What gaming PC should I buy?

I've had my eye on the Battalion101X8100-U3 and the Alienware M17x but I dont want to drop two grand of my hard earned money on something thats goin to be outdated in six months to a year. I'm just looking for something thats in the two thousand price range, has a sleek look, can run games on highest quality, weight and battery life really isnt an issue. I'm just mostly concerned with performance, and picture quality. I'm not really a hardcore PC gamer yet but I hope to be, I just need the right equipment. Also really the only reason i'm buying a laptop is for gaming, basically it will be like my Xbox 360 or PS3 so I dont need all the little extras. So all I need is a laptop basically made into a badass console for gaming without all the little expensive extras that i'll never use on a PC game.iOverkill

Doesn't sound like you need it for on the go, so I'm going to suggest you build a desktop pc.

ThaT-Masta

[QUOTE="ThaT-Masta"]

Doesn't sound like you need it for on the go, so I'm going to suggest you build a desktop pc.

iOverkill

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="ThaT-Masta"]

Doesn't sound like you need it for on the go, so I'm going to suggest you build a desktop pc.

Having double the performance at a lesser cost is worth having to carry a computer to a friends house a few times.

You can always get a nice case like the Lanboy air(which has carrying handles) to make it easier..

I just scooted past the replies, I dont think there are to many laptop fans here I Would garner. Check out http://www.notebookreview.com in the discussion part which is there forums. They have sections for every known laptop brand and its heavily used site. I go there everyday for hours, its very wonderous website hehe. Sounds like alienware might be a bit more power under the hood then what you may think. You said something about wanting something to substitue an councel. Well I would suggest maybee an asus republic of gamers G series laptop, maybee a G73/1500$ or G53/1450$. You might also look at an MSI660r/1550$ or sager. The one I would reccomend with you with full confidence knowing its the best gaming laptop there is right now, which is a 15.6 inch sager np 8150 which can be bought from xoticpc. eycel

Buy something like the Lenovo IdeaPadY360p $900 then go build you a 600-800 dollar desktop and sit back and enjoy.

this should be sufficent for all gaming

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dkcwbn2&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=alienware-m17x

Just click review and checkout.

this should be sufficent for all gaming

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dkcwbn2&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=alienware-m17x

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

this should be sufficent for all gaming

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dkcwbn2&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=alienware-m17x

iOverkill

The alienware is better for the following reasons

The alienware use the hd 5870 which is an very powerfull card. All cyberpower models use a card from the geforce 4 series which are known for their excessive heat output and power consumption. Not a good option when buying a laptop or buying a desktop for that matter.

The gtx 460 suffers less from this than the other 4 series but isn't as strong as the hd 5870. They do give sli options for this (two gtx 460 for double the power) but i think you will be in a different price range then (at least 300$) above your 2000$. If your willing to spend that much if would go for one of those cyberpower deals. But this is not a brand name, i've never heard of it , i don't know what the lifetime expectancy will be of these systems.

It will be a long time before you need to upgrade the alienware. The clock of the cpu is only 1.7 ghz but this is to save power the thing will boost to 2.93 ghz

The price range is not that different with the current systems. The 'coming soon' systems are somewhat cheaper though but they ship with a gtx 485 only .

The gtx 480 is known for being to noisy and beign too power hungy (it's the worst of all the 4 series). The gtx 485 is some derived mobile version from it , I shouldn't expect any big improvements on this since it's the same chipset.

I can look into some other manufacturers like acer or ibm but idon't know ifthey will gave the graphical power like an hd 5870.

Everything changes though if youwant a 15 inch screen, i only checked the 17 inch versions

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]

this should be sufficent for all gaming

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dkcwbn2&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=alienware-m17x

evildead6789

The alienware is better for the following reasons

The alienware use the hd 5870 which is an very powerfull card. All cyberpower models use a card from the geforce 4 series which are known for their excessive heat output and power consumption. Not a good option when buying a laptop or buying a desktop for that matter.

The gtx 460 suffers less from this than the other 4 series but isn't as strong as the hd 5870. They do give sli options for this (two gtx 460 for double the power) but i think you will be in a different price range then (at least 300$) above your 2000$. If your willing to spend that much if would go for one of those cyberpower deals. But this is not a brand name, i've never heard of it , i don't know what the lifetime expectancy will be of these systems.

