Why people think PC gaming is dieing?

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#1 funnybunny12
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I think PC gaming will come out on top. The PC doesn't you require you to buy an entirely new system when new, more advanced stuff comes out. All you have to do is upgrade some parts, which is, in most cases, a LOT cheaper than buying a new gaming system. Plus, I think the mouse and keyboard are easier gaming tools to use than wireless controllers and analog sticks... PC gaming also has a better life to it.

Say you have a console and a PC. They have the same game on each thing and equally kickass graphics... Would you rather be sitting a few feet away from a computer monitor, or four times that distance away from a television. Plus, you can upgrade your speakers to get awesome sound quality and stuff. Are you just going to go buy a new TV every time you want better sound quality..? NO! And even if you have a huge HD big screen TV, wouldn't you rather have all of the action right in front of you..?

I just think it is stupid that people think PC gaming is slowly dieing. I think PC gaming is better! The only reason I haven't been playing PC games is that my old computer sucked (It couldn't even play BF1942...). Now I am getting a new computer and I want to start getting into PC gaming. Plus, I am getting closer to the age where I can get a job in a few years. So I can buy upgrades and games and pay for MMOs and stuff whenever I want. So I will slowly etch out handheld gaming (Only games I played besides PS1... 0.0' Only console I have...) and slowly moving into PC gaming...

Obsolete in the next generation or two of gameing consoles? I don't think so. But I think that soon, PC technology will be far more advance than console technology... I think PC gaming will be number 1 in the future...

EDIT: Don'y worry... I correct myself in later posts...
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#2 Muhannad_basic
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PC gaming has its ups and downs, once new technology based games come PC games will go to the top, so we are really waiting for DX10 games like Crysis, UT2007, Halo 2 and others that will bring PC gaming back. I have a 360 and a PS3 and almost all of the times am playing pc games.
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#3 Lonelynight
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I agree PC gaming is better then console gaming
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#4 BloodMist
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There's always tons of great PC games being released all the time.When people try to say it's dying i just laugh.And no, the consoles really don't get any more truly well made games than the PC does.They just get mostly a lotta crap and rehashed sports games all the time for the most part.
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#5 User10293
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A lot of console gamers are just ignorant and think that just because consoles are more popular than PCs, PC gaming must be dying out and that upgrades are a new invention or something and that's causing people to abandon PC gaming. The only advantage that consoles have is that they're easy to use. They're not even cheaper in the long run. In a few months PC games are going to leap ahead of console graphics(gameplay for PC has always been better) and will stay ahead for the next 4-5 years.
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#6 1Lonehawk
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Before this thread becomes yet "another" system wars thread people have to realize one thing. It's a personal preference thing. Simple as that. One plays on the platform one enjoys games on more. If you like your games on a big screen with a controller with your friend sitting beside you to play against, I'm guessing you "prefer" consoles. If you like a mouse and keyboard better, online play and the ability to type stuff etc, I'm guessing you "prefer" a PC.

The debate could go on and on but it comes down to what people prefer that's all. Niether is really better, they are just a bit different. And different strokes for different folks right?

Personally, I prefer the PC just because it's an "all in wonder pro" (pardon the pun). It can play games AND a whole bunch of other stuff too. I like the keyboard and mouse for controls as well. But I don't go ranting about that the PC pwns a console.

PC gaming will NEVER die because more and more people are buying PCs. It's just logical that a percentage of these new PC buyers will play games on their PCs as well. I don't think console gaming will die either. More and more people are buying "home-theatre/entertainment" systems and it's logical that a percentage of them will like to play games on those systems.

So, neither will die, neither is better. They are just different. Just because a person likes one over the other, doesn't make it better, just better for that one.

