Why do you guys like BF3

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#51 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I've also played in a squad with friends using voice chat and such, and its amazing how a single coordinated squad can turn the tide of battle. If this level of teamwork was present by default, this game would be so much more interesting.

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This is how it is in most games I play. Me and my squad tend to turn the tide of the battle more often than not.

There have also been some rush games where if I talked enough, people would do what I say.

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#52 Baranga
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I was watching this scene on Youtube (Sunshine spoilers) and someone mentioned the Battlefield 3 tactical light in the comments. Spot on!

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#53 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

XD yea. Here's skill:

wis3boi

You have a lot of Jet screens yet everytime I play with you, you never get in one :P

someone always beats me to the punch :3

Well you got lots of Jet time today :P Except AA gunned me down too fast

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#54 Zubinen
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

I am still convinced QL is way better, new video just uploaded

I played normal mode and like while it's better, still pretty campsy and getting exploded while driving car simulator. AT mine hell. Still I can see the apeal if you got a group of friends all in one squad throwing c4 at people, sounds like fun BF2. I just don't think without friends it's very fun.

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i see no logic behind comparing an area shooter with no depth to a tactical 64 man team objective game

A small nitpick, but BF3's net code and game design clearly shows that the 64 player limit is rather arbitrary, to the extent where it feels like when MP games are modded to increase the player limit for a given server. But I think people n-chotomize with respect to games a little too much, just go with whatever you enjoy while also striving for an optimal gaming experience(which I think can be best achieved by playing as many games as possible). Arena shooters are at the core of PC MP gaming, they harken back to the days when games didn't have to strive to make everyone playing feel good, but of course it rubs many people the wrong way, and we have to keep in mind, variety, i.e, options for what sort of gaming experiences you can achieve isn't a bad thing.
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#55 KHAndAnime
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I regret buying BF3 - and I didn't even buy it with my own money. It really does lack what made BF2 enjoyable for me - they should've just called this one Bad Company 3.
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#57 JigglyWiggly_
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So I have been playing this game more: Doesn't look that great graphically, the grass really looks bad, Crysis with CCC level 4 looks quite a lot better. Everything is blurry for no reason. FOV of 90 cap? Why? This isn't even that high, I like to have a somewhat high fov in these types of games and then when I right click it warps to like fov 80, again probably casual catering here. Marc5002 was saying this game requires so much skills, he is without a doubt full of crap, especially when he says KDR means how good you are. To get a good KDR in BF3 all you have to do is camp, I was playing conquest this time. Go up to a base just camp there hidden and wait for them to take the flag, you will get an extremely high KDR. Hell KDR is every game does not mean anything(TANGENT HERE if you want to read) [spoiler] Which I think some people here need to understand as well. If you BAIT your teamates(yes this includes CSS, actually especially CSS) you will get a leet KDR. If you play with noobs you will get a leet KDR. To test this I asked him if found my Ql gameplay impressive, he said it was OK but my KDR in one part of my video is 14-10. You might be thinking that's crap eh? WHAT DOES IT MEAN THOUGH? In CA in quake live it's all about points, how much damage you do and even that can sometimes be irrelevent. Also the fact that Quake live only pairs you with people of your skill stops that anyway. If you bait your teamates and wait till the very end while everyone is hurt and finish them off, of course you will have a high KDR. I then showed him my random CSS pics of me having a high KDR and he is impressed by them when I am not at all.    I mean what does this tell you? Anything? Nope not a damn thing [/spoiler] The voices are extremely anoyying. Most of the US soldiers look like they are extremely homosexual, I mean where is the normal soldier who doesn't have BROZ written all over him? There still is no reg you can go headon with someone on a jeep and they just warp somewhere else. If you don't have DLC this game constantly **** you about it. There is no competietiveness in this game, if you camp you will win, or just plant at mines literally everywhere. BF2 is much better than this game because it at least the characters were normal. The voices were normal Didn't cater itself to BROZ gamers. Didn't annoy you to get DLC every 1 second. Actually did feel a bit more balanced as in not just camp to win. Oddly enough this had a lot to do with grenade spamming and a better weapon feel even thoguh the reg was worse. Squads way more organized. YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WITHOUT LOADS OF GLARE I don't know how MW3 mp is, but I have a feeling it is less horrible than this. I loved COD 4 S&D, same for 2 and 1, it was tactical and relatively fast paced. The reg actually worked. It was incredibly balanced, even with perks because the best perks come first. The console gives flexibility for everything. BF3's "console" is a bunch of crap, COD's at least shares almost all the same commands as Quake 3. This game is a dissapoint, I have no idea why you guys like it. BF2 is just better and I am not a huge fan of it, but I can certainly say I like it.
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#58 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]The detail, the scope, the amount of things that happen, and of course - the manshoots. Shame it's a whole lot dumber in terms of team work, tactics and strategy compared to BF2 and 2142, there's just zero tools to do so; really feels like 'my first Call of Battlefield'.

