What is the best PC game ever made?

FPS's... people, if you've played one, you've played them all. IMO atleast, they are a dime a dozen, all the same concept, point shoot, point shoot, take cover, ect. Don't get me wrong, I like FPS's, but they aren't special, there are countless FPS's and RPG's out there anyone could name by their standards the best PC game ever. This ENTIRE thread you can see is my example. Rune is my nominee for best PC game ever. Right, you never heard of it? I know. It exists. Trust me.

i think half life 2 is the greatest game ever for the pc.

Crysis was an excellent game, till some aliens came along and ruined it.

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For me its Freelancer.

AFBrat77

Look for that game in my 2003 Polls when we get there ;).

i would have to say Half life 1/2 and/or Diablo 2 + LoD

I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS! Why hasnt anyone said Diablo? I mean c'mon! Diablo was a true RpG game still played today as the nerdiest game to play! SERIOUSLY!kris9031998

World of Warcraft followed by The Sims. Nonetheless, there's an arsenal number of fantastic PC games.

Impossible to say, but some honorable mentions are Might and Magic 6, Baldurs Gate and HOMM 3

[QUOTE="kris9031998"]I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS! Why hasnt anyone said Diablo? I mean c'mon! Diablo was a true RpG game still played today as the nerdiest game to play! SERIOUSLY!Cdscottie

Omg , are you actually serious ?!

I have to say that this is post of the week or even month...

Diablo series are ethalon to Hack'n slash RPG genre.

FPS's... people, if you've played one, you've played them all. IMO atleast, they are a dime a dozen, all the same concept, point shoot, point shoot, take cover, ect. Don't get me wrong, I like FPS's, but they aren't special, there are countless FPS's and RPG's out there anyone could name by their standards the best PC game ever. This ENTIRE thread you can see is my example. Rune is my nominee for best PC game ever. Right, you never heard of it? I know. It exists. Trust me.

Spirit0123

There are no wrong answers. That said you pretty much discredit any opinion you have by picking Rune as best pc game ever.:) No offense indended just my opinion.

[QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="kris9031998"]I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS! Why hasnt anyone said Diablo? I mean c'mon! Diablo was a true RpG game still played today as the nerdiest game to play! SERIOUSLY!kazakauskas

Omg , are you actually serious ?!

I have to say that this is post of the week or even month...

Diablo series are ethalon to Hack'n slash RPG genre.

Yes there are different types of RPGs now. Diablo and it's like are considered action RPGs. Baldurs and it's like are CRPGs or WRPGs for computer/western and JRPG for Japanese. I make these distinctions because I don't like ARPGs as much as I do CRPGs. I've never played a JRPG so I have no opinion on them. In any case you all should lighten up on each other.

Planescape: Torment is the correct answer to this question. It is, however, an incomplete answer. Torment is not the best PC game ever made. It is the best game ever made PERIOD.nocoolnamejim

Now thats just propaganda .

[QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="kris9031998"]I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS! Why hasnt anyone said Diablo? I mean c'mon! Diablo was a true RpG game still played today as the nerdiest game to play! SERIOUSLY!kazakauskas

Omg , are you actually serious ?!

I have to say that this is post of the week or even month...

Diablo series are ethalon to Hack'n slash RPG genre.

Another thread that derailed because of pointless genre debates.....Diablo is an RPG period, that is not debatable, whether people like to place it in one of the tenths of subgenres they might invent or keep it into the general place, RPG, is their problem.

I think people are taking games for granted these days. Only recently did games actually have choices that change the story or game advancement, the old games barely did a single thing other than a different "text" response.

Anyway, there is no such thing as the best game ever made, but there are several superb games.

Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines or Deus Ex.

There are many great games on PC but a game that i personally think is the best would have to be : World of Warcraft.

Ya ya... i know the graphics arnt the best but gameplay and fun is what im concerned about. Graphics arnt that bad in wrath thoe.

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[QUOTE="Cdscottie"] RPG and Diablo are a loose relationship. Diablo and Diablo 2 had a great story and fun gameplay but RPG it was not. An RPG would be something along the lines of Baldurs Gate, Fallout 1 and 2, etc.Cdscottie

Omg , are you actually serious ?!

I have to say that this is post of the week or even month...

Diablo series are ethalon to Hack'n slash RPG genre.

Tbh i dont know what arguments to give you after such response... You do actually know that RPG is a large genre ? Do you know what is hack'n slash RPG games ?

Ill just quote you from wikipedia and you can go talk with whoever wrote (and rest of the world) that they are wrong. cheers

quote from diablo wikipedia page"Diablois adark fantasy-themedaction role-playing gamedevelopedbyBlizzard Northand released byBlizzard Entertainmenton January 2, 1997."

qoute from Diablo 2 wikipedia page"Diablo IIis adark fantasy-themedaction role-playing game, with elements of thehack and slashand "dungeonroaming" genres. It was released forWindowsandMac OSin 2000 byBlizzard Entertainment, and was developed byBlizzard North. It is the sequel to the 1996 hit PC game,Diablo."

