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#51 wizdom
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[QUOTE="Timberwolf5578"]

I never found Crysis graphics to be very impressive (and please don't post screenshots, we already know what the game looks like). The NPCs looked terrible, and even certain things, like boulders for instance, looked very mediocre. I agree that the trees looked good, but other than that, I thought the game's graphics were nothing special.

Opinions?

Most people will disagree with you, I disagree as well, you won't win any fans with a topic like this, personally even though its your opinion, I can't see anyone outside of a troll or a fanboy looking for attention saying the game sucks visually, there still isn't a single card that run it max out to date.
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#52 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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[QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="xxxBlackDogxxx"]

yeah but crytek has much more potential with that engine.

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Did you see some of those screens released a while back of from the Scene From a Movie contest that Crytek had... a couple of random guys did the Blade Runner entry... if a bunch of random people can do those things with the CryEngine2... imagine what Crytek, the people who actually made it can do...?

Here are the pics BTW (posting links because the pics are big):

Pic 1

Pic 2

Wow WoW WOW !!! Those pics are amazing.

lol that was exactly my reaction, that is damn impressive. If you learn how to use the cry engine, you can make some pretty impressive stuff.

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#53 johnny27
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Squeets"]

Did you see some of those screens released a while back of from the Scene From a Movie contest that Crytek had... a couple of random guys did the Blade Runner entry... if a bunch of random people can do those things with the CryEngine2... imagine what Crytek, the people who actually made it can do...?

Here are the pics BTW (posting links because the pics are big):

Pic 1

Pic 2

October_Tide

Wow WoW WOW !!! Those pics are amazing.

lol that was exactly my reaction, that is damn impressive. If you learn how to use the cry engine, you can make some pretty impressive stuff.

and people say cryengine 2 sucks for rendering building :lol:
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#54 Dr_Brocoli
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I never found Crysis graphics to be very impressive (and please don't post screenshots, we already know what the game looks like). The NPCs looked terrible, and even certain things, like boulders for instance, looked very mediocre. I agree that the trees looked good, but other than that, I thought the game's graphics were nothing special.

Opinions?

Timberwolf5578
ROFL!! You made ANOTHER thread to say this? Mods suspend t his fool asap. You fail. You are just jealous your pc cannot run the game or that crytec produced a good benchmarking game. the game DOES look good no doubt. And with mods it has potential to look even better. Are you just trying to look stupid and piss people off?
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#55 Gooeykat
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No doubt, you could have at least created an alt and posted this garbage.
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#56 Charles_Dickens
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[QUOTE="Timberwolf5578"]

I never found Crysis graphics to be very impressive (and please don't post screenshots, we already know what the game looks like). The NPCs looked terrible, and even certain things, like boulders for instance, looked very mediocre. I agree that the trees looked good, but other than that, I thought the game's graphics were nothing special.

Opinions?

wizdom

Most people will disagree with you, I disagree as well, you won't win any fans with a topic like this, personally even though its your opinion, I can't see anyone outside of a troll or a fanboy looking for attention saying the game sucks visually, there still isn't a single card that run it max out to date.

But where did the O.P. actually say that that the graphics in Crysis 'suck'.

He didn't say that.

Anywhere.

I ran into the same problem with people at this forum when I posted pretty much the same comment last month. I hadn't played Crysis - chiefly because my previous computer couldn't run it. So as soon as I bought my Core i7 from Alienware in March, one of the first games I wanted to try out was Crysis. It wasn't that the game looked really bad (like I said, the water was just amazing) but as soon as I launched it I saw that something was wrong.

I don't care what anybody says: Crysis does not look modern to me. I would've guessed that the technology was about 2 and a half years old - which, factually, it is. And this time, people have nothing to argue about. That's just a plain and simple fact.

Do the graphics in Crysis suck? No they don't. And the O.P. isn't saying that - it's just that if you're a bit late to the show, then you're expecting something that's going to blow you away, and for me, and for the O.P., that didn't happen. The graphics in Crysis were not The Second Coming.

