Why does Stalker: Call of Pripyat look so dated?

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#1 BluRayHiDef
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The game came out in 2009, but it looks like it came out in 2005. Why? I bought the game on Steam yesterday, and I expected it to look at least as good as Metro 2033, since it's a DX 11 game, but it doesn't compare at all. Why is this?

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#2 millerlight89
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Let me guess, you are still in the first area? If so, then continue playing it.
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#3 BluRayHiDef
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Let me guess, you are still in the first area? If so, then continue playing it.millerlight89

Is there going to be some phenomenal increase in graphics quality?

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#4 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Let me guess, you are still in the first area? If so, then continue playing it.BluRayHiDef

Is there going to be some phenomenal increase in graphics quality?

The first area looks really washed out, I mean it is a dried up lake. So I mean, it is understandable. The other areas, especially Pripyat look pretty good.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Let me guess, you are still in the first area? If so, then continue playing it.BluRayHiDef

Is there going to be some phenomenal increase in graphics quality?

basically. Yes.
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#6 Qixote
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Because it is still based on the original Stalker game engine, and Stalker started development about 8 years ago.

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#7 SF_KiLLaMaN
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The game came out in 2009, but it looks like it came out in 2005. Why? I bought the game on Steam yesterday, and I expected it to look at least as good as Metro 2033, since it's a DX 11 game, but it doesn't compare at all. Why is this?

BluRayHiDef

because 1. GSC is not a big time developer with millions of dollars at their disposal. 2. the game doesn't look that bad, it actually has some of the best lighting I have ever seen in a video game. 3. Metro 2033 is a linear shooter while STALKER CoP is a semi-open world game. Like other said, after the first area the visuals get much better. Wait until the CoP Complete mod comes out, then it will look amazing.

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#8 millerlight89
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I mean, what is so bad about them? I mean certain areas look buddy, but isn't that how a drying lake bed looks? It may not be the "best" looking game, but I don't think it warrants a thread on it.
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

The game came out in 2009, but it looks like it came out in 2005. Why? I bought the game on Steam yesterday, and I expected it to look at least as good as Metro 2033, since it's a DX 11 game, but it doesn't compare at all. Why is this?

SF_KiLLaMaN

because 1. GSC is not a big time developer with millions of dollars at their disposal. 2. the game doesn't look that bad, it actually has some of the best lighting I have ever seen in a video game. 3. Metro 2033 is a linear shooter while STALKER CoP is a semi-open world game. Like other said, after the first area the visuals get much better. Wait until the CoP Complete mod comes out, then it will look amazing.

Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset.

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#10 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

The game came out in 2009, but it looks like it came out in 2005. Why? I bought the game on Steam yesterday, and I expected it to look at least as good as Metro 2033, since it's a DX 11 game, but it doesn't compare at all. Why is this?

BluRayHiDef

because 1. GSC is not a big time developer with millions of dollars at their disposal. 2. the game doesn't look that bad, it actually has some of the best lighting I have ever seen in a video game. 3. Metro 2033 is a linear shooter while STALKER CoP is a semi-open world game. Like other said, after the first area the visuals get much better. Wait until the CoP Complete mod comes out, then it will look amazing.

Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset.

Because it looks worse than Metro 2033 and doesn't have leading edge technology? My lord. You should of gifted them to someone who would actually appreciate a great game series.
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

The game came out in 2009, but it looks like it came out in 2005. Why? I bought the game on Steam yesterday, and I expected it to look at least as good as Metro 2033, since it's a DX 11 game, but it doesn't compare at all. Why is this?

BluRayHiDef

because 1. GSC is not a big time developer with millions of dollars at their disposal. 2. the game doesn't look that bad, it actually has some of the best lighting I have ever seen in a video game. 3. Metro 2033 is a linear shooter while STALKER CoP is a semi-open world game. Like other said, after the first area the visuals get much better. Wait until the CoP Complete mod comes out, then it will look amazing.

Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset.

shouldnt the value be judged on how the game is instead of whether it looks like the next coming of christ or not?

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] because 1. GSC is not a big time developer with millions of dollars at their disposal. 2. the game doesn't look that bad, it actually has some of the best lighting I have ever seen in a video game. 3. Metro 2033 is a linear shooter while STALKER CoP is a semi-open world game. Like other said, after the first area the visuals get much better. Wait until the CoP Complete mod comes out, then it will look amazing.

millerlight89

Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset.

