Wheres the outrage that BF3 isn't a PC exclusive!!

[QUOTE="ventnor"]

Uhh read up on the news, I made a thread abit back, they're developing the new engine for Dx11 and 64 bit, that means it's developed for PC, then ported to consoles.

darknessdashinf

Seeing as Battlefield 3 is a DX11 ONLY game for PC...I'm not worried about anything being stripped or dumbed-down.

Seeing as Battlefield 3 is a DX11 ONLY game for PC...I'm not worried about anything being stripped or dumbed-down.

ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Seeing as Battlefield 3 is a DX11 ONLY game for PC...I'm not worried about anything being stripped or dumbed-down.

Captain__Tripps

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Seeing as Battlefield 3 is a DX11 ONLY game for PC...I'm not worried about anything being stripped or dumbed-down.

Iantheone

To me its not about the GFX its about the features

64 players, squad leaders and commanders, tons of vehicles such as jets, mod tools map editors etc

BC2 has great GFX but had none of these features, if Bf3 doesnt have this it can be labelled as a console port and we can cry out in agony.

I'm mad. I hope at least they make the PC version first and THEN strip it down for a console port - the way they should make all games.

1q3er5

I agree.

Since BF3 isn't using DirectX9 and uses DirectX11 instead there should be some differences in graphics, lets hope the game is like BF2.

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

[QUOTE="NanoMan88"]

Sure they do, if thats the case your PC library is pretty old.

morrowindnic

I don't think games from 2010 count as "old"

Simply, all the PS3 exclusive games I have look much better than all my PC at maxed out settings. Excluding Crysis since only supercomputers can run that one.

I can compare the two platforms visually because I have played extensively on both. I am assuming you only play games on PC since you are so quick to say, "Console Graphics Suck!"

Console graphics are horendous compared to PC.

There is no AA and AF to be found. + they are limited to dx9 and atmost 1080p.

You must be blind to think that consoles look anywhere near as good.

Just because I have bad eyesight doesn't mean much. True most PS3 games only support 720p, with all the PC games I pay are in 1080p.

The two games I have for PS3 that do support 1080p are the most detailed games I have ever played. I still believe that the only games that look better than PS3 exclusives are the Crysis games for PC.

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

I don't think games from 2010 count as "old"

Simply, all the PS3 exclusive games I have look much better than all my PC at maxed out settings. Excluding Crysis since only supercomputers can run that one.

I can compare the two platforms visually because I have played extensively on both. I am assuming you only play games on PC since you are so quick to say, "Console Graphics Suck!"

snover2009

Console graphics are horendous compared to PC.

There is no AA and AF to be found. + they are limited to dx9 and atmost 1080p.

You must be blind to think that consoles look anywhere near as good.

Just because I have bad eyesight doesn't mean much. True most PS3 games only support 720p, with all the PC games I pay are in 1080p.

The two games I have for PS3 that do support 1080p are the most detailed games I have ever played. I still believe that the only games that look better than PS3 exclusives are the Crysis games for PC.

Well then you obviously haven't played many PC games. It's not just about resolution. You CANNOT DENY consoles are a limiting factor. I have a PS3, to me the graphics look ancient to more than just crysis. Consoles limit map sizes, graphics, mods ect. This is a FACT.

Development style is crucial. Games like Far Cry 2 have their PC version done first, so all the heavy lifting creating assets are pretty much ready to go with the PC being a much faster potential platform. The assets can be reduced to work in a more manageable manner for the consoles from there. PC platform gives the console versions a target too all while giving developers plenty of room to work ( RAM that is ) and develop a proper engine that they can scale down to deliver good performance on consoles. Basically the PC is a super awesome workbench.

DX10/11 only for BF3 isn't a bad thing. DX9 is legacy really. As advantageous as it is to run with no DX9 compatibility, DX10/11 games can look and run so much better than they would having to cope with 3 different APIs. Also Vista and Win7 are so much better at making use of multi-core CPUs, which should be to the advantage of the games too. Just Cause 2 is a DX10 only title, and so far, from what I can tell, it's been an extremely successful PC game. People like it, almost anyone who would want it on the PC already has a Vista or Win7 based system.

Guess I missed the DX10 and 11 part. My bad :P Hopefully I'll have a DX11 card by the time it comes out anyway.

Seeing as Battlefield 3 is a DX11 ONLY game for PC...I'm not worried about anything being stripped or dumbed-down.

ChubbyGuy40

It's not DX11 only, it's DX10/11 but developed for DX11

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

Console graphics are horendous compared to PC.

There is no AA and AF to be found. + they are limited to dx9 and atmost 1080p.

You must be blind to think that consoles look anywhere near as good.

1q3er5

Just because I have bad eyesight doesn't mean much. True most PS3 games only support 720p, with all the PC games I pay are in 1080p.

The two games I have for PS3 that do support 1080p are the most detailed games I have ever played. I still believe that the only games that look better than PS3 exclusives are the Crysis games for PC.

Well then you obviously haven't played many PC games. It's not just about resolution. You CANNOT DENY consoles are a limiting factor. I have a PS3, to me the graphics look ancient to more than just crysis. Consoles limit map sizes, graphics, mods ect. This is a FACT.

Oh really, 15 games in 6 months times doesn't count as plaing many games.

