why did they split starcraft 2 into 3 games?

At leasts it's a good attempt trying to make it good from the start, thats why game reviews dont re-review games, some people hate buggy release.furymonkeyman

furthermore you cant weasel out of this man, WoW had its own serious issues during release and some of them havent improved seriously i can name over 100 games that started better then it (including some of there older work) blizzard is far from the word perfect as is most other game developers. so the way i see it your fanboy dom is based off your love of the individual title not the developer itself and more importantly you know NOTHING of there previous titles SO the way i see it you are fluff and have no right defending them. NEXT VICTIM PLEASE!

[QUOTE="furymonkeyman"]At leasts it's a good attempt trying to make it good from the start, thats why game reviews dont re-review games, some people hate buggy release.aura_enchanted

furthermore you cant weasel out of this man, WoW had its own serious issues during release and some of them havent improved seriously i can name over 100 games that started better then it (including some of there older work) blizzard is far from the word perfect as is most other game developers. so the way i see it your fanboy dom is based off your love of the individual title not the developer itself and more importantly you know NOTHING of there previous titles SO the way i see it you are fluff and have no right defending them. NEXT VICTIM PLEASE!

if u truly try to respond to this are u aware of the2nd starcraft expansion and the 2nd and 3rd warcraft expansion they all were supported by blizzard 9meaning they helped make them but dont hold ownership over) and they all SUCKED ASS and have been stricken from history. furthermore it was there work but not there responsibility. starcraft insurrection got a 3.4, warcraft aztecs armory and morecraft (yes thats its name) both got 5.0. there far from perfect my friend. also need a remind you of warcraft adventures and starcraft ghost, lost vikings 3, and finally there space based RTS the cancelled before even naming.

blizzard track record can be summed up like this: blizzard is like a pschizophrenic child it acts out and does really strange thing we all find wierd. and occassionally does something really cool that makes us see what he really could be.

[QUOTE="furymonkeyman"]At leasts it's a good attempt trying to make it good from the start, thats why game reviews dont re-review games, some people hate buggy release.aura_enchanted

furthermore you cant weasel out of this man, WoW had its own serious issues during release and some of them havent improved seriously i can name over 100 games that started better then it (including some of there older work) blizzard is far from the word perfect as is most other game developers. so the way i see it your fanboy dom is based off your love of the individual title not the developer itself and more importantly you know NOTHING of there previous titles SO the way i see it you are fluff and have no right defending them. NEXT VICTIM PLEASE!

[QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

[QUOTE="furymonkeyman"]At leasts it's a good attempt trying to make it good from the start, thats why game reviews dont re-review games, some people hate buggy release.furymonkeyman

furthermore you cant weasel out of this man, WoW had its own serious issues during release and some of them havent improved seriously i can name over 100 games that started better then it (including some of there older work) blizzard is far from the word perfect as is most other game developers. so the way i see it your fanboy dom is based off your love of the individual title not the developer itself and more importantly you know NOTHING of there previous titles SO the way i see it you are fluff and have no right defending them. NEXT VICTIM PLEASE!

noone, or nothing is perfect.

everyone and everything has its flaws.

but blizzard was one of my favorite devs. they are still good, but if they mess up diablo3, then they lose alot of points in my book..

but we will have to wait and see, cause it is a while before it comes out.

If I remember correctly, in the end of diablo 1 the warrior who defeated the diablo thought the only way to contain the diablo is to insert the stone into his head, but the stone slowly corrupt the warrior and he was unleashed. That was really convincing in my book, we'll have to wait and see how diablo walks again.furymonkeyman

because you dont have a point. there will be plenty of people that will not buy all 3 games so you can play with them. SamiRDuran

of course they will, but "plenty" is kinda pushing it too far. There will be some poor bastards who will play SC2 without the expansions, but it will be meanigless compared to the number of people playing with the expansion, since also all tournaments and the pro scene will evolve around the game with the expansion. Beside blizzard won't make 2 separate balance changes, they will balance the latest edition and be done with it. And when unit A from SC2 only got a hard counter in unit B from SC2ex1, you will be forced to buy all expansions or play an infernior version of the game.

we want more money

yeah more money

we want more money

yeah more money

more money

Jackboot343

Whats the point? this is a terrible idea IMO. Why did they have to @#$% this up? I hope this changes when the game gets released or they clarify better on whats going on. I don't want to spend 50$ for a game and have half the content missing.