Peace and God bless to ya all. :D
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#7 accord100
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The only people who think PC gaming is dieing are the fanboys/ignorant fanboys. This isn't even a real issue. It's just a couple of fanboys starting those threads to get some attention. They're blind to what the PC is capable of. It's their lost.
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#8 hypnotoad8128
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PC gaming is far from dying. It always has and always will be the superior gaming platform for one reason. Technolgy upgrades. Sure when a console is released it gets all the attention. But it's technnology is stuck at the level until the next console (generally 5 years) PC's evolve and move forward which always keeps it superior in the long run. Also the PC has a much more diverse range of games also compared to consoles.
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#9 GeryGo
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idk why people think PC gaming is dying , i prefer to wait 2-3 months for great game than to wait every 2 weeks for another crappy childish console game
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#10 easteast
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I don't think PC gaming is even close to dying. It's still alive and well, IMO.
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#11 wizdom
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I think PC gaming will come out on top. The PC doesn't you require you to buy an entirely new system when new, more advanced stuff comes out Your freaking kidding right?? Sersiouly you have no clue what you are talking about if you think PC gaming is cheaper then console gaming, You have to upgrade your system every 2-3 years and you end up spending tons of money on it, your opinion is full of lie's and come's off and being bias which most PC gamers are these days, Now with that all said and done.. PC gaming isn't dying at all, but come its cheaper then console gaming your kidding right?? It would cost you 1000-1500 to get a PC to run Crysis and some of the other great games comming out this year, so don't give me that nonsense about how cheap PC gaming is, because its isn't.
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#12 BloodMist
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I think PC gaming will come out on top. The PC doesn't you require you to buy an entirely new system when new, more advanced stuff comes out Your freaking kidding right?? Sersiouly you have no clue what you are talking about if you think PC gaming is cheaper then console gaming, You have to upgrade your system every 2-3 years and you end up spending tons of money on it, your opinion is full of lie's and come's off and being bias which most PC gamers are these days, Now with that all said and done.. PC gaming isn't dying at all, but come its cheaper then console gaming your kidding right?? It would cost you 1000-1500 to get a PC to run Crysis and some of the other great games comming out this year, so don't give me that nonsense about how cheap PC gaming is, because its isn't.wizdom
Maybe so but nowadays console gaming isn't exactly the cheapest thing, you can pay 300-600 dollars for just one console, and then in order to take full advantage of it, you need to buy an HDTV as well, which will cost at least a thousand for a good one.The only exception being the Wii of course, which is one of the reasons why it's so successful.
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#13 MyopicCanadian
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I think the reasons you listed are very poor reasons as to why PC gaming is "good." Upgrades are NOT a lot cheaper than a system, considering a 360 is 400 dollars. Your second paragraph is all preference and can be done on either system (I have my 360 set up to my PC monitor), and I have no idea why you would need to purchase a new TV to upgrade your speakers. That one's interesting. So to answer your question, no, you're not convincing at all. I think the key factors as to why console gaming is becoming more popular is ease of use and excellent pick up and play type of games. Most of the top-rated games that have come out since Summer 2006 cater to more of a niche market - e.g., GTR 2 and Supreme Commander, which is tough to compete against games like Gears of War and Call of Duty 3. Anyway, you're just limiting yourself if you're a PC fanboy. There are good games on all systems :)
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#14 ComplexicLife
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Game development for the PC will continue to persist as far as the gaming industry as a whole exists. There is still a respectable market in the world where people will buy these games and keep developers and publishers in business. Besides, both sides have strengths and weaknesses. Everyone has their preferences with what they want in a game and a system that runs them. Personally, I prefer the moddability of PC games quite a lot. That, and since I use the PC for more than gaming, might as well get good PC parts while I am at it. In any case, anyone who claims the PC game market is dying is full of assumptions. Besides, unless they give well proven researched data about the trends in sales of PC games as a whole that show strong support to show there is a strong decay, then they are completely full of it. Sadly, a lot of people pull assumptions out of their heads based on what they read from other posters as well as from logic that is not backed by any hard proof. Logic can't stand on its own easily. I am simply amazed how a lot of people act as if they are experts about what goes on about game development based on ill based conclusions when they never worked a day in the gaming industry in their lives. When it comes down to cost between consoles and a PC, that gap is closing like others have mentioned. Especially since competition has increased in the market, we're seeing new consoles released more frequently than in the past. That means consoles become "obselete" sooner and due to all the hype and other things, people rush out to buy the latest and greatest consoles. Though I wonder how many people buy more than one console. In the end, it comes down to personal taste and personal perception on what would be the best choice for each individual.
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#15 godofratz
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PC Gaming is a tough world to be hang in because we are always having to upgrade, overclock, and tweak our systems to make the money we put into our computers last. Its neither cheap, practical, or easy to manage. A new piece of hardware comes out every month and if its good we try to figure out is its going to be compatible with our systems, wondering if we can afford it, wondering if its even worth buying in the first place. Its more of a headache for us and developers, but a price we must pay to have better gameplay.