It will be a long time before you need to upgrade the alienware. The clock of the cpu is only 1.7 ghz but this is to save power the thing will boost to 2.93 ghz

The price range is not that different with the current systems. The 'coming soon' systems are somewhat cheaper though but they ship with a gtx 485 only .

The gtx 480 is known for being to noisy and beign too power hungy (it's the worst of all the 4 series). The gtx 485 is some derived mobile version from it , I shouldn't expect any big improvements on this since it's the same chipset.

I can look into some other manufacturers like acer or ibm but idon't know ifthey will gave the graphical power like an hd 5870.

Everything changes though if youwant a 15 inch screen, i only checked the 17 inch versions

Yeah if you're thinking about a desktop is idd a whole different ballgame. Where are you planning to buy your hardware, i supposse you will not be assembling the hardware yourself. If i know where you would buy we can start choosing parts. If you live in the usa you can choose newegg

If you don't assemble your self you can't use newegg. Then you can go with cyberpower. Where do i begin?evildead6789

Alienware seems like a good choice to me.iOverkill

NO!

Any reason why?iOverkill

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

[QUOTE="iOverkill"] I took T Masta's advice and started checking out custom PC's from Cyber Power and your right, I can get twice the capabilities for the same price and i'll have more options for upgrade's in the future. Is Cyber Power a good choice to build a custom PC with?ThaT-Masta

The alienware is better for the following reasons

The alienware use the hd 5870 which is an very powerfull card. All cyberpower models use a card from the geforce 4 series which are known for their excessive heat output and power consumption. Not a good option when buying a laptop or buying a desktop for that matter.

The gtx 460 suffers less from this than the other 4 series but isn't as strong as the hd 5870. They do give sli options for this (two gtx 460 for double the power) but i think you will be in a different price range then (at least 300$) above your 2000$. If your willing to spend that much if would go for one of those cyberpower deals. But this is not a brand name, i've never heard of it , i don't know what the lifetime expectancy will be of these systems.

It will be a long time before you need to upgrade the alienware. The clock of the cpu is only 1.7 ghz but this is to save power the thing will boost to 2.93 ghz

The price range is not that different with the current systems. The 'coming soon' systems are somewhat cheaper though but they ship with a gtx 485 only .

The gtx 480 is known for being to noisy and beign too power hungy (it's the worst of all the 4 series). The gtx 485 is some derived mobile version from it , I shouldn't expect any big improvements on this since it's the same chipset.

I can look into some other manufacturers like acer or ibm but idon't know ifthey will gave the graphical power like an hd 5870.

:lol: There are soo many things wrong with this I don't know where to begin...

First your comparing the 5870 Mobility to the GTX 460. It is not the same as the desktop version of the same number, it's about the performance of the 5770. So 460 would beat it.

Se above. Another 460 $300? They're about $200 for the 1GB overclocked versions. And you could fit that well within a $2000 budget.

You can't upgrade laptops, it is what you buy it as. And that CPU is weak compared to desktop CPU's.

Where'd the 480 come from? The 460 doesn't share all the same traits.

for your information i'm comparing the 5870 mobility with the gtx 460 mobility. I was talking about laptops here, why would i throw a gtx 460 desktop version into the mix. If you add the price of another 460 in sli (they give that option) it's 2300 $ with the cheapest 17 inch performance laptop.simple mathematics really.

I only said upgrade because the op was talking about upgrading , i thought he was talking about laptops and that cyberpower gave that option. I know upgrading isn't something common in laptops. If it would have mattered i would have researched it.

There newest laptops (with sandy bridge cpu) ship with a gtx 485 that's were the gtx480 comes from and not with an gtx 460.

Fine with me if you want to argue, but i can't really see the value of your arguments here

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]If you don't assemble your self you can't use newegg. Then you can go with cyberpower. Where do i begin?ThaT-Masta

This + this and you'll be set for a few years.