Because it looks worse than Metro 2033 and doesn't have leading edge technology? My lord. You should of gifted them to someone who would actually appreciate a great game series.

It's not only that it looks worse than Metro 2033; it doesn't even look as good as Left for Dead 2 (that says a lot). Also, the game is pretty damn weird. There was this part where I went into this cave, and there was this odd looking humanoid creature that made strange gestures with its hands. Very weird.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] because 1. GSC is not a big time developer with millions of dollars at their disposal. 2. the game doesn't look that bad, it actually has some of the best lighting I have ever seen in a video game. 3. Metro 2033 is a linear shooter while STALKER CoP is a semi-open world game. Like other said, after the first area the visuals get much better. Wait until the CoP Complete mod comes out, then it will look amazing.

millerlight89

Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset.

Because it looks worse than Metro 2033 and doesn't have leading edge technology? My lord. You should of gifted them to someone who would actually appreciate a great game series.

I couldn't have said it any better. :D

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It's not only that it looks worse than Metro 2033; it doesn't even look as good as Left for Dead 2 (that says a lot). Also, the game is pretty damn weird. There was this part where I went into this cave, and there was this odd looking humanoid creature that made strange gestures with its hands. Very weird.

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The controller messes with your head, that's the gestures. Weird? It is Sci-Fi, were you expecting realism?

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

It's not only that it looks worse than Metro 2033; it doesn't even look as good as Left for Dead 2 (that says a lot). Also, the game is pretty damn weird. There was this part where I went into this cave, and there was this odd looking humanoid creature that made strange gestures with its hands. Very weird.

millerlight89

The controller messes with your head, that's the gestures. Weird? It is Sci-Fi, were you expecting realism?

It's got nothing to do with realism, but with **** The ****is very strange. For example, Metro 2033 is Sci-Fi, but it doesn't have weird things like that. Anyhow, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but just that it's weird.

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#16 millerlight89
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t's got nothing to do with realism, but with **** The ****is very strange. For example, Metro 2033 is Sci-Fi, but it doesn't have weird things like that. Anyhow, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but just that it's weird.

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Stalker has weird parts, but Metro doesn't? Hmmm ok. Never said you said it was a bad thing, but you bringing it up while nitpicking the graphics makes it seem that way.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

It's not only that it looks worse than Metro 2033; it doesn't even look as good as Left for Dead 2 (that says a lot). Also, the game is pretty damn weird. There was this part where I went into this cave, and there was this odd looking humanoid creature that made strange gestures with its hands. Very weird.

BluRayHiDef

The controller messes with your head, that's the gestures. Weird? It is Sci-Fi, were you expecting realism?

It's got nothing to do with realism, but with **** The ****is very strange. For example, Metro 2033 is Sci-Fi, but it doesn't have weird things like that. Anyhow, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but just that it's weird.

Metro has plenty of wierd things, read the book the game was based off of. There is a pile of goo under the kremlin that mind controls people.

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#18 yellosnolvr
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so like...all the weird little cutscene thingies on metro 2033 werent weird to you but the controller attacking you is? :P anyways. it doesn't look as good as other games, big deal. its not a bad game though, so please dont judge it on graphical detail.
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Or in metro the cult of strange looking people who's station got cut off and they began believing that the world was made by a Giant Worm that formed the tunnels. There the scene where Artyom's buddy gets stabbed by a librarian and that somehow means that the librarian can now make the buddy speak for him like that alien from Independence day.
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It's not only that it looks worse than Metro 2033; it doesn't even look as good as Left for Dead 2 (that says a lot). Also, the game is pretty damn weird. There was this part where I went into this cave, and there was this odd looking humanoid creature that made strange gestures with its hands. Very weird.

BluRayHiDef

Go play the game completely then judge what you think after it. As of now, your feelings are a bit off base as you are judging a game by a small portion of it. Play through it, beat it... Form a opinion.. Go download the Stalker complete mod (prob give most of the "graphics" you want).. Play it again and then give a overall feeling of the game.

Weird? All games have something offbase at times. Thats part of the jello. Just enjoy it. Enjoy the game for what it is and you might be in for a surprise. Never judge a game by its beginning but by its whole.

