What gaming PC should I buy?

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did iOverkill

Yes, it would :P if you give a budget, and persay a case with stylings that you like, im sure many of the great pc builders on here could come up with some great combinations that will perform better. I just built my system(see below) for 867 with shipping and taxes(thats also CAD $).

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did mitch2411

Yes, it would :P if you give a budget, and persay a case with stylings that you like, im sure many of the great pc builders on here could come up with some great combinations that will perform better. I just built my system(see below) for 867 with shipping and taxes(thats also CAD $).

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did ThaT-Masta

And don't forget to change to cpu to the i7-2600k.

If he wants to save money that would be a bad idea because not even a gtx 580 bottlenecks an i3 . An i3 you can use for performance gaming. Only if you go to extreme vga configurations like putting a hd 6950 in crossfire then you go higher. The maximum that you should go is the i5-2500 k or an i5-760.

I7 is way overkill but if you can pay for it it can be usefull for the future but that's hard to predict. If he would want to spend more i'd put 6970 in crossfire.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did iOverkill

If you have never assembled before i wouldn't do this.

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did evildead6789

If you have never assembled before i wouldn't do this.

building a pc is very easy, just make sure not to build it on a carpet or something stupid like that.

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

[QUOTE="iOverkill"] Would my PC be more efficient and cheap if I just buy seperate parts from newegg and assemble them myself? Then it would be totally customized, idk if most people do that.iOverkill

Yes, it would :P if you give a budget, and persay a case with stylings that you like, im sure many of the great pc builders on here could come up with some great combinations that will perform better. I just built my system(see below) for 867 with shipping and taxes(thats also CAD $).

Yea lets keep it on this one now, dont need to take over his thread... You will need all the parts listed in the other thread, along with a OS(I dont remember if there was one) and a monitor, mouse keyboard etc. 1500-2000 is the most I would recommend, save the rest because you would be entering overkill where money doesnt scale well with performance. Basically get a 2600k, p67 mobo(p8p67 deluxe... etc). Get a nice corsair 850W PSU, a GTX 570 or 2, 4 or 8gb of ram, whatever you want, standard dvd, 1+TB WD Black(or other of your choice), hyper 212+, dont need to overclock, just to be cool and quiet, and the case you want... I can make up a build using newegg if you'd like. Others feel free to jump in.

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="mitch2411"]

Yes, it would :P if you give a budget, and persay a case with stylings that you like, im sure many of the great pc builders on here could come up with some great combinations that will perform better. I just built my system(see below) for 867 with shipping and taxes(thats also CAD $).

Yea lets keep it on this one now, dont need to take over his thread... You will need all the parts listed in the other thread, along with a OS(I dont remember if there was one) and a monitor, mouse keyboard etc. 1500-2000 is the most I would recommend, save the rest because you would be entering overkill where money doesnt scale well with performance. Basically get a 2600k, p67 mobo(p8p67 deluxe... etc). Get a nice corsair 850W PSU, a GTX 570 or 2, 4 or 8gb of ram, whatever you want, standard dvd, 1+TB WD Black(or other of your choice), hyper 212+, dont need to overclock, just to be cool and quiet, and the case you want... I can make up a build using newegg if you'd like. Others feel free to jump in.

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

[QUOTE="iOverkill"] Haha I guess we're thread jumping now but two thousand to twenty five hundred would be my maximum budget. I just need to know how many parts there are and what is reccomended? iOverkill

Yea lets keep it on this one now, dont need to take over his thread... You will need all the parts listed in the other thread, along with a OS(I dont remember if there was one) and a monitor, mouse keyboard etc. 1500-2000 is the most I would recommend, save the rest because you would be entering overkill where money doesnt scale well with performance. Basically get a 2600k, p67 mobo(p8p67 deluxe... etc). Get a nice corsair 850W PSU, a GTX 570 or 2, 4 or 8gb of ram, whatever you want, standard dvd, 1+TB WD Black(or other of your choice), hyper 212+, dont need to overclock, just to be cool and quiet, and the case you want... I can make up a build using newegg if you'd like. Others feel free to jump in.

