Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
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Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
All you would have to do is back-up your games on a disc or external hard drive.Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
tjricardo089
[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]All you would have to do is back-up your games on a disc or external hard drive.Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
SF_KiLLaMaN
I don't think (for example) that backed up steam games run without steam installed.
All you would have to do is back-up your games on a disc or external hard drive.[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
tjricardo089
I don't think (for example) that backed up steam games run without steam installed.
They would remove the DRM from the games. I'mt sure how it would actually work, but they won't let everyone's games disappear. They will have some way for your to back -up your games.All you would have to do is back-up your games on a disc or external hard drive.[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
tjricardo089
I don't think (for example) that backed up steam games run without steam installed.
That's because Steam is still in business
If they go out of business they just unlock your games, Steam has already tested it if and when they ever have the need.
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] All you would have to do is back-up your games on a disc or external hard drive.Jaysonguy
I don't think (for example) that backed up steam games run without steam installed.
That's because Steam is still in business
If they go out of business they just unlock your games, Steam has already tested it if and when they ever have the need.
What about the other services? Origin, Impulse and GOG?
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[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
I don't think (for example) that backed up steam games run without steam installed.
tjricardo089
That's because Steam is still in business
If they go out of business they just unlock your games, Steam has already tested it if and when they ever have the need.
What about the other services? Origin, Impulse and GOG?
THey'll do the same
It doesn't matter if you buy a game digitally or retail, you're only buying a license to the software. People are always like digital is bad blah blah blah but it's the same thing just a different delivery system.
If whatever digital place goes out of business they'll unlock your games and then users will have to come up with the hundreds of DVD's needed to back up everything for their games.
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
That's because Steam is still in business
If they go out of business they just unlock your games, Steam has already tested it if and when they ever have the need.
Jaysonguy
What about the other services? Origin, Impulse and GOG?
THey'll do the same
It doesn't matter if you buy a game digitally or retail, you're only buying a license to the software. People are always like digital is bad blah blah blah but it's the same thing just a different delivery system.
If whatever digital place goes out of business they'll unlock your games and then users will have to come up with the hundreds of DVD's needed to back up everything for their games.
Sounds awful, hope they never go out of business :)
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[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
What about the other services? Origin, Impulse and GOG?
tjricardo089
THey'll do the same
It doesn't matter if you buy a game digitally or retail, you're only buying a license to the software. People are always like digital is bad blah blah blah but it's the same thing just a different delivery system.
If whatever digital place goes out of business they'll unlock your games and then users will have to come up with the hundreds of DVD's needed to back up everything for their games.
Sounds awful, hope they never go out of business :)
At first i hated the idea and now ive grown to love steam..Its so convenient a sevice...It be a dark day in heck if it did ever happen..Id be sad kind of way..Only because you go to gamestop they have nothing..You would have to order stuff on amazon..No five dollar deals sigh
Hopefully they will release something that allows games tied to it to work without the service. However don't forget that a similar thing can affect retail bought games, if the developer chose to protect it with an authentication server - if that company goes out of business, potentially the only means of installing and activating goes with them - so this isn't just a risk for DD gamesHello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
tjricardo089
Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
tjricardo089
they would release patches so you can play them without their services
As it stands these services are putting PC gaming shelves in stores out of business, until you are able to telepathically transfer games out of the air and to your PC or holodeck I think it is a safe industry.Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
tjricardo089
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[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
What about the other services? Origin, Impulse and GOG?
tjricardo089
THey'll do the same
It doesn't matter if you buy a game digitally or retail, you're only buying a license to the software. People are always like digital is bad blah blah blah but it's the same thing just a different delivery system.
If whatever digital place goes out of business they'll unlock your games and then users will have to come up with the hundreds of DVD's needed to back up everything for their games.
Sounds awful, hope they never go out of business :)
No one ever provides a link to that Valve policy btw. That's because it doesn't exist.[QUOTE="tjricardo089"][QUOTE="sfkillaman"] All you would have to do is back-up your games on a disc or external hard drive.sfkillaman
I don't think (for example) that backed up steam games run without steam installed.
They would remove the DRM from the games. I'mt sure how it would actually work, but they won't let everyone's games disappear. They will have some way for your to back -up your games. I don't know why you think they would. Doing something like that would be rather difficult for every single game. Even if Valve was alright with doing it, it doesn't mean all the publishers would agree to it. The more likely out come is that you would be **** out of luck, because really, services like Steam don't have any guarantees like that. You're just paying for a licence to play, which they can terminate whenever the hell they feel like. As far as I know, the only digital distribution you can count on 100% is GOG. If for whatever reason you lose the game, it would be at your own fault. Even if they were to close down, they would allow for everyone to re download their games.[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] All you would have to do is back-up your games on a disc or external hard drive.Jaysonguy
I don't think (for example) that backed up steam games run without steam installed.
That's because Steam is still in business
If they go out of business they just unlock your games, Steam has already tested it if and when they ever have the need.
No, the source of this is some vague promise. Valve wouldn't do it because if they were going out of business they simply wouldn't have the resources to make every game DRM-free. Even if they did touch the games it would cause legal issues because they are breaching contract and it would open up nastly lawsuits against Gabe unless there is a clause in the agreement that lets them do that.
Why would you even worry about something like this? These companies you have mentioned will never ever go out of business. Unless they wanted to close themselves. Even if they do lose it, you would probably be dead, i can see Steam sticking around for a long time.
Everything fails doesn't matter how big it is. Look at SEGA a few years ago, who would say it would stop making consoles?... but it did.
