What do you think of WoW's xp pack "Mists of Pandaria" from what you h

It really looks terrible to me....just my opinion.

I just don't understand the panda thing and this does not make me want to play WoW in any way.

I was pretty sure I was done with WoW...now I know I am.

What do you think based off of what you have seen?

It really looks terrible to me....just my opinion.

I just don't understand the panda thing and this does not make me want to play WoW in any way.

I was pretty sure I was done with WoW...now I know I am.

What do you think based off of what you have seen?

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It really looks terrible to me....just my opinion.

I just don't understand the panda thing and this does not make me want to play WoW in any way.

I was pretty sure I was done with WoW...now I know I am.

What do you think based off of what you have seen?

MythPro1

Aren't they chinese?

I think its not going to mean the end of WoW, but certainly more kids will be in the game... i still want to check it out atleast once to see all the new stuff.

Love the art, the look of the areas the shown, love the pet battle idea and I like everything else I heard, don't care about dem pandas. DanielDust

I like it. The new continent looks really good and so do the Panda models. The monk class is interesting as is the pet battle system. I dont know how I feel about the talent system because I simply dont care. I also love the rage around the forums with people hating on the pandas. One thing that has left me a bit disapointed is the cap increase only to 90 and the continous neglect of PvP on the part of Blizzard.rzepak

I've played WoW for some period of time every xpac since vanilla. I don't play constantly, I can't handle that much so I do take breaks to recharge the batteries. That being said at this point I have no interest at all returning to the game based on what I've seen so far.

and WoW imo was really never a PvP MMO...FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]and WoW imo was really never a PvP MMO...rzepak

[QUOTE="rzepak"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]and WoW imo was really never a PvP MMO...FelipeInside

indeed WoW's pvp blows chunks i can name games older than WoW with much more balanced pvp.

It really looks terrible to me....just my opinion.

I just don't understand the panda thing and this does not make me want to play WoW in any way.

I was pretty sure I was done with WoW...now I know I am.

What do you think based off of what you have seen?

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Are Pandas Alliance or Horde? They should have put 2 new races like always...FelipeInside

They get to choose their faction at level 10

KUNG FU PANDA!

I like the pet battle idea and the sound of the monk class, I know pandaren is part of WoW lore but I think they'll feel ridiculously out of place in WoW. Nothing can take me back to WoW anyway, I'm interested in playing ToR and GW2.

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It really looks terrible to me....just my opinion.

I just don't understand the panda thing and this does not make me want to play WoW in any way.

I was pretty sure I was done with WoW...now I know I am.

What do you think based off of what you have seen?

Vaah

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It really looks terrible to me....just my opinion.

I just don't understand the panda thing and this does not make me want to play WoW in any way.

I was pretty sure I was done with WoW...now I know I am.

What do you think based off of what you have seen?

FelipeInside

Vaah rarely makes sense.

I havea hard time taking it seriously right now. The only thing I liked is how they said they were going away from the big bad boss theme. When I first played WoW it was all about exploring new lands and meeting NPCs and other players along the way. If they can capture that sense of wonder again, it would be amazing. Having some more endgame progression outside of raids is also nice. It's not a must buy at all for me right now though. TBC, Wrath, and Cataclysm I all wanted from the beginning. I may not have bought them on launch day, but eventually I knew I was going to buy them. MoP I'm really questioning. Expansions have always been the most fun because I love questing, but I'm not sure about the Pandas. WoW has always been more kiddy than other games, but this seems maybe a little too lighthearted. I'm in wait and see mode at least until I see a lot of beta coverage.

I havea hard time taking it seriously right now. The only thing I liked is how they said they were going away from the big bad boss theme. When I first played WoW it was all about exploring new lands and meeting NPCs and other players along the way. If they can capture that sense of wonder again, it would be amazing. Having some more endgame progression outside of raids is also nice. It's not a must buy at all for me right now though. TBC, Wrath, and Cataclysm I all wanted from the beginning. I may not have bought them on launch day, but eventually I knew I was going to buy them. MoP I'm really questioning. Expansions have always been the most fun because I love questing, but I'm not sure about the Pandas. WoW has always been more kiddy than other games, but this seems maybe a little too lighthearted. I'm in wait and see mode at least until I see a lot of beta coverage.