Yeah it would be nice if you're spending so much money that you actually know what your talking about. the 2600 k is a waste of money if you only buy a gtx 570 not even an i3 processor will be bottlenecked by that. The performance gain you will have will be multiple times more when you spend that money on a better gpu. Besides advising to assemble to somebody that hasn't have any experience with such expensive parts is a bad idea. that guy could be in for a real nightmare. Especially when the prices on cyberworld are pretty sharp and everything comes with the package.

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

Yeahh! It would be really nice if you could make me a rig on newegg so I know what parts are reccomended and I need then i'll go back and make my own that I would prefer after I know what I need and i'll show you guys then yall can give some feedback and let me know if its any good. Would that work?iOverkill

Absolutely. Here is my recommendation....

DVD Drive

Case : NZXT Phantom(thought you might like it but IDK, feel free to change)

HDD : 1TB WD B 6 GB/S

Graphics Cards : 2 x Sapphire 6950 Feel free to cut one out for cost.

PSU : Corsair 850W PSU

RAM : 8GB G.Skill RipJaws X DDR3-1333(designed for sandy bridge apparently)

MOBO : P8P67 PRO(I have it and love it)

CPU : Core i5 2500K(I got a 2500k to spend more on graphics, a core i7 2600k would perform slightly better for 100 bucks more)

OS : Windows 7 home premium

CPU Cooler : Hyper 212+(dont have to overclock, its just quiter and cooler)

TOTAL : $1,524.89

Add a nice monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse whatever to that and you would be good to go.

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="mitch2411"]

Yea lets keep it on this one now, dont need to take over his thread... You will need all the parts listed in the other thread, along with a OS(I dont remember if there was one) and a monitor, mouse keyboard etc. 1500-2000 is the most I would recommend, save the rest because you would be entering overkill where money doesnt scale well with performance. Basically get a 2600k, p67 mobo(p8p67 deluxe... etc). Get a nice corsair 850W PSU, a GTX 570 or 2, 4 or 8gb of ram, whatever you want, standard dvd, 1+TB WD Black(or other of your choice), hyper 212+, dont need to overclock, just to be cool and quiet, and the case you want... I can make up a build using newegg if you'd like. Others feel free to jump in.

Yeah it would be nice if you're spending so much money that you actually know what your talking about. the 2600 k is a waste of money if you only buy a gtx 570 not even an i3 processor will be bottlenecked by that. The performance gain you will have will be multiple times more when you spend that money on a better gpu. Besides advising to assemble to somebody that hasn't have any experience with such expensive parts is a bad idea. that guy could be in for a real nightmare. Especially when the prices on cyberworld are pretty sharp and everything comes with the package.

and how actually you justify 2 gb ram lolevildead6789

That was a slight grammar mistake, i meant a gtx 570 OR 2... not 2 gb of ram. I do think I know what I am talking about, See my new build I posted for him, and please add in your own input. He said he was competent with his hands, and an i3 with a gtx 570 would be almost shameful, it deserves a decent quad, and quads are justified in most newer titles.

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="mitch2411"]

Yeahh! It would be really nice if you could make me a rig on newegg so I know what parts are reccomended and I need then i'll go back and make my own that I would prefer after I know what I need and i'll show you guys then yall can give some feedback and let me know if its any good. Would that work?

Absolutely. Here is my recommendation....

DVD Drive

Case : NZXT Phantom(thought you might like it but IDK, feel free to change)

HDD : 1TB WD B 6 GB/S

Graphics Cards : 2 x Sapphire 6950 Feel free to cut one out for cost.