[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
Everything fails doesn't matter how big it is. Look at SEGA a few years ago, who would say it would stop making consoles?... but it did.
Jaysonguy
They're still in business!
What does that have to do with anything?
Yes they are but not on the console business, only on videogame business. It has to do that we can't rely on 'it's never ending because the corporation is huge'...
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[QUOTE="tjricardo089"]
Everything fails doesn't matter how big it is. Look at SEGA a few years ago, who would say it would stop making consoles?... but it did.
tjricardo089
They're still in business!
What does that have to do with anything?
Yes they are but not on the console business, only on videogame business. It has to do that we can't rely on 'it's never ending because the corporation is huge'...
Sega was never huge
They were an arcade company that were always beaten in the console race.
I don't see why you want to drag this on and on and on. A digital license to a game is exactly like a retail license for a game, if the places that sold digitally went under you would still hold a license for whatever game and that would be unlocked when they went under.
I don't see why you keep on trying to make this harder then it has to be, I mean you've run out of arguments and now you're bringing up arguments that don't have anything to do with what you're asking.
If you buy a retail game and the company goes under you're not able to activate it and the software is useless, bad things happen because that's life, we deal.
SEGA was never huge... nice.
I'm not out of arguments I just want to be sure that in the future I will be able to play the games I rightfully own.
Like i said before: They said it on their support forum and that they had even done a test to see if it would work. Now they do not have to do this. If they do it its because they feel like being nice. >>>>>>But lets be honest... If worst come to worst and they wont do it. Well... Right now there are ways to get around steam DRM if you want to. And im very sure some cracking group would unlock it all in the end.KalDurenik
They have to do it, it's not a question of choice on their side
The litigation that would follow would destroy the lives of everyone tied with the services
Like i said before: They said it on their support forum and that they had even done a test to see if it would work. Now they do not have to do this. If they do it its because they feel like being nice. >>>>>>But lets be honest... If worst come to worst and they wont do it. Well... Right now there are ways to get around steam DRM if you want to. And im very sure some cracking group would unlock it all in the end.KalDurenikAnd again... no link is provided. Something a mod said in passing doesn't count as Valve policy. Heck, even something a Valve employee said in passing doesn't count as Valve policy. Besides, if by some magical reason Valve goes broke, how do people think they will be able to get the rights from all the publishers to unlock the games from Steam, and who will volunteer to stay there and do that when the company is shut down? No one. It won't happen.
As others have said though, it's the same with many games now because so many have online activations. If you want to keep playing games, it's best not to worry about it too much and support the companies that don't have such restrictive DRM.
how do people think they will be able to get the rights from all the publishers to unlock the games from Steam, and who will volunteer to stay there and do that when the company is shut down? No one. It won't happen.
guynamedbilly
1. They don't need the rights, they sell licenses to games just like retail does, if they ever decided to go in a completely offline direction they could cut ties and unlock everyone's games with no ramifications
2. Who would unlock them? The people who don't want to go to jail, now you say that everyone at Valve would love to go to jail but I'm on the other side that says incarceration isn't a favorite of anyone at Valve and they'd pay people to make the patches needed to unlock the games.
If they all went out of business the PC game market would collapse. Not only would you most likely lose your games and saves, but your gaming PC would probably become a lot more pointless.Hello. What happens to my games if Valve (Steam), Electronic Arts (Origin), Impulse and Good old Games go out of business? I just lose all my games?
tjricardo089
2. Who would unlock them? The people who don't want to go to jail, now you say that everyone at Valve would love to go to jail but I'm on the other side that says incarceration isn't a favorite of anyone at Valve and they'd pay people to make the patches needed to unlock the games.
Jaysonguy
I doubt that. They have no obligation to give us games after they bankrupt or go out of business.
I don't think (for example) that backed up steam games run without steam installed.tjricardo089True, Steam has to be running or a game won't work at all. Impulse is needed only for installation, patching and registration. GamersGate only requires their installer, like GoG, but GoG is DRM-free.
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2. Who would unlock them? The people who don't want to go to jail, now you say that everyone at Valve would love to go to jail but I'm on the other side that says incarceration isn't a favorite of anyone at Valve and they'd pay people to make the patches needed to unlock the games.
tjricardo089
I doubt that. They have no obligation to give us games after they bankrupt or go out of business.
Nope, every single region that Steam does business in has laws in place to prevent that very thing from happening.
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
2. Who would unlock them? The people who don't want to go to jail, now you say that everyone at Valve would love to go to jail but I'm on the other side that says incarceration isn't a favorite of anyone at Valve and they'd pay people to make the patches needed to unlock the games.
Jaysonguy
I doubt that. They have no obligation to give us games after they bankrupt or go out of business.
Nope, every single region that Steam does business in has laws in place to prevent that very thing from happening.
Link or isn't truth...
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]
2. Who would unlock them? The people who don't want to go to jail, now you say that everyone at Valve would love to go to jail but I'm on the other side that says incarceration isn't a favorite of anyone at Valve and they'd pay people to make the patches needed to unlock the games.
Jaysonguy
I doubt that. They have no obligation to give us games after they bankrupt or go out of business.
Nope, every single region that Steam does business in has laws in place to prevent that very thing from happening.
:lol:
They don't, and they even say so in their ToS. If they go out of business they have no legal obligation to you at all.
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Honestly, Valve's ToS (and ones like it) should be illegal. It basically says they can do whatever they want, add anything to the agreement, and you have no rights even to the point you have to right to bring suit against them...the only course for action is cancel your account which in effect cancels all your game subscriptions lol.
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