why did they split starcraft 2 into 3 games?

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#1 JangoWuzHere
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Whats the point? this is a terrible idea IMO. Why did they have to @#$% this up? I hope this changes when the game gets released or they clarify better on whats going on. I don't want to spend 50$ for a game and have half the content missing.

This is just stupid if you ask me.

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#2 tony2077ca
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they did so they can focus on one campaign at a time everything else is there and they will probably add new units in the other ones
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#3 Jackboot343
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we want more money

yeah more money

we want more money

yeah more money

more money

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#4 crazymaghie123
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Whats the point? this is a terrible idea IMO. Why did they have to @#$% this up? I hope this changes when the game gets released or they clarify better on whats going on. I don't want to spend 50$ for a game and have half the content missing.

This is just stupid if you ask me.

JangoWuzHere

Well if they have 30 missions, the same as the original, then technically they aren't missing half the content

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#5 furymonkeyman
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You'll get to play all 3 race in the multiplayer, the single player however will focus on the Terran to allow more depth. Like others have said, you get as much missions as you would normally get. Just think the other 2 as expansion packs, expansion pack allow them to polish and balance the game even more, just like Starcraft and Warcraft 3 wouldn't be as good without Brood war and Frozen Throne. The only drawback I see is that the Protoss and Zerg fans have to wait for their campaigns. :p
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#6 Skeptomania
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Supposedly it's going to have one long singleplayer campaign for one race in each of the three games. All 3 races will be available for multiplayer from the beginning.
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#7 Siofen
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It's clearly a money grab, I mean was there anything wrong with the previous formula of all 3 campaigns at once and then expand the story-line through the expansion? That formula was a huge success time on and time again. There was nothing wrong with it in either the starcraft series or in the warcraft series. Why change it now? Considering this will be blizzards first Non-WOW release, in the face of that collosal success, it's just looks like a money grab at all angels. Someone higher up must of said why make a starcraft release when you can just make more WOW expansion packs which are bound to bring back old customers, considering starcraft was not announced to be a triology off the bat, I really think that's the case.

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#8 starwarsgeek112
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Starcraft/Blizzard fanboys will say it's to expand the single player campaign for each race.

But in reality it's a money grab!! When developers pull crap like this it makes me want to pirate their games.
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#9 furymonkeyman
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I think it's the change of style in the single player campaign, instead of forced to play missions they gave you, you get to choose the missions you want to do, you also get to decide your own techtree as you progress (Many won't featured in the multiplayer). This allow alot more replayability and would be too limited if it's just 10 mission for each race.
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#10 naval
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I think it is a great idea -- a great series like starcraft needs a epic campaign like this. If the Single player part is really good then I would prefer buying the other 2 parts rather than spending money on some other lame game. If its subpar then I will just need one version to play the multiplayer, and I can ignore the rest
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#11 TanKLoveR
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I think it is a great idea -- a great series like starcraft needs a epic campaign like this. If the Single player part is really good then I would prefer buying the other 2 parts rather than spending money on some other lame game. If its subpar then I will just need one version to play the multiplayer, and I can ignore the restnaval
I agree with that, how can any SC fan complaint? they get to play a longer deeper campaign and is not like u wont get the full multiplayer with the first game so im happy about this :D. I really want to see what kerrigan does from now and if Duran will make an appearance :O.
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#12 mudman91878
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Starcraft/Blizzard fanboys will say it's to expand the single player campaign for each race.

But in reality it's a money grab!! When developers pull crap like this it makes me want to pirate their games.starwarsgeek112

100% wrong. Nothing you said makes any sense at all.

1. 30+ missions per race IS expanding the single player portion. Name another game that does that?

2. IF blizzard was obsessed with making money, as you seem to think, then we'd be on Warcraft 7 and Starcraft 4 by now....you know, kind of like what other companies do.

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#13 SpaceMoose
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I think they want to do a deep campaign for each game. They already did one expansion for every game anyway, so now they are basically doing one more and flipping the structure of it around. RTS campaigns have become stale in general, and if they find a way to make the campaign portion more interesting than a bunch of build and destroy missions strung together, then I'm all about that, and if you just care about the mutliplayer it probably won't be much different from their normal expansion structure...well, except there has only been one expansion for all their other RTS games. It isn't clear how or if the additional games are going to affect multiplayer at any rate. It also isn't clear what the pricing is going to be.

Another reality is that game development costs are soaring and soaring as people demand more out of their games. Although the economy in general is bad right now, that's a problem that's been affecting game companies for some time. (Competition for people's gaming dollar has also rather fierce with so many AAA or at least A grade titles being released, but Blizzard is one of the few PC game developers for whom that is probably not much of an issue.)

