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#1 Wakanoid
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After watching all the WoW cinematics again since I was bored, including the Cataclysm one just released, I find that's how games will actually one day look.

How long do you think till games look like that? I cannot wait to have games with graphics that amazing, it just pulls me into it that much more.

How long do you give it? I'd say 10-13 years.

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#2 RyuRanVII
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The graphics are amazing as of today. I'm wondering when we'll get the gameplay as fun, challenging, deep and original as of yore. ;)

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#3 ventnor
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We would be close to those if it wasn't for consoles.

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#4 superfluidity
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I honestly don't care at all. Most of the games I have really enjoyed do not have notable graphics. I'm waiting for more creativity and a bit of depth, personally.

That said, there is definitely a point where the quality of graphics affects the experience. Nearly all modern games surpass that threshhold by a wide margin for me.

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I dont care , nor i ever cared about graphics . Devs need to think about gameplay/story/characters before graphics , imho . Ofc what does pesant like me know .

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#6 FatSlasH
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When we get a game like Crysis, people whine it's too demanding. Devs don't want to take that chance anymore because there's much more money to be made in CoD games running on the same engine...

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#7 SPBoss
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We would be close to those if it wasn't for consoles.

ventnor
This also I think its more along the lines of 5years not 10
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#8 Inconsistancy
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I say, 8 years.
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#9 FelipeInside
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After watching all the WoW cinematics again since I was bored, including the Cataclysm one just released, I find that's how games will actually one day look.

How long do you think till games look like that? I cannot wait to have games with graphics that amazing, it just pulls me into it that much more.

How long do you give it? I'd say 10-13 years.

Wakanoid
Graphics are amazing already....
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#10 masterdrat
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After watching all the WoW cinematics again since I was bored, including the Cataclysm one just released, I find that's how games will actually one day look.

How long do you think till games look like that? I cannot wait to have games with graphics that amazing, it just pulls me into it that much more.

How long do you give it? I'd say 10-13 years.

Wakanoid
I didn't see anything "amazing" in that trailer. I mean compared to lotr or avatar movie and blizzard has the money to be on par. Did they make a 3D version?
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#11 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Wakanoid"]

After watching all the WoW cinematics again since I was bored, including the Cataclysm one just released, I find that's how games will actually one day look.

How long do you think till games look like that? I cannot wait to have games with graphics that amazing, it just pulls me into it that much more.

How long do you give it? I'd say 10-13 years.

masterdrat
I didn't see anything "amazing" in that trailer. I mean compared to lotr or avatar movie and blizzard has the money to be on par. Did they make a 3D version?

Blizz make amazing CGI Trailers, I think that is what he meant. I loved the trailer, but to me the WOTLK trailer was better...
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#12 gmaster456
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I honestly don't care at all. Most of the games I have really enjoyed do not have notable graphics. I'm waiting for more creativity and a bit of depth, personally.

That said, there is definitely a point where the quality of graphics affects the experience. Nearly all modern games surpass that threshhold by a wide margin for me.

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#13 Wakanoid
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Okay, to some people when I made the post I didn't ask if you cared or not. I asked how long you think it would be until graphics are on that level. If you don't care about the topic at all, I don't really know the point of checking into this topic. Yes, graphics are good as they are right now but there is always room for improvement. But there are games which will have for example, perfect character models and water and all that. But when you get into a city, the buildings are just ugly. But even though, when will we have graphics on cinematic level? I really don't think you can say we already have them on cinematic level as it is.
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#14 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="superfluidity"]

I honestly don't care at all. Most of the games I have really enjoyed do not have notable graphics. I'm waiting for more creativity and a bit of depth, personally.

That said, there is definitely a point where the quality of graphics affects the experience. Nearly all modern games surpass that threshhold by a wide margin for me.

gmaster456
+1

Personally I believe Gaming in the past 3 years has gotten more creative than EVER BEFORE.... I don't know what you mean by "depth"....
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#15 gmaster456
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[QUOTE="gmaster456"][QUOTE="superfluidity"]

I honestly don't care at all. Most of the games I have really enjoyed do not have notable graphics. I'm waiting for more creativity and a bit of depth, personally.

That said, there is definitely a point where the quality of graphics affects the experience. Nearly all modern games surpass that threshhold by a wide margin for me.

FelipeInside
+1

Personally I believe Gaming in the past 3 years has gotten more creative than EVER BEFORE.... I don't know what you mean by "depth"....

Take crysis for example. The graphics were kickass the story was meh and didn't really bring anything new to First Person Shooters as far as game play imo.
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I think the graphics nowadays are incredible considering I've been playing since the early 90ties and seen how the games have evolved over time.
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#17 superfluidity
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Personally I believe Gaming in the past 3 years has gotten more creative than EVER BEFORE.... I don't know what you mean by "depth"....FelipeInside

I completely disagree. In the past 3 years we have seen almost nothing but rehashes of not only the same genres (which is forgivable), but to an extreme degree, themes and settings as well.

