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#51 Dr_Brocoli
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[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"]Vavle has BETTERRR support than blizz by FAARRR!!! They give out amazing amounts of free content to customers, Blizz is charging for everything. SC2 in 3 parts, maybe a monthly fee for Bnet... etc.dnuggs40
There is no monthly fee for b.net, but they are discussing monetizing some features. Also, last time I checked Half Life 2's full story isn't included in one game...how's EPISODE 3 coming along? lol...

Lol... ever notice how you dont pay FULL RETAIL for an episode? *cough* blizz expansions and SC2*cough* and you get more content than expected? See Orange or Black Box.
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#52 Nerkcon
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[QUOTE="RK-Mara"]Even Blizzard isn't perfect. Selling expansion packs for an MMO with 10 million subscribers is just wrong. The money they make every month should be enough to release all of that and more as free updates. Agent_Kaliaver
So any popular MMO is wrong because look at the amount of expansions for Everquest. I don't see anything wrong with paying for expansions to MMOs, but i will not pay $15 a month for a whole year unless they make World of Starcraft. But honestly i would rather pay nothing a month and buy 2 expansions a year (it would be like $100 bucks cheaper. $15 for a year is $185 and normally expansions arn't even $50. Even 3 expansions a year would be better priced, but i would do it if they released expansion so quickly because instead of patching it would just be in the expansion...

But that would make things over complicated. Every year the price to get into the game just to start up will get higher and higher and my the games third year there would be 6 expansions. Maybe a $50-$120 yearly fee instead of a monthly fee? I think that could work if you could get enough more people to make up for it. And I don't care how long it was going on, charging for any new content you are paying monthly for is milkage. :| But the price isn't why I don't like WoW, it's just not my MMO. I want to play classic Ultima Online. :( A also agree with L4D being a rip off, $50 for a professional mod is stupid. It's worth $40 at the most. It seems like all the new games from them are just mods, I think its time for Valve to make a new engine.
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#53 naval
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[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Valve > Blizzard in the support development. Blizzard keeps patching their games, sure, but Valve brings in the free content updates. Valve wins.Myrkan

Blizzard releases free content as well. Although it really only appeals to a very specific group of people that play the game, I'm one of them, but everyone can get into the new TF2 content easily, so I'd have to agree there.

yes , afair they released a kind of single player campaign for Warcraft 3 ,
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#54 naval
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"]Vavle has BETTERRR support than blizz by FAARRR!!! They give out amazing amounts of free content to customers, Blizz is charging for everything. SC2 in 3 parts, maybe a monthly fee for Bnet... etc.Dr_Brocoli
There is no monthly fee for b.net, but they are discussing monetizing some features. Also, last time I checked Half Life 2's full story isn't included in one game...how's EPISODE 3 coming along? lol...

Lol... ever notice how you dont pay FULL RETAIL for an episode? *cough* blizz expansions and SC2*cough* and you get more content than expected? See Orange or Black Box.

Please those episodes are barely 5-7 hrs longs
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#55 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"]Vavle has BETTERRR support than blizz by FAARRR!!! They give out amazing amounts of free content to customers, Blizz is charging for everything. SC2 in 3 parts, maybe a monthly fee for Bnet... etc.Dr_Brocoli
There is no monthly fee for b.net, but they are discussing monetizing some features. Also, last time I checked Half Life 2's full story isn't included in one game...how's EPISODE 3 coming along? lol...

Lol... ever notice how you dont pay FULL RETAIL for an episode? *cough* blizz expansions and SC2*cough* and you get more content than expected? See Orange or Black Box.

Right, you pay $20 for a 4-5 hour episode. Blizzard, on the other hand, is offering 3 FULL campaigns each with 20-30 missions for full price. Both are providing good value ;)
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#56 smfes
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Please guys plwease support Relic/THQ who makes CohH/DoW series we don't wanna loose these talents
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[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]Valve > Blizzard in the support development. Blizzard keeps patching their games, sure, but Valve brings in the free content updates. Valve wins.Myrkan

Blizzard releases free content as well. Although it really only appeals to a very specific group of people that play the game, I'm one of them, but everyone can get into the new TF2 content easily, so I'd have to agree there.

But then you're not going to want the new content if you don't play TF2. It's the same thing there.
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#58 _Pedro_
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Massive Entertainment does. At least 5 new maps for WiC had come out as long as tons of balancing patches and some preformace patches, despite the lacking community.

Such a shame.

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is the community really that lacking for WIC? I was thinking of getting into this game.
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[QUOTE="bdever32"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"] There is no monthly fee for b.net, but they are discussing monetizing some features. Also, last time I checked Half Life 2's full story isn't included in one game...how's EPISODE 3 coming along? lol...dnuggs40
HL2's full story is in the game. Have you ever heard of a sequel? I guess Starcraft's full story wasn't in the game because they are making Starcraft 2? Plus they aren't charging $50 for each episode so I don't see what you're going on about here. The episodes together are basically HL3 as said by Valve before. They are just releasing it in a different manner.

