What is the bottleneck in my system. How do I get better quality out of Crysis..

lol maybe that could be but right now it's real nice

[QUOTE="joshuahaveron"]

There's no bottleneck there, just a GPU which isn't powerful enough. To get better fps out of crysis, you would need to replace your CPU and GPU> But for one game is it worth it?

Slig0

Yes, there is. Have you owned that card to be professional in how the things work on it? I had a Core2Duo E4600 overclocked to 3.42, 4GB of RAM and 8800GT. With those specs I could easily max out Crysis at 1680x1050 all Very high with no AA. Butter smooth. So please, people, STOP TALKING S * * T WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW SOMETHING.

Wow, hold up! I have a E8400 3.0 ghz, 4 gigs ddr2 800 mhz, and a Bfg gtx 285 ocx. I guess I must have a bottle nect as well because at 1920x1080 the games frame rate jumpes around to much. I can be at 50 fps and the in the 20's just like that. I actually hate the way crysis runs on 1920x1080. I dont know what elese to upgrade every other game I have runs perfect maxxed.

[QUOTE="Slig0"]

[QUOTE="joshuahaveron"]

There's no bottleneck there, just a GPU which isn't powerful enough. To get better fps out of crysis, you would need to replace your CPU and GPU> But for one game is it worth it?

Advid-Gamer

Yes, there is. Have you owned that card to be professional in how the things work on it? I had a Core2Duo E4600 overclocked to 3.42, 4GB of RAM and 8800GT. With those specs I could easily max out Crysis at 1680x1050 all Very high with no AA. Butter smooth. So please, people, STOP TALKING S * * T WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW SOMETHING.

Wow, hold up! I have a E8400 3.0 ghz, 4 gigs ddr2 800 mhz, and a Bfg gtx 285 ocx. I guess I must have a bottle nect as well because at 1920x1080 the games frame rate jumpes around to much. I can be at 50 fps and the in the 20's just like that. I actually hate the way crysis runs on 1920x1080. I dont know what elese to upgrade every other game I have runs perfect maxxed.

It's not that you cant max out Crysis at that res and have an enjoyable experience with any single GPU on the market now. GTX295 and a 4870x2 is a different story.

Are you honstly going to take the advice of a guy who says that he maxes out Crysis no problem on an 8800gt at 1680x1050?

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="Slig0"]

Yes, there is. Have you owned that card to be professional in how the things work on it? I had a Core2Duo E4600 overclocked to 3.42, 4GB of RAM and 8800GT. With those specs I could easily max out Crysis at 1680x1050 all Very high with no AA. Butter smooth. So please, people, STOP TALKING S * * T WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW SOMETHING.

artiedeadat40

Wow, hold up! I have a E8400 3.0 ghz, 4 gigs ddr2 800 mhz, and a Bfg gtx 285 ocx. I guess I must have a bottle nect as well because at 1920x1080 the games frame rate jumpes around to much. I can be at 50 fps and the in the 20's just like that. I actually hate the way crysis runs on 1920x1080. I dont know what elese to upgrade every other game I have runs perfect maxxed.

It's not that you cant max out Crysis at that res and have an enjoyable experience with any single GPU on the market now. GTX295 and a 4870x2 is a different story.

Are you honstly going to take the advice of a guy who says that he maxes out Crysis no problem on an 8800gt at 1680x1050?

NO, I never beleived him. I had sapphire 3870 which is very close to a 8800gt so I know the truth. Are byou saying I need a a gtx 295 to run crysis decently at my rez? I have beaten crysis/crysis warheard but the fact they run so sh**** still bothers me.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="Slig0"]

Yes, there is. Have you owned that card to be professional in how the things work on it? I had a Core2Duo E4600 overclocked to 3.42, 4GB of RAM and 8800GT. With those specs I could easily max out Crysis at 1680x1050 all Very high with no AA. Butter smooth. So please, people, STOP TALKING S * * T WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW SOMETHING.

artiedeadat40

Wow, hold up! I have a E8400 3.0 ghz, 4 gigs ddr2 800 mhz, and a Bfg gtx 285 ocx. I guess I must have a bottle nect as well because at 1920x1080 the games frame rate jumpes around to much. I can be at 50 fps and the in the 20's just like that. I actually hate the way crysis runs on 1920x1080. I dont know what elese to upgrade every other game I have runs perfect maxxed.

