Why so much hate towards Oblivion?

Seriously, they always seem to compare Morrowind from Oblivion which is pretty nonsense for me. I'm not defending or a fan boy of Oblivion in any sorts but it's a good game, a well-made game if you don't mind.It's not that I hate Morrowind, in fact I love it and I've played it in these past few years ago.

So, why the hate, is it because of the ****loads of bugs? Or is something from Morrowind missing in Oblivion?

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It's quite different from Morrowind. Pisses Morrowind fans off I guess.

I prefer Oblivion, though Morrowind's setting and story were more interesting.

vanilla oblivion isn't a bad game it just has its fair share of faults and some people could live with them, some couldn't.

the story was cliched and predictable, patrick stewart aside, the voice acting was poor, the main quest was repetitive and unimaginitve, a lot of the quests were just "go fetch" missions and the levelling system was fatally flawed.

its strength lies in the guild quests, the combat (in comparison to other games in the genre, although oblivion is less rpg more action/adventure game), the picturesque scenery, evocative music, the freedom you were afforded and the mod community

I thought it was a great deal of fun. I've yet to finish the game though.

It's quite different from Morrowind. Pisses Morrowind fans off I guess.

I prefer Oblivion, though Morrowind's setting and story were more interesting.

Cobra_nVidia

The Good:

+Believable World Filled With Rich Atmosphere

+Good Visuals

+Very Moddable

The Bad:

1. Bugs:

a. Techinical Bugs

b. Occasional Crashes

c. Some NPC scripting issues

d. Some stuck bugs

e. Some go through object bugs (which leads to point d.)

2. Story

a. Dull story and storytelling

b. Bland Characters

c. Only what 10 or less voice actors? Everyone sounded the same

3. Gameplay

a. Boring and very repetitive combat

b. No other paths to take other than combat

c. Poor leveling system

d. Lacking rpg elements

e. Zero urge for exploration as loot and dungeons are scaled your level

f. Overpriced DLC (Horse Armor??? :lol: )

4.Graphics

a. A couple of missing textures

All imo of course. (xept for the bugs part).

The Good:

+Believable World Filled With Rich Atmosphere

+Good Visuals

+Very Moddable

The Bad:

1. Bugs:

a. Techinical Bugs

b. Occasional Crashes

c. Some NPC scripting issues

d. Some stuck bugs

e. Some go through object bugs (which leads to point d.)

2. Story

a. Dull story and storytelling

b. Bland Characters

c. Only what 10 or less voice actors? Everyone sounded the same

3. Gameplay

a. Boring and very repetitive combat

b. No other paths to take other than combat

c. Poor leveling system

d. Lacking rpg elements

e. Zero urge for exploration as loot and dungeons are scaled your level

f. Overpriced DLC (Horse Armor??? :lol:)

4.Graphics

a. A couple of missing textures

All imo of course. (xept for the bugs part).

Gamerz1569

Oh, never mind about the graphics part. I misread your post.

I disagree about the exploration part. I had a great urge to explore the game world and see the different cities; it was fun not to use the fast travel option for a while. Morrowind's combat is a lot worse than Oblivion's... and Oblivion's graphics were the best when the game got released.

Oh, never mind about the graphics part. I misread your post.

SkyWard20

The urge to explore was there for me but at the beginning of the game but quickly lost interest when there was no uber loot to be found as they were scaled to your level, no difficult dungeon to return to when your beefed up.

I'm not comparing it to Morrowind or any game, I'm just saying I found the combat to be quite lacking, boring and repetitive.

I think of Oblivion similar to giving a 2 year old a shiny box, just as the kid will stare and glamor at the shiny box at first, when the box is opened and found out to be empty the kid quickly loses interest. Thats Oblivion, star strucking at first but soon becomes ground slamming.

It's so boring, and dumbeddown. Not to mention the annoying bugs, and pain to install/replace mods.

I haven't really played much of Morrowind, but I surely have played a lot of Oblivion. If there's anything that needs to be fixed about Oblivion (other than the bugs) it's the way characters and NPCs look.

Oh, and they really need to change the combat system. I almost stopped playing Oblivion just because of it.

Both are very good games. Morrowind is probably the better game, but I had more fun playing Oblivion, if that makes sense.

I prefer Oblivion, though Morrowind's setting and story were more interesting.

Cobra_nVidia

+1

I dont like oblivion because its just boring for me . I never finished it too . I like , even love RPG game , probably my favorite games are RPGs , but never liked oblivion .

The vanilla game was bad quality all around. It only shines over Morrowind when you add a lot of mods.

Oblivions not a bad game, but they stripped it down so much compared to morrowind.. they also made npcs, armor, weapons, etc level up with you instead of being able to go into a cave run past like 15 dudes that are 10 levels ahead of you and take a super kick ass katana or something thats at the end of the dungeon.. Morrowind was hardcore.. if morrowind had the combat system like oblviion it would of been the best game i have ever played.. EVER. SLUSHiNaToR

[QUOTE="Gamerz1569"]

The Good:

+Believable World Filled With Rich Atmosphere

+Good Visuals

+Very Moddable

The Bad:

1. Bugs:

a. Techinical Bugs

b. Occasional Crashes

c. Some NPC scripting issues

d. Some stuck bugs

e. Some go through object bugs (which leads to point d.)