James00715

I'm kind of in a mix about it. I've been playing Warcraft everyday now for over 6 years. The only break I ever took was for not even 2 monthes. I'm so glad we're getting a Monk class, however I'm not too sure about the whole Panda idea. I think they're putting their best efforts in on trying to bring people back and I can see they're also attempting to add other fun things to the game other than just raiding. I'm really liking this PVE scenario idea, it should bring something new to the game.

I'm kind of in a mix about it. I've been playing Warcraft everyday now for over 6 years. The only break I ever took was for not even 2 monthes. I'm so glad we're getting a Monk **** however I'm not too sure about the whole Panda idea. I think they're putting their best efforts in on trying to bring people back and I can see they're also attempting to add other fun things to the game other than just raiding. I'm really liking this PVE scenario idea, it should bring something new to the game.

driftingsilvia

That can't be healthy at all...

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I'm kind of in a mix about it. I've been playing Warcraft everyday now for over 6 years. The only break I ever took was for not even 2 monthes. I'm so glad we're getting a Monk **** however I'm not too sure about the whole Panda idea. I think they're putting their best efforts in on trying to bring people back and I can see they're also attempting to add other fun things to the game other than just raiding. I'm really liking this PVE scenario idea, it should bring something new to the game.

FelipeInside

That can't be healthy at all...

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I'm kind of in a mix about it. I've been playing Warcraft everyday now for over 6 years. The only break I ever took was for not even 2 monthes. I'm so glad we're getting a Monk **** however I'm not too sure about the whole Panda idea. I think they're putting their best efforts in on trying to bring people back and I can see they're also attempting to add other fun things to the game other than just raiding. I'm really liking this PVE scenario idea, it should bring something new to the game.

MythPro1

That can't be healthy at all...

I've been doing both.

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That can't be healthy at all...

GummiRaccoon

I've been doing both.

I've been playing WoW on and off for the past 6 years, wasn't excited for Cata, only just bought it a few days ago. For Mists of Pandaria however, I'm liking what I've seen/heard so far, mostly for the new talent system, which I'm sure will end up getting cookie-cutter builds in the end - but there's still hope, their idea is great.

For pandas and the monk class, they look awesome, not getting what people are complaining about, not like they HAVE to play the newest race if they hate pandas so much.

I like the look of the new areas and would not mind exploring them. Messing around with the monk class could be fun too.

However....

The content will be more of the same. The game will still be full of people who think it does not start until the "end game". Most will not want to explore and really enjoy the new areas.

In other words, pretty wrapping paper with meh inside.

Same old, same old. With a level cap increased by 5 meaning your stats will be even further inflated, as if they werent inflated enough.

At least the fact there is no villain and the pokemon battles look interesting. Though I really wish they would stop increasing the level cap for once so instead of focusing on adding levelling content for the new levels they could add content for all levels and features that will never become obsolete. Essentially each expansion pack really is nothing more than a fresh coat of paint, a paid level cap increase with the occational bonuses thrown in.

Can't wait for it, looks awesome! :D

There's absolutely no reason to add more content to lower levels, if you "think" about it, players already avoid most of the lower level content because they obviously go for the higher level pieces, adding even more higher level pieces, would once again make all players avoid most of the content, because there would be so much to choose from and they're focusing on features that wouldn't become obsolete (like fundamental game features get obsolete)...pet battles, you also forgot new continents, features to further advance classes (not talking about the levels and skills), new quests, dungeons, raids, pvp arenas and battlegrounds and A LOT of various content, those are not "bonuses", the bonuses are the level cap and the engine upgrade that you mentioned (only).DanielDust

The bolded you mentioned are just a fresh coat of paint. The only relevant changes and additions I feel with this expansion pack so far are the pet battles, monk class and talent revamp (much needed btw, Cata's was atrocious).