Consoles are extremely popular because they know what they are getting when they buy it. They have the same configuration for the most part and you only have to worry about accessories. This makes it easy for gamers and developers, just a more attractive to an audience.

You'll have to admit that being, or not being, user-friendly has an effect on who will play your game. New gamers are intimidated by the PC and complications, its just simplier to pick up a Wii instead. So, yes, this can effect PC gaming but it will not kill it. PC gaming has been around for a very very long time and isn't going away. Although, I feel the PC industry has to learn from consoles and figure out a more user-friendly way, either through more standards or less hardware.

Its kinda funny, I remember walking into an EB games store around 1992-4. PC games had a HUGE wall filled with games. Now, we are limited to a little two shelf display, one labeled new releases, the other bargins. Everything else in EB is all console junk. Pretty soon we'll lose that display too. Then we'll have to whisper a secret code to the saleperson that would lead us "around back" to some shady looking guy in a trenchcoat with PC games underneath.

 
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#16 _Harkov_
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I don't think PC gaming is dieing even though a few genres we just don't see anymore. Oh where oh where has my Tie fighter/xwing or mechwarrior games gone... I can't remember the last time I needed a joystick to play a game outside of MSFS.

Consoles on the other hand have left thier evil prints on PC games. Games that are designed with the notion of multiplateform releases are usually very weak. It almost seems like the PC versions are done as an afterthought because it will prolly sell the minority of the sales. Games like Call of Duty really fell from grace as FPS. Oblivion is a great game but the standard interface makes me vomit. It's begining to be a common trend now a days and the quality of some games have gone way down I feel because of this. Thankfully games like Civ, Total War, and the like will never be feasible on consoles because of controller issues.


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#17 mrbojangles25
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People think PC gaming is dieing because console gaming is growing.

Its that simple.  The quality of games hasnt changed, as there are still many junk titles and many good titles just like for the past decades, and technology is always surpassing consoles on a yearly, if not monthly, basis.  Not to mention the whole online gaming community is still dominated by the PC (Resistance: Fall of Man has 40-person multiplayer, and the Sony boys were stoked about that lol).

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#18 _deadrat
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Game 9102 over at gamefaqs orginally posted this information and I think it fits this topix well.

Across two separate lectures at this week's Game Developers Conference, id Software CEO Todd Hollenshead and Epic Games president Michael Capps both admitted that piracy of PC games caused their companies to pursue developing beyond the PC platform. "Piracy has pushed id as being multiplatform," stated Hollenshead, whose company contracted Z-Axis to handle the PlayStation 3 version and Nerve Software the Xbox 360 edition of Splash Damage's forthcoming Enemy Territory: Quake Wars (PC).

Comments made by Epic's Capps carried a similar tone. "PC Gaming is really falling apart," he revealed. "It killed us to make Unreal Tournament 3 cross-platform, but Epic had to do it", adding "the market that would buy a $600 video card knows how Bittorrent works." Epic is currently developing Unreal Tournament 3 for the PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in-house.

Meanwhile, Firaxis designer and programmer Soren Johnson remained confident in PC development. He suggested that "game design on the PC is going to bend toward persistence," noting Blizzard's World of Warcraft is "successful because you can't pirate WoW. You cannot pirate an MMO. Period."

