When a screen in "Windows Vista Enabled" What does it mean?

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#1 supergamer1289
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What?
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It also may be that the monitor supports HDCP, either than that what the above poster said is probably true.
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basicly, if you know NOTHING about computers, it would be helpful for the company you're buying the computer part from to say, yes, this will help you fit in. (nothing against vista, but people shouldn't buy stuff just cus its new and cool)
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basicly, if you know NOTHING about computers, it would be helpful for the company you're buying the computer part from to say, yes, this will help you fit in. (nothing against vista, but people shouldn't buy stuff just cus its new and cool)blazethe1
Well if you won't say anything against vista I will grrrr... That screen... Means it works with vista... maybe... my 8800 GTX is "vista ready" that means nothing at all... Drivers for vista are still beta and vista has been out since november... (RTM has and I've had it since then) Retail release was just last month. So Nvidia has 2 months to get a final driver that worked.. They could have done a lot better. Oh and MS could have given them tools to produce drivers too... They made the 360 easy to program for why can't they do the same for Windows? Instead they made it worse and less secure and a lot of other stuff too.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a millions times...
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[QUOTE="blazethe1"]basicly, if you know NOTHING about computers, it would be helpful for the company you're buying the computer part from to say, yes, this will help you fit in. (nothing against vista, but people shouldn't buy stuff just cus its new and cool)KSlater85
Well if you won't say anything against vista I will grrrr... That screen... Means it works with vista... maybe... my 8800 GTX is "vista ready" that means nothing at all... Drivers for vista are still beta and vista has been out since november... (RTM has and I've had it since then) Retail release was just last month. So Nvidia has 2 months to get a final driver that worked.. They could have done a lot better. Oh and MS could have given them tools to produce drivers too... They made the 360 easy to program for why can't they do the same for Windows? Instead they made it worse and less secure and a lot of other stuff too.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a millions times...

So why use Vista? Maybe you weren't around during the XP/2000 launch era, but this type of stuff happens every time. It takes some time to stabilize an OS. There is not a forum on the planet that hasn't discussed the perils of jumping on the new OS. NOBODY predicted that everything would work perfect at the launch of Vista.

Do you think Nvidia and MS have all of this as a second priority? Do you have any idea how complex these things are? An XBOX 360 has to run XBOX360 software using the same hardware found in every XBOX360. Software for a PC needs to be compatible with a million different types of hardware and software combinations. 

How could Nvidia have done a lot better? You obviously have vast knowledge of driver programming and the steps it takes to release one to the masses. Nvidia has been making drivers for years right? They could have banged this one out in a couple of days. A driver is a driver is a driver. You could have called MS and told them, "hey, Nvidia needs those programming tools in case you guys forgot."

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Funny i know someone who is having issues with his monitor and Vista :lol:
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[QUOTE="KSlater85"][QUOTE="blazethe1"]basicly, if you know NOTHING about computers, it would be helpful for the company you're buying the computer part from to say, yes, this will help you fit in. (nothing against vista, but people shouldn't buy stuff just cus its new and cool)djspl

Well if you won't say anything against vista I will grrrr... That screen... Means it works with vista... maybe... my 8800 GTX is "vista ready" that means nothing at all... Drivers for vista are still beta and vista has been out since november... (RTM has and I've had it since then) Retail release was just last month. So Nvidia has 2 months to get a final driver that worked.. They could have done a lot better. Oh and MS could have given them tools to produce drivers too... They made the 360 easy to program for why can't they do the same for Windows? Instead they made it worse and less secure and a lot of other stuff too.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a millions times...

So why use Vista? Maybe you weren't around during the XP/2000 launch era, but this type of stuff happens every time. It takes some time to stabilize an OS. There is not a forum on the planet that hasn't discussed the perils of jumping on the new OS. NOBODY predicted that everything would work perfect at the launch of Vista.

Do you think Nvidia and MS have all of this as a second priority? Do you have any idea how complex these things are? An XBOX 360 has to run XBOX360 software using the same hardware found in every XBOX360. Software for a PC needs to be compatible with a million different types of hardware and software combinations. 

How could Nvidia have done a lot better? You obviously have vast knowledge of driver programming and the steps it takes to release one to the masses. Nvidia has been making drivers for years right? They could have banged this one out in a couple of days. A driver is a driver is a driver. You could have called MS and told them, "hey, Nvidia needs those programming tools in case you guys forgot."