This is just stupid if you ask me.

JangoWuzHere

you mean 2 thirds of the content missing. that is 66% which is more than half! Congrats, if you buy the game you are letting Blizz bully you as a consumer!Dr_Brocoli

Well, here's an idea: If you don't think it's worth it, don't buy it and be quiet Seriously, Why are people complaining? Blizzard hasn't even released a price point yet and the internet is in an upROOAARR! Let me ask you something...if Blizzard never release the original starcraft, would you still be complaining about how blizzard is out to get your money? Yeah, I know. A company making money. What a travesty! Blizzard has never steered consumers wrong.

They release quality products and don't milk it nearly as much as other companies. EA Releases a new madden EVERY SINGLE YEAR and nobody says a word. Blizzard could easily milk all those WoW addicts with a new expansion every few months but they don't, they release a huge portion of their new content FOR FREE. How many expansions and adventure packs has EQ2 had? EIGHT!

And now because blizz has a plan to deliver a superior product over 2 expansions instead of 1 people are upset and calling blizzard greedy? That's a crock! Get over it, buy it or don't buy it, but to call Blizzard greedy is ridiculous when they have been one of the generous developers ever. There is NO reason to believe that their sc2 plan isn't genuine and has the best interest of their customers in mind. They always have

It looks like a pure money grab. After the popularity of StarCraft, and the huge success they have had with WoW, Blizzard no longer want to make a game they can only get one sale from. By splitting it into 3 (and likely charging full price for each) they get to sell you one game 3 times, and get $150 from you instead of just $50.Avenger1324

What game has blizzard made without an expansion since the original warcraft and diablo 1? Your post makes no sense

Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness
Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal
Warcraft II: Battle.net Edition

StarCraft
StarCraft: Brood War

Diablo II
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction

Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne

World of Warcraft
World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

So you waited until starcraft 2 to be surprised? orly?

[QUOTE="furymonkeyman"]If I remember correctly, in the end of diablo 1 the warrior who defeated the diablo thought the only way to contain the diablo is to insert the stone into his head, but the stone slowly corrupt the warrior and he was unleashed. That was really convincing in my book, we'll have to wait and see how diablo walks again.DanielDust

how could it he was killed in HELL unles all of a sudden hell happens to be located somewhere near palm springs LOL.

[QUOTE="Avenger1324"]It looks like a pure money grab. After the popularity of StarCraft, and the huge success they have had with WoW, Blizzard no longer want to make a game they can only get one sale from. By splitting it into 3 (and likely charging full price for each) they get to sell you one game 3 times, and get $150 from you instead of just $50.TeamR

What game has blizzard made without an expansion since the original warcraft and diablo 1? Your post makes no sense

Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness
Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal
Warcraft II: Battle.net Edition

StarCraft
StarCraft: Brood War

Diablo II
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction

Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne

World of Warcraft
World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

So you waited until starcraft 2 to be surprised? orly?

your missing the following:

rock&roll racing

lost vikings (dont recall how many of these)

diablo: hellfire

warcraft 2 expansion: morecraft,

warcraft 2: aztecs armory

starcraft: insurection

but all the same

your missing the following:

rock&roll racing

lost vikings (dont recall how many of these)

diablo: hellfire

warcraft 2 expansion: morecraft,

warcraft 2: aztecs armory

starcraft: insurection

but all the same

aura_enchanted

ummm....I didn't want to list console games or unofficial expansions, which is what all those are

[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="furymonkeyman"]If I remember correctly, in the end of diablo 1 the warrior who defeated the diablo thought the only way to contain the diablo is to insert the stone into his head, but the stone slowly corrupt the warrior and he was unleashed. That was really convincing in my book, we'll have to wait and see how diablo walks again.aura_enchanted

how could it he was killed in HELL unles all of a sudden hell happens to be located somewhere near palm springs LOL.

[QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

[QUOTE="DanielDust"] If I recall correctly a comet or asteroid hit the place where Diablo died and he came back to life. Don't really remember but it was something like that. Maybe that isn't all but that's what Blizz revealed so far.DanielDust

how could it he was killed in HELL unles all of a sudden hell happens to be located somewhere near palm springs LOL.

true but if he did that why in gods name would he want to kill ppl chillin on the beaches is muc better. and more importantly having a metorite travel through the earth like that would take THOUSANDS OF YEARS so to have it set in a medival time is B.S.

my beliefe is this he comes back from the dead again lord knows how and its a poor soap opera entrance.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

how could it he was killed in HELL unles all of a sudden hell happens to be located somewhere near palm springs LOL.

aura_enchanted

true but if he did that why in gods name would he want to kill ppl chillin on the beaches is muc better. and more importantly having a metorite travel through the earth like that would take THOUSANDS OF YEARS so to have it set in a medival time is B.S.

my beliefe is this he comes back from the dead again lord knows how and its a poor soap opera entrance.

fact:

hell is in michigan... lol dont believe me look it up lol.

[QUOTE="aura_enchanted"][QUOTE="DanielDust"] Yeah I mean in Diablo, hell isn't under the surface of the earth, hell can't be unleashed through cracks that are formed in the earths crust and reach all the way to hell....oh wait. Diablo is fantasy, and hell can be under Palm Springs, "under" Palm Springs to be exact ;).Lach0121

true but if he did that why in gods name would he want to kill ppl chillin on the beaches is muc better. and more importantly having a metorite travel through the earth like that would take THOUSANDS OF YEARS so to have it set in a medival time is B.S.

my beliefe is this he comes back from the dead again lord knows how and its a poor soap opera entrance.

fact:

hell is in michigan... lol dont believe me look it up lol.

fact:

the greeks, romans, and jews believed in hell before the discovery of the USA.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

true but if he did that why in gods name would he want to kill ppl chillin on the beaches is muc better. and more importantly having a metorite travel through the earth like that would take THOUSANDS OF YEARS so to have it set in a medival time is B.S.

my beliefe is this he comes back from the dead again lord knows how and its a poor soap opera entrance.

aura_enchanted

fact:

hell is in michigan... lol dont believe me look it up lol.

fact:

the greeks, romans, and jews believed in hell before the discovery of the USA.

lol faith? dont get me started on faith my man.. err. or woman... well fellow human being.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hell+michigan&aq=f&oq= here is your proof

[QUOTE="naval"]I think it is a great idea -- a great series like starcraft needs a epic campaign like this. If the Single player part is really good then I would prefer buying the other 2 parts rather than spending money on some other lame game. If its subpar then I will just need one version to play the multiplayer, and I can ignore the restEnosh88

actualy no, since each of the "expansions" will add more MP units, you need all 3 to play MP

[QUOTE="aura_enchanted"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]

fact:

hell is in michigan... lol dont believe me look it up lol.

Lach0121

fact:

the greeks, romans, and jews believed in hell before the discovery of the USA.

lol faith? dont get me started on faith my man.. err. or woman... well fellow human being.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hell+michigan&aq=f&oq= here is your proof

true but then hell must have a second doorway in russia which begs to ask the question why u bothered with the first joke if that would have been more believable.

It would take thousands of years, but "you" don't know when those thousands of years will come to an end, even today after exactly 4 minutes a meteorite could struck earth, "you" don't know much about anything except earth, none of us do and there could be a whole debate over thousands of pages over that. It just happened, that's when that meteor struck earth in that time.