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/46079

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#19 funnybunny12
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I don't think it is a matter of what you peffer at all. I think it is about the future and what will be the best, and what will be obsolete. I know that online gaming is blowing up on consoles and people love online games and shooters. But for consoles, you pretty much need a computer to play online. Why play online games on a console when you have a PC already... And it might cost more to buy the upgrades and everything, but upgrades are better than just having the same thing all the time... I'm not trying to start a big flame war or whatever. I just don't see why people think consoles will be the best gaming systems in the end. Even if PC gaming is not the future of gaming. Maybe they should keep racers/sports games on consoles where they work best, and MMO/RPGs, shooters, and everything else on computer where they belong. It is just a matter of what works best with what.
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#20 monco59
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No offense, but your post is pretty dumb. It is filled with reasons that don't help validate PC gaming at all. For example, you say that PC gaming is cheaper. It's actually a whole lot pricier, with the consumer having to upgrade often to be able to play new games. You also say that it's better to sit in front of your monitor than play in front of a TV because the TV is farther. And NO, you don't buy a new TV everytime you wish to upgrade your sound system. You do realize surround sound systems can be hooked to a TV, so you don't have to use the built-in speakers? That was the most pathetic argument I've heard all day.

I love PC gaming, but you just managed to point out everything that is WRONG with PC gaming, not the opposite. Why not list some facts that actually show how the PC is a good gaming platform? Like FPS's and RTS's are easily the most natural fits on the PC. Or how the PC gets many exciting exclusives, many of which will never see a console release? Or the online community and modding? And how, in a year, PC's will blow out all the consoles graphically?

In the end though, it all comes down to choice, and even you can't deny that even though I saw you try...

As for why people say PC gaming is dying? It happens every time a new console generation rolls around, a lot of talk pops up about how PC gaming is going the way of the dodo. But you know what? It's still going as strong as ever! Sure, it has it's ups and downs, slow times and transitional periods. But it always manages to come out on top...
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Its kinda funny, I remember walking into an EB games store around 1992-4. PC games had a HUGE wall filled with games. Now, we are limited to a little two shelf display, one labeled new releases, the other bargins. Everything else in EB is all console junk. Pretty soon we'll lose that display too. Then we'll have to whisper a secret code to the saleperson that would lead us "around back" to some shady looking guy in a trenchcoat with PC games underneath.

 godofratz

Ah, I miss those days. Everytime a new game is announced now, I'm disappointed when I see Xbox360, PS3, and Wii, but no PC.

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I think PC gaming will come out on top. The PC doesn't you require you to buy an entirely new system when new, more advanced stuff comes out. All you have to do is upgrade some parts, which is, in most cases, a LOT cheaper than buying a new gaming system. Plus, I think the mouse and keyboard are easier gaming tools to use than wireless controllers and analog sticks... PC gaming also has a better life to it.

Say you have a console and a PC. They have the same game on each thing and equally kickass graphics... Would you rather be sitting a few feet away from a computer monitor, or four times that distance away from a television. Plus, you can upgrade your speakers to get awesome sound quality and stuff. Are you just going to go buy a new TV every time you want better sound quality..? NO! And even if you have a huge HD big screen TV, wouldn't you rather have all of the action right in front of you..?

I just think it is stupid that people think PC gaming is slowly dieing. I think PC gaming is better! The only reason I haven't been playing PC games is that my old computer sucked (It couldn't even play BF1942...). Now I am getting a new computer and I want to start getting into PC gaming. Plus, I am getting closer to the age where I can get a job in a few years. So I can buy upgrades and games and pay for MMOs and stuff whenever I want. So I will slowly etch out handheld gaming (Only games I played besides PS1... 0.0' Only console I have...) and slowly moving into PC gaming...

Obsolete in the next generation or two of gameing consoles? I don't think so. But I think that soon, PC technology will be far more advance than console technology... I think PC gaming will be number 1 in the future...
funnybunny12

PC gaming has it's advantages when it comes to some FPS games and RTS but anything else i prefer to play on a console. Sports, fighting, racing and platform games are all better on the console imo. The only game I play on my PC is Battlefield. I just wish they would make more games like Battlefield because all the other FPS games are same old same old.

I think PC gaming is slowly dying and I doubt they make much money from it unless it's a MMO. WHen you go to the store there are so few PC titles on the shelves even though the PC gets a crap load of games every week. Too bad 99.9% of them are console rejects.