For example, the number of modern military shooters on the market is just rediculous. Why on Earth is this? I don't want to play even one more, I'm completely sick of it. Why aren't there new shooters with unique gameplay like Tribes when it was released? Look at the evolution of The Elder Scrolls, from Morrowind; loaded with incredible amounts of unique dialogue, items and hand made temples and caves, arguably the most intricate main storyline of any game, and a totally uniquely styled world, to Oblivion; a formulaic medieval world with a short main story and a very small selection of items and creatures that cap out quickly.

These are just a couple of examples, but I can think of many more. There have been anomalies, but this is the general trend I have observed.

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[QUOTE="Wakanoid"]Okay, to some people when I made the post I didn't ask if you cared or not. I asked how long you think it would be until graphics are on that level. If you don't care about the topic at all, I don't really know the point of checking into this topic. Yes, graphics are good as they are right now but there is always room for improvement. But there are games which will have for example, perfect character models and water and all that. But when you get into a city, the buildings are just ugly. But even though, when will we have graphics on cinematic level? I really don't think you can say we already have them on cinematic level as it is.

well never because as they improve at the same speed.
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[QUOTE="masterdrat"][QUOTE="Wakanoid"]Okay, to some people when I made the post I didn't ask if you cared or not. I asked how long you think it would be until graphics are on that level. If you don't care about the topic at all, I don't really know the point of checking into this topic. Yes, graphics are good as they are right now but there is always room for improvement. But there are games which will have for example, perfect character models and water and all that. But when you get into a city, the buildings are just ugly. But even though, when will we have graphics on cinematic level? I really don't think you can say we already have them on cinematic level as it is.

well never because as they improve at the same speed.

*sigh* I mean at the cinematic level we're at right now. I mean the trailers for WoW were absolutely breath-taking and looked so life-like. And I hear there's even better. But I really think there almost at the max for realism with cinematics, I mean there just about there.
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#20 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Personally I believe Gaming in the past 3 years has gotten more creative than EVER BEFORE.... I don't know what you mean by "depth"....superfluidity

I completely disagree. In the past 3 years we have seen almost nothing but rehashes of not only the same genres (which is forgivable), but to an extreme degree, themes and settings as well.

For example, the number of modern military shooters on the market is just rediculous. Why on Earth is this? I don't want to play even one more, I'm completely sick of it. Why aren't there new shooters with unique gameplay like Tribes when it was released? Look at the evolution of The Elder Scrolls, from Morrowind; loaded with incredible amounts of unique dialogue, items and hand made temples and caves, arguably the most intricate main storyline of any game, and a totally uniquely styled world, to Oblivion; a formulaic medieval world with a short main story and a very small selection of items and creatures that cap out quickly.

These are just a couple of examples, but I can think of many more. There have been anomalies, but this is the general trend I have observed.

You are looking at the big budget titles... But what about other smaller titles, like indie games. - World of Goo - Plants vs Zombies - Little Big Planet - Kirby's Epic Yarn - Twine The list goes on... games that use graphics as the gameplay, or gravity as the main protagonist.... Yes, shooters have been mainstream and mostly alike....but the gaming world isn't all about shooters....
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Personally I believe Gaming in the past 3 years has gotten more creative than EVER BEFORE.... I don't know what you mean by "depth"....superfluidity

I completely disagree. In the past 3 years we have seen almost nothing but rehashes of not only the same genres (which is forgivable), but to an extreme degree, themes and settings as well.

For example, the number of modern military shooters on the market is just rediculous. Why on Earth is this? I don't want to play even one more, I'm completely sick of it. Why aren't there new shooters with unique gameplay like Tribes when it was released? Look at the evolution of The Elder Scrolls, from Morrowind; loaded with incredible amounts of unique dialogue, items and hand made temples and caves, arguably the most intricate main storyline of any game, and a totally uniquely styled world, to Oblivion; a formulaic medieval world with a short main story and a very small selection of items and creatures that cap out quickly.

These are just a couple of examples, but I can think of many more. There have been anomalies, but this is the general trend I have observed.

The Witcher.....

Also Amnesia and many other games I cannot think of at the moment.

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Not next generation, but maybe the one after that. MAYBE. It would require big budgets! Developing a big budget game today is already expensive as heck!
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around 5 years i would say.
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#24 Ravenchrome
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Not next generation, but maybe the one after that. MAYBE. It would require big budgets! Developing a big budget game today is already expensive as heck!Elann2008
That level of tech might be expensive today, but it'll be cheap 10 years later.

Cheap enough to make a game engine out of it.

Also, Blizzard CG graphics/tech is more life-like than Blur.