Why was Tyrael like that, angels can't be outcasts, oh it happened and in history/mythology etc there are numerous examples, so is with meteors. + That meteor is suppose to have some evil power contained in it so all it has to do is hit earth, and that evil energy will travel all the way to hell. Again "fantasy" and this specific thing happened numerous times in fantasy stories. I doubt it will be a soap opera, but we will see about it, after we know the WHOLE story, but so far, it's all about a meteor that contains dark/evil energy.

Remember the D1 Tristram, all it took was a simple thing and suddenly a crack formed that went all the way to hell, for all I know (and from the trailer) that meteor could do the same thing and it probably does, even tho there could be more to it.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"][QUOTE="aura_enchanted"]

fact:

the greeks, romans, and jews believed in hell before the discovery of the USA.

aura_enchanted

lol faith? dont get me started on faith my man.. err. or woman... well fellow human being.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hell+michigan&aq=f&oq= here is your proof

true but then hell must have a second doorway in russia which begs to ask the question why u bothered with the first joke if that would have been more believable.

hmm, yet you joked about it being in palm springs?

i was just trying to lighten the mood, friend.

now about it there being a hell in russia somewhere, i dont doubt it one bit, there are prolly multiple hell's all over the world. :P

It would take thousands of years, but "you" don't know when those thousands of years will come to an end, even today after exactly 4 minutes a meteorite could struck earth, "you" don't know much about anything except earth, none of us do and there could be a whole debate over thousands of pages over that. It just happened, that's when that meteor struck earth in that time.

Why was Tyrael like that, angels can't be outcasts, oh it happened and in history/mythology etc there are numerous examples, so is with meteors. + That meteor is suppose to have some evil power contained in it so all it has to do is hit earth, and that evil energy will travel all the way to hell. Again "fantasy" and this specific thing happened numerous times in fantasy stories. I doubt it will be a soap opera, but we will see about it, after we know the WHOLE story, but so far, it's all about a meteor that contains dark/evil energy.

Remember the D1 Tristram, all it took was a simple thing and suddenly a crack formed that went all the way to hell, for all I know (and from the trailer) that meteor could do the same thing and it probably does, even those there could be more to it.

DanielDust

i agree. see the original zombie flicks were explained 2 ways...

1. ran out of room in "hell"

2. a comet re-animated the dead

now its all airborn virus and all lol.

- If they bring out a game with all 3 races but not long enough.... SOMEONE COMPLAINS - They bring out a game divided into 3, to go deep into story for each race and..... SOMEONE COMPLAINS - WoW is played by millions...but someone doesn't like it...so THEY COMPLAIN...and SAY ITS THE WORST GAME EVER please stop complaining....FelipeInside

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]- If they bring out a game with all 3 races but not long enough.... SOMEONE COMPLAINS - They bring out a game divided into 3, to go deep into story for each race and..... SOMEONE COMPLAINS - WoW is played by millions...but someone doesn't like it...so THEY COMPLAIN...and SAY ITS THE WORST GAME EVER please stop complaining....neatfeatguy

you mean human conditioning, cause human nature doesnt exist.

human nature/instinct, are the insights in which people cant account for when looking into them with a shallow view.

but you will more than likely argue, but im gonna go game now, its just too many people think this crap.

1. They never said they were each going to be $50. Maybe they will be, but that assumption is a bit presumptuous.

2. Apparently people haven't noticed that there is an expansion for every Blizzard game since at least Warcraft II. Now they are telling you ahead of time that there are basically going to be two expansions, and people are griping about it not because there is basically one more "expansion," but because they are doing something different with the structure of the campaigns. I know they aren't technically expansions, but they might as well be. Pretty much everyone who's going to buy them would have bought any expansions for the game anyway. In fact, the only reason Blizzard even said ahead of time that they are doing this, which isn't that much different from their normal business model actually, is that they didn't want to have a bunch of people going, "What the hell?" when they buy Starcraft II and only the Terrans have a campaign.

3. The idea that they are going to do expansions in between these is rather preposterous, especially considering how long Blizzard takes to release anything.