All i can say to you : go and read about thing you will argue about before talking about it.

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Omg , are you actually serious ?!

I have to say that this is post of the week or even month...

Diablo series are ethalon to Hack'n slash RPG genre.

kazakauskas

Tbh i dont know what arguments to give you after such response... You do actually know that RPG is a large genre ? Do you know what is hack'n slash RPG games ?

Ill just quote you from wikipedia and you can go talk with whoever wrote (and rest of the world) that they are wrong. cheers

quote from diablo wikipedia page"Diablois adark fantasy-themedaction role-playing gamedevelopedbyBlizzard Northand released byBlizzard Entertainmenton January 2, 1997."

qoute from Diablo 2 wikipedia page"Diablo IIis adark fantasy-themedaction role-playing game, with elements of thehack and slashand "dungeonroaming" genres. It was released forWindowsandMac OSin 2000 byBlizzard Entertainment, and was developed byBlizzard North. It is the sequel to the 1996 hit PC game,Diablo."

All i can say to you : go and read about thing you will argue about before talking about it.

Crysis was an excellent game, till some aliens came along and ruined it.

the_mitch28

Actually, I liked the aliens. What I didn't like were the game levels the designers came up with for them in the original game. I think they were much better in Warhead although I have a few gripes with that game too.

Crysis was an excellent game, till some aliens came along and ruined it.

the_mitch28

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[QUOTE="Cdscottie"] Tell me, what do you actually roleplay in Diablo 2? A sword totting barbarian? Is there any character development? Any choices to change the world or story? It's a kill, kill, kill and if you lose you restart till you win. I love Diablo 2 but as I said, it has very few RPG elements other then a skill tree and inventory management and heck, FPSs and RTSs these days incorporate that. Does that make those FPSs and RTSs roleplaying games?Cdscottie

Tbh i dont know what arguments to give you after such response... You do actually know that RPG is a large genre ? Do you know what is hack'n slash RPG games ?

Ill just quote you from wikipedia and you can go talk with whoever wrote (and rest of the world) that they are wrong. cheers

quote from diablo wikipedia page"Diablois adark fantasy-themedaction role-playing gamedevelopedbyBlizzard Northand released byBlizzard Entertainmenton January 2, 1997."

qoute from Diablo 2 wikipedia page"Diablo IIis adark fantasy-themedaction role-playing game, with elements of thehack and slashand "dungeonroaming" genres. It was released forWindowsandMac OSin 2000 byBlizzard Entertainment, and was developed byBlizzard North. It is the sequel to the 1996 hit PC game,Diablo."

All i can say to you : go and read about thing you will argue about before talking about it.

Look at your argument from this side : al heavy music is 1 genre (usually groups go from Hard Rock to Metal / heavy metal very often) so Van Halen plays heavy music , now is this heavy metal or metal or hard rock is subgenre. Same with diablo. Now you are saying that Diablo isnt RPG is like me saying that Van Halen is a POP or club music group . While you can discuss that Dablo is one or other subgenre you have to agree with whole world. ass ppl say "dont try to invent bicycle again" . Diablo IS rpg and it resembles disciption of those subgenres of RPG , so why say it isnt ?

I mean , if you just say "Diablo isnt RPG ! who cares that in standarts that whole world use for a long time it indeed is RPG, but i , personaly , disagree with old rules and say that it isnt RPG" i cant say anything as i just dont see a point .

The half life series... Every PC game has to play a half life game in order to be called a "PC gamer".

The half life series... Every PC game has to play a half life game in order to be called a "PC gamer".

Curlyfrii87

[QUOTE="Cdscottie"] Remember, this is a forum and thus we are entitled to our opinions. Back in the 80's Van Halen was tagged as Hair Metal but many fans debated them being incorporated into this genre. Why can't people do the same for games? And as I said, I loved Diablo and Diablo 2 immensely I just don't believe it has much to do with roleplaying. Does that make my opinion wrong? No, does it make yours? No. This is a forum and opinions are to be debated to spark conversation/debates. As for "Go and read about the thing you will argue about before talking about it." I have read the entirety of both wikipages as well as countless sites and although they state it as a action RPG, I still do not agree with it being pegged with the genre. kazakauskas

Look at your argument from this side : al heavy music is 1 genre (usually groups go from Hard Rock to Metal / heavy metal very often) so Van Halen plays heavy music , now is this heavy metal or metal or hard rock is subgenre. Same with diablo. Now you are saying that Diablo isnt RPG is like me saying that Van Halen is a POP or club music group . While you can discuss that Dablo is one or other subgenre you have to agree with whole world. ass ppl say "dont try to invent bicycle again" . Diablo IS rpg and it resembles disciption of those subgenres of RPG , so why say it isnt ?