PSU : Corsair 850W PSU

RAM : 8GB G.Skill RipJaws X DDR3-1333(designed for sandy bridge apparently)

MOBO : P8P67 PRO(I have it and love it)

CPU : Core i5 2500K(I got a 2500k to spend more on graphics, a core i7 2600k would perform slightly better for 100 bucks more)

OS : Windows 7 home premium

CPU Cooler : Hyper 212+(dont have to overclock, its just quiter and cooler)

TOTAL : $1,524.89

Add a nice monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse whatever to that and you would be good to go.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

[QUOTE="iOverkill"] Yeahh! It would be really nice if you could make me a rig on newegg so I know what parts are reccomended and I need then i'll go back and make my own that I would prefer after I know what I need and i'll show you guys then yall can give some feedback and let me know if its any good. Would that work?iOverkill

Yeah it would be nice if you're spending so much money that you actually know what your talking about. the 2600 k is a waste of money if you only buy a gtx 570 not even an i3 processor will be bottlenecked by that. The performance gain you will have will be multiple times more when you spend that money on a better gpu. Besides advising to assemble to somebody that hasn't have any experience with such expensive parts is a bad idea. that guy could be in for a real nightmare. Especially when the prices on cyberworld are pretty sharp and everything comes with the package.

Hes commenting on my incompetence, not yours my friend, I gave you bad suggestions apparently, and I do agree that the prices are quite high for cyber power pc's. There is an entire guide to putting a pc together on this forum, use that and follow the instructions provided in the manual(mostly for the cpu cooler) and you are good to go, its not really hard.

This is 13$ less only than exactlythe samesetup i've posted and my setup has a 1000W psu and they add a keyboard , mouse AND the guys assemble, install & test it for you. So this is better how? rofl

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="mitch2411"]

Yeahh! It would be really nice if you could make me a rig on newegg so I know what parts are reccomended and I need then i'll go back and make my own that I would prefer after I know what I need and i'll show you guys then yall can give some feedback and let me know if its any good. Would that work?iOverkill

Absolutely. Here is my recommendation....

DVD Drive

Case : NZXT Phantom(thought you might like it but IDK, feel free to change)

HDD : 1TB WD B 6 GB/S

Graphics Cards : 2 x Sapphire 6950 Feel free to cut one out for cost.

PSU : Corsair 850W PSU

RAM : 8GB G.Skill RipJaws X DDR3-1333(designed for sandy bridge apparently)

MOBO : P8P67 PRO(I have it and love it)

CPU : Core i5 2500K(I got a 2500k to spend more on graphics, a core i7 2600k would perform slightly better for 100 bucks more)

OS : Windows 7 home premium

CPU Cooler : Hyper 212+(dont have to overclock, its just quiter and cooler)

TOTAL : $1,524.89

Add a nice monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse whatever to that and you would be good to go.

SSD's are quite a bit faster than HDD's, but they come at a high price. You could add an SSD to my build to store your most used applications and os on. This would increase boot times and loading times when using those applications. SSD's are quite expensive... A 1TB would be approaching the cost of your entire build.

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="mitch2411"]

Yeahh! It would be really nice if you could make me a rig on newegg so I know what parts are reccomended and I need then i'll go back and make my own that I would prefer after I know what I need and i'll show you guys then yall can give some feedback and let me know if its any good. Would that work?mitch2411

Absolutely. Here is my recommendation....

DVD Drive

Case : NZXT Phantom(thought you might like it but IDK, feel free to change)

HDD : 1TB WD B 6 GB/S

Graphics Cards : 2 x Sapphire 6950 Feel free to cut one out for cost.

PSU : Corsair 850W PSU

RAM : 8GB G.Skill RipJaws X DDR3-1333(designed for sandy bridge apparently)

MOBO : P8P67 PRO(I have it and love it)

CPU : Core i5 2500K(I got a 2500k to spend more on graphics, a core i7 2600k would perform slightly better for 100 bucks more)

OS : Windows 7 home premium

CPU Cooler : Hyper 212+(dont have to overclock, its just quiter and cooler)

TOTAL : $1,524.89

Add a nice monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse whatever to that and you would be good to go.

I just want to say it again. This is only 13$ less than my setup. This is EXACTLY the same setup i've posted from cyberworld. Only my setup has a 1000W Psu and a keyboard and mouse AND cyberworld ASSEMBLES, INSTALLS & TESTS it for you. So this is better how?