I play a s**t-load of games. About 1/3 of all the games I play are for PC.

So did you even play the best games on PS3? Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 Rachet and Clank Future?

Also, the way that you talk about how consoles are inferior to computers, why do you even own a PS3?

I'm mad. I hope at least they make the PC version first and THEN strip it down for a console port - the way they should make all games.

1q3er5

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I'm mad. I hope at least they make the PC version first and THEN strip it down for a console port - the way they should make all games.

1q3er5

So PC gamers will have game content that Console gamers won't? Is that the point your trying to make?

Whatever appears in the PC version of a multiplatform game should also appear in all other versions.

][QUOTE="1q3er5"]

I'm mad. I hope at least they make the PC version first and THEN strip it down for a console port - the way they should make all games.

snover2009

So PC gamers will have game content that Console gamers won't? Is that the point your trying to make?

Whatever appears in the PC version of a multiplatform game should also appear in all other versions.

][QUOTE="1q3er5"]

I'm mad. I hope at least they make the PC version first and THEN strip it down for a console port - the way they should make all games.

So PC gamers will have game content that Console gamers won't? Is that the point your trying to make?

Whatever appears in the PC version of a multiplatform game should also appear in all other versions.

Don't really care for this game.

[QUOTE="1q3er5"]

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

Just because I have bad eyesight doesn't mean much. True most PS3 games only support 720p, with all the PC games I pay are in 1080p.

The two games I have for PS3 that do support 1080p are the most detailed games I have ever played. I still believe that the only games that look better than PS3 exclusives are the Crysis games for PC.

Well then you obviously haven't played many PC games. It's not just about resolution. You CANNOT DENY consoles are a limiting factor. I have a PS3, to me the graphics look ancient to more than just crysis. Consoles limit map sizes, graphics, mods ect. This is a FACT.

Oh really, 15 games in 6 months times doesn't count as plaing many games.

I play a s**t-load of games. About 1/3 of all the games I play are for PC.

So did you even play the best games on PS3? Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 Rachet and Clank Future?

Also, the way that you talk about how consoles are inferior to computers, why do you even own a PS3?

Development style is crucial. Games like Far Cry 2 have their PC version done first, so all the heavy lifting creating assets are pretty much ready to go with the PC being a much faster potential platform. The assets can be reduced to work in a more manageable manner for the consoles from there. PC platform gives the console versions a target too all while giving developers plenty of room to work ( RAM that is ) and develop a proper engine that they can scale down to deliver good performance on consoles. Basically the PC is a super awesome workbench.

DX10/11 only for BF3 isn't a bad thing. DX9 is legacy really. As advantageous as it is to run with no DX9 compatibility, DX10/11 games can look and run so much better than they would having to cope with 3 different APIs. Also Vista and Win7 are so much better at making use of multi-core CPUs, which should be to the advantage of the games too. Just Cause 2 is a DX10 only title, and so far, from what I can tell, it's been an extremely successful PC game. People like it, almost anyone who would want it on the PC already has a Vista or Win7 based system.

mouthforbathory

[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="snover2009"]

So PC gamers will have game content that Console gamers won't? Is that the point your trying to make?

Whatever appears in the PC version of a multiplatform game should also appear in all other versions.

1q3er5

Well I think that is discriminating against people who dont play on PCs.

[QUOTE="1q3er5"][QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] Not really since PC is capable of more than what is possible on console... snover2009

Well I think that is discriminating against people who dont play on PCs.

[QUOTE="1q3er5"][QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] Not really since PC is capable of more than what is possible on console... snover2009

Well I think that is discriminating against people who dont play on PCs.

[QUOTE="snover2009"]

[QUOTE="1q3er5"] Exactly.Cdscottie

Well I think that is discriminating against people who dont play on PCs.

That is not what I am saying.

I am saying if a game is available on mutiple systems, that it should have the same content.

I was not talking at all about exclusive games, those are a reason to buy a certain system over another.

But when a game is available on the PC and HD consols, it should be the same.

[QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="snover2009"]

Well I think that is discriminating against people who dont play on PCs.

snover2009

That is not what I am saying.

I am saying if a game is available on mutiple systems, that it should have the same content.

I was not talking at all about exclusive games, those are a reason to buy a certain system over another.

But when a game is available on the PC and HD consols, it should be the same.

Please go back to system wars really just because your consoles can't handle the graphics of the pc doesn't mean we should have to put up with your low resolution blurry texture and jaggies everywhere.

Didn't even know there was a Battlefield 3 coming , but they probably want more money and also to compete with Call of Duty. I just hope they develop it for PC like have DX11 and then strip it to a console port.

Please go back to system wars really just because your consoles can't handle the graphics of the pc doesn't mean we should have to put up with your low resolution blurry texture and jaggies everywhere.

Empirefrtw

Har har har, very funny.

The games I played on PS3 (PS exlusive games only) are more visually advanced that anything I played on the PC, except Crysis and Metro 2033, those games are the only ones I cannot max out on my PC.

As far as Battlefield 3 goes, I never really played a game like it. I'm not a fan of competitive multiplayer. Getting kill within the first 5 seconds of the match tends to make me sad. If it is anything like Battlefield 3, I guess it would be good.