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#23 fieryfood_dude
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 IMO, there is way too much negativity in the pc gaming community. To much complaining about GFW, DX10, and Vista. Ranting on how consoles are ruining the pc gaming experience.
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#24 Ryan_Gaston
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I agree that PC gaming is better and i agree to the guy that said console vs. PC gaming is a preference...

but it's a fact that PC's can play all games at one point or another... thanks to emulators and usb ports for game controllers, pc gamers can play console games since atari and play fast games that need a controller like Ninja gaiden...

PC gamers have access to games from action -> strategies -> MMORPG, as do consoles... however... game developers have had a difficult time getting great RTS games onto consoles due to its lack of buttons, yes i know you can get keyboards for some consoles but the RTS for consoles don't use that anyway... at least not from my experience...

PC has games like Warhammer, Company of Heroes, Starcraft *lol good times*, Supreme Commander, the Total War games, and many many other RTS that are remarkable... the interface for these types of games is just much better as compared to what you could do on a console mostly due to not having a mouse or enough buttons for all the functions, and when there is an RTS on a console it doesn't amount to anything spectactular (from my experience that is)...  such as Goblin Commander ( don't get me wrong, it was fun, but... not something to rave about...)

However, XBOX does have the "Kingdom Under Fire" games, which are by all means awesome (not to mention highly challenging)... but that game playes out as more of an action game with plenty of strategy influence...

Consoles also have the strategy RPGs though, which are awesome .. such as FF Tactics, Front MIssion, Shining Force, Disgaea... etc etc... but, they aren't RTS, which is what my point is...

PC games have access to all genres of games and all of the games can be played with a nice interface thanks to the keyboard and mouse and usb ports for controllers if needed, not to mention flight yokes (i think that's what they're called) for flight sims and space games like X3, Privateer, etc... ^^ (not sure if consoles have flight yokes that can be used, of course they have analog sticks but it's not the same)...

in my opinion, PC gaming is better due to this...

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I blame message boards.
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#26 SR_Caveman
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There are some very good points here. But you all should also consider the Developer/Publisher standpoint. I won't talk about our games or anyone else's games but rather the industry as a whole.

Consider some of these points:

1. MMOs: There are about 10 million MMO players in Europe and NA that buy far fewer (if any) games than they once did (note: WoW has 8 million but 3 million of them are Chinese).
2. Piracy: The ratio of bought games to stolen games is much better in consoles.
3. Expectations: There is a higher ratio of casual gamers to hardcore gamers in consoles. Hardcore gamers have higher expectations and demands which leads to higher production costs.
4. Customers: There are more console customers than PC customers.

All four of these points affect the amount of money a company has to reinvest in future projects.

Now that doesn't spell the end of PC gaming. I don't fancy predicting the future myself so I won't go there. But its obvious which market looks more rosey to a company looking to make games and sell them.
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#27 Samulies
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Crysis, everyone will come around about Q3 this year :D
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#28 Staryoshi87
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I think PC gaming will come out on top. The PC doesn't you require you to buy an entirely new system when new, more advanced stuff comes out. All you have to do is upgrade some parts, which is, in most cases, a LOT cheaper than buying a new gaming system. funnybunny12
That's why I'm spending 1800 on a new rig? Hah, in no way is it cheaper. It's also losing some of its key unique features. ex. Online play, media stuff, etc. That said, it does still offer more than a console and unlimited customizability. It's more annoying in that it takes months, not years, to become outdated though. I fear for my E6600....I love both console and PC gaming myself.
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#29 nevereathim
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I like PC games best, because in my opinion it's the most "compatible" system. A lot of good games for consoles go there, my only problem is if you get a bad computer then, it's just crap
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#30 Narcadox
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I don't know how you can ever say its cheaper to upgrade your PC than buy a console. I mean to get a top of the line gaming rig look at what your faced with price wise (With links incase you dont belive me :))

Video Card - 8800GTX - £350-£450 http://www.pricegrabber.co.uk/search_attrib.php?page_id=5&form_keyword=8800gtx%20price&mode=g_uk_b_s&skd=1&rd=1

Hard Drive - 160GB - £30+ http://shopping.kelkoo.co.uk/b/a/ss_hard_drive_160gb.html

Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - £199-£240 http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPC-Intel-Core-2-Duo-E6600-2-4-GHz

RAM - 2GB Corsair - £224-£240 http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPO-Corsair-Memory-2Gb-Corsair-DDR2-1066-2x128Mx64-non-ECC-2x240-DIMM-unbuffered-5-5-5-15-E-P-P-Technology-H-S 

Total - Your Looking at least £800+ and thats assumingyou already have things like a Mobo, case, cooling etc. For something thats only going to last you 5 years max as compared to a console that can last 10 years+.

