above and some trying to prove a point to you. Yes you are correct viewing distance does matter but yet you make it seem that 1080P is Identical across all monitor screen sizes in which I have debated in several aspects it is not..1080P may be the same in the end but the quality of which the image is displayed does vary. We strayed so far off topic which is why I have given up in "debating"..

Myzz617



Right, we are getting there a bit.

Do you agree that your statement when quoting someone about 720p and 1080p was wrong? Here it is -

"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference"

Forget about other varibles, we were not talking about anything else other than resolution. How you come to the conclusion 1080p is better through larger screens when you admit 1080 is the same in the end is beyond me and it shows how jumbled up your argument is basically because you dont want to admit your wrong.

1080p is 1080p which is 1920 x 1080 and will always be 1920 x 1080. So how you come to the conclusion that resolution on smaller TV's wont be as good as you wont see much difference is pretty stupid when resolutions are fixed and will look the same regardless, you just adjust your viewing distance.



Did you not read the quote before i said that? He said 720p vs 1080P on tv's smaller than 32in there is not much difference. I meant to agree with what he said basically and go on to say 1080P on my 46in is lovely coming from a 32in samsung with 1080i/p. Resolutions are "fixed" but whether a T.V's native res is 1080P is another story. Some Tv's say 1080P capable some clearly say that 1080P is their native res. Just because the resolution is FIXED does not mean that is what your going to get, When I play COD4 or Socom comfrontation it always goes back to 720P unless I change it in my display settings by unchecking 720P than the native resolution kicks in and it plays at 1080P. All the other "variables" play a role in the image quality you get from whatever specific resolution you have is what i am saying. Hope that clears it for YOU!!!



Head, wall, I hear banging.

Please stop confusing things, stop with other varibles, stop with he said that, just stop and listen.

Did you or did you not say -

"Thats because the res on smaller tv's you wont notice much difference"

Can you or can you not admit to that being wrong.

The resolution of a TV or monitor does not change due to size. The difference between 720p and 1080p is the same at 22" as it is at 60" What dont you get about that? Its simple. 1080p on a smaller screen has the pixels closer togther hence why you need to sit closer, but its still the same as 1080p at 60", just the pixels on that are spread further apart, hence you need to sit further away. Its the same amount of pixels on the screen, so how on earth can there be a difference.

And you said I was clueless because I had low level and posts, your something else my friend, you seriously are if you cant grasp that.

I would also like to add that a 1920 x 1080 TV displaying a 720p game would be outputting at 1920 x 1080 anyway unless the game is cropped (borders att he edges). When playing COD4 on The PS3, the PS3 is sending the resolution of the game, 720p to the Tv which says its displaying 720p, but infact if its not cropped, then the TV is displaying its native resolution and doing the upscalling of the game.

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#41 gamer082009
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Wrong. 1080p is just the same at 22" as it is at 60". Your 46" 1080p TV will look no different to any other 1080p TV be it 22" or 60" (taking out all other variables). Resolution is fixed, it doesnt change because the screen size is smaller. Viewing distance is what matters.

shawty1984

A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.



Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.

Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.

To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.

Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.

You're right, the amount of post doesn't really reflect someones knowledge..it just means you post more or less on this site. I can't believe people actually measure intelligence on the amount of post someone makes! lol..wow

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#42 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] A lv 12 80 poster is going to tell me, and sure im going to listen. Please if you know nothing about native resolutions dont bother talking.

gamer082009



Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.

Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.

To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.

Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.

You're right, the amount of post doesn't really reflect someones knowledge..it just means you post more or less on this site. I can't believe people actually measure intelligence on the amount of post someone makes! lol..wow

This has been dead and gone why revive it? OO you want to get your post count higher I see!!!

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#43 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="gamer082009"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

Whats my level got to do with anything. I joined this site long before you did, I just dont visit it much. If thats your attitude, its a wonder your still here.

Getting back to the point, you clearly have no clue what your talking about. Please explain how a screen of 22" 1920 x 1080 is any different to a screen of 60" 1920 x 1080.

To save you any embarrasment, Ill do it myself. There is no difference. They both have the same amount of pixels. The smaller the screen, the closer the pixels hence the closer you need to sit or can sit. If you sit the same distance at a 60" screen, then them pixels are further apart hence you would be able to see the pixels hence why you need to sit further away from the bigger screen. As I said before, resolution is fixed, 1080p doesnt change just because screen size does.

Before you go round accusing people of not knowing what they are taking about, do a bit more research of the subject on hand and also how long the poster has been signed up, not that if I had 10000 posts would matter, amount of posts dont relate to knowledge.

Myzz617

You're right, the amount of post doesn't really reflect someones knowledge..it just means you post more or less on this site. I can't believe people actually measure intelligence on the amount of post someone makes! lol..wow

This has been dead and gone why revive it? OO you want to get your post count higher I see!!!



That post is two days old, was there any need for that.

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#44 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="gamer082009"]You're right, the amount of post doesn't really reflect someones knowledge..it just means you post more or less on this site. I can't believe people actually measure intelligence on the amount of post someone makes! lol..wow

shawty1984

This has been dead and gone why revive it? OO you want to get your post count higher I see!!!



That post is two days old, was there any need for that.

of course there is

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#45 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

This has been dead and gone why revive it? OO you want to get your post count higher I see!!!

Myzz617



That post is two days old, was there any need for that.

of course there is



So one can assume the only reason you did it was to also get your post count up?

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#46 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="Myzz617"]

[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

That post is two days old, was there any need for that.

shawty1984

of course there is



So one can assume the only reason you did it was to also get your post count up?

Doing it the same reason why your doing it my friend. I do not assume because you make yourself become apart of that word if you follow.

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#47 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"]

[QUOTE="Myzz617"] of course there is

Myzz617



So one can assume the only reason you did it was to also get your post count up?

Doing it the same reason why your doing it my friend. I do not assume because you make yourself become apart of that word if you follow.



Im not doing anything. Your the one that had a go at the person for bumping the thread, yet you did exactly the same thing.

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#48 thug_angel123
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Sorry I couldn't resist and had to revive this thread but "Myzz617" you're a douche and probably the worse debater on gs.

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#49 rifts_z
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Sorry I couldn't resist and had to revive this thread but "Myzz617" you're a douche and probably the worse debater on gs.

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#50 monson21502
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even hd cable has 1080i . i wouldnt buy any 720 p no matter what brand untill they came way way down.