XP launch was pretty much problem free... RC2 worked perfectly for me. No problems whatsoever. Oh and it did not have anything that annoyed me other then activation... Vista Beta was less functional the Whistler was. Actually the problem might still have something to do with x64 though MS and Nvidia have now had a lot longer then 2 months to realize that x64 is alive and well...

Yes I do know how complex this is. Nvidia had 2 months to work on a driver and they did that bang it out in three days sort of thing. I was not impressed. And phoning MS? that's BS unless you know someone there in the right department (which I don't) I know people who work there but not any programers. As for calling nvidia enough people did that to no results.

I'm sorry I will not say anything good about Vista until I see some working (I mean stable) D3D drivers. Oh and some Direct Sound too...

I think that a new OS... And a new game with that logo (FS X) should just work. No fiddling with drivers and such. I am sorry but that just did not make me happy enough... There is a lot that needs fixing yet... And the problems are not due to instability in an overclock because they all happened when my system was running @ stock speeds.

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Vista enabled is a gimmick that some company's use to make their products look higher quality. Enabled means that this product can run the Windows Operating System which isn't saying much because the requirements for Vista are not that high.roulettethedog
what the hell are you talking about? it means this product is compatible with Vista. Lots of softwares are not compatible with vista and its nice if manufacturers tell whether it will work or not. This has nothing to do with hardware req.
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[QUOTE="roulettethedog"]Vista enabled is a gimmick that some company's use to make their products look higher quality. Enabled means that this product can run the Windows Operating System which isn't saying much because the requirements for Vista are not that high.TheDarthvader
what the hell are you talking about? it means this product is compatible with Vista. Lots of softwares are not compatible with vista and its nice if manufacturers tell whether it will work or not. This has nothing to do with hardware req.

Well look at the 8800 GTX it has that logo... And there is a class action lawsuit going on now... Because it does not work as it should in vista.
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Vista enabled is a gimmick that some company's use to make their products look higher quality. Enabled means that this product can run the Windows Operating System which isn't saying much because the requirements for Vista are not that high.roulettethedog


Oh that's the "screen" he's talking about..
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DirectSound is gone in Vista. Microsoft basically did it so as not to keep 'blessing' Creative's EAX for as many years as it has. Problem is, they had absolutely nothing that could effectively replace it, so they went with OpenAL. Some of the newest computer games support OpenAL, and according to its list, both generations of Xbox support the codec... along with just about every (modern) Linux distro on the planet earth. Funny, though... Out of the box, Vista has zero OpenGL support whatsoever... but they choose to embrace OpenAL. Probably only long enough until they can code some work-alike and snuff out OpenAL as they're trying to do for OpenGL. :evil:
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I never thought of it that way.. but Creative supports Open AL anyway... Wonder what the point was... I guess it is a snub trying to push Creative down for competing so well against the Zune :D... Just make a good product and stop working so hard to make better products not work so your junk looks okay.... :D
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#15 codezer0
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Creative supports OpenAL, only on their X-Fi cards, and for years, would only license EAX support up to version 2.0 of their spec for non-Creative sound cards. This grew to be a real problem as Creative was up to version 5 or 6 (with EAX Advanced HD or whatever they decided to call it). Creative has managed to make a separate software program that can turn EAX and DirectSound function calls into OpenAL code, but this will - of course - only apply if you have an X-Fi card. You're SOL if you have anything before it... just like with all of ATi's promised OpenGL performance improvements, only for the driver updates that brought them about to only apply for the X1k series cards, leaving those of us with 9*00's and X**0's SOL.
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Guess it's a good thing I have an X-Fi....
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#17 codezer0
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Given the issue though, this may be one time where having that X-RAM may actually be a good idea... say, to program the driver to have its working space for working on all that code on the X-RAM so that all the audio data can be processed by the card as opposed to having be worried about by your processor.
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Oh.. So now I have to get another X-Fi... as this is one of the models without X-Ram... I guess it's a good thing I was thinking of getting one for my other PC anyway... :D
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Not saying you have to... but I think it would greatly improve performance if the programmers made that possible, and give X-RAM a very valid selling point for older games that will invariably still use EAX or DirectSound of some kind on Vista.
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Not saying you have to... but I think it would greatly improve performance if the programmers made that possible, and give X-RAM a very valid selling point for older games that will invariably still use EAX or DirectSound of some kind on Vista.codezer0
Hmm.... I want one anyways though.... I want something better then what I have.. :D