1. They never said they were each going to be $50. Maybe they will be, but that assumption is a bit presumptuous.

2. Apparently people haven't noticed that there is an expansion for every Blizzard game since at least Warcraft II. Now they are telling you ahead of time that there are basically going to be two expansions, and people are griping about it not because there is basically one more "expansion," but because they are doing something different with the structure of the campaigns. I know they aren't technically expansions, but they might as well be. Pretty much everyone who's going to buy them would have bought any expansions for the game anyway. In fact, the only reason Blizzard even said ahead of time that they are doing this, which isn't that much different from their normal business model actually, is that they didn't want to have a bunch of people going, "What the hell?" when they buy Starcraft II and only the Terrans have a campaign.

3. The idea that they are going to do expansions in between these is rather preposterous, especially considering how long Blizzard takes to release anything.

SpaceMoose

its assumed $50 each because WoL IS $50 before preorder.

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

1. They never said they were each going to be $50. Maybe they will be, but that assumption is a bit presumptuous.

2. Apparently people haven't noticed that there is an expansion for every Blizzard game since at least Warcraft II. Now they are telling you ahead of time that there are basically going to be two expansions, and people are griping about it not because there is basically one more "expansion," but because they are doing something different with the structure of the campaigns. I know they aren't technically expansions, but they might as well be. Pretty much everyone who's going to buy them would have bought any expansions for the game anyway. In fact, the only reason Blizzard even said ahead of time that they are doing this, which isn't that much different from their normal business model actually, is that they didn't want to have a bunch of people going, "What the hell?" when they buy Starcraft II and only the Terrans have a campaign.

3. The idea that they are going to do expansions in between these is rather preposterous, especially considering how long Blizzard takes to release anything.

aura_enchanted

its assumed $50 each because WoL IS $50 before preorder.

alot of people forget about hellfire... the unofficial expansion to diablo 1. which wasnt even done by blizzard.

like i said before, if SC2 the first one lol that just sounds weird lol, but if SC2 1/3 is great and i thought it well worth the money, then ill get the other 2 parts.

if not then i wont. and honestly i feel when its all said and done, most people will follow this formula as well. until then all we can do is argue about speculation.

lol faith? dont get me started on faith my man.. err. or woman... well fellow human being.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hell+michigan&aq=f&oq= here is your proof

Lach0121

well there is another entrance in norway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway

and there is a cave in my country that is caled "pekel" which translated means Hell

link please where Blizzard have said that all the 3 versions will be incompatible multiplayer wise ?naval

"How will the expansion sets impact multiplayer gameplay?
The expansion sets will add new content to each race for use in multiplayer matches. This could include additions such as new units, abilities, and structures, along with new maps and Battle.net updates.

If I buy StarCraft II but don't buy any of the expansion sets, will I still be able to play online?
Yes. This will work similarly to Warcraft III and the original StarCraft, which maintained separate online gaming lobbies and ladders for expansion set players and players with the base Warcraft III or StarCraft."

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=11226742562&sid=3000

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

lol faith? dont get me started on faith my man.. err. or woman... well fellow human being.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hell+michigan&aq=f&oq= here is your proof

Enosh88

well there is another entrance in norway:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway

and there is a cave in my country that is caled "pekel" which translated means Hell

link please where Blizzard have said that all the 3 versions will be incompatible multiplayer wise ?naval

"How will the expansion sets impact multiplayer gameplay?
The expansion sets will add new content to each race for use in multiplayer matches. This could include additions such as new units, abilities, and structures, along with new maps and Battle.net updates.

If I buy StarCraft II but don't buy any of the expansion sets, will I still be able to play online?
Yes. This will work similarly to Warcraft III and the original StarCraft, which maintained separate online gaming lobbies and ladders for expansion set players and players with the base Warcraft III or StarCraft."