This is 13$ less only than exactlythe samesetup i've posted and my setup has a 1000W psu and they add a keyboard , mouse AND the guys assemble, install & test it for you. So this is better how? rofl

evildead6789

I did not see your shopping cart because when I opened the link, it said it was empty, so I am sorry that I can not make a proper comparison for you, if you would like to post the specs I will gladly have a look at them and concede if they are indeed much better than mine. A 1000W PSU is quite the overkill for such a build(mine) and would be an absolute waste. Im sure the mouse and keyboard that is provided are of actual worth, and why pay guys to assemble when you can? The testing is a nice added feature.

anyhow i give upevildead6789

Please I wish to see the cart you provided, but it says its empty when I open it, I want to be wrong, I dont do this often so I will accept defeat and not do it again, but I have no evidence otherwise.

lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did evildead6789

okay let me repeat it again

Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc which is the same as the newegg setup only with mouse& keyboard, assembled, installed tested and a 1000W cpu (from corsair)

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did evildead6789

okay let me repeat it again

Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc

I did not see that until now, and I have done it, my pc will end up being about 100 dollars less using a comparable HDD and Case.

EDIT : It evens out with the PSU, albeit very much overkill.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]lol could be with those generated sites. Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc. Thrust me it will be the best thing you've ever did mitch2411

okay let me repeat it again

Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc

I did not see that until now, and I have done it, my pc will end up being about 100 dollars less using a comparable HDD and Case.

you're only using a 850W psu which will work but a 1000W is recommended. If you choose an 850 W cpu in cyberworld you will save 100$ too besides your forgetting he get's a working system to his door.

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

DVD Drive

Case : NZXT Phantom(thought you might like it but IDK, feel free to change)

HDD : 1TB WD B 6 GB/S

Graphics Cards : 2 x Sapphire 6950 Feel free to cut one out for cost.

PSU : Corsair 850W PSU

RAM : 8GB G.Skill RipJaws X DDR3-1333(designed for sandy bridge apparently)

MOBO : P8P67 PRO(I have it and love it)

CPU : Core i5 2500K(I got a 2500k to spend more on graphics, a core i7 2600k would perform slightly better for 100 bucks more)

OS : Windows 7 home premium

CPU Cooler : Hyper 212+(dont have to overclock, its just quiter and cooler)

TOTAL : $1,524.89

Add a nice monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse whatever to that and you would be good to go.

ThaT-Masta

Nice build.

The case is also available in black and white if OP find's that more attractive.

And do yourself a favor and get a modular PSU! So you don't have extra wire hanging around and have a overall cleaner looking pc.

I thought so, but cyberpowerpc has beaten me out with its p67 configurator... I would still go with this though but thats my opinion, i like this case/price bracket for the case much more.

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

okay let me repeat it again

Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc

evildead6789

I did not see that until now, and I have done it, my pc will end up being about 100 dollars less using a comparable HDD and Case.

you're only using a 850W psu which will work but a 1000W is recommended. If you choose an 850 W cpu in cyberworld you will save 100$ too besides your forgetting he get's a working system to his door.

I fail to see how 1000 is recommended since a system with crossfire 6950's uses just under 500 watts(that doesnt mean a 500W will work) but I do agree he will get a working system at his door, just take the 850W and get a better case, whatever suits the OP's needs.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-crossfirex-review/14

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1488/18/

Well thanks guys. I've learned alot more now but I have one last question; does having certain parts for each area make the PC better. For example, say I have a specific graphics card with a specific processor or any other part for that matter make it a better PC. Like do certain parts favor each other?iOverkill

Not usually, and if they do(I can only think of matching amd's parts) it will be minimal at best.

Not really. it wasn't like that in the past though so i understand your questionevildead6789

Hey evil I wasnted to apologize for the little battle we just had, the cyberpower pc is better for him. So hopefully you wont take everything i say as crap and hopefully we can work together on helping others in the future.