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#14 Lach0121
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i see it this way as long as the campaigns on each of the 3 parts are around 30 or so missions each, and not just mission after mission, i mean missions that keep me intrigued in playing all the way thru 90 missions total.

then im fine with that..

be we will see once the first one is released... if the campaign of the terrans, isnt long.. or it maybe long, but it isnt immersive enough, then i wont buy the others..

but if it is, then ill get the others as well.. its not that hard a concept people.

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#15 XaosII
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If you arent interested in the singleplayer much, then get any of them for the multiplayer. Any of them will have all 3 races online.

If you are interested in the singleplayer, why would you rather have 10 missions instead of 30?

The ONLY people that should be disappointed are non-Terran fans as they'll have to wait longer to get their favorite race's expac.

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#16 jjtiebuckle
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Agree with everyone. It's a money grab at 40$ apiece (meaning 120$ for Starcraft 2), but at the same time 30 missions is ridiculous - ly fantastic! If you've never played an RTS, they you might not realize the difference between 10 missions and 30. 10 missions mean each mission is a level and they become more challenging with each level, while new units are slowly released into your arsenal. 30 missions means the same thing as 10 missions, only now they have 20 extra missions to create a couple missions devoted strictly to story; 10 missions uniquely created for that race and the units you have at hand; the last remaining missions to carry on creativity and story. As long as the story is good, I can picture this upping Warcraft 3 SP with pocket aces.
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#17 bri360
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Because Blizzard Loooooooooovvvveesssss the money! Thats the only reason, thats the only reason anyone does anything in this world. They dont even need it, they make millions from WOW every month.
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#18 FelipeInside
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- If they bring out a game with all 3 races but not long enough.... SOMEONE COMPLAINS - They bring out a game divided into 3, to go deep into story for each race and..... SOMEONE COMPLAINS - WoW is played by millions...but someone doesn't like it...so THEY COMPLAIN...and SAY ITS THE WORST GAME EVER please stop complaining....
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- If they bring out a game with all 3 races but not long enough.... SOMEONE COMPLAINS - They bring out a game divided into 3, to go deep into story for each race and..... SOMEONE COMPLAINS - WoW is played by millions...but someone doesn't like it...so THEY COMPLAIN...and SAY ITS THE WORST GAME EVER please stop complaining....FelipeInside

valid points. lol

people complain about things they shouldnt be complaining about, and just say "oh its just life" about things they should be complaining about.

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#20 not_wanted
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we want more money

yeah more money

we want more money

yeah more money

more money

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This. They split it because they wanted to make more money out of the game. And all that with there is so much they wanted to add to the Terran campaign and that this way they will release it sooner are just lies. Doubt we'll see the game this year. Why would they release the game this year when they make $100 mil. a month from WOW?
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we want more money

yeah more money

we want more money

yeah more money

more money

Jackboot343
Pretty much.
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#22 FelipeInside
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and they still complain... Ok.... for all of you that complain, DONT BUY IT.....yes, we all know you will buy all 3 games and play them....so either accept it and buy them...or complain and don't play them...
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#23 not_wanted
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and they still complain... Ok.... for all of you that complain, DONT BUY IT.....yes, we all know you will buy all 3 games and play them....so either accept it and buy them...or complain and don't play them...FelipeInside
NO. :x Maybe we want to complain and still play them. :P
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#24 SamiRDuran
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in after "blizzard is greedy" comments
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#25 Enosh88
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I think it is a great idea -- a great series like starcraft needs a epic campaign like this. If the Single player part is really good then I would prefer buying the other 2 parts rather than spending money on some other lame game. If its subpar then I will just need one version to play the multiplayer, and I can ignore the restnaval

actualy no, since each of the "expansions" will add more MP units, you need all 3 to play MP

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#26 GodLovesDead
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3x the games. 3x the money.
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#27 Tuzolord
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3x the games. 3x the money.GodLovesDead

3x the Content

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#28 GodLovesDead
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[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]3x the games. 3x the money.Tuzolord

3x the Content

3x the bullsh*t. If you want to spend $150 to play Starcraft 2 online, be my guest.
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#29 aliblabla2007
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Why did they split Starcraft 2 into 3 games?

Umm... hello, Activision.

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#30 TanKLoveR
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You only need 50$ for the first game to play online, u need 150 to play the whole campaign with all 3 races.
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#31 Johnny_Rock
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Whats the point? this is a terrible idea IMO. Why did they have to @#$% this up? I hope this changes when the game gets released or they clarify better on whats going on. I don't want to spend 50$ for a game and have half the content missing.

This is just stupid if you ask me.

JangoWuzHere

A. Right... they BETTER clarify to you... :roll:

B. Why is it that half the conent will be missing (if it's 3 sides, then it would be 1/3) instead of they could be making 3 full sized campaigns?