I mean , if you just say "Diablo isnt RPG ! who cares that in standarts that whole world use for a long time it indeed is RPG, but i , personaly , disagree with old rules and say that it isnt RPG" i cant say anything as i just dont see a point .

After that example, I have to say that I agree with you. Even though it does not fit my personal definition of what an RPG is, doesn't mean it does not exist in an RPG sub-genre. Well played.

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[QUOTE="Cdscottie"] Remember, this is a forum and thus we are entitled to our opinions. Back in the 80's Van Halen was tagged as Hair Metal but many fans debated them being incorporated into this genre. Why can't people do the same for games? And as I said, I loved Diablo and Diablo 2 immensely I just don't believe it has much to do with roleplaying. Does that make my opinion wrong? No, does it make yours? No. This is a forum and opinions are to be debated to spark conversation/debates. As for "Go and read about the thing you will argue about before talking about it." I have read the entirety of both wikipages as well as countless sites and although they state it as a action RPG, I still do not agree with it being pegged with the genre. Cdscottie

Look at your argument from this side : al heavy music is 1 genre (usually groups go from Hard Rock to Metal / heavy metal very often) so Van Halen plays heavy music , now is this heavy metal or metal or hard rock is subgenre. Same with diablo. Now you are saying that Diablo isnt RPG is like me saying that Van Halen is a POP or club music group . While you can discuss that Dablo is one or other subgenre you have to agree with whole world. ass ppl say "dont try to invent bicycle again" . Diablo IS rpg and it resembles disciption of those subgenres of RPG , so why say it isnt ?

I mean , if you just say "Diablo isnt RPG ! who cares that in standarts that whole world use for a long time it indeed is RPG, but i , personaly , disagree with old rules and say that it isnt RPG" i cant say anything as i just dont see a point .

After that example, I have to say that I agree with you. Even though it does not fit my personal definition of what an RPG is, doesn't mean it does not exist in an RPG sub-genre. Well played.

Wow , im truly amazed bud . Tbh i thought you were one of those internet "i dont care what you say , ill just keep saying my own " guys. Respect bud :)

Diablo 2 has never been a true RPG, its an Action RPG hybrid.

Still, the original game had an impact on the RPG genre.

Rpg= role playing game.

Type of rpgs:

You create your character and take roles and make various choices along the game.(can you say bioware?)

Story driven with one single character, it is an rpg because you take the role of that character and play as him. (eg the witcher)

Jrpgs: story driven but you take the role of multiple characters when fighting.(final fantasy)

Hack and slash rpgs, you create a character and level up with your own share of weapons, armors and spels. (Diablo) Also we got the category MMORPG which you level up like crazy too. Those two games are focus in character development rpg aspect, as "leveling up" rather than "dialog choices and actions to align yourself in good or evil"

Action and exploration rpgs. Either action games with light or heavy rpg elements and exploration, gothic, morrowind, oblivion, fallout 3, deus ex. Or a mix of the above such as biablo+ fps = borderlands action hack and slach rpg or Fallout 3 as shooter+exploration, character creation and skill development or mass effect 2 as shooter +with light skill development and exploration but heavy character good/evil alligment and character creation as role playing and dialogue choice making that affects the world around the player and the story.

Anyway thats what i think.

The PC is known for Crysis, so i will give it some credit.

But it is just a standard shooter.

I would say the best PC game is Stalker: SoC. Or maybe like an older rainbow 6 game. Like raven shield.

Crypt_mx

Doom 2

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Mafia
Civ 4
Detroit - remember that game????
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I will continue to argue that Planescape: Torment is the best PC game ever made. Fantastic story telling, strong Role playing elements (especially when it came to character interaction and exploration), a fantastic atmosphere and somewhat original sci-fi/fantasy setting. And every time i played through it, it always felt like a different game.

StarCraft 2, X-Com, Oblivion

Very hard to just pick one, but it has to be Mafia. The game is epic and certainly is like the Godfather of gaming, and the story is so well written and directed your pulled into the story and genuinely care for the characters and what happens.

Command and conquer red alert

This one is the best RPG and best PC game ever made in my opinion:

Mine changes every once in a while, right now it would have to be Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy. Had so much fun with the MP and that last best game of thread reminded me of the Jedi Knight series...

I will continue to argue that Planescape: Torment is the best PC game ever made. Fantastic story telling, strong Role playing elements (especially when it came to character interaction and exploration), a fantastic atmosphere and somewhat original sci-fi/fantasy setting. And every time i played through it, it always felt like a different game.

gamer620

I'm going with Homeworld.

I'm going with Homeworld.

Wasdie

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