There is absolutely no reason to raise the level cap. Actually, it does more harm than good in the long run. Particulary since devs need to add content to support the arbitary number increase.

I blame part of this massive stagnation WoW suffers from because of the dev's urge to raise the level cap each "expansion" pack (more like new coats of paint). Heck, many complaints I see about WoW these days is how stagnant the game is, especially compared to how many other mmos evolved during this time. But hopefully those dungeons an raids wont be as boring and downright uninspired as the ones in Cataclysm.

Even pet battles seem rather pointless. Why play WoW's pet minigame when I can play Pokemon whose ruleset has been refined for 5 iterations.

From seeing the video and reading what the expac brings I am not impressed. And with two quality MMOs on the horizon that are going to be genuine rivals (especially GW2 because IMO this is the next big MMO that will redefine the genre) I will never go back to WoW.

I keep expecting it to be some kind of elaborate troll. But it looks legit. I have played maybe 2 months out of the last twelve, Cataclysm was just awful IMO. This looks to be even worse. I remember someone saying a while back when the trademark forms were released that the "asian themed" expansion usually signals the decline of an MMO. I wouldn't be quite so dramatic, but I will say that everything I have seen so far (the pokemon knock-off, the race that appeals to 8 year olds, the ridiculous sounding new class, the ugly zone styling, and the lack of dungeon and raid content) has pretty much put a stake through any interest I've had to return to WoW in the last six months. I'll be keeping my money for GW2 or maybe TOR.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]There's absolutely no reason to add more content to lower levels, if you "think" about it, players already avoid most of the lower level content because they obviously go for the higher level pieces, adding even more higher level pieces, would once again make all players avoid most of the content, because there would be so much to choose from and they're focusing on features that wouldn't become obsolete (like fundamental game features get obsolete)...pet battles, you also forgot new continents, features to further advance classes (not talking about the levels and skills), new quests, dungeons, raids, pvp arenas and battlegrounds and A LOT of various content, those are not "bonuses", the bonuses are the level cap and the engine upgrade that you mentioned (only).Maroxad

The bolded you mentioned are just a fresh coat of paint. The only relevant changes and additions I feel with this expansion pack so far are the pet battles, monk class and talent revamp (much needed btw, Cata's was atrocious).

There is absolutely no reason to raise the level cap. Actually, it does more harm than good in the long run. Particulary since devs need to add content to support the arbitary number increase.

I blame part of this massive stagnation WoW suffers from because of the dev's urge to raise the level cap each "expansion" pack (more like new coats of paint). Heck, many complaints I see about WoW these days is how stagnant the game is, especially compared to how many other mmos evolved during this time. But hopefully those dungeons an raids wont be as boring and downright uninspired as the ones in Cataclysm.

Even pet battles seem rather pointless. Why play WoW's pet minigame when I can play Pokemon whose ruleset has been refined for 5 iterations.

Do you want them to reinvent the game every expansion? That is incredibly asinine. Expansions exist to expand on the game as it already exists. If you want a new game, you need to wait for them to release a new game.

More of the same? Of course, to expect any different is absurd.

People are getting bored with WoW because it is 7 years old.

I've played WoW on and off since the beginning of Vanilla, I enjoyed the time I spent with the game but with the new expansion on the horizon I have no drive to continue subbing once our guild kills Deathwing. I don't care what anyone says about the pandaren lore, it was never detailed or fleshed out and a complete joke for a majority of the community and people treated it as such. Having one hero npc in Warcraft 3 doesn't constitute an entire thought out lore and there is a reason you never saw them again afterward because they were not taken seriously by the developers or players and were there just for kicks.

Of all the years I read the official forums and followed the metagame on wowhead, thottbot, mmo champion etc. never once did I ever see people petitioning, asking, begging or demanding the pandarens to make an appearance in an expansion. The fact that they are making a full expansion dedicated to them just proves to me that they were out of ideas and needed something ridiculous and cute to try and appeal to a completely different audience instead of their original playerbase which they have already started moving away from. This expansion is really just another reason on top of many others that have driven myself, and my fellow guildies from continuing. Just look at the pokemon like minigame they are putting in, its a complete ripoff and a blatant attempt to keep people that are already addicted paying for their cash cow.