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#32 Enosh88
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You only need 50$ for the first game to play online, u need 150 to play the whole campaign with all 3 races.TanKLoveR

why do people keep ignoring me? -.-

blizzard said they will be aditional units in all the expansions for MP=if you want to play the MP like everyone else you will need all 3 games, if you get only the first one you will only be able to play with people who also only own the first one, and that will be quite a minority

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#33 Erlkoenig
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Some people can only see what's right in front of their eyes. DoW2 will only have the Space Marine campaign at release. And if the original DoW is any indication, they will surely make 2 or more expansions with the campaign from the remaining races. It's more or less the same thing Blizzard is doing, except that Blizzard is transparent about their plan this time. Yet you see nobody complaining about Relic. Similarly, Valves makes you pay $20 for 5-6 hours of single player with their episodes, which is a rip off but for some reason I don't see many if any complaints. It's probably because Valve masks the cost well by bundling it with other TF2, Portal, etc... Short-sighted, eh?
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#34 furymonkeyman
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I remember there was also an uproar about the Valve's plan to release in episodes, but I guess people were amazed at the quality that they decide to shut up. I think we will have to wait and see if this will be the case for Blizzard.
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[QUOTE="TanKLoveR"]You only need 50$ for the first game to play online, u need 150 to play the whole campaign with all 3 races.Enosh88

why do people keep ignoring me? -.-

blizzard said they will be aditional units in all the expansions for MP=if you want to play the MP like everyone else you will need all 3 games, if you get only the first one you will only be able to play with people who also only own the first one, and that will be quite a minority

because you dont have a point. there will be plenty of people that will not buy all 3 games so you can play with them.
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#36 aura_enchanted
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of course they did it for the content and the fact that you have to pay more at one time for all of it is just a side show. oh and kets not forget the expansions (which will most likely have the same thing happening to them). im not on for bashing companies that do more with there games but its clearly just a way of forcing you to buy more en mass rather than the convention hope 1 does it all game making.

to say this ISNT profit oriented is a clear sign your lying to yourself. theres probably going to be an upheaval as they turn another one of there games into an episodic series (thus causing the half-life effect) there getting to high on there horse someone needs to bite em at the ankles.

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#37 Lach0121
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of course they did it for the content and the fact that you have to pay more at one time for all of it is just a side show. oh and kets not forget the expansions (which will most likely have the same thing happening to them). im not on for bashing companies that do more with there games but its clearly just a way of forcing you to buy more en mass rather than the convention hope 1 does it all game making.

to say this ISNT profit oriented is a clear sign your lying to yourself. theres probably going to be an upheaval as they turn another one of there games into an episodic series (thus causing the half-life effect) there getting to high on there horse someone needs to bite em at the ankles.

aura_enchanted

just about everything in a monetary-based capitalism is profit oriented.

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#38 aura_enchanted
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[QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

of course they did it for the content and the fact that you have to pay more at one time for all of it is just a side show. oh and kets not forget the expansions (which will most likely have the same thing happening to them). im not on for bashing companies that do more with there games but its clearly just a way of forcing you to buy more en mass rather than the convention hope 1 does it all game making.

to say this ISNT profit oriented is a clear sign your lying to yourself. theres probably going to be an upheaval as they turn another one of there games into an episodic series (thus causing the half-life effect) there getting to high on there horse someone needs to bite em at the ankles.

Lach0121

just about everything in a monetary-based capitalism is profit oriented.

yes but im throwing it at the guys claiming its all because of content not profit. i like burying already buried stuff and kicking dead horses in my spare time XD

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#39 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"][QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

of course they did it for the content and the fact that you have to pay more at one time for all of it is just a side show. oh and kets not forget the expansions (which will most likely have the same thing happening to them). im not on for bashing companies that do more with there games but its clearly just a way of forcing you to buy more en mass rather than the convention hope 1 does it all game making.

to say this ISNT profit oriented is a clear sign your lying to yourself. theres probably going to be an upheaval as they turn another one of there games into an episodic series (thus causing the half-life effect) there getting to high on there horse someone needs to bite em at the ankles.

aura_enchanted

just about everything in a monetary-based capitalism is profit oriented.

yes but im throwing it at the guys claiming its all because of content not profit. i like burying already buried stuff and kicking dead horses in my spare time XD

lol.

ill be getting atleast the first SC2, once it comes down in price, and if i dont feel that it satisfied me, then i wont get the others, but if it does, then i might, it all depends on the first game when it comes out

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#40 aura_enchanted
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furthermore who with me agrees there a bit high on their horse? id love to see a fire consume blizzard HQ and burn alot of work. itd show them huberis kills.
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#41 Lach0121
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furthermore who with me agrees there a bit high on their horse? id love to see a fire consume blizzard HQ and burn alot of work. itd show them huberis kills.aura_enchanted

a fire to any buildings? hmm my vote goes to the banks. that is if i had to choose i mean