2. Story

a. Dull story and storytelling

b. Bland Characters

c. Only what 10 or less voice actors? Everyone sounded the same

3. Gameplay

a. Boring and very repetitive combat

b. No other paths to take other than combat

c. Poor leveling system

d. Lacking rpg elements

e. Zero urge for exploration as loot and dungeons are scaled your level

f. Overpriced DLC (Horse Armor??? :lol:)

4.Graphics

a. A couple of missing textures

All imo of course. (xept for the bugs part).

SkyWard20

Oh, never mind about the graphics part. I misread your post.

[QUOTE="SLUSHiNaToR"]Oblivions not a bad game, but they stripped it down so much compared to morrowind.. they also made npcs, armor, weapons, etc level up with you instead of being able to go into a cave run past like 15 dudes that are 10 levels ahead of you and take a super kick ass katana or something thats at the end of the dungeon.. Morrowind was hardcore.. if morrowind had the combat system like oblviion it would of been the best game i have ever played.. EVER. Remmib

ESIV was an absolute blast to play dispite all of its faults. The problem, I believe, was that most things about game world were very well done, and this made everything that wasn't stuck out like a sore thumb. In other words, you were pulled out of the suspension of disbelief too often.

But if the improvements seen in Fallout 3 are any indication, ESV should have less of these problems.

The leveling system is what killed the game for me. I was waiting for Oblivion for years, and was so excited about it. It was shaping up to me one of my favorite RPGs of all time. But, as we know how hype goes, I really didn't enjoy my time playing. Something I experienced quite often in Morrowind. I stopped playing after a week and was totally let down.

The visuals, the world, and lore were simply astounding. There were times I just looked at the water and watched the sun cascade off my armor and the surroundings and marveled at how lovely it all looked.

Sadly though, the lack of challenge and the leveling system really was a sad state of affairs for me.

One of the biggest video game let downs ever for me.

I love Oblivion, was a bit dull vanilla, but that's what mods are for. I find it as fun as Morrowind.

My dissappointment came when I saw the Argonians and Khajiit in Oblivion. In Morrowind, they were more beast like and had different qualities then other races, then they decided to make them all the same.

Morrowind had alot more variety of characters, landscape differences, weather, animals, plants, building styles, and a political environment that gave the world a sense of suspended of believe and not to mention the island was like 3x bigger then Oblivion world.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="dreDREb13"]I like Morrowind, but I got very annoyed at missing someone point blank with a knife, and as stupid as the voice acting was in Oblivion, it still immersed me pretty damn well. Okay, I suppose I should rephrase that: I don't like Morrowind very much. I'm not sure why. It's really hard for me to get into and things just start off way too slow. I'm sure I sound like a person that wants a dumbed down experience, but I really don't. I play D&D constantly and extensive and specific RPG's are my favorite games. Just something about Morrowind didn't click with me.dreDREb13

Bugs really weren't a problem on the PC...Kivan wrote three mods that eliminated > 10,000 bugs from the game and the DLCs.

Because it's a pile of **** compared to Daggerfall and Morrowind.

Vanilla Oblivion is pretty lousy, but can be a lot of fun if you mod it. Daggerfall is still the best in the series followed by Morrowind.

[QUOTE="dreDREb13"]

I suppose, but then... I'm not thinking about staring at a person with a knife, swinging it into their damn torso, and missing. :P Somehow, it's different in D&D. Maybe it's just I get distracted by all the other fun stuff.

KHAndAnime

Whenever I missed in that game I just pretended the attack just bounced off. TBH, swords were not as effective as they were in the stories, I remember seeing somewhere a flick of someone using a katana against a plate mail, and the Katana just couldn't cut through the armor. Still, once your skill in using whatever weapon you are using improves so to will your hit rate, and the misses will bother you a lot less.

Because it just wasnt not as good as Daggerfall, Arena or Morrowind in the Elderscrolls series.

The only thing Oblivion did better was graphics, everthing else was dumbed down when compared to Morrowind and Daggerfall.

Not a terrible game, but just not as good as the reviews said imo.

because people were expecting an RPG with action elements, not an action game with RPG elements.

I loved Oblivion personally, but I imagine if I had played previous installments I'd feel different. I guess people feel about Oblivion the way as I, a lover of Deus Ex 1, feel hate towards Deus Ex 2.

The only thing oblivion did better was combat...otherwise morrowind was better in almost every other aspect...oh and graphics it obviously was better than morrowind too.

Not to mention 90% of Oblivion's mods are stupid sex mods.

Because it just wasnt not as good as Daggerfall, Arena or Morrowind in the Elderscrolls series.

The only thing Oblivion did better was graphics, everthing else was dumbed down when compared to Morrowind and Daggerfall.

Not a terrible game, but just not as good as the reviews said imo.

kozzy1234