I agree with this, with the 15 or so conquest matches I have played so far, I rarely see people on squad chat, though that isn't the game itself to blame for that obviously. Also the map feels pretty convuluted, like there is too much not important stuff on the huds and stuff and way too big stuff that is obvious.

Nah, it is the games fault tbh. There's zero tools there for squad communication and teamwork. You can only voice talk in an out of game party - which means you're not going to be interacting with the rest of your team. If not, then you have your Q contextual commands, which are janky and ignorable at best for your squad - otherwise you have text chat, which no one pays attention to - because well, it's little text. Compared to BF2 for instance, it's an utter joke, and extremely disappointing. There's just no tools for team coordination compared to those games, there's no camaraderie; it's literally a rabble of men with guns all doing their own thing, with no real teamwork, other than following general objectives and shooting dudes. In short, wow it's bad, and that's DICE's fault to be honest, the previous games did a good job building it up from 1942, and now it has not only been bought back, but been made worse - then a game released in 2002. Ugh. And yeah, there's some horrible maps. A good deal of 64 player conquest maps just don't work, and examples like Metro are quite frankly astounding that it's actually there. HUD has its issues as well. Really is an inconsistent and at the moment, pretty shallow game. Shame because the combat is damn good, and the detail and action is grand.

Yeah, I agree. I feel like this game aims at nothing when it comes to teamwork and tools to encourage that. If I had to rate BF3 on that factor, it would be a 3/10.
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#59 DanielDust
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Speaking of teamwork and coordination, did they include a command to ask for ammo? seriously how incompetent can you be not to include a command for such a thing, you have for med packs, but not ammo...but OH wait, no they're awesome, you can just rush a guy with ammo and press a button to ask for ammo directly to him, if not, hey, you can just tail him till he decides to stop and let you press that button, unless he dies, then you're f.....

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#60 -CheeseEater-
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Jiggly I think you should try CoD4 Promod. Makes the game a hell of a lot more fun.
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#61 JigglyWiggly_
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Jiggly I think you should try CoD4 Promod. Makes the game a hell of a lot more fun.-CheeseEater-
Oh I've played it. It's pretty good but I like stock COD4 S&D more, it's faster paced. Though I won't mind playing either. I must say Promod tries to be CSS a bit too much, so I rather just play CSS.

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#62 CCpotter
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I mean, I just got it and the SP is so bad and a black ops rip off

The MP is a camp fest, I played rush and TDM

No leaning still?

Reg is still kinda iffy

Lacks the cooolness of BF2

Oh and did I mention it's a camp fest? Like in CSS camping while it kindove works depending on the situation won't let you win. Quake obviously it won't work, you won't have control of the map.

So why you guys play this? Much better games like CSS, CS, Quake Live are there. And well obviously BF2.

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Who told you i love it? COD is the only goddess in my heart