The O.P., however, is dead right about the NPCs. Those are some of the worst NPCs I've seen in a long time. And like the O.P. said, don't post screenshots - I have the game right here on my desk and have played it myself so I know what the NPCs look like in action, and I would not write home to anybody about them. The NPCs are generic, with low-res textures - not to mention that they animate like garbage. At one point, while I was cloaked, about 15 NPCs started swarming around me, all bumping into one another while crouched down low - it was laughable. So bad. SO bad.

The graphics in Crysis, as of June 2009, are over-rated and dated. They're not bad - that's not what we're saying - we're just saying that they're over-rated. And dated. But the fact remains that there are some people here who won't EVER let go of the idea that Crysis is anything but 'The PC Gaming Poster Boy Of Good Looks'. You could return to this forum 5 years from now and those people will still be advancing that idea.

Ever heard of something called a Retroanaut? These are the same people who will honk on about Planescape Torment being the greatest RPG of all time, and even advance the idea that it's better than anything that's presently on the market. They'll argue that Planescape is, for example, a better RPG than Fallout 3 - oh no it isn't. Games are about immersion and about storytelling, and what I'm not going to do is sit there in front of my computer looking at graphics that are ten years old, and playing a game that doesn't even have voice acting in it. Planescape Torment... blah, blah, blah. The world has moved on. Get over it. You know, move out of your parents' basement.

God I wish that people would stop clinging to games of the past like that. It's boring. That said, I'm down for some Secret Of Monkey Island lovin'. That game is going to be frickin' awesome.

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#57 Charles_Dickens
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Also, beautiful post O.P.

You're a blessing to the forum, and I only wish that there were others here with an equal amount of sensibility. Don't let anybody here, or anywhere else, tell you what you can or cannot write.

Visit the forum whenever you like - we will all benefit from your posts - and I wish you Godspeed, sir.

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#58 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"][QUOTE="wizdom"][QUOTE="Timberwolf5578"]

I never found Crysis graphics to be very impressive (and please don't post screenshots, we already know what the game looks like). The NPCs looked terrible, and even certain things, like boulders for instance, looked very mediocre. I agree that the trees looked good, but other than that, I thought the game's graphics were nothing special.

Opinions?

Most people will disagree with you, I disagree as well, you won't win any fans with a topic like this, personally even though its your opinion, I can't see anyone outside of a troll or a fanboy looking for attention saying the game sucks visually, there still isn't a single card that run it max out to date.

Blah Blah Blah

Ok Charles, i agree. Sure, a game thats almost 2 years old now has dated graphics. But they're still better than any other game out there so far. I'm not denying that as of 2009 crysis could have looked better. But so could Secret of monkey island,(you brought up the game, not me) if it was made with today's graphics. Besides, we're not talking about NOW, not as of June 2009, the OP's question was "Why WERE crysis graphics so hyped" not "Why are they still" When i played first played crysis about 3 months after it was released (my computer could actually handle it then) I thought they were amazing, I'm not saying they were perfect, but on high, 1680x1050, even you must admit they look pretty darn good. The OP said, in another troll topic that Trine had far better physics, graphics, and gameplay than Crysis. I disagree with him again. Trine is good for what it is, just like pong is good for what it is, and theres not much more you can improve on it graphics wise. So OP, Why WERE they so hyped? Cause they look f'ing beautiful. Still do. End of story.
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#59 Charles_Dickens
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There really ought to be some kind of rule at this forum for when a person re-writes another person's post. If you'll look above you'll see that this individual has misquoted me.

That should be a ban, in my opinion. I would never misquote somebody else.

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#60 Nibroc420
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There really ought to be some kind of rule at this forum for when a person re-writes another person's post. If you'll look above you'll see that this individual has misquoted me.

That should be a ban, in my opinion. I would never misquote somebody else.

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I only did it to save space. no-one needs a page long thing of quotes.
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#61 Charles_Dickens
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"][QUOTE="wizdom"] Most people will disagree with you, I disagree as well, you won't win any fans with a topic like this, personally even though its your opinion, I can't see anyone outside of a troll or a fanboy looking for attention saying the game sucks visually, there still isn't a single card that run it max out to date.