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#42 aura_enchanted
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true thatd hurt aswell but seriously they are getting cocky with the move there pulling here and more importantly the fact there TRYING to make diablo 3 is a bit of a cocky move too because they hve to bring diablo back from the dead after he was killed TWICE and the second time he died. it was done properly so his return will be cliche and like something out of a soap opera when the kids daddy returns from 20 years at sea after a shipwreck XD.
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#43 Lach0121
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true thatd hurt aswell but seriously they are getting cocky with the move there pulling here and more importantly the fact there TRYING to make diablo 3 is a bit of a cocky move too because they hve to bring diablo back from the dead after he was killed TWICE and the second time he died. it was done properly so his return will be cliche and like something out of a soap opera when the kids daddy returns from 20 years at sea after a shipwreck XD.aura_enchanted

lol true, but lets be honest, we all thought diablo was dead at the end of the first one? sure the guy slammed the crystal into his skull..

but we will see.

im looking forward to diablo3 much more than SC, i hope they dont screw it up.

and if they dont use Matt Uelmen for the soundtrack that will be step one in screwing it up. he brought the atmoshpere and mood to the game.

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#44 krazyorange
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All other arguments make no sense. It's clearly a money ploy. Balancing issues? How long has the game been in development? Plus, there is a little something called "patches." Additionally, Blizzard is not the kind of company who will put something out that isn't 100% ready to be released. Thus, splitting it up is clearly and only for the money, because they know people will pay for it. If they made Diablo 3 $100, I would buy it and so would millions of others.
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#45 furymonkeyman
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Companies are exists to make a profit, but that doesn't bury the point that they also want to create great games for the fans, because greate game leads to more profit! In fact many are happy they'd create an extra expansion than they'd normally would. Known its Blizzard, they'll take their time making each release worth it. Why don't you direct your hate at other more half-ass developer/publisher! :P Blizzard is one of the rare good developer IMO.
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#46 aura_enchanted
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Companies are exists to make a profit, but that doesn't bury the point that they also want to create great games for the fans, because greate game leads to more profit! In fact many are happy they'd create an extra expansion than they'd normally would. Known its Blizzard, they'll take their time making each release worth it. Why don't you direct your hate at other more half-ass developer/publisher! :P Blizzard is one of the rare good developer IMO.furymonkeyman

oh u mean like EA aww too soon?

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#47 Lach0121
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Companies are exists to make a profit, but that doesn't bury the point that they also want to create great games for the fans, because greate game leads to more profit! In fact many are happy they'd create an extra expansion than they'd normally would. Known its Blizzard, they'll take their time making each release worth it. Why don't you direct your hate at other more half-ass developer/publisher! :P Blizzard is one of the rare good developer IMO.furymonkeyman

wait are you referring to me? or the OP?

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#48 aura_enchanted
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[QUOTE="furymonkeyman"]Companies are exists to make a profit, but that doesn't bury the point that they also want to create great games for the fans, because greate game leads to more profit! In fact many are happy they'd create an extra expansion than they'd normally would. Known its Blizzard, they'll take their time making each release worth it. Why don't you direct your hate at other more half-ass developer/publisher! :P Blizzard is one of the rare good developer IMO.Lach0121

wait are you referring to me?

hes calling them nice guys like square enix or eidos haha he deserves a good dunking in a barrel of water.

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#49 furymonkeyman
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All other arguments make no sense. It's clearly a money ploy. Balancing issues? How long has the game been in development? Plus, there is a little something called "patches." Additionally, Blizzard is not the kind of company who will put something out that isn't 100% ready to be released. Thus, splitting it up is clearly and only for the money, because they know people will pay for it. If they made Diablo 3 $100, I would buy it and so would millions of others.krazyorange
It will hurt them if they release a half-balanced game, known patch will fix it up. Thats bad practice some of the developers are doing, and the end result is pretty clear.
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#50 aura_enchanted
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[QUOTE="krazyorange"]All other arguments make no sense. It's clearly a money ploy. Balancing issues? How long has the game been in development? Plus, there is a little something called "patches." Additionally, Blizzard is not the kind of company who will put something out that isn't 100% ready to be released. Thus, splitting it up is clearly and only for the money, because they know people will pay for it. If they made Diablo 3 $100, I would buy it and so would millions of others.furymonkeyman
It will hurt them if they release a half-balanced game, known patch will fix it up. Thats bad practice some of the developers are doing, and the end result is pretty clear.

dude all games get patched right after release to say they dont is like saying water + tea bag = vodka your nuts and you know it.