And for a future upgrade just add another 570 and you'll be fine for a few more.

you said you wanted to buy a laptop that would blow past games for the next few years? No laptop out there exists like that in this world. The thing is even if the cpu in the laptop is good, they are clocked downward and are gimped to save battery life. So newer games will be bottlenecked by your cpu in about an year. Some laptops have high end video cards but they are also gimped. So both the laptop cpu and video card become out dated pretty fast and you won't be able to upgrade them at ALL. So your option is to buy a gaming pc that will blow past any and all games for the next 3-4 years and when that time comes all you'll need to do is upgrade the video card and then blow past all games once again. OR you can buy new laptops every 2 years to blow past games. Your choice bo.

ok i presume you won't be assembling yourself and since cyberpower seems like very good stuff for desktops I chose this for you http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/cart/showcart.aspx?url=%2fsystem%2fGamer_Xtreme_6000&ref=add 1920$ That's one beast of a machine I made exactly the same system for someone you can read all information on that thread .evildead6789

I only said alienware because i though you wanted a laptop, now go with cyberpower and choose the link above for your system if you still need a monitor i would go with t-masta's choice.

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]If you don't assemble your self you can't use newegg. Then you can go with cyberpower. Where do i begin?ThaT-Masta

This + this and you'll be set for a few years.

And for a future upgrade just add another 570 and you'll be fine for a few more.

you said you wanted to buy a laptop that would blow past games for the next few years? No laptop out there exists like that in this world. The thing is even if the cpu in the laptop is good, they are clocked downward and are gimped to save battery life. So newer games will be bottlenecked by your cpu in about an year. Some laptops have high end video cards but they are also gimped. So both the laptop cpu and video card become out dated pretty fast and you won't be able to upgrade them at ALL. So your option is to buy a gaming pc that will blow past any and all games for the next 3-4 years and when that time comes all you'll need to do is upgrade the video card and then blow past all games once again. OR you can buy new laptops every 2 years to blow past games. Your choice bo.

blaznwiipspman1

you can easily change the body in the configurator. All i actually did was choose the Gamer Xtreme 6000 and added another 6950 card in there and changed the psu to a corsair 1000W

I'm assuming you looked at the PC that he posted earlier for sixteen hundred. Well I looked on http://computers.toptenreviews.com/gaming/cyberpower/cyperpower-pc-black-pearl-review.html and found this one to have better specs for three hundred cheaper. What do you guys think about it?iOverkill

[QUOTE="iOverkill"]I'm assuming you looked at the PC that he posted earlier for sixteen hundred. Well I looked on http://computers.toptenreviews.com/gaming/cyberpower/cyperpower-pc-black-pearl-review.html and found this one to have better specs for three hundred cheaper. What do you guys think about it?C_Rule

[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="iOverkill"]I'm assuming you looked at the PC that he posted earlier for sixteen hundred. Well I looked on http://computers.toptenreviews.com/gaming/cyberpower/cyperpower-pc-black-pearl-review.html and found this one to have better specs for three hundred cheaper. What do you guys think about it?iOverkill

[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="iOverkill"]I'm assuming you looked at the PC that he posted earlier for sixteen hundred. Well I looked on http://computers.toptenreviews.com/gaming/cyberpower/cyperpower-pc-black-pearl-review.html and found this one to have better specs for three hundred cheaper. What do you guys think about it?iOverkill

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="C_Rule"] What the hell, how can that thing be $1,300??? The CPU and GPUs are worth my than that by themselves. What am I missing?C_Rule

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="C_Rule"] What the hell, how can that thing be $1,300??? The CPU and GPUs are worth my than that by themselves. What am I missing?ThaT-Masta

No it wouldn't. $1300 is the base price. Which includes i7-950 and 6850. Not the 980x and SLI 580's which was reviewed.

[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="iOverkill"] So this PC would be my best choice and if I did choose this how could I change the body style?iOverkill

These are two pc's that i've added to card

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/cart/showcart.aspx?ref=upd

The first one will perform 3 times as strong as what you just posted

The second one will perform 2 times as strong as what you just posted

there are two pc's in the card , the first one is 1931$ the second one is 1533 $ What do you want to spend i thought you said two grand so 2000$ If you tell me the budget i can adaptevildead6789

lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did evildead6789