It's not that you cant max out Crysis at that res and have an enjoyable experience with any single GPU on the market now. GTX295 and a 4870x2 is a different story.

Are you honstly going to take the advice of a guy who says that he maxes out Crysis no problem on an 8800gt at 1680x1050?

no bottleneck, but a better gpu and/or cpu would give a boost. On a side note, why do people keep claiming they can max out crysis with a 8800? Are they playing at like 10 fps?

Yeah my 8800gt with full aa and resolution with max settings i'm probably getting somewhere around 15fps without any action. lol

[QUOTE="artiedeadat40"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Wow, hold up! I have a E8400 3.0 ghz, 4 gigs ddr2 800 mhz, and a Bfg gtx 285 ocx. I guess I must have a bottle nect as well because at 1920x1080 the games frame rate jumpes around to much. I can be at 50 fps and the in the 20's just like that. I actually hate the way crysis runs on 1920x1080. I dont know what elese to upgrade every other game I have runs perfect maxxed.

Advid-Gamer

It's not that you cant max out Crysis at that res and have an enjoyable experience with any single GPU on the market now. GTX295 and a 4870x2 is a different story.

Are you honstly going to take the advice of a guy who says that he maxes out Crysis no problem on an 8800gt at 1680x1050?

NO, I never beleived him. I had sapphire 3870 which is very close to a 8800gt so I know the truth. Are byou saying I need a a gtx 295 to run crysis decently at my rez? I have beaten crysis/crysis warheard but the fact they run so sh**** still bothers me.

Of course, don't believe. Why would you? I'm just super happy in decieving people to go and buy 8800GT so I can have the best system of all of you. I say again, I did max out Crysis. Ok, I lied, it was not BUTTER smooth, but it WAS F****NG DECENT GAMEPLAY. And I know it, you do not need to believe me, I don't care. One thing: Resolution has a huge impact in Crysis on some (or all) ATI and nvidia cards. When set to 1440x900 with 4xAA it never goes below 28FPS. Even when I drop the AA, no changes (29FPS FRAPS average, don't have the log now but will prove). Same setting on 1680x1050 brings me minimum FPS in the range of 18, and maximum like 31FPS.

Yeah my 8800gt with full aa and resolution with max settings i'm probably getting somewhere around 15fps without any action. lol

streetridaz

Well yeah. Without AA I was getting around 18FPS Crysis DX10 Very High maxed 1680x1050. But in Crysis, everything above 18~19 is playable. Lol, if oyu get that FPS in Far Cry 2, you can easily kill yourself how bad it is :D

Is the only normal person here 04dcarraher???

no bottleneck, but a better gpu and/or cpu would give a boost. On a side note, why do people keep claiming they can max out crysis with a 8800? Are they playing at like 10 fps?

TerroRizing

FOR F***'S SAKE PPL. If you don't believe me, DON'T! Keep it to yourselves. I know the truth and here it is: CRYSIS MAXED DX10 1680x1050 18FPS!!!!!!!!!! P L A Y A B L E O N 8 8 0 0 G T

[QUOTE="streetridaz"]

Yeah my 8800gt with full aa and resolution with max settings i'm probably getting somewhere around 15fps without any action. lol

Slig0

Well yeah. Without AA I was getting around 18FPS Crysis DX10 Very High maxed 1680x1050. But in Crysis, everything above 18~19 is playable. Lol, if oyu get that FPS in Far Cry 2, you can easily kill yourself how bad it is :D

no athlon CPU, even the 6000 can handle crysis at high and maintain a decent fps, wait untill u get later in the game and then u will see. Chris_53