Im not bashing PC gaming as im a PC gamer my self but at the moment the way consoles are going its no surprise the PC genre is disapearing...

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#31 Roguetrp
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Don't want to be rude but you can read a real lod of b**lsh*tin this forum. 1) Upgrading a PC is coslty. My graficks card costs more than a Xbox 2) I once thought that PC gameing will die, you know what, it is as much akife as u and I. It will never die. 3) The as**oles that keep on going on about console gamers VS PC gamers, pls grow up.
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#32 Endgame_basic
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Pros for pc games:
- better control scheme for rts's, mmo's, and fps's
- scalability or futureproofing
- large back library

Pros for console games
- Generally have much higher production values
- Much broader range of games (Guitar Hero!!, fighting games, sports games, racing games, platformers, etc, etc)
- turn it on and go, no fiddling with settings
- voice chat built in in all online games if you have a 360. This makes a massive difference

I'm a gamer, I like all games, but anyone who can't see the gradual shift from pc to console is kidding themself. Sure, pc gaming will never die, but it's losing ground all the time. My local EB's now have a small rack in the middle of the store for pc games. They used to have a whole wall....
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#33 Roguetrp
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I see your point Endgame, but shifting to console is for a reason. They target the ppl that can not afford PC's. You know the differance in cost between the PC games and the Xbox or ps2 games. You pay a lot more, but you need not upgrade like pc gamers. So put 2 and 2 together. Marketing is the problem, but you'll never see NASA using a xbox for a flight simulator. Its all PC. As long as Bill Gates is around youll have pc games. A large % of ppl have PC's just for games.
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#34 Endgame_basic
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[QUOTE="Roguetrp"]I see your point Endgame, but shifting to console is for a reason. They target the ppl that can not afford PC's. You know the differance in cost between the PC games and the Xbox or ps2 games. You pay a lot more, but you need not upgrade like pc gamers. So put 2 and 2 together. Marketing is the problem, but you'll never see NASA using a xbox for a flight simulator. Its all PC. As long as Bill Gates is around youll have pc games. A large % of ppl have PC's just for games.



I kinda shift back and forth as the pc and consoles deliver different experiences. People who say consoles suck are generally closed minded. When I pop in a console game what I often get is a much more polished product than the vast majority of pc games. Why can't the pc put out a game like GRAW 2? I just don't get it. It has amazing multiplayer with more game modes than any pc game has had in the last 5 years. Why can't the pc get a game with the production values of Gears of War?

That beign said, on console you don't get experiences like BF2142 or WoW. For I'd say the last 15 years I've considered myself primarily a pc gamer, but lately I'm not so sure anymore. It's getting harder and harder to find high quality games on pc and the consoles have tons. Hell, I have to go pick up God of War 2 today which just got a 9.2 here.
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#35 Deihmos
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I see your point Endgame, but shifting to console is for a reason. They target the ppl that can not afford PC's. You know the differance in cost between the PC games and the Xbox or ps2 games. You pay a lot more, but you need not upgrade like pc gamers. So put 2 and 2 together. Marketing is the problem, but you'll never see NASA using a xbox for a flight simulator. Its all PC. As long as Bill Gates is around youll have pc games. A large % of ppl have PC's just for games.Roguetrp

Everyone can afford a PC. basically everyone has one but not that many people play games on it or care to upgrade video cards, CPu etc. I highly doubt many people own a PC just for games. more people own a PC just for the internet, word processing etc.