Oh okay. I've been using this website to find parts, do you guys know if its reliable? http://computers.toptenreviews.com/gaming/iOverkill

Im not sure, I know the cyberpower build that was quoted earlier by evil was quite good. I have never used that site, because I dont plan on buying prebuilts.

[QUOTE="iOverkill"]Oh okay. I've been using this website to find parts, do you guys know if its reliable? http://computers.toptenreviews.com/gaming/mitch2411

Im not sure, I know the cyberpower build that was quoted earlier by evil was quite good. I have never used that site, because I dont plan on buying prebuilts.

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

[QUOTE="iOverkill"]Oh okay. I've been using this website to find parts, do you guys know if its reliable? http://computers.toptenreviews.com/gaming/iOverkill

Im not sure, I know the cyberpower build that was quoted earlier by evil was quite good. I have never used that site, because I dont plan on buying prebuilts.

Do this, provided by evil.

Just go to configurator and choose CyberPower P67 Configurator. Then change the videocard 1 to hd 6950 and videocard 2 to hd 6950. Change the powersupply to corsair 1000W and you should have a 1533$ pc which is the same as the newegg setup only with mouse& keyboard, assembled, installed tested and a 1000W cpu (from corsair)

If you wish to have a different case, choose a different one and drop the psu to a 850W corsair to save money, it will not hurt your system to run 850W vs 1000W.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]Not really. it wasn't like that in the past though so i understand your questionmitch2411

Hey evil I wasnted to apologize for the little battle we just had, the cyberpower pc is better for him. So hopefully you wont take everything i say as crap and hopefully we can work together on helping others in the future.

Don't sweat it, i love these discussions because you can learn from it. You didn't ask to backup my arguments which isn't always good because i could selling you crap.

Anyways because you're so sportmanslike i will give you some articles that you can learn from or make you more badass in these kinda of discussions.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-radeon-hd-6870-geforce-gtx-570,2834-7.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-overclocking-phenom-ii-x4,2826-6.html

These articles are updated montly so a great help if you want to compare cpu's and gpu's

The sandy bridge isn't added in the comparison chart but this article sums it up

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833.html

The next article is about the bottleneck statement i made from i3 processors

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i3-gaming,2588.html

Other good site is techpowerup if you want to compare benchmarks for videocards and guru 3d also has some great articles.

Greetz fellow wizard

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]Not really. it wasn't like that in the past though so i understand your questionevildead6789

Hey evil I wasnted to apologize for the little battle we just had, the cyberpower pc is better for him. So hopefully you wont take everything i say as crap and hopefully we can work together on helping others in the future.

Don't sweat it, i love these discussions because you can learn from it. You didn't ask to backup my arguments which isn't always good because i could selling you crap.

Anyways because you're so sportmanslike i will give you some articles that you can learn from or make you more badass in these kinda of discussions.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-radeon-hd-6870-geforce-gtx-570,2834-7.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-overclocking-phenom-ii-x4,2826-6.html

These articles are updated montly so a great help if you want to compare cpu's and gpu's

The sandy bridge isn't added in the comparison chart but this article sums it up

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833.html

The next article is about the bottleneck statement i made from i3 processors

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i3-gaming,2588.html

Other good site is techpowerup if you want to compare benchmarks for videocards and guru 3d also has some great articles.

Greetz fellow wizard

I know all of that stuff already(not to sound cocky), the i3 gaming article doesnt really use many very heavily multi-threaded games but I do agree that a quad isnt always needed, just preferred. There is a reason I have the build I have, I have looked at all the reviews, seperately, not comparison charts for almost all the new graphics cards, i know the hierarchy pretty good(sorta when considering sli/crossfire) :P I dont pay attention to overclocking, and dont compare overclock vs stock, unless its sold overclocked(then price is taken into consideration).

I mainly use guru3d, tomshardware, and kitguru(more for news) for most of my review needs, I like their articles the most.