Changing the talent point system again? why? it works just fine and no matter how much you change it there will always be a cookie cutter spec that will always be dominating and superior to all others. Really the only thing that I like about it is the monk class, but if the pandarens are the only ones using it...then what is the point? I feel Blizzard has completely dropped the ball with WoW even before this expansion. The soul of the game has long since been eroded and forgotten and replaced with endless addictive daily quests, reputation and epic purple grinds that do nothing to improve the game but instead are created to keep you playing and paying for as long as they can.

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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]There's absolutely no reason to add more content to lower levels, if you "think" about it, players already avoid most of the lower level content because they obviously go for the higher level pieces, adding even more higher level pieces, would once again make all players avoid most of the content, because there would be so much to choose from and they're focusing on features that wouldn't become obsolete (like fundamental game features get obsolete)...pet battles, you also forgot new continents, features to further advance classes (not talking about the levels and skills), new quests, dungeons, raids, pvp arenas and battlegrounds and A LOT of various content, those are not "bonuses", the bonuses are the level cap and the engine upgrade that you mentioned (only).GummiRaccoon

The bolded you mentioned are just a fresh coat of paint. The only relevant changes and additions I feel with this expansion pack so far are the pet battles, monk class and talent revamp (much needed btw, Cata's was atrocious).

There is absolutely no reason to raise the level cap. Actually, it does more harm than good in the long run. Particulary since devs need to add content to support the arbitary number increase.

I blame part of this massive stagnation WoW suffers from because of the dev's urge to raise the level cap each "expansion" pack (more like new coats of paint). Heck, many complaints I see about WoW these days is how stagnant the game is, especially compared to how many other mmos evolved during this time. But hopefully those dungeons an raids wont be as boring and downright uninspired as the ones in Cataclysm.

Even pet battles seem rather pointless. Why play WoW's pet minigame when I can play Pokemon whose ruleset has been refined for 5 iterations.

Do you want them to reinvent the game every expansion? That is incredibly asinine. Expansions exist to expand on the game as it already exists. If you want a new game, you need to wait for them to release a new game.

More of the same? Of course, to expect any different is absurd.

People are getting bored with WoW because it is 7 years old.

Compared to many other mmos, WoW feels very stagnated. Heck, of all the mmos I have played, WoW is one of those that have evolved the least.

I am not expecting Expansions to reinvent WoW, but what I am expecting them to do is to serve as a bit more than just a fresh coat of paint. But for the sake of comparison. Compare EQ2 to its current state, and WoW at launch to its current state. EQ2 evolved a LOT more than WoW during this time.

I've played WoW on and off since the beginning of Vanilla, I enjoyed the time I spent with the game but with the new expansion on the horizon I have no drive to continue subbing once our guild kills Deathwing. I don't care what anyone says about the pandaren lore, it was never detailed or fleshed out and a complete joke for a majority of the community and people treated it as such. Having one hero npc in Warcraft 3 doesn't constitute an entire thought out lore and there is a reason you never saw them again afterward because they were not taken seriously by the developers or players and were there just for kicks.

Of all the years I read the official forums and followed the metagame on wowhead, thottbot, mmo champion etc. never once did I ever see people petitioning, asking, begging or demanding the pandarens to make an appearance in an expansion. The fact that they are making a full expansion dedicated to them just proves to me that they were out of ideas and needed something ridiculous and cute to try and appeal to a completely different audience instead of their original playerbase which they have already started moving away from. This expansion is really just another reason on top of many others that have driven myself, and my fellow guildies from continuing. Just look at the pokemon like minigame they are putting in, its a complete ripoff and a blatant attempt to keep people that are already addicted paying for their cash cow.

Changing the talent point system again? why? it works just fine and no matter how much you change it there will always be a cookie cutter spec that will always be dominating and superior to all others. Really the only thing that I like about it is the monk class, but if the pandarens are the only ones using it...then what is the point? I feel Blizzard has completely dropped the ball with WoW even before this expansion. The soul of the game has long since been eroded and forgotten and replaced with endless addictive daily quests, reputation and epic purple grinds that do nothing to improve the game but instead are created to keep you playing and paying for as long as they can.