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#36 Deihmos
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[QUOTE="Endgame_basic"][QUOTE="Roguetrp"]I see your point Endgame, but shifting to console is for a reason. They target the ppl that can not afford PC's. You know the differance in cost between the PC games and the Xbox or ps2 games. You pay a lot more, but you need not upgrade like pc gamers. So put 2 and 2 together. Marketing is the problem, but you'll never see NASA using a xbox for a flight simulator. Its all PC. As long as Bill Gates is around youll have pc games. A large % of ppl have PC's just for games.



I kinda shift back and forth as the pc and consoles deliver different experiences. People who say consoles suck are generally closed minded. When I pop in a console game what I often get is a much more polished product than the vast majority of pc games. Why can't the pc put out a game like GRAW 2? I just don't get it. It has amazing multiplayer with more game modes than any pc game has had in the last 5 years. Why can't the pc get a game with the production values of Gears of War?

That beign said, on console you don't get experiences like BF2142 or WoW. For I'd say the last 15 years I've considered myself primarily a pc gamer, but lately I'm not so sure anymore. It's getting harder and harder to find high quality games on pc and the consoles have tons. Hell, I have to go pick up God of War 2 today which just got a 9.2 here.

I agree with you. You cannot get an experience like battlefield on a console. Also many people fail to realise how many crap games are released on the PC. Every week I see at least 10 new games for PC and none are good. It's like the PC gets a good game once a year or more. I think the problem is their is no quality assurance on the PC. The majority of games released are basically console rejects.
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#37 SR_Caveman
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[QUOTE="Roguetrp"]Don't want to be rude but you can read a real lod of b**lsh*tin this forum. 1) Upgrading a PC is coslty. My graficks card costs more than a Xbox 2) I once thought that PC gameing will die, you know what, it is as much akife as u and I. It will never die. 3) The as**oles that keep on going on about console gamers VS PC gamers, pls grow up.



I beg your pardon?

Consoles are a pretty big factor in the health of the PC industry. Don't ignore them. ;)
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#38 F4ll3n_1
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PC gaming is definitely not dying. The intuitive control system for FPS with KB and Mouse will keep FPS's locked into it, RTSs will also be kept on PC (console ones dont work...usually anyway, just too slow), and Multiplayer in any game will keep online thriving along with a mod community.
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I agree with you. You cannot get an experience like battlefield on a console. Also many people fail to realise how many crap games are released on the PC. Every week I see at least 10 new games for PC and none are good. It's like the PC gets a good game once a year or more. I think the problem is their is no quality assurance on the PC. The majority of games released are basically console rejects.Deihmos


The thing that makes pc gaming so good is the lack of control. People can make their own games, experiment more and basically be creative. (try indy games and keep your eye open for some games that seem to fly under the radar. Lots of great games go unnoticed.) This ofcourse has a downside, but hey reviews are there for a reason! If every game was perfect, we wouldn't need gamespot would we?

As for 1 good game a year. That is true for every platform at the moment, nobody is actually trying anything new. (expect maybe the Wii) I've lately been playing a lot of mods and playing some of my older console games. Perhaps this is because people are only looking at graphics at the moment or the devs are overly hyping it.

Take the Halo 3 trailer for example. In the trailer they were showing lots of great visuals and at the end saying that it was all IN GAME. So what? Sure it looks great, but what HAVE you shown us apart from nice visuals? (I'm not saying that Halo 3 will lack gameplay, but i'm just giving an example of hyping graphics)
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#40 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Roguetrp"]I see your point Endgame, but shifting to console is for a reason. They target the ppl that can not afford PC's. You know the differance in cost between the PC games and the Xbox or ps2 games. You pay a lot more, but you need not upgrade like pc gamers. So put 2 and 2 together. Marketing is the problem, but you'll never see NASA using a xbox for a flight simulator. Its all PC. As long as Bill Gates is around youll have pc games. A large % of ppl have PC's just for games.Deihmos

Everyone can afford a PC. basically everyone has one but not that many people play games on it or care to upgrade video cards, CPu etc. I highly doubt many people own a PC just for games. more people own a PC just for the internet, word processing etc.

What I think he meant was they cant afford or just dont want to spend the extra money on a gaming pc. A $350 Emachine wont handle any recent games.