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

Not really. it wasn't like that in the past though so i understand your questionevildead6789

Hey evil I wasnted to apologize for the little battle we just had, the cyberpower pc is better for him. So hopefully you wont take everything i say as crap and hopefully we can work together on helping others in the future.

Don't sweat it, i love these discussions because you can learn from it. You didn't ask to backup my arguments which isn't always good because i could selling you crap.

Anyways because you're so sportmanslike i will give you some articles that you can learn from or make you more badass in these kinda of discussions.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-radeon-hd-6870-geforce-gtx-570,2834-7.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-overclocking-phenom-ii-x4,2826-6.html

These articles are updated montly so a great help if you want to compare cpu's and gpu's

The sandy bridge isn't added in the comparison chart but this article sums it up

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833.html

The next article is about the bottleneck statement i made from i3 processors

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i3-gaming,2588.html

Other good site is techpowerup if you want to compare benchmarks for videocards and guru 3d also has some great articles.

Greetz fellow wizard

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

[QUOTE="mitch2411"]

Hey evil I wasnted to apologize for the little battle we just had, the cyberpower pc is better for him. So hopefully you wont take everything i say as crap and hopefully we can work together on helping others in the future.

iOverkill

Don't sweat it, i love these discussions because you can learn from it. You didn't ask to backup my arguments which isn't always good because i could selling you crap.

Anyways because you're so sportmanslike i will give you some articles that you can learn from or make you more badass in these kinda of discussions.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-radeon-hd-6870-geforce-gtx-570,2834-7.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-overclocking-phenom-ii-x4,2826-6.html

These articles are updated montly so a great help if you want to compare cpu's and gpu's

The sandy bridge isn't added in the comparison chart but this article sums it up

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i7-2600k-core-i5-2500k,2833.html

The next article is about the bottleneck statement i made from i3 processors

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i3-gaming,2588.html

Other good site is techpowerup if you want to compare benchmarks for videocards and guru 3d also has some great articles.

Greetz fellow wizard

Bottlenecking is where a piece of hardware is slowing down the whole system because it is not up to par to pump out the performance as everything else. Basically its so much slower than the rest of the pc that it holds it back.

i forgot that you we're saying that the 1000 W psu was overkill and you posted the wattage those gpu's use. I read those articles too and in the past i shared your opion but i also have posted a lot on http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/ and that site is filled with professionals. A lot of pro's there pointed me out to always use a lot more psu power than needed because usb devices printers added pci cards also use power still it doesn't justify the overkill in power but the electrical net has sometimes spikes (also small ones) and a psu get a lot more stressed when gaming for long periods. The hardware is also subjected to wear 'n tear so in the long run you need more W especially when going crossfire with high end cards. they know this because a lot of guys there working with gaming pc's and a lot break down after a couple of years because of the psu. I mostly work on business pc's or custom made stuff for my work but i won't go into that. Gaming pc's is a hobby of mine. The rule they followed is choosing a psu that's about double the power your system is using barebone but with the vga w added. so i kinda followed em in that. evildead6789

My rule of thumb has been the wattage for the system +250W, that would mean 750W is what I would use. Then again to each his own, I would put the money else where is all. Regardless im going to sleep, classes tomorrow, gotta help a buddy put a pc together too :)

so evil dead if someone wanted to do sli 580's then they would need to get a 2000 watt psu? That doesn't make any sense, and 850 watts is more than enough for CF 6950's. A chart showed that cf xfire 6950 uses about 330 watts under full load, so add a cpu ram, hdd, monitor, kb/m and other peripherals maybe the total will come to 500 watts. With an 850 watt psu you have 350 watt headroom to work with. 1000 watts is un necessary.

a gtx 580 doesn t use 800 w but 380w so a 1200 watt psu will be sufficient you re point doesn t make sense besides i just use information of people that encouter these things in the field. Systems with lower psu break down faster. It s just the way it is. The 6950 in crossfire uses 450 W underload add 150w for your system and some usb devices and you re above 600w. That doesn t leave much headroom when the capacitators start to age .

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