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as the others said, keep playing, but unlike what the others said, you will only catch glimpses of how good it can look at the second area, the 3rd however is marvelous.

The game aces with all kinds of light and shadow, places that has no real light or shadow never looked too good in stalker, it is an old engine afterall.

Gameplaywise there is however very little that can match stalker, it is not a dumbed down fps game, nor does it hold your hand and make sure you survive.

it is likely the last real FPS game released in a long time where if the player screwes up, he WILL die, if he is careless, he WILL die, and if he thinks the gamerules does not apply to him, but only the opponants, he WILL die.

I think that is what I love so about that game, the ai and that the devs saw the players of people who could think for themselves, anot not be told what to do, not have a small corridor they were always being led through because they were too dumb to nagivate.

Interiors and the city areas looks quite good, aswell as thunderstorms, but yeah the first area looks fairly bad, even worse then SOC in some ways.

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I find it disgusting that you base the quality of a game on the graphical presentation. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
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#23 BluRayHiDef
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I find it disgusting that you base the quality of a game on the graphical presentation. Ignorance is bliss I guess.theafiguy

Wow. All I did was judge the game's graphics. I never said anything about it being an overall bad game because of it. I don't know what gave you that impression. I guess a person can't judge the graphics of a game without people mistaking their judgement as being directed toward the entire game, even though that may not be the case.

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#26 theafiguy
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Nope. Simple misinterpretation. My brain calculated a few sentences as red alert style stupid, but yea. I re-read it. My bad. Still though, CoP isn't necessarily an ugly game. It's just really bland in terms of colors and the textures aren't the greatest, but I think the colors work for the game.
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The graphics do look a bit dated in parts such as how the Crashed Helicopters look etc ,but STALKER has always been about the lighting for me. I havent seen a game that can touch it in terms of Lighting. When you are out in the wilderness and there is a storm going down and you can only see when the lightning strikes is pretty awsome. I didnt think that Metro33 looked outstanding in anycase.
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. I don't know what gave you that impression.

BluRayHiDef

I would assume it was this statement: "Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset."

At which point it would be easy to assume that because the graphics did not meet metro's standards you believed the game was not worth full price. It would actually be very hard to interpret otherwise.

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#29 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]. I don't know what gave you that impression.

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I would assume it was this statement: "Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset."

At which point it would be easy to assume that because the graphics did not meet metro's standards you believed the game was not worth full price. It would actually be very hard to interpret otherwise.

Well, even if a game is great, but has bad graphics, I'd be regretful if I paid a lot for it. The bad graphics should automatically lessen the price.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]. I don't know what gave you that impression.

BluRayHiDef

I would assume it was this statement: "Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset."

At which point it would be easy to assume that because the graphics did not meet metro's standards you believed the game was not worth full price. It would actually be very hard to interpret otherwise.

Well, even if a game is great, but has great graphics, I'd be regretful if I paid a lot for it. The bad graphics should automatically lessen the price.

I think it was taken out of context. I would say the same thing if I liked the gameplay but hated the graphics. Or, beautiful graphics but crappy gameplay and unplayable parts. That's just how I am. Certain games have passable graphics though, that others would deem hideous. I play games dated as back as 2002 and I'm fine with that. Depends on the game.
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I would just wait for the complete mod to come out. I played the game for a few hours before I decide to hold off, there some impressive textures on buildings and whatnot, but it does look dated overall.

It also looks and runs worse than clear sky with the complete mod.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]. I don't know what gave you that impression.

BluRayHiDef

I would assume it was this statement: "Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset."

At which point it would be easy to assume that because the graphics did not meet metro's standards you believed the game was not worth full price. It would actually be very hard to interpret otherwise.

Well, even if a game is great, but has bad graphics, I'd be regretful if I paid a lot for it. The bad graphics should automatically lessen the price.

it's your problem. i'd pay more from Stalker title than Metro 2033 any day.

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#33 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

I would assume it was this statement: "Well, it's a good thing that I only paid $5.00 for it and the other Stalker game that it came with. If I had paid full price, I'd be very upset."

At which point it would be easy to assume that because the graphics did not meet metro's standards you believed the game was not worth full price. It would actually be very hard to interpret otherwise.

groowagon

Well, even if a game is great, but has bad graphics, I'd be regretful if I paid a lot for it. The bad graphics should automatically lessen the price.

it's your problem. i'd pay more from Stalker title than Metro 2033 any day.