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#25 rmfd341
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8-9 years.
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#26 demonic_85
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We would be close to those if it wasn't for consoles.

ventnor

I agree, graphics have not improved much in the last 5 years in most games.

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#27 edinsftw
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7 years going by calculations at the rate at which graphics improve, not guessing

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#28 jpph
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hopefully 5 years. crysis 2 looks amazing. it looked like a cgi cinematic in the gameplay videos. obviously it won't look as good when one plays it, but i have faith in crysis 3 to look like a cinematic.

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#29 Ravenchrome
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hopefully 5 years. crysis 2 looks amazing. it looked like a cgi cinematic in the gameplay videos. obviously it won't look as good when one plays it, but i have faith in crysis 3 to look like a cinematic.

jpph

Low-budget CGI actually, but even Crysis 2 can't touch Wc3 cinematic from 2002 and FF XII CG from 2006.

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#30 mrbojangles25
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The graphics are amazing as of today. I'm wondering when we'll get the gameplay as fun, challenging, deep and original as of yore. ;)

RyuRanVII

indeed, if visuals took a break and stopped improving, and gameplay improved, I'd be fine with that.

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[QUOTE="masterdrat"][QUOTE="Wakanoid"]Okay, to some people when I made the post I didn't ask if you cared or not. I asked how long you think it would be until graphics are on that level. If you don't care about the topic at all, I don't really know the point of checking into this topic. Yes, graphics are good as they are right now but there is always room for improvement. But there are games which will have for example, perfect character models and water and all that. But when you get into a city, the buildings are just ugly. But even though, when will we have graphics on cinematic level? I really don't think you can say we already have them on cinematic level as it is.Wakanoid
well never because as they improve at the same speed.

*sigh* I mean at the cinematic level we're at right now. I mean the trailers for WoW were absolutely breath-taking and looked so life-like. And I hear there's even better. But I really think there almost at the max for realism with cinematics, I mean there just about there.

Well, graphics of today look better than cinematics of 10 years ago, so I'd say a little less than 10 years and we'll see everyday graphics look like cinematics like we see today.

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[QUOTE="Wakanoid"][QUOTE="masterdrat"] well never because as they improve at the same speed.NailedGR

*sigh* I mean at the cinematic level we're at right now. I mean the trailers for WoW were absolutely breath-taking and looked so life-like. And I hear there's even better. But I really think there almost at the max for realism with cinematics, I mean there just about there.

Well, graphics of today look better than cinematics of 10 years ago, so I'd say a little less than 10 years and we'll see everyday graphics look like cinematics like we see today.

I think graphics will get to CGI trailer quality eventually.... the animation though will be another matter....
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Graphics haven't advanced any in the past 4 years. Not in any meaningful way to gamers, anyway. Consoles are just now getting to the point where PC games were 5 years ago. PC games are progressively looking worse; going backwards caused by multiplatform development.

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#34 FelipeInside
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Graphics haven't advanced any in the past 4 years. Not in any meaningful way to gamers, anyway. Consoles are just now getting to the point where PC games were 5 years ago. PC games are progressively looking worse; going backwards caused by multiplatform development.

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I've noticed a lot of advancement in PC graphics in the past 4 years. Play a FPS/RPG from 4 years back and then play Crysis, Metro 2033, The Witcher on HIGH and see the difference...
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Qixote"]

Graphics haven't advanced any in the past 4 years. Not in any meaningful way to gamers, anyway. Consoles are just now getting to the point where PC games were 5 years ago. PC games are progressively looking worse; going backwards caused by multiplatform development.

I've noticed a lot of advancement in PC graphics in the past 4 years. Play a FPS/RPG from 4 years back and then play Crysis, Metro 2033, The Witcher on HIGH and see the difference...

those games are 2 years old themselves, except metro which I think is less than 1 year.
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#36 AutoPilotOn
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actually crysis came out almost exactly 3 years ago.
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#37 FelipeInside
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actually crysis came out almost exactly 3 years ago.AutoPilotOn
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#38 PernicioEnigma
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The thing that's really holding us back are those little imperfections that are hard to avoid in real time.
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#39 DieselCat18
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The graphics are amazing as of today. I'm wondering when we'll get the gameplay as fun, challenging, deep and original as of yore. ;)

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You are absolutely correct Sir !

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#40 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Since 2005ish I honestly can't tell if something looks better or worse unless its a drastic difference like WoG to Metro. People get too hung up on polycounts when what we have today is absolutely amazing. Those WoW cinematics will never be a reality mainly because of all the choreography that isn't possible in a game and it just isn't feasible to spend that much money for details most don't care about.

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#41 Ravenchrome
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What?

Graphics today is better than CG of 10 years ago? Probably.

But Warcraft 3 CG/ FFX CG which is about 8-9 years still looks better than even the latest games.