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[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]If that's the case then why is everybody calling that dell system which i customized to be cheap and unreliable cuz it is also an "XPS".Baselerd
Theyre not unreliable, theyre just overpriced. And typically, DELL doesnt use the nicest parts from the nicest vendors for their pc's. They give you value ram with little cheapo xps heatsinks, cheaper brand hdd's, and cheap proprietary mobo's/psu's.
You dont get Corsair memory, or seasonic PSU's. You get cheaper products. That's why dell's so rich. They charge you more than the price of premium hardware and give u cheapo stuff for the most part.
Basically that's the case. Although the XPS line ends up using parts that are a bit better than the average Dell; however, you still won't see high end memory or power supplies in any system. The motherboard, you might see a brand name one in a few XPS systems, but that still doesn't necessarily mean it's a good one.
Like RayvinAzn just said, a big company like Dell basically has assembly-line construction and quality. Small shops and the like are far better as you can custom order your parts but it will still be more expensive simply because you will pay more than the cost of the parts on each part along with labor.
Building your PC in the end, with a little bit of trial and error as you learn, nets you the best quality and price-to-performance ratio.
It's not *personal* computer, unless built for your own specifics needs & demands... And no pre-built system will ever match 100% *your* needs.
That's why I build. I find it fun & entertaining, also.
Eh just for kicks I one up'ed LordEC & Dell
Q6600 2.4GHz - 3 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017
$275A-Bit IP35-E - 3 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127031&Tpk=Abit%2bIP35-E
$90
Crucial Ballistix 4 GB RAM - life time warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148069
$230
Leadtek 8800GT 512GT - 1 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814122040
$265
Western Digital 320 GB 7200RPM SATA2 HD - 3 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136098
$75
Antec Sonata III w/500Watt PSU - 3 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129024
$115
Logitech MX 5000 Wireless KB & MX1000 wireless mouse - 3 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126176
$120
Samsung 20x DVD/CD-ROM RW - 1 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153
$30
Vista Home Premium - 10 year warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116202
$110Notes: You can overclock this :) It has another GB of RAM - high quality RAM I might add - The KB/Mouse are overkill for a comparison build like this, but eh we're gamers - The part content in general is of a higher quality as is the warranty & tech support in most cases. Total is $1310 the added costs is in the mouse/KB & RAM. Oh yeah if it wasn't past 4AM I could have shopped around and came up with a better price.
Case closed ;)
BTW, yes all the crap Dell loads on their computers has a large effect on performance. Last year I bought 3 for customers and they all complained how slow their new computers were. Plus they all complained about all the trial-ware pop-ups, redundant software to the point that I had to reformat the drive an install the OS only. The difference is like night and day.
Krall
and its got the earthwatts 500W PSU which is of good quality
i say /thread.
P.S. the general argument is flawed in that; you are trying to say its "cheaper" to by a pre-built that physically costs more,
yet building your own is cheaper part for part. Come back when you have a real argument.
It's not *personal*computer, unless built for your own specifics needs & demands... And no pre-built system will ever match 100% *your* needs.
That's why I build. I find it fun & entertaining, also.
tomascazzi
I disagree. First off, I have built machines for a long time. The reason I purchased my XPS 630 was that it came out cheaper than if I had bought the parts separately and put them together myself (corporate discount and decade long relationship with Dell). My setup is exactly what I would have put together myself except that it comes with a 4-year complete care warranty. As good as part manufacturers warranties are, I doubt they often do replacements for a spilt drink on the innards of a tower. Additionally, the 630 is overclockable and upgradeable.
Even if I could get a prebuild for the same price I would build it anyway.
Trilvester
Likewise. The cost is just an added benefit ;)
*FLAME FLAME FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!!!!*
Building PCs are cheaper, means you can upgrade them later and know what fits where, and will usually result in a better machine!!!!!! *END FLAME!!!*
(lol)
Why the hell did some ******* idiot bump this thread? THIS THREAD WAS BURIED A LONG TIME AGO, along with Thinker's insane schemes.Angurvadal_88didnt think id hear that name ever again...
,*FLAME FLAME FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!!!!*
Building PCs are cheaper, means you can upgrade them later and know what fits where, and will usually result in a better machine!!!!!! *END FLAME!!!*
(lol)kamikaze_pigmy
Probably because I have it in my sig...
I'll have to remove it now that Thinker is banned.
LordEC911
How do you know he is banned?
I see every second thread on this forum is somebody having a really annoying problem with their build like everything is right but nothing happens and stuff like that which is extremely furstrating.I say is it really worth it over $50 that you can pay to a shop to build it for you?Thinker_145Why do people build their own computers?
How about this: why do people build their own custom cars or motorcycles?
Long answer short: For that personal touch...for the learning experience...for a sense of accomplishment...or simply for the (bleep) of it.
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