The fact is, HL2 is separated out into episodes, and Starcraft 2 will also see mutliple releases. Also, Blizzard said each "episode" will be full fledged campaigns with 20-30 missions, not 4 hour affairs (like HL2 episodes), which is why the price is higher. Personally I think what Valve offered is well worth the money, and based on Blizzards past games, Starcraft will also be worth the money. The point is, if you are going to criticize one company for splitting a game into pieces (or episodes), then the same criticism needs to be places on the other company.

yes but you see blizzard neglects there games man thats another fine reason they cant win. would u like to know the last time diablo1 got a patch ill tell you 1999! its been beaten and exploited so bad it hurts its a hackers chat room now and diablo 2 is quickly falling its predecessors footsteps, and blizzard hasnt dont a god damn thing about it. warcraft 2 hasnt changed either wheres the love for that hmm? bah there no better than microsoft game studio or rare post n64.

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[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="Erlkoenig"] You're forgetting the 3 heroes Blizzard added over the past couple years. L4D? Don't make me laugh. The game was very lacking in content for its price at release. People besides the fanboys would raise hell if Valve charged $ for this coming update. So no, Valve does not > Blizzard. Both are good at supporting their games, but Blizzard's got quite a few frequent haters around here. weirjf

I didn't find L4D lacking in content at all. Try Orange Box. Try TF2. TF2 is still getting content updates. 3 heroes? Woopty doo.

TF2 is still getting content releases... content that should have been incuded ON RELEASE DAY, not YEARS after release at their current rate. I still remember the pod cast interview before release stating that there would be no grenades except demoman and pyro (and pyro apparently got ganked) but they would have weapon unlocks to make up for it. So essentially these aren't content releases, they are just taking forever to fix their game by fixing one class every 8-9 months and breaking other stuff as a result.

You're arguments are so laughable that I'm confident Valve definitely one-ups Blizzard in this department. Have fun paying for The Lich King - all that content should have been in the original game in the first place. ;)
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#61 crazymaghie123
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[QUOTE="weirjf"]

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"] I didn't find L4D lacking in content at all. Try Orange Box. Try TF2. TF2 is still getting content updates. 3 heroes? Woopty doo.GodLovesDead

TF2 is still getting content releases... content that should have been incuded ON RELEASE DAY, not YEARS after release at their current rate. I still remember the pod cast interview before release stating that there would be no grenades except demoman and pyro (and pyro apparently got ganked) but they would have weapon unlocks to make up for it. So essentially these aren't content releases, they are just taking forever to fix their game by fixing one class every 8-9 months and breaking other stuff as a result.

You're arguments are so laughable that I'm confident Valve definitely one-ups Blizzard in this department. Have fun paying for The Lich King - all that content should have been in the original game in the first place. ;)

I think we as PC gamers are fortunate to have both of these developers focusing on the PC..even though valve is technically multiplay they are PC devs and I am happying to have both around to entertain me

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#62 Jinroh_basic
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in terms of aftermarket content, Blizzard isn't even close to what Valve has been offerring over the years.
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#63 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="bdever32"] HL2's full story is in the game. Have you ever heard of a sequel? I guess Starcraft's full story wasn't in the game because they are making Starcraft 2? Plus they aren't charging $50 for each episode so I don't see what you're going on about here. The episodes together are basically HL3 as said by Valve before. They are just releasing it in a different manner. aura_enchanted

The fact is, HL2 is separated out into episodes, and Starcraft 2 will also see mutliple releases. Also, Blizzard said each "episode" will be full fledged campaigns with 20-30 missions, not 4 hour affairs (like HL2 episodes), which is why the price is higher. Personally I think what Valve offered is well worth the money, and based on Blizzards past games, Starcraft will also be worth the money. The point is, if you are going to criticize one company for splitting a game into pieces (or episodes), then the same criticism needs to be places on the other company.

yes but you see blizzard neglects there games man thats another fine reason they cant win. would u like to know the last time diablo1 got a patch ill tell you 1999! its been beaten and exploited so bad it hurts its a hackers chat room now and diablo 2 is quickly falling its predecessors footsteps, and blizzard hasnt dont a god damn thing about it. warcraft 2 hasnt changed either wheres the love for that hmm? bah there no better than microsoft game studio or rare post n64.

Ignorance on a epic scale.

Diablo II, for instance, received content after release, and has been patched years after release. New items, rune words, updates to ladder, ect.

Here is Diablo 1's patch history:

http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=21119

Warcraft II patch history:

http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=21361

And you have to remember, Diablo cam out a long time ago when multiplayer was still young, and battlenet was pretty revolutionary for it's time. Aura, you seriously say some of the most rediculous stuff on this site. Blizzard certainly does not "neglect" their games...that statement is fail on a massive scale.

Personally, I think if we look at this on a "what have you done for me lately" basis, Valve certainly comes out ahead by a good margine in added freebies. No doubt about it. Major kudos to Valve! But what you are trying to push, which is Blizzard "neglecting their games" is total rubish, and you know it.

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#64 kozzy1234
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Valve supports there games just as well as Blizzard if not better.
But yeah, when i think of companys who support there games after release, its #1. Valve #2. Blizzard
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#65 johan1986
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ascaron does with the sacred series
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#66 dnuggs40
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ascaron does with the sacred seriesjohan1986
I agree they add alot, and they seem to support their product after release very well. The only problem I have with them is they are also known for releasing extremely buggy games as well. Both Sacred and Sacred 2 were messes on release...and even today Sacred 2 (well after release) has issues. But gotta give them credit for their effort in bringing their games up to par and of course adding content after release.