Blah Blah Blah

Ok Charles, i agree. You are a damned genius. How come there aren't more people like you around? I just think you're awesome, and I wish that you'd post more often.

Well okay, that's more like it, then.
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#62 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"] Blah Blah Blah

Ok Charles, i agree. You are a damned genius. How come there aren't more people like you around? I just think you're awesome, and I wish that you'd post more often.

Well okay, that's more like it, then.

Thats clearly not what i did, and now you're just being offensive. The fact that you rather than providing a reasonable rebuttal to mine, instead complain about me changing the quote to save space (as i stated clearly) proves that you're not the kind of person to have an intellectual discussion with, leaving me with the question; "Why are you on a discussion board?"
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#63 lenson
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Well the graphics are very good, but the gameplay I found mediocre.

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#64 F1_2004
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I can't believe nobody has yet asked about the game that's got far better graphics than Crysis! Please tell me right now so I can play this game, it must look amazing!

p.s. don't feed the trolls.

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#65 Bumzur
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Well the graphics are very good, but the gameplay I found mediocre.

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Gameplay was the best part.
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#66 Charles_Dickens
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I can't believe nobody has yet asked about the game that's got far better graphics than Crysis! Please tell me right now so I can play this game, it must look amazing!

p.s. don't feed the trolls.

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GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Empire Total War, Fallout 3 - all of these games at MAX settings look MUCH sharper and clearer than Crysis, and have engines that outshine the engine used by Crytek. Why do I have to write that? Take one look at one of the outdoor shacks in Crysis and you'll see what I'm talking about instantly. GTA 4, in particular, on my PC, looks far more modern than Crysis. Liberty City is much more of a technical achievement than that island in Crysis. Rockstar spent 100 million dollars making GTA 4 - why can you not see that? You must be blind or something. Wait a minute - troll post?
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#67 johnny27
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[QUOTE="lenson"]

Well the graphics are very good, but the gameplay I found mediocre.

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Gameplay was the best part.

yeah i wouldn't have replayed through the levels so many times if it wasn't
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#68 Timberwolf5578
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[QUOTE="wizdom"][QUOTE="Timberwolf5578"]

I never found Crysis graphics to be very impressive (and please don't post screenshots, we already know what the game looks like). The NPCs looked terrible, and even certain things, like boulders for instance, looked very mediocre. I agree that the trees looked good, but other than that, I thought the game's graphics were nothing special.

Opinions?

Charles_Dickens

Most people will disagree with you, I disagree as well, you won't win any fans with a topic like this, personally even though its your opinion, I can't see anyone outside of a troll or a fanboy looking for attention saying the game sucks visually, there still isn't a single card that run it max out to date.

But where did the O.P. actually say that that the graphics in Crysis 'suck'.

He didn't say that.

Anywhere.

I ran into the same problem with people at this forum when I posted pretty much the same comment last month. I hadn't played Crysis - chiefly because my previous computer couldn't run it. So as soon as I bought my Core i7 from Alienware in March, one of the first games I wanted to try out was Crysis. It wasn't that the game looked really bad (like I said, the water was just amazing) but as soon as I launched it I saw that something was wrong.

I don't care what anybody says: Crysis does not look modern to me. I would've guessed that the technology was about 2 and a half years old - which, factually, it is. And this time, people have nothing to argue about. That's just a plain and simple fact.

Do the graphics in Crysis suck? No they don't. And the O.P. isn't saying that - it's just that if you're a bit late to the show, then you're expecting something that's going to blow you away, and for me, and for the O.P., that didn't happen. The graphics in Crysis were not The Second Coming.

The O.P., however, is dead right about the NPCs. Those are some of the worst NPCs I've seen in a long time. And like the O.P. said, don't post screenshots - I have the game right here on my desk and have played it myself so I know what the NPCs look like in action, and I would not write home to anybody about them. The NPCs are generic, with low-res textures - not to mention that they animate like garbage. At one point, while I was cloaked, about 15 NPCs started swarming around me, all bumping into one another while crouched down low - it was laughable. So bad. SO bad.

