What is battlenecking my games?

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#1 jed-at-war
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When you are in are large area like outside in Oblivion, you suffer a hit to your fps. I am guessing that this drop is caused by the VGA. When I am in a large area like a wherehouse, I take a hit to my frame rate even if I am looking at a wall. Even though their is nothing special on the screen, is this the VGA as well? Is it the RAM speed since it has a large area loaded? Is it the CPU?

Which part is mainly responsable for the large fps drop when you are in a large area and are looking at a wall?

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#2 mbukste
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Dude,can you even RUN oblivion? *Points to your sig*
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#3 jed-at-war
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Dude,can you even RUN oblivion? *Points to your sig*mbukste

Of course not, but it was an example. What I am asking is not related to my rig. It is more of a general question of what parts of your computer influence your frame per second most in certain places of a game.

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#4 mbukste
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[QUOTE="mbukste"]Dude,can you even RUN oblivion? *Points to your sig*jed-at-war

Of course not, but it was an example. What I am asking is not related to my rig. It is more of a general question of what parts of your computer influence your frame per second most in certain places of a game.

Oh,well to answer your question it would probably be the GPU (AKA Grafx Card)
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#5 jed-at-war
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[QUOTE="jed-at-war"]

[QUOTE="mbukste"]Dude,can you even RUN oblivion? *Points to your sig*mbukste

Of course not, but it was an example. What I am asking is not related to my rig. It is more of a general question of what parts of your computer influence your frame per second most in certain places of a game.

Oh,well to answer your question it would probably be the GPU (AKA Grafx Card)

Thanks. Just to say it:

My fps drops by about 5fps every time an enemy is on the screen. I am awesuming that my cpu can't handle the AI amoung other things. ^_^

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#6 mbukste
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[QUOTE="mbukste"][QUOTE="jed-at-war"]

[QUOTE="mbukste"]Dude,can you even RUN oblivion? *Points to your sig*jed-at-war

Of course not, but it was an example. What I am asking is not related to my rig. It is more of a general question of what parts of your computer influence your frame per second most in certain places of a game.

Oh,well to answer your question it would probably be the GPU (AKA Grafx Card)

Thanks. Just to say it:

My fps drops by about 5fps every time an enemy is on the screen. I am awesuming that my cpu can't handle the AI amoung other things. ^_^

LOL WUT
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#7 X360PS3AMD05
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What is battlenecking? :P
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#8 jed-at-war
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I was wondering what part has the most effect on the frame rates in large areas even when you are looking at a wall (you can't see the large area): the vga, cpu, ram.
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#9 Darkfire6247
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What is battlenecking? :PX360PS3AMD05

lol...he's just messing with you...the term is bottlenecking.

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#10 jed-at-war
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]What is battlenecking? :PDarkfire6247

lol...he's just messing with you...the term is bottlenecking.

No, that would be stupid. It was a typo.

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#11 04dcarraher
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Well with Oblivion it wasnt the best optimized to begin with and was a direct port,so unless you got top end hardware its going to lag in places or low fps outside.
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#12 _SKatEDiRt_
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what about in half life 2 lost coast when you first start out i dont get more than 50fps in that big area.
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what about in half life 2 lost coast when you first start out i dont get more than 50fps in that big area._SKatEDiRt_
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[QUOTE="mbukste"]Dude,can you even RUN oblivion? *Points to your sig*jed-at-war

Of course not, but it was an example. What I am asking is not related to my rig. It is more of a general question of what parts of your computer influence your frame per second most in certain places of a game.

well we'd have to know your specs in order to answer that because it could be any part itcould be your cpu ram or video card its not like there's only a bottleneck with one of them
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#15 jed-at-war
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[QUOTE="jed-at-war"]

[QUOTE="mbukste"]Dude,can you even RUN oblivion? *Points to your sig*mastershake575

Of course not, but it was an example. What I am asking is not related to my rig. It is more of a general question of what parts of your computer influence your frame per second most in certain places of a game.

well we'd have to know your specs in order to answer that because it could be any part itcould be your cpu ram or video card its not like there's only a bottleneck with one of them

How would you find out what part is bottlenecking your system? I could tell you that the rig in question is in my sig, but I'm not because I want to learn how to know what part it is myself. ;)

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#16 bigmit37
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What is battlenecking? :PX360PS3AMD05

Simple, it's a couple trying to see who can give one another the biggest hickey!

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#17 b0ssy
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battlenecking:

1) to battle your neck

2) have a battle between necks:P

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#18 imprezawrx500
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I would say your cpu is the weakest link. It from when? 2000? while the gpu is a 2003/04 midrange card
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There was an article written early this year/late last year on either HardOCP or Tom's Hardware examining this exact question. Their conclusion - if I recall - was that even old computers are capable of running modern games when they have the latest graphics card installed. After that came the CPU, bus speed (I know, weird), system memory, and then I forget. :)

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#20 Rhamsus
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There was an article written early this year/late last year on either HardOCP or Tom's Hardware examining this exact question. Their conclusion - if I recall - was that even old computers are capable of running modern games when they have the latest graphics card installed. After that came the CPU, bus speed (I know, weird), system memory, and then I forget. :)

Bozanimal

bus speed is very important. its literally the speed at which data can be sent between components. (simple defintion) low bus speeds will slow down the fastest of CPUs.

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#21 Bozanimal
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[QUOTE="Bozanimal"]

There was an article written early this year/late last year on either HardOCP or Tom's Hardware examining this exact question. Their conclusion - if I recall - was that even old computers are capable of running modern games when they have the latest graphics card installed. After that came the CPU, bus speed (I know, weird), system memory, and then I forget. :)

Rhamsus

bus speed is very important. its literally the speed at which data can be sent between components. (simple defintion) low bus speeds will slow down the fastest of CPUs.

Rhamsus, you make me feel like that ad where Jessica Simpson says, "It's broadcast in 1080i, I don't know what that means but I want it," only I'm less hot. Much less.

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#22 Rhamsus
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[QUOTE="Rhamsus"][QUOTE="Bozanimal"]

There was an article written early this year/late last year on either HardOCP or Tom's Hardware examining this exact question. Their conclusion - if I recall - was that even old computers are capable of running modern games when they have the latest graphics card installed. After that came the CPU, bus speed (I know, weird), system memory, and then I forget. :)

Bozanimal

bus speed is very important. its literally the speed at which data can be sent between components. (simple defintion) low bus speeds will slow down the fastest of CPUs.

Rhamsus, you make me feel like that ad where Jessica Simpson says, "It's broadcast in 1080i, I don't know what that means but I want it," only I'm less hot. Much less.

i have to admit, i lol'd. thanks for the new sig.

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#23 jed-at-war
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[QUOTE="Bozanimal"]

There was an article written early this year/late last year on either HardOCP or Tom's Hardware examining this exact question. Their conclusion - if I recall - was that even old computers are capable of running modern games when they have the latest graphics card installed. After that came the CPU, bus speed (I know, weird), system memory, and then I forget. :)

Rhamsus

bus speed is very important. its literally the speed at which data can be sent between components. (simple defintion) low bus speeds will slow down the fastest of CPUs.

That is why Intel's systems are faster. Intel has bus speeds of 266MB-333MB while AMD has 200MB