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#41 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Deihmos" I agree with you. You cannot get an experience like battlefield on a console. Also many people fail to realise how many crap games are released on the PC. Every week I see at least 10 new games for PC and none are good. It's like the PC gets a good game once a year or more. I think the problem is their is no quality assurance on the PC. The majority of games released are basically console rejects.

PC and 360 each had 10 games in the top 50 for 2006 out of all platforms at gamerankings.com and 2006 was a slow year for pc gaming

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#42 sepheronX
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you know whats better? building a console with PC parts.  I built one a while back (sold it though, not a huge gamer anymore) were I had wireless everything through a bluetooth port, and even though it hosted an 6800xt (long ago) it had an aftermarket cooler, and was able to overclock and even unlock some settings.  With that, It had a single core AMD 3000+ running at 2.2ghz with cheap 1gig of ram and a 60gb hard drive, and a 400w Fortron PSU that cost me 35 bucks (ran perfect, until recently).

It ran all the games I wanted to at high settings up until like FEAR came out, were it would run everything on high, but not maximum, on 1024x768, and some high and medium settings on 1280x1024.  It also allowed me through an adapter, to connect my 400w Sony 1980 stereo (let me tell you, that thing is a BEAST) and with another adapter (usally comes with gpu) can connect it through the TV ports of an HDTV.  Great picture and quality, it was a real gaming consol killer (especialy after some software tweaking).

What im getting is, PC hardware does not need to be expensive, a little bit of upgrading here and there, you can easily have a powerful system.  Not to mention with this ReadyBoost function in Vista, 1 - 1.5gig of ram with a 2gig flash ram seems to be sufficient enough to play high end gaming with reduced to almost non in hickups.
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#43 Endgame_basic
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[QUOTE="Deihmos" I agree with you. You cannot get an experience like battlefield on a console. Also many people fail to realise how many crap games are released on the PC. Every week I see at least 10 new games for PC and none are good. It's like the PC gets a good game once a year or more. I think the problem is their is no quality assurance on the PC. The majority of games released are basically console rejects.Cranler

PC and 360 each had 10 games in the top 50 for 2006 out of all platforms at gamerankings.com and 2006 was a slow year for pc gaming



Keep those blinders on.When a former pc-centric ompany like Epic makes a AAA title for a console with a userbase of around 10 million people and sells 4 million copies that about says it all. Maybe rather than see consoles as the enemy people should just enjoy good games on whatever platform they may be. I can't imagine as a gamer  not having played Gears of War.
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#44 Deihmos
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But look at the games. I am sure it's mostly RTS/RPG and FPS. If that is all you want to play then the PC is a good choice.
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#45 Cranler
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But look at the games. I am sure it's mostly RTS/RPG and FPS. If that is all you want to play then the PC is a good choice. Deihmos

3 of those games on 360 are sports, Viva Pinata, 1 rpg, no rts, the rest are shooters. Pc has 2 sports games a few each of rts,rpg and shooters. Pc wins even in a bad year.

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#47 Endgame_basic
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[QUOTE="Deihmos"]But look at the games. I am sure it's mostly RTS/RPG and FPS. If that is all you want to play then the PC is a good choice. Cranler

3 of those games on 360 are sports, Viva Pinata, 1 rpg, no rts, the rest are shooters. Pc has 2 sports games a few each of rts,rpg and shooters. Pc wins even in a bad year.



You'd have to be kidding yourself to think pc had a better year than the 360 last year.
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#48 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="Deihmos"]But look at the games. I am sure it's mostly RTS/RPG and FPS. If that is all you want to play then the PC is a good choice. Endgame_basic

3 of those games on 360 are sports, Viva Pinata, 1 rpg, no rts, the rest are shooters. Pc has 2 sports games a few each of rts,rpg and shooters. Pc wins even in a bad year.



You'd have to be kidding yourself to think pc had a better year than the 360 last year.

3 of the 4 top rated 360 games were also on pc. I would choose COH and Dark Messiah over Gears and Dead Rising.

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#49 sepheronX
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anyway, why do people think it is dieing?  I mean, while playing a game, you could make yourself some food at the same time in the same unit, with THIS:

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#50 fatboyvinnie
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Probably because not many PC exclusive titles come out and the ones that usually do suck