The graphics in Crysis, as of June 2009, are over-rated and dated. They're not bad - that's not what we're saying - we're just saying that they're over-rated. And dated. But the fact remains that there are some people here who won't EVER let go of the idea that Crysis is anything but 'The PC Gaming Poster Boy Of Good Looks'. You could return to this forum 5 years from now and those people will still be advancing that idea.

Ever heard of something called a Retroanaut? These are the same people who will honk on about Planescape Torment being the greatest RPG of all time, and even advance the idea that it's better than anything that's presently on the market. They'll argue that Planescape is, for example, a better RPG than Fallout 3 - oh no it isn't. Games are about immersion and about storytelling, and what I'm not going to do is sit there in front of my computer looking at graphics that are ten years old, and playing a game that doesn't even have voice acting in it. Planescape Torment... blah, blah, blah. The world has moved on. Get over it. You know, move out of your parents' basement.

God I wish that people would stop clinging to games of the past like that. It's boring. That said, I'm down for some Secret Of Monkey Island lovin'. That game is going to be frickin' awesome.


Good post.

Some people will just never let go of certain games. There are people out there who still think the original Zork games are the best RPGs ever. As far as Planescape Torment goes, yes it has an excellent story, but it's not exactly the most exciting game to play, but still yes it's a very good game. I can name plenty of games that I think have better graphics than Crysis. Here are some:

Trine
Titan Quest
Uncharted
Heavenly Sword
MGS4
Oblivion

Maybe Crysis on super high settings pushes a lot of polygons or whatever, but still artistically the game is very mediocre and that really hinders the look of the game. The textures are mediocre also. And the NPCs just look terrible.

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#69 F1_2004
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OK that pretty much confirms that this is a joke thread :lol:

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#70 Charles_Dickens
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OK that pretty much confirms that this is a joke thread :lol:

F1_2004
Any person can see that this is not a joke thread, nor a we 'trolling'. Accusing somebody of being a troll has got to be the most tired and over-used red-herring argument on the entire internet. Any time a person advances an idea that isn't agreed upon by the majority then that person is branded a troll? Really? The majority is always right? I can name hundreds of examples in which that has not been the case. Here's one now: Believe it or not, but the 'majority' once believed that... are you ready for it... the world was flat, and that if you sailed a boat over the edge of the horizon then the boat would sail right over the edge. Guess what? They were wrong. Just because the majority says that it is so, doesn't mean that it is so. And by the way, this is a forum. You advance your ideas. And we advance ours. See.
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#71 Gooeykat
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Very insightful. However there is one problem with using that analogy. The world being flat was eventually scientifically disproved. Whether one games graphics are better than another is entirely subjective. It is of course entirely subjective to say that Trine's art direction is superior to Crysis. I would guess 9 out of 10 would disagree with the TC. In terms of graphical capability and technical achievement, it can't be denied that Crysis is light years ahead of many games in terms of graphic capability. Comparing the graphic capabilities and technical wizardry that is on display in Crysis to that of Trine is a joke.

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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]

OK that pretty much confirms that this is a joke thread :lol:

Charles_Dickens

Any person can see that this is not a joke thread, nor a we 'trolling'. Accusing somebody of being a troll has got to be the most tired and over-used red-herring argument on the entire internet. Any time a person advances an idea that isn't agreed upon by the majority then that person is branded a troll? Really? The majority is always right? I can name hundreds of examples in which that has not been the case. Here's one now: Believe it or not, but the 'majority' once believed that... are you ready for it... the world was flat, and that if you sailed a boat over the edge of the horizon then the boat would sail right over the edge. Guess what? They were wrong. Just because the majority says that it is so, doesn't mean that it is so. And by the way, this is a forum. You advance your ideas. And we advance ours. See.