[QUOTE="Chris_53"]no athlon CPU, even the 6000 can handle crysis at high and maintain a decent fps, wait untill u get later in the game and then u will see. streetridaz

[QUOTE="streetridaz"]

i don't know the first thing about upgrading the cpu and I wouldn't even know what I could successfully put into my motherboard. I don't know how all that stuff works. i mean do I just buy a cpu and plug it in? lol i'm totally clueless there. I would know how to stick a new gfx card in and some ram but it sounds like there really isn't much I can do other then putting in a better cpu huh. Can I overclock at all without adding a new cooling system. I don't even now what i got right now. lol someone else built the rig and I just got it. I know the cpu has a fat fan on it with a big old heatsink lol and then just the gpu stock fan. i don't know if I would need more cooling or something. I mean the system doesn't even get hot other then the hdd. I need a fan for that. lol

jtschmitz

Yes... No voltage increase by the way. But don't think it's just a BIOS button you have to push. On my motherboard, over 2.85 would not even boot. One day, I settled down sad, set it to 2.8, gone to computer properties to check did it apply the OC, and voila. The system was running stably at 3.36. At first I thought it was a bug. Then I got CPU-Z andit also reported this. The trick is to set the motherboard performance boost to EXTREME. To hell, these Intel chips really OC like hell. It adds like 2x times frequency. 280x10+280x2=2800+560=3360. Later I added a little more overclock and achieved an amazing stable 1GHz OC. Gigabyte boards rule.

Slig0

[QUOTE="streetridaz"][QUOTE="Chris_53"]no athlon CPU, even the 6000 can handle crysis at high and maintain a decent fps, wait untill u get later in the game and then u will see. TerroRizing

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"][QUOTE="streetridaz"] Is it really going to get so intense that I'm going to have to go to medium settings or lower my resolution because right now i'm running smooth as can be at all high except shadows medium and game effects low. I don't like all the game effects anyway which works out for me. I'm at 1680x1050 with x2aa. I've gotten into some battles with like 10-15 guys shooting at me and vehicle as well with explosions and stuff with no slow down at all. What's so hard on the system further into the game. I love the way it runs right now.streetridaz

It runs perfect the way it is now with 2aa. I just like the aa so much better then upping the details and playing at 1440 x 900 visually is huge for me. I want to keep the res at highest. it just looks cleaner to me.

LOL, That video card must have all of the records as the fastest 8800gt on Futuremark.;)

That cracks me up.

I didn't mean highest. it's at 1650x1050 all high other then shadows on medium and game effects are at low with 2aa.

That wasn't directed at you at all.

oh. lol sorry it's hard to tell sometimes. I'm already getting the.....your cpu and gpu shouldn't even be able to play at high blah blah. I'm just a noob here. lol i'm telling it like it is because i want help. Consoles are my gaming machines. I haven't gamed on a pc since I had the 1st gen dell xps like 11 years ago. now I got this rig and to me it is a freaking monster. lol I know to you guys it's probably just medium specs but to me the raw horsepower is crazy!

Yes... No voltage increase by the way. But don't think it's just a BIOS button you have to push. On my motherboard, over 2.85 would not even boot. One day, I settled down sad, set it to 2.8, gone to computer properties to check did it apply the OC, and voila. The system was running stably at 3.36. At first I thought it was a bug. Then I got CPU-Z andit also reported this. The trick is to set the motherboard performance boost to EXTREME. To hell, these Intel chips really OC like hell. It adds like 2x times frequency. 280x10+280x2=2800+560=3360. Later I added a little more overclock and achieved an amazing stable 1GHz OC. Gigabyte boards rule.