Cordliss

I've played WoW on and off since the beginning of Vanilla, I enjoyed the time I spent with the game but with the new expansion on the horizon I have no drive to continue subbing once our guild kills Deathwing. I don't care what anyone says about the pandaren lore, it was never detailed or fleshed out and a complete joke for a majority of the community and people treated it as such. Having one hero npc in Warcraft 3 doesn't constitute an entire thought out lore and there is a reason you never saw them again afterward because they were not taken seriously by the developers or players and were there just for kicks.

Of all the years I read the official forums and followed the metagame on wowhead, thottbot, mmo champion etc. never once did I ever see people petitioning, asking, begging or demanding the pandarens to make an appearance in an expansion. The fact that they are making a full expansion dedicated to them just proves to me that they were out of ideas and needed something ridiculous and cute to try and appeal to a completely different audience instead of their original playerbase which they have already started moving away from. This expansion is really just another reason on top of many others that have driven myself, and my fellow guildies from continuing. Just look at the pokemon like minigame they are putting in, its a complete ripoff and a blatant attempt to keep people that are already addicted paying for their cash cow.

Changing the talent point system again? why? it works just fine and no matter how much you change it there will always be a cookie cutter spec that will always be dominating and superior to all others. Really the only thing that I like about it is the monk class, but if the pandarens are the only ones using it...then what is the point? I feel Blizzard has completely dropped the ball with WoW even before this expansion. The soul of the game has long since been eroded and forgotten and replaced with endless addictive daily quests, reputation and epic purple grinds that do nothing to improve the game but instead are created to keep you playing and paying for as long as they can.

Cordliss

Did you not play during vanilla?

This has always been the case.

Also the talent tree change makes it so people like my mom who play don't look like total idiots when they do 20/20/21 builds

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I've played WoW on and off since the beginning of Vanilla, I enjoyed the time I spent with the game but with the new expansion on the horizon I have no drive to continue subbing once our guild kills Deathwing. I don't care what anyone says about the pandaren lore, it was never detailed or fleshed out and a complete joke for a majority of the community and people treated it as such. Having one hero npc in Warcraft 3 doesn't constitute an entire thought out lore and there is a reason you never saw them again afterward because they were not taken seriously by the developers or players and were there just for kicks.

Of all the years I read the official forums and followed the metagame on wowhead, thottbot, mmo champion etc. never once did I ever see people petitioning, asking, begging or demanding the pandarens to make an appearance in an expansion. The fact that they are making a full expansion dedicated to them just proves to me that they were out of ideas and needed something ridiculous and cute to try and appeal to a completely different audience instead of their original playerbase which they have already started moving away from. This expansion is really just another reason on top of many others that have driven myself, and my fellow guildies from continuing. Just look at the pokemon like minigame they are putting in, its a complete ripoff and a blatant attempt to keep people that are already addicted paying for their cash cow.

Changing the talent point system again? why? it works just fine and no matter how much you change it there will always be a cookie cutter spec that will always be dominating and superior to all others. Really the only thing that I like about it is the monk class, but if the pandarens are the only ones using it...then what is the point? I feel Blizzard has completely dropped the ball with WoW even before this expansion. The soul of the game has long since been eroded and forgotten and replaced with endless addictive daily quests, reputation and epic purple grinds that do nothing to improve the game but instead are created to keep you playing and paying for as long as they can.

Advid-Gamer

It's blizzards fault that you can't manage your time properly? It's blizzards fault that you played a game you didn't find fun?

I'm looking forward to it. The new pet battle system seems interesting, plus having new areas to explore is always great.ForsakenWicked

this, and a new race means everyone will make new characters, making leveling a lot of fun.

I dont like it. Seems totally lazy to just rip off East Asian culture instead of thinking of a new type of culture for a race. Also it only feels like 5 minutes ago the last Xpak was released. Kotick is really milking this game since he got his hands on it.bonafidetk