Charles_Dickens, good to see that you have a mind of your own and you are not just a follower. You seem to understand that graphics are a lot more than just supposed "polygon counts" or whatever. A game needs to look good in all departments to be considered visually appealing. Good artistry, textures, NPCs, etc all are needed to make a game visually appealing, and Crysis is very mediocre in some of those aspects.

It surprised me that even many game review websites jumped on the Crysis graphics bandwagon. They should know better than that. Again, it takes more than polygon counts to make a game visually appealing. Heck, Bioshock looks WAY more visually appealing than Crysis, yet it's graphics are not nearly as touted as Crysis. And the Trine demo literally makes Crysis look like a older outdated game when it comes to visuals.

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#73 F1_2004
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[QUOTE="Charles_Dickens"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]

OK that pretty much confirms that this is a joke thread :lol:

Timberwolf5578

Any person can see that this is not a joke thread, nor a we 'trolling'. Accusing somebody of being a troll has got to be the most tired and over-used red-herring argument on the entire internet. Any time a person advances an idea that isn't agreed upon by the majority then that person is branded a troll? Really? The majority is always right? I can name hundreds of examples in which that has not been the case. Here's one now: Believe it or not, but the 'majority' once believed that... are you ready for it... the world was flat, and that if you sailed a boat over the edge of the horizon then the boat would sail right over the edge. Guess what? They were wrong. Just because the majority says that it is so, doesn't mean that it is so. And by the way, this is a forum. You advance your ideas. And we advance ours. See.


Charles_Dickens, good to see that you have a mind of your own and you are not just a follower. You seem to understand that graphics are a lot more than just supposed "polygon counts" or whatever. A game needs to look good in all departments to be considered visually appealing. Good artistry, textures, NPCs, etc all are needed to make a game visually appealing, and Crysis is very mediocre in some of those aspects.

It surprised me that even many game review websites jumped on the Crysis graphics bandwagon. They should know better than that. Again, it takes more than polygon counts to make a game visually appealing. Heck, Bioshock looks WAY more visually appealing than Crysis, yet it's graphics are not nearly as touted as Crysis. And the Trine demo literally makes Crysis look like a older outdated game when it comes to visuals.

Pardon me while I interrupt your little circle jerk. While it is true that there's a certain amount of opinion involved in determining which game has the best graphics (although it's mainly technical and as such you can't really argue your way out of the technical superiority of one game over the other), once someone quotes Titan Quest, Trine and Oblivion as having graphics superior to Crysis, it's fair to say that they either have no grasp of the concept of graphics quality or are being dense just for the sake of it, and their opinions can be ignored.

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#74 Charles_Dickens
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Alright then, F1, tell us about the technical achievements of Crysis - if you're an expert on the matter.

Specifics, please.

In other words, don't just say, oh the trees are beautiful, the water is beautiful. You're the one who's arguing that Crysis is so technologically advanced - so give us specifics as to why this is the case.

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Hmm i thought crysis looked unbelieveably real on max settings i don't see how much more real you can get...well maybe besides DX11
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#76 johnny27
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Alright then, F1, tell us about the technical achievements of Crysis - if you're an expert on the matter.

Specifics, please.

In other words, don't just say, oh the trees are beautiful, the water is beautiful. You're the one who's arguing that Crysis is so technologically advanced - so give us specifics as to why this is the case.

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he could but your it would be a waste to explain all that you probably couldn't even understand half of it anyways.
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#77 chandu83
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Good post.

Some people will just never let go of certain games. There are people out there who still think the original Zork games are the best RPGs ever. As far as Planescape Torment goes, yes it has an excellent story, but it's not exactly the most exciting game to play, but still yes it's a very good game. I can name plenty of games that I think have better graphics than Crysis. Here are some:

Trine
Titan Quest
Uncharted
Heavenly Sword
MGS4
Oblivion

Maybe Crysis on super high settings pushes a lot of polygons or whatever, but still artistically the game is very mediocre and that really hinders the look of the game. The textures are mediocre also. And the NPCs just look terrible.

Timberwolf5578

Hold ona minute. You said you can name plenty of games that have better graphics than Crysis and you included Titan Quest in the list?

I am...I don't know...I mean...