Bad graphics should never lessen the price.. crappy games should lessen in price.
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Dudes, this guy has obviously never played a STALKER game. STALKER games = pure hardcore s****.
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Dudes, this guy has obviously never played a STALKER game. STALKER games = pure hardcore s****.dangamit

The game is hideous and lame. I just got into a shoot out. It was the lamest and most non-immersive experience I've had this generation. Absolute rubbish.

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yeah the game does look kinda meh, but its pretty fun. Tried using mods, but the game kept crashing on me :(

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The game is not ment to be played like a COD or a Half Life game. So yes, if you try to playit like a COD game, it will suck.

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#39 Elann2008
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The guy that posted the screenshot pretty much sums it up. It's suppose to look drab. I suggest that people who is interested in the series, research the locations. It's actually a very interesting read. And be sure to check out the one episode of Destination Truth where they visit Chernobyl. Awesome show. :D
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The game is not ment to be played like a COD or a Half Life game. So yes, if you try to playit like a COD game, it will suck.

dangamit

Who said that I was trying to play it like a COD or Half Life game? Nobody. Just because someone has a bad experience with this game doesn't mean that they're playing it incorrectly (if that's even possible :roll: ). It just means that they don't like the game. Sometimes it seems very difficult for some people to accept that not everyone enjoys a particular game. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Stalker isn't all that and a bag of chips. It's not even an empty bag of chips.

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1. The engine is really old. Ever played SoC or Clear Sky? basically the same engine, and it was old when SoC first came out in 2007. They've done a lot to keep it looking good.

2. Does it really look that bad to you? the draw distance isn't great and the weapon and character models are somewhat mediocre, but the lighting is incredible.

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1. The engine is really old. Ever played SoC or Clear Sky? basically the same engine, and it was old when SoC first came out in 2007. They've done a lot to keep it looking good.

2. Does it really look that bad to you? the draw distance isn't great and the weapon and character models are somewhat mediocre, but the lighting is incredible.

Brendissimo35

Good lighting does not hide the horrible textures and bad draw distance. They're both still very very noticeable.

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[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

1. The engine is really old. Ever played SoC or Clear Sky? basically the same engine, and it was old when SoC first came out in 2007. They've done a lot to keep it looking good.

2. Does it really look that bad to you? the draw distance isn't great and the weapon and character models are somewhat mediocre, but the lighting is incredible.

BluRayHiDef

Good lighting does not hide the horrible textures and bad draw distance. They're both still very very noticeable.

It seems to for every reviewer who's looked at a multiplat this gen...

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#44 Silicel1
Member since 2005 • 2342 Posts

Dont know whats the problem with the game, play SoC, then play CS and then CoP(although you could leave CS for last it has some bugs). The game looks great(doesn't have latest in effects but the nights with lightning are beautiful), I played through Soc like 10 time then moded it to extreme and played it ten times more, CS played it about 5-7 times(saveing very often is the key) although never tried mods on it. No tesselation here buddy!!!

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#45 PernicioEnigma
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People can bash the Stalker series all they want, Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl still remains as one of my favorite games.
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#46 Animatronic64
Member since 2010 • 3971 Posts

Because you're too damn BluRayHiDef. If you lower your graphical standards a little bit, you might not be asking this question.

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#47 mo0ksi
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Yeah it's not much of a looker. By the time Call of Pripyat was released, the X-Ray engine simply lost its flair. The lighting is still great, but everything else just looks rather flat, and on occasion it's just downright ugly. But it's a good game regardless.
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#48 nutcrackr
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Metro 2033 looks better because its a hyper linear indoor game that last around 7 hours. Expecting CoP to look as good was your first mistake. Call of Pripyat is a good enough looking game from the lighting to the visual anomalies and it runs a heck of a lot better than Metro 2033 does.
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#49 yourmajesty90
Member since 2006 • 1420 Posts

I never cared about the graphics, really. For me, it was the gameplay, the free-roam and all those side-quests that really got me into the game. I love the emphasis on the survival and you have to save ammo and useful items on your inventory. The scavenging of artifacts is quite satisfactory too.

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#50 KHAndAnime
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Funny, I thought Call of Pripyat was one of the best looking games to come out in 2010.