Slig0

ever I know nothing. I overclocked my old msi nvidia 5600 with msi overclocking software that came with the card. lol so that doesn't really count.

oh. lol sorry it's hard to tell sometimes. I'm already getting the.....your cpu and gpu shouldn't even be able to play at high blah blah. I'm just a noob here. lol i'm telling it like it is because i want help. Consoles are my gaming machines. I haven't gamed on a pc since I had the 1st gen dell xps like 11 years ago. now I got this rig and to me it is a freaking monster. lol I know to you guys it's probably just medium specs but to me the raw horsepower is crazy!

streetridaz

Crysis is tough on any machine. It's not worth upgradeing your machine for just Crysis. I bet almost every other game would run fine on your rig at high settings. I grew up with consoles too but between mods and the mouse and keyboard pc gaming is more fun, imo. Stuff like this and drivers and other tweeks can be a pain but it's worth it, imo.

ever I know nothing. I overclocked my old msi nvidia 5600 with msi overclocking software that came with the card. lol so that doesn't really count.

streetridaz

Download Rivatuner from Guru3d and install it, I'll talk you through it.

oh yeah I can run everyother game on ulta high or highest settings with highest res and aa and it runs like butter. Crysis though damn. lol that freaking game is a beast. Looks so damn sick though! lol

CPU and Video card are both bottlenecks for Crysis at 1680x1050. You should be able to run it fine at "high" settings with no AA/AF. (NOT very high)

So i'm going to play with rivatuner later today and I'm wondering whats the best thing to use to benchmark dx10 and vista 64. I saw those mark03 and mark05 demos or whatever were only dx9 and xp/vista does that make a difference or do you know what I should use to benchmark after oc'ing

try the new nvidia drivers 22% increase in crysis thats like 2fps

Yeah i'm current on the geforce drivers. Thanks for the heads up though.

Ok, TBH, there is no need to upgrade anything. Seen as though your computer can run most games on high, there's no worry. I would wait untill you're playing low/medium on most games and then replace your whole computer. This will mean you get a better PC for your money when you do get it. There's no point upgrading now, as then in 6 months you'll want to upgrade again. As if you want a better GPU, you'll need a better CPU, which will be a different socket type and therefore a different mobo.

Is texture pop in normal? Back when I had my 8600GT 256MB there was a ton of texture pop in now I have a 9800GTX 512MB card and theres still some texture pop in but its more off into the distance. Is 512MB not enough for Crysis. I'm running at 1280x1024 all high no AA (getting good frames 40+ most of the time but texture and objects that pop in are annoying).

Rest of my system.

Q8200 @ 3.1GHz

4GB RAM (OCZ Platinum PC-6400 2x2GB Dual Channel)

9800GTX Overclocked

Two 750GB Caviar Blacks in Raid 0/160GB WD Backupdrive

600 watt Apeiva PSU

Windows 7 Ultimate

GPU is a definite problem, CPU could use some upgrading. NOTE: What's your PSU and budget so we can suggest upgrades if you want to go that route?

EDIT: There not very bad, GPU's still holding fine i'm just saying for better performance you'd need to upgrade.

GPU is a definite problem, CPU could use some upgrading. NOTE: What's your PSU and budget so we can suggest upgrades if you want to go that route?

EDIT: There not very bad, GPU's still holding fine i'm just saying for better performance you'd need to upgrade.

dared3vil0

Are you talking about my comp because I have a quad core. :roll:

Errr... i was responding to the thread...

Is texture pop in normal? Back when I had my 8600GT 256MB there was a ton of texture pop in now I have a 9800GTX 512MB card and theres still some texture pop in but its more off into the distance. Is 512MB not enough for Crysis. I'm running at 1280x1024 all high no AA (getting good frames 40+ most of the time but texture and objects that pop in are annoying).

Rest of my system.

Q8200 @ 3.1GHz

4GB RAM (OCZ Platinum PC-6400 2x2GB Dual Channel)

9800GTX Overclocked

Two 750GB Caviar Blacks in Raid 0/160GB WD Backupdrive

600 watt Apeiva PSU

Windows 7 Ultimate

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