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=11226742562&sid=3000

lol well like i said in an above post i believe the one right after the one you quoted, as far as multiple hells all across the globe, i wouldnt doubt it one bit.

norway, russia, usa, and im sure there are many many more lol :P

alot of people forget about hellfire... the unofficial expansion to diablo 1. which wasnt even done by blizzard...Lach0121

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]alot of people forget about hellfire... the unofficial expansion to diablo 1. which wasnt even done by blizzard...SpaceMoose

cool, oh i knew that WCII came out first, i was just adding that in lol :P

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

1. They never said they were each going to be $50. Maybe they will be, but that assumption is a bit presumptuous.

2. Apparently people haven't noticed that there is an expansion for every Blizzard game since at least Warcraft II. Now they are telling you ahead of time that there are basically going to be two expansions, and people are griping about it not because there is basically one more "expansion," but because they are doing something different with the structure of the campaigns. I know they aren't technically expansions, but they might as well be. Pretty much everyone who's going to buy them would have bought any expansions for the game anyway. In fact, the only reason Blizzard even said ahead of time that they are doing this, which isn't that much different from their normal business model actually, is that they didn't want to have a bunch of people going, "What the hell?" when they buy Starcraft II and only the Terrans have a campaign.

3. The idea that they are going to do expansions in between these is rather preposterous, especially considering how long Blizzard takes to release anything.

aura_enchanted

its assumed $50 each because WoL IS $50 before preorder.

You may assume that it will be $50, but that's a very poor assumption and it's based off of poor reasoning. It's much more reasonable to look at WC3 and SC and 'assume' that the expansions will be less than the original game.

1. They never said they were each going to be $50. Maybe they will be, but that assumption is a bit presumptuous.

2. Apparently people haven't noticed that there is an expansion for every Blizzard game since at least Warcraft II. Now they are telling you ahead of time that there are basically going to be two expansions, and people are griping about it not because there is basically one more "expansion," but because they are doing something different with the structure of the campaigns. I know they aren't technically expansions, but they might as well be. Pretty much everyone who's going to buy them would have bought any expansions for the game anyway. In fact, the only reason Blizzard even said ahead of time that they are doing this, which isn't that much different from their normal business model actually, is that they didn't want to have a bunch of people going, "What the hell?" when they buy Starcraft II and only the Terrans have a campaign.

3. The idea that they are going to do expansions in between these is rather preposterous, especially considering how long Blizzard takes to release anything.

its assumed $50 each because WoL IS $50 before preorder.

You may assume that it will be $50, but that's a very poor assumption and it's based off of poor reasoning. It's much more reasonable to look at WC3 and SC and 'assume' that the expansions will be less than the original game.

Three reasons:

1. Money.

2. Money.

3. More Money.

Three reasons:

1. Money.

2. Money.

3. More Money.

[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"] you mean 2 thirds of the content missing. that is 66% which is more than half! Congrats, if you buy the game you are letting Blizz bully you as a consumer!TeamR

Well, here's an idea: If you don't think it's worth it, don't buy it and be quiet Seriously, Why are people complaining? Blizzard hasn't even released a price point yet and the internet is in an upROOAARR! Let me ask you something...if Blizzard never release the original starcraft, would you still be complaining about how blizzard is out to get your money? Yeah, I know. A company making money. What a travesty! Blizzard has never steered consumers wrong.

They release quality products and don't milk it nearly as much as other companies. EA Releases a new madden EVERY SINGLE YEAR and nobody says a word. Blizzard could easily milk all those WoW addicts with a new expansion every few months but they don't, they release a huge portion of their new content FOR FREE. How many expansions and adventure packs has EQ2 had? EIGHT!

And now because blizz has a plan to deliver a superior product over 2 expansions instead of 1 people are upset and calling blizzard greedy? That's a crock! Get over it, buy it or don't buy it, but to call Blizzard greedy is ridiculous when they have been one of the generous developers ever. There is NO reason to believe that their sc2 plan isn't genuine and has the best interest of their customers in mind. They always have

Yes, they are greedy and they lied. I just can't believe that in 4 or 5 years of development they couldn't even finish the Terran campaign.