Why did Deus Ex only get an 8.2 here?

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#1 TheGrayEye
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I've had the game for a little while now and have played through it and loved it. It was an incredible game. But as I just noticed, I'm curious to how the game only got an 8.2 here on gamespot? Wasn't this game considered to be a classic- game of the year kind of game, and also one of the best games of all time? The 8.2 just seems a little odd, so how did that ever happen? I know I'm like 7 years late, just wondering though...
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#2 stvee101
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Ignore that review,remember these are the guys who gave PDZ a 9, 'nuff said.
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#3 artur79
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Ignore that review,remember these are the guys who gave PDZ a 9, 'nuff said.stvee101

So, so true... And Oblivion 9,6. Yeah right.

Some of my favourite games of all time did not score more than 8,5-ish here on GS.

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#4 Avenger1324
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Deus Ex is one of those games that features in just about every 100 greatest ever games list. It's one of my highest rated games, and 8.2 does seem a bit harsh. Look at the user votes though, and with almost 4000 votes cast their average is 9.1. Metacritic user average is 9.8, though from only 108 votes cast.
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#5 thusaha
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Ignore that review,remember these are the guys who gave PDZ a 9, 'nuff said.stvee101
Agreed.
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#6 skizi1
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They gave a tony hawk game a 10, how credible can they be?
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#7 smokeydabear076
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A lot of amazing games recieve scores on this site that I don't agree with. I don't really care much about it because GS has their opinion and I have mine and I value my opinion over theirs any day.
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#8 _Pedro_
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Gamespot don't seem to like FPS/RPG hybrids, because system shock 2 only got 8.5 aswell.
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#9 naval
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because the reviewer chose to ignore everything great in the game becaue he had some problem picking the locks :shock: :shock:
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#10 DucksBrains
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Gamespot don't seem to like FPS/RPG hybrids, because system shock 2 only got 8.5 aswell. _Pedro_

And Bioshock a 9 ho hum.

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#11 mfsa
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GameSpot almost seems to rate based on mainstream appeal - games like System Shock 2, The Witcher, Deus Ex, Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines (this score was probably justified given the state of the game at release) and more all failed to get anywhere near a 9, while games which do not even vaguely compare on the awesomeness scale, but have huge mainstream appeal - games like Gears of War - get absurdly high scores.

That said, while I acknowledge Deus Ex as a pretty damn good game, I don't like it. Remember that there is no such thing as an objective opinion - and that's just what a review is. An opinion.. The developer may make mention of features and so forth - facts - but it is not the feature list that makes the game - it's the experience. And everyone experiences things differently. One man's nine is another's five. The reviewer might have just disliked it.

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#12 _Pedro_
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]Gamespot don't seem to like FPS/RPG hybrids, because system shock 2 only got 8.5 aswell. DucksBrains

And Bioshock a 9 ho hum.

you call that a FPS/RPG hybrid?

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#13 giantraddish
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I'm a big fan of Deus Ex, it's one of my all time favorites. But I have no problem with an 8.2 score. It was far from perfect. It had a clunky graphics system that looked mediocre and taxed most systems of the day. It was buggy on release. The "choices" in the storyline were mostly cosmetic. And it had some sloppy implementation (25MB save files).

There is lots to love. It had a good story and a great imersive game world. The character development was a lot of fun. And the multiple approaches to every situtation was great. Don't loose track that 8.something is a good score. It means Gamespot liked it and recommended it. It just wasn't perfect.

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#14 solid_mario
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Everyone seems to be forgetting that reviews are relative.
They gave a tony hawk game a 10, how credible can they be?skizi1
The reviewer thought that this game was perfect. He couldn't find a flaw in it. However, if you aren't a skate fan/don't like it, then the review isn't the be all and end all. It's when they start giving crap games good scores, that's when you need to get worried.
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#15 OoSuperMarioO
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Ignore that review,remember these are the guys who gave PDZ a 9, 'nuff said.stvee101
PDZ was a amazing game actually.

Edit: BTW Greg Kasavin was probably the best reviewer this site had.

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#16 d_agra
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[QUOTE="DucksBrains"]

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]Gamespot don't seem to like FPS/RPG hybrids, because system shock 2 only got 8.5 aswell. _Pedro_

And Bioshock a 9 ho hum.

you call that a FPS/RPG hybrid?

Oblivion!!Enough said!!Just replace shooting with constant hacking!!

Actually to a point is not much of an RPG!!

Anyway dont listen to them, there is loads of underated game FAllout and Fallout,medieval II and kingdown. Cant believe they gave Hitman 5.2...i loved that game even though it had bugs!!

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#17 BLaZe462
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If it's not mainstream or a clone its not gonna get too high of a score
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#18 Zeliard9
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Gamespot gave System Shock 2 an 8.5 and later inducted it into their "Greatest Games of All-Time". I've always found that amusing.
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#19 mrbojangles25
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because the game was so insanely good that the reviewer couldnt wrap is head around it.

Its like not knowing how big the universe is, then finding out...it just boggled the mind.

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#20 wheezal
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the scores here are like Baccarat. it's not an 8.5, it's an 18.5! it's so good but the numbering system just rolls over the first digit if it gets above 10. thats also why the gamespot site thinks it's actually 1908, not 2008. crazy computers and their interwebs!

wait..what the h3ll am i talking aboot?

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#21 _Pedro_
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Oblivion!!Enough said!!Just replace shooting with constant hacking!!

Actually to a point is not much of an RPG!!

d_agra

man that game is amongst the highest rated games ever on the PC and got a 9,6 on the 360. You know, it's a good game and I respect people liking it, but it's just so wrong when the Witcher and Mass Effect only get 8,5.

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#22 artur79
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[QUOTE="d_agra"]

Oblivion!!Enough said!!Just replace shooting with constant hacking!!

Actually to a point is not much of an RPG!!

_Pedro_

man that game is amongst the highest rated games ever on the PC and got a 9,6 on the 360. You know, it's a good game and I respect people liking it, but it's just so wrong when the Witcher and Mass Effect only get 8,5.

Amen

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#23 CubePrime_basic
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Gamespot don't seem to like FPS/RPG hybrids, because system shock 2 only got 8.5 aswell. _Pedro_
and they destroyed Dark Messiah, it wasn't the best, but in no way did it deserve that low of a score.
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#24 Makari
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]Gamespot don't seem to like FPS/RPG hybrids, because system shock 2 only got 8.5 aswell. CubePrime_basic
and they destroyed Dark Messiah, it wasn't the best, but in no way did it deserve that low of a score.

People on this site hated it for bugs. Ditto for Deus Ex. At launch it was a bit buggy, IIRC. We take a lot of the patched versions of games for granted. Years ago in one of these threads, GregK dropped by and posted that there are a few reviews he wishes he could go back and change in hindsight, and Deus Ex was not one of them. He stands by the 8.2 score of the game as he reviewed it.
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#25 JP_Russell
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"]Gamespot don't seem to like FPS/RPG hybrids, because system shock 2 only got 8.5 aswell. CubePrime_basic
and they destroyed Dark Messiah, it wasn't the best, but in no way did it deserve that low of a score.

I disagree. Even now, after performance has been increased and bugs have been largely fixed, I wouldn't rate the game beyond the 7.0-7.5 range. At the time of release, 6.7 was a pretty accurate score, I think.

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#26 inyourface_12
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Ignore that review,remember these are the guys who gave PDZ a 9, 'nuff said.stvee101

and halo 3 a